The Modern Therapist's Survival Guide with Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy

Making Every Therapy Practice Profitable: An Interview with Julie HerresCurt and Katie interview Julie Herres of GreenOak Accounting about her new book, Profit First for Therapists. We explore what profit first is, the unique challenges that therapist face in implementing profit first, the core principles of profit first, mistakes therapists make in implementation, and the benefits of using this bookkeeping model.Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!In this podcast episode, we talk about the profit first method specific to therapy practicesTherapists often struggle with their money, oftentimes forgetting to pull out profit or paying themselves. One accounting system that helps therapists to better manage their money is Profit First. Our friend, Julie Herres, has written a book about this system with specific information for how this accounting system applies to therapists.What is Profit First?·      Focusing on profit as a given number in your accounting·      You identify the profit you need FIRST to determine what you can spend on your expenses·      An accounting system created by Mike MichalowiczWhat are the unique challenges that therapists face in implementing profit first?·      Therapist guilt and emotional processes that get in the way of therapists mastering the money in their businesses·      The stages of change that go into realigning your budget to stabilize your finances in your business and personal lifeThe core principles of Profit First·      “Use a smaller plate” so you spend less money. You add bank accounts, so each is smaller to divide out your profit, expenses, pay, and taxes.·      “Serve sequentially” – to the different bank accounts·      “Remove temptation” – the idea is that you won’t use money that is in a labeled account for something else.·      “Enforce a rhythm” – moving money consistently, to help see the ebb and flow of money in the business.Mistakes therapists often make in implementing Profit First·      Not changing spending habits·      Changing too much too quickly·      Not creating separate bank accounts (this is a key to success)The benefits of using Profit First in your therapy practice·      Understanding where your money is going·      Planning for scaling into a group practice·      Looking at finances in a structured and consistent way·      Understanding the percentages for all the money in the business·      Making sure that you are paying yourself and taking profit in your businessThoughts about group practices·      The different phases of growth·      The benefits of using a more structured system to weather the emotional challenges of growth in your business·      Reverse engineering your practice to support your lifeResources for Modern Therapists mentioned in this Podcast Episode:We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links. Please note that some of the links below may be affiliate links, so if you purchase after clicking below, we may get a little bit of cash in our pockets. We thank you in advance!The Book: Profit First for Therapists by Julie Herreshttps://www.profitfirstfortherapists.com/mtsg@Julie.Herres on InstagramGreenOak AccountingFacebook Group: Profit First for TherapistsRelevant Episodes of MTSG Podcast:Don’t Take Tax Advice From Therapists: An interview with Julie HerresFinancial Therapy: An interview with Lindsay Bryan-PodvinAsking for MoneyStay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement:PatreonBuy Me A CoffeeModern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/

What is Our Fascination with Anything Vaguely Neuroscience?Curt and Katie chat about our profession’s fascination with neuroscience. We explore the myths about the brain, why therapists lean on neuroscience (even when they really shouldn’t), and how “neuro” is misused and can actually be harmful to our clients.   Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!In this podcast episode we talk about neuroscienceCurt has started to get frustrated with all of the ways that neuroscience is misused. Curt is frustrated with the ongoing use of “neuro” information that may be myth.What are the most common neuromyths? Humans only use 10% of our brains Left/Right Brain preference Learning style (i.e., auditory, visual, or kinetic learners) If you don’t drink enough water, your brain will shrink Why do therapists often privilege “neuroscience” over everything else? The fascination with brain scans The belief that explanations including neuroscience are more effective (even if they are not) Interest in data and the scientific explanations The Misuse of “Neuro” to increase the credibility of other concepts The “neuroscience” of the power of attraction Overusing neuroscience explanations for interventions that don’t help The potential for clients to feel incompetent due to trying to access parts of the brain versus understanding the interventions in a basic and complete manner Resources for Modern Therapists mentioned in this Podcast Episode:We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links. Please note that some of the links below may be affiliate links, so if you purchase after clicking below, we may get a little bit of cash in our pockets. We thank you in advance!Article: The Seductive Allure of Neuroscience Explanations by Deena Skolnick Weisberg, Frank C. Keil, Joshua Goodstein, Elizabeth Rawson, and Jeremy R. GrayArticle: Dispelling the Myth: Training in Education or Neuroscience Decreases but Does Not Eliminate Beliefs in Neuromyths by Kelly Macdonald, Laura Germine, Alida Anderson, Joanna Christodoulou and Lauren M. McGrathArticle: Brain Images Make Cognitive Research More BelievableArticle: Neuroscience and education: myths and messagesArticle: Brain images make the article seem more reliableThe manifested article that has not been vetted for scientific accuracy, but I can’t believe I found it: The Neuroscience of The SecretStay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement:PatreonBuy Me A CoffeeOur Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimaginedModern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/

Clinical Work with Sex Workers: An Interview with Jamila Dawson, LMFT and Dr. Theo Burnes, PhDCurt and Katie interview Dr. Theo Burnes and Jamila Dawson on their new book Essential Clinical Care for Sex Workers. We talk about what therapists get wrong when thinking about sex work and sex workers, what common biases therapists hold about sex work, what sex work looks like now, and how clinicians can work effectively with sex workers.Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!In this podcast episode, we talk about sex workers seeking therapyThere are number of client populations that we just don’t talk about in grad school. Sex Workers are an important group that we find continue to face bias and ignorance in the therapy room. We reached out to Theo Burnes and Jamila Dawson to learn more about this often forgotten client population.What are therapists getting wrong when thinking about sex work and sex workers? Clinicians often are focused on saving people, which is misguided We lose opportunities as change agents Not understanding sex work and the complexity of any job There is a bias about the relationships between sex and work and what sex is What are common biases that therapists hold related to sex work? The bias that there must be trauma if someone chooses to do sex work The bias that they must hate their job and want to get out of this work The lack of awareness about immigration’s intersection with sex work The additional bias related to racism, sexism, and genderism Anti-erotophobia Anti-neurodivergence – there are more folks in sex work who are neurodivergent due to the flexibility and other characteristics of the job Entertainment bias is pervasive with the rescue theme (e.g., Pretty Woman) What does sex work look like now? The “Whorearchy” or hierarchy within sex worker communities (outside vs inside, independent or employee, safety level) – for example working independently in the safest environments (i.e., inside, virtually) is seen higher up the whorearchy Different types of sex work including courtesan/girlfriend experience versus other types that are less heterosexual normative Understanding the pros and cons of each type of sex work is important for clinicians working with sex workers The opportunities related to innovation (sex and porn often drive innovation) and creativity How can a clinician work effectively with sex workers? Getting curious to fully understand the unique situation for the client Assessments availability in the book: Essential Clinical Care for Sex Workers Pay attention to how you talk about sex work as clients will test whether they can talk about their sex work Sex work may not be the presenting issue, but it is relevant to identify whether they are self-identifying as a sex worker to the therapist Holding space for clients not disclosing everything at the beginning of therapy Showing sex positivity and openness to hear about any sensitive topics (sex, drug use, etc.) Understanding the fears and myths that are floating around (e.g., the myth that therapists will call law enforcement or CPS solely because someone reports being a sex worker) Being an agent for social change and advocating for systemic change Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement:PatreonBuy Me A CoffeeModern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/

Is AI Smart for Your Therapy Practice? The ethics of artificial intelligence in therapyCurt and Katie chat about the use of ChatGPT and other artificial intelligence as part of your therapy practice. We look at what uses therapists are considering, the differences between chatbots and search engines, and basic information on how chatbots work. We explore ethical implications for using chatbots within different aspects of a therapist practice. This is a law and ethics continuing education podcourse.Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!In this podcast episode we talk about therapists using ChatGPT in their practicesHow are ChatGPT and other chatbots being used by modern therapists? Writing blog posts and other marketing content Getting suggestions for writing progress notes Potentially case consultation and differential diagnosis? What is the difference between ChatGPT (or other AI chatbots) and Search Engines? The goals are different – developing human-sounding language versus information retrieval Primary sources and raw data versus interpretation and an answer that sounds good What are the legal and ethical uses of ChatGPT? The user agreement allows all uses of the content developed based on your prompts There is not a guarantee of unique output between different users which calls into question ownership on content and plagiarism Citing authorship, publication credits, and whose ideas are being included in your content Suggestions from ethical bodies on how to cite chatbots The importance of transparency and accountability  What is the harm in using ChatGPT without transparency on a therapist website? The impact on pretreatment role expectations and the digital therapeutic alliance A lack of transparency and potential for misleading prospective clients on your personality and/or expertise If you don’t check accuracy, especially when you have someone else creating your content, you may actually create outdated information that is heavily influenced by the medical model and potentially biased What are thoughts about using ChatGPT in clinical work for therapists?Please use caution when using AI in any clinical workWhat are recommendations for modern therapists who would like to use ChatGPT? Use with caution: check primary sources and completely review Transparently cite that AI was used, which app was used, how it was used, and the date when information was pulled Be aware of SEO impacts, lack of branding, whether it adds value, and that the content is accurate and is helpful rather than harmful Do not input any confidential information Do not overly rely on the clinical suggestions due to bias and accuracy concerns Receive Continuing Education for this Episode of the Modern Therapist’s Survival GuideYou can find this full course (including handouts and resources) here: https://learn.moderntherapistcommunity.com/pages/podcourseContinuing Education Approvals: Continuing Education Information Resources for Modern Therapists mentioned in this Podcast Episode:We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links. Please note that some of the links below may be affiliate links, so if you purchase after clicking below, we may get a little bit of cash in our pockets. We thank you in advance!ChatGPT*The full reference list can be found in the course on our learning platform.Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/

What Therapists Should Know About Code-Switching: An Interview with Dr. Jameta Nicole BarlowCurt and Katie interview Dr. Jameta Nicole Barlow on code-switching. We explore what code-switching is, the mental health impacts of code-switching, and how therapists can support clients who code-switch.Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!In this podcast episode, we talk about code-switchingAn important conversation about code-switching for therapists. What do we need to know and what can we do to support people who need to code switch?What is code-switching? Shifting how one speaks or behaves to fit into the current situation Often occurs with people who do not look like you or are culturally different from you Learning to operate differently in different spaces due to being judged based on appearance, behavior, and language Choosing which words to use, which has additional layers for multilingual folks Much deeper than just linguistic shifts Responding to the potential for violent harm when how you typically show up doesn’t fit the current situation’s prescribed norms The concept of “professionalism” and who set the standards Needing to push back on the norms What are the mental health effects of Code-switching? Anxiety and depression Not bringing full self into most spaces Hesitation, lack of learning and sharing Chronic health diseases connected to cortisol Identity concerns, unraveling of identity over time Fear of being found out or not being accepted High mental load Not everyone code switches Why are people code-switching in professional settings? Or is it still happening? Shifts in behaviors during the pandemic Letting go of certain social mores on zoom Not having to go to work and putting on a professional persona when working remotely What can mental health professionals due to support clients who code-switch? There are not enough Black therapists to see all of the Black clients, so therapists of other demographics need to make sure that they are addressing it Going beyond the client having to explain all of their experience or be a cultural translator Stay present to the story and clarify later, to allow client to stay in the vulnerability Being authentic yourself as a therapist, to create space for imperfection Providing reinforcement for the client showing up authentically, their accomplishments Getting to IDGAF attitude and testing it out in different spaces How does Dr. Jameta Barlow push back against the status quo related to code-switching? Land acknowledgement Grounding in family and cultural history Focusing on the history and the experiences of Black women No code-switching or requirement for being anything but your full self Resources for Modern Therapists mentioned in this Podcast Episode:We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links. Please note that some of the links below may be affiliate links, so if you purchase after clicking below, we may get a little bit of cash in our pockets. We thank you in advance!Dr. Barlow’s Website: JametaBarlow.comTwitter: @allaboutafyaEmail: JametaWrites @ gmail.comInformation on the concept of Double Consciousness from W.E.B. Du BoisArticle on PsychCentral: Code-Switching: What it is and What it Costs UsStay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement:PatreonBuy Me A CoffeeModern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/ 

Why Is Therapy Taking So Long? The causes and solutions for therapeutic driftCurt and Katie chat about the tendency for therapists to drift clinically – meaning that they fail to use evidence-based practices that they have been trained to do. We explore the phenomenon of therapeutic drift, contributing factors, ways to mitigate risk, and what therapists can do to address this tendency that leads to poorer therapeutic outcomes. This is a continuing education podcourse.Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!In this podcast episode we explore why therapists stray from using evidence-based practicesIn order for therapy to be successful, both the therapist and client need to stay invested in the therapeutic process. We explore the reasons that therapy can stall, how to identify the causes, and how to get back on track toward achieving client goals.What is therapist drift and why is it bad? Therapists will fail to use evidence-based treatment even when they have the tools and training May be seen as pushing back on manualized treatments that do not seem to focus on the relationship sufficiently Therapeutic drift can happen when the therapist and client are not in agreement or clear on the goals for treatment Not sticking to the plan for treatment and failing to make progress Mislabeling of treatment interventions What factors contribute to therapeutic drift? Client factors include avoiding talking about treatment goals Lack of adherent training and understanding of the models Therapist factors include not identifying optimal treatment methods or structures upon which to build creative intervention Therapists doing what feels good to them versus what is best for the client Systemic factors including teaching too many theories without sufficient depth How can we mitigate the risks of therapeutic drift? Practice-based evidence Setting treatment plans and single session agendas Outcome measures and client feedback Intentionality versus convenience Assessing bias and where our negative feelings about EBPs come from Collaborating with the client Deliberate practice Consultation, ongoing supervision Resources for Modern Therapists mentioned in this Podcast Episode:We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links. Please note that some of the links below may be affiliate links, so if you purchase after clicking below, we may get a little bit of cash in our pockets. We thank you in advance!Very Bad Therapy PodcastYou can find this full course (including handouts and resources) here: https://learn.moderntherapistcommunity.com/pages/podcourseContinuing Education Approvals:When we are airing this podcast episode, we have the following CE approval. Please check back as we add other approval bodies: Continuing Education InformationReferences mentioned in this continuing education podcast can be found in the course on our learning platform.Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement:Link tree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimaginedPatreonBuy Me A CoffeeModern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/

What Therapists Should Know About Dissociation and Dissociative Disorders: An Interview with Dr. Jamie MarichCurt and Katie interview Dr. Jamie Marich, author of Dissociation Made Simple, about dissociation and dissociative identities. We talk with Jamie about what therapists often get wrong as well as some basics on what dissociation is and how best to understand and treat it (when it actually needs treating).Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!In this podcast episode, we talk about how therapists can support clients navigating dissociationA friend of the show, Dr. Jamie Marich, wrote a book Dissociation Made Simple, and we wanted to talk about it!What are therapists getting wrong when learning about and treating dissociation? Not believing in dissociative identities or dissociative systems Fear of and misunderstanding of dissociation Thinking of dissociation as a dirt word and something to avoid Believing that dissociation must always be healed (when in fact it could be useful at times) What is dissociation? What is dissociative identity disorder or dissociative experience? Exploring different definitions and conceptualizations It is a lot of different things Severing/separating from the present moment or from aspects of ourselves Disaggregation or dividing your self into parts Purposeful, meeting a need or protection The shift to thinking about elements of dissociation as adaptive or maladaptive situationally How can therapists support clients in understanding and managing their own dissociation? Helping clients to identify what purpose their dissociation is serving Assessing dissociative profile through an inventory in the book (triggers, how we dissociate, adaptive/maladaptive) All dissociative behaviors can be assessed as adaptive or maladaptive How can a therapist assess for dissociative identities or systems? Language may vary (parts, defenders, team, selves, side, aspect, etc.) Previous diagnosis or self-diagnosis Listen for the experience (a “part of me” wants this, a “side of me” wants this) Speaking in a parts-informed way Exploring for thinking from different parts of self, potentially even already with names Dissociative Identities inventories What are clinical goals with clients who have dissociative experiences and/or identities? When working with someone with a system, will need to get buy in from all elements of the team for treatment goals Goals may not align across different parts The theory that you’re working with a family Many clients have Chronic PTSD and the focus of treatment may be trauma The importance of being trauma informed Grounding, anchoring, or settling into the present moment The goal is usually NOT integration Cohesion, communication, or cooperation How can therapists overcome their fear about dissociation? Identifying your own dissociation Overcoming the “us versus them” related to dissociation Moving away from bias and stereotypes of folks who dissociate Resources for Modern Therapists mentioned in this Podcast Episode:We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links. Please note that some of the links below may be affiliate links, so if you purchase after clicking below, we may get a little bit of cash in our pockets. We thank you in advance!Dissociation Made Simple (the book)Jamie’s website: redefinetherapy.comJamie’s social media: Trauma Therapist Rants on TwitterTrauma Therapist Rants on TikTokStay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement:PatreonBuy Me A CoffeeModern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/

Understanding Your Money in Private Practice: An Interview with Jennie SchottmillerCurt and Katie interview Jennie Schottmiller, LMFT, CPA, about understanding your numbers when starting a private practice. We explore the simple math that can help you create consistent income and decrease your anxiety about running a business. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!In this podcast episode, we talk about how therapists can handle their private practice financesWe reached out to our friend, Jennie Schottmiller, to talk about the basics of bookkeeping in private practice. What are the business decisions therapists need to make when starting a private practice? Bookkeeping platforms Types of business How to stabilize their income What to pay themselves How do therapists create consistent income? Understanding the ebb and flow of the business Identifying how to pay a consistent income every month What are the fears that many private practice owners have? (And how can they deal with them?) What do I need to plan for (i.e., rational fears) What do I need to talk myself of the ledge about (i.e., irrational fears) The fear of math can keep folks from figuring out how to make the money work The benefits of starting slow and managing your expenses from the beginning Creating financial cushions to avoid freaking out What are best practices for addressing your books in private practice? How often should you look at your books? What numbers are you looking at? When should you hire a bookkeeper? What should you know about your books before you hire a bookkeeper? How to design your books to best monitor your unique business Managing expenses and understanding what you’re paying for Looking at year over year changes and trends to plan How can a therapist navigate their neurodivergence and starting a business? Understanding your capacities and what your challenges are Creating a plan to get stuff done Putting systems in place to address your challenges that works for how your brain works Resources for Modern Therapists mentioned in this Podcast Episode:We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links. Please note that some of the links below may be affiliate links, so if you purchase after clicking below, we may get a little bit of cash in our pockets. We thank you in advance!Simple Profit websiteSimple Profit on InstagramSimple Profit on FacebookFree Facebook group: Simple Profit for Mental Health CliniciansStay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement:PatreonBuy Me A CoffeeModern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/

Has Therapy Become the New Religion?Curt and Katie chat about op ed pieces from the New York Times, where there are a lot of opinions on what therapy is and should be. We explore comparisons of therapy to religion, the notion that going to therapy makes one good, safe and dateable, and how therapy seems to have invaded our lives.   Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!In this podcast episode we talk about the opinion that therapy has become morally goodKatie likes reading New York Times Op Ed pieces on what therapy is now. We decided to explore some of the questions these articles raise.What does the New York Times have to say about therapy and therapists? Going to therapy makes you a good person Putting that you’re going to therapy on your dating app is a cheat code – meaning that you are safe to date We have reached a point where we’re more focused on “mental health” than on mental illness Therapy-speak has invaded everything It is toxic to tell everyone to go to therapy What is leading to comparisons of therapy to religion? Decreased membership in organized religion Finding your own morals and values outside of organized religion Finding meaning and purpose through the work you do in therapy A fear of the degradation of social contracts and a rise of moral relativism How are people framing the role of the therapist? Potential for individual exploration of how to live one’s life that is individualized and less tied to specific doctrine Another potential to be seen as giving direction on how to live life The role of community care versus individualized healing Relationship versus individual focus The nuance of what therapy is versus the fears of what is being done What is the fear about therapy being so central in our lives? The worry that people are too self-focused and not sufficiently other focused Pushing back on the status quo and established systems The notion that “therapy is good” and “all people need therapy” Therapy as a status symbol or a designation that I’m a good person Lack of access for folks with mental illness due to “worried well” and “personal growth” clients taking all of the spots Resources for Modern Therapists mentioned in this Podcast Episode:We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links. Please note that some of the links below may be affiliate links, so if you purchase after clicking below, we may get a little bit of cash in our pockets. We thank you in advance!New York Times’ Articles:Why Do People Think Going to Therapy Makes You A Good Person? By Mychal Denzel SmithWe Have Reached Peak ‘Mental Health’ by Huw GreenIs it Toxic to Tell Everyone to Get Therapy? By Zachary SiegelHow the Language of Therapy Took Over Dating by Dani BlumThe Problem with Letting Therapy-Speak Invade Everything by Tara Isabella BurtonOur Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimaginedRelevant Episodes of MTSG Podcast:Is Therapy an Opiate of the Masses?Navigating the Social Media Self-Diagnosis TrendModern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/

Understanding Impostor Syndrome in High Achievers: An Interview with Stevon Lewis, LMFTCurt and Katie interview Stevon Lewison working with high achievers who struggle with impostor syndrome. We explored what impostor syndrome is, how society contributes to impostor syndrome, how you can differentiate impostor syndrome from internalized racism, sexism, heterosexism, ableism, etc., the emotional impacts of impostor syndrome, and how therapists can work effectively with these clients. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!In this podcast episode, we talk about how impostor syndrome shows up in high achieversWe reached out to our friend, Stevon Lewis, to explore impostor syndrome. What do therapists miss related to treating impostor syndrome in high achievers? Looking at the symptoms versus the root cause Understanding the common patterns How does society contribute to impostor syndrome?  Productivity and detail-orientation are praised The role of humility and Stevon’s difficulty with the accepted definition of humility Subcultures that are hyper-focused on achievement and competition The impact of a marginalized identity or identities on impostor syndrome How can therapists support high achievers with impostor syndrome in therapy? Slowing down the conversation Shifting the language related to goal-setting Finding a path to celebrating wins Perspective taking on how you treat yourself versus how you treat others Self-compassion and self-understanding How do you sort out impostor syndrome from internalized racism, sexism, ableism, etc.? Contending with stereotypes and unreasonable expectations Looking at the environment within which someone is working or living The impact of parenting and what you’ve grown up with Emotional impacts of Impostor Syndrome Description of the inner bully Fear of being found out, not belonging Fear of being a disappointment or of being too successful The danger of exploitation, especially for folks who have traditionally been marginalized The pushback when you are being different What does healing look like for high achievers with impostor syndrome? Radical acceptance of self Getting freedom Self-compassion Resources for Modern Therapists mentioned in this Podcast Episode:We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links. Please note that some of the links below may be affiliate links, so if you purchase after clicking below, we may get a little bit of cash in our pockets. We thank you in advance!Stevon’s WebsiteStevon’s Journal: Silencing Your Inner BullyStay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement:LinkTreeModern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/