

Afternoon Cyber Tea with Ann Johnson
Microsoft
Ann Johnson, Corporate Vice President and Deputy Chief Information Security Officer at Microsoft, talks with cybersecurity thought leaders and influential industry experts about the trends shaping the cyber landscape and what should be top-of-mind for the C-suite and other key decision makers. Ann and her guests explore the risk and promise of emerging technologies, as well as the impact on how humans work, communicate, consume information, and live in this era of digital transformation. Please note, the opinions expressed by guests on this podcast are their own and are not endorsed by, nor do they necessarily reflect opinions of, Microsoft or Ann Johnson.
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Mar 17, 2026 • 29min
Code War with Allie Mellen
Allie Mellen, cybersecurity analyst and author, joins Ann on this week’s episode of Afternoon Cyber Tea to discuss her new book Code War: How Nations Hack, Spy, and Shape the Digital Battlefield. Allie explores how cyber conflict is deeply connected to geopolitics, history, and national strategy, arguing that cyberattacks are not mysterious acts of chaos, but tools used by governments to pursue economic, military, and political goals. The conversation unpacks common misconceptions about nation-state cyber threats, why organizations of all sizes can become collateral damage in global conflicts, and how leaders should think about cyber risk in an era of increasing geopolitical tension.
Resources:
View Allie Mellen on LinkedIn
View Ann Johnson on LinkedIn
Related Microsoft Podcasts:
Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast
The BlueHat Podcast
Uncovering Hidden Risks
Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts
Afternoon Cyber Tea with Ann Johnson is produced by Microsoft, Hangar Studios and distributed as part of N2K media network.

Mar 3, 2026 • 29min
Why Cybersecurity Fails Without Trust
Cybersecurity leader and author George Finney joins Ann on this week’s episode of Afternoon Cyber Tea to explore how trust, communication, and culture shape effective security leadership. Drawing on his experience in higher education and enterprise environments, George explains why Zero Trust succeeds or fails based on people not technology, and how CISOs can better communicate risk to executives and boards. The conversation also dives into AI governance, relatable storytelling as a leadership tool, and why making cybersecurity approachable is essential for building resilient organizations.
Resources:
View George Finney on LinkedIn
View Ann Johnson on LinkedIn
Related Microsoft Podcasts:
Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast
The BlueHat Podcast
Uncovering Hidden Risks
Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts
Afternoon Cyber Tea with Ann Johnson is produced by Microsoft, Hangar Studios and distributed as part of N2K media network.

Feb 17, 2026 • 27min
Dawn Song: When AI Becomes the Hacker and the Defender
Dawn Song, Professor of Computer Science at UC Berkeley, joins Ann on this week’s episode of Afternoon Cyber Tea to explore how AI is rapidly reshaping the threat landscape. Dawn shares research from projects like Cyber Gym, demonstrating how frontier AI models are increasingly capable of identifying vulnerabilities, including zero-day exploits and generating proof-of-concept attacks, while also helping defenders automate patching and strengthen resilience.
The conversation examines adversarial AI, agentic systems, data privacy risks, and the need for science and evidence-based AI policy. Dawn closes with an optimistic vision for the future: using AI-driven formal verification to build provably secure systems and move beyond the traditional cat-and-mouse security model.
Resources:
View Dawn Song on LinkedIn
View Ann Johnson on LinkedIn
Related Microsoft Podcasts:
Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast
The BlueHat Podcast
Uncovering Hidden Risks
Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts
Afternoon Cyber Tea with Ann Johnson is produced by Microsoft, Hangar Studios and distributed as part of N2K media network.

Feb 3, 2026 • 27min
Trust Is Patient Well-being: Rob Suárez on Cybersecurity in Healthcare
Rob Suárez, Vice President and Chief Information Security Officer at CareFirst BlueCross BlueShield joins Ann on this week’s episode of Afternoon Cyber Tea. In the conversation, Rob shares how his career path and personal philosophy have shaped a mission-driven approach to cybersecurity that places patient trust, safety, and privacy at the center of every decision. He discusses the unique challenges of securing a deeply interconnected healthcare ecosystem, the critical role of culture and cyber literacy across organizations, and why transparency and resilience are essential during incidents. The episode also explores secure-by-design principles, the ethical use of AI in healthcare, and how the CISO role is evolving toward a broader focus on trust, collaboration, and human impact.
Resources:
View Rob Suárez on LinkedIn
View Ann Johnson on LinkedIn
Related Microsoft Podcasts:
Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast
The BlueHat Podcast
Uncovering Hidden Risks
Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts
Afternoon Cyber Tea with Ann Johnson is produced by Microsoft, Hangar Studios and distributed as part of N2K media network.

Jan 20, 2026 • 27min
The New Reality of the CISO Role
David Gee, a veteran CISO, CIO, board advisor, and author, joins Ann Johnson, CVP of Cybersecurity, Microsoft, on this week’s episode of Afternoon Cyber Tea. Drawing on decades of experience and insights from his books, Gee explores the gap between theory and reality for security leaders, the role of imposter syndrome in professional growth, and why embracing discomfort is essential to effective leadership. The conversation examines how CISOs can balance risk management with business enablement, reset expectations with boards and executives, and build resilient, team-driven security cultures. Gee also shares perspectives on mentorship, long-term sustainability in the role, and how the CISO must evolve from a control-focused operator to a strategic influencer in an era shaped by AI, regulation, and constant change.
Resources:
View David Gee on LinkedIn
View Ann Johnson on LinkedIn
Related Microsoft Podcasts:
Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast
The BlueHat Podcast
Uncovering Hidden Risks
Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts
Afternoon Cyber Tea with Ann Johnson is produced by Microsoft, Hangar Studios and distributed as part of N2K media network.

Jan 6, 2026 • 37min
The Best of Afternoon Cyber Tea 2025
On this special best of episode of Afternoon Cyber Tea, Ann revisits six standout conversations from the past year with Amy Edmondson, Christina Morillo, Frank X. Shaw, Hugh Thompson, Troy Hunt, and Jack Rhysider. Together, these moments highlight the evolving human and technical challenges shaping cybersecurity today, from trust and transparency to breach response, leadership under pressure, AI disruption, and the realities facing defenders on the front lines. This curated collection offers a fast-moving look at the insights, lessons, and big ideas that defined the season.
Resources:
View Ann Johnson on LinkedIn
Related Microsoft Podcasts:
Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast
The BlueHat Podcast
Uncovering Hidden Risks
Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts
Afternoon Cyber Tea with Ann Johnson is produced by Microsoft, Hangar Studios and distributed as part of N2K media network.

Dec 23, 2025 • 24min
Lorrie Cranor: Why Security Fails Real People
Dr. Lorrie Cranor, Director of the CyLab Security and Privacy Institute at Carnegie Mellon University joins Ann Johnson, Corporate Vice President, Microsoft, on this week's episode of Afternoon Cyber Tea to discuss the critical gap between security design and real-world usability. They explore why security tools often fail users, the ongoing challenges with passwords and password less authentication, and how privacy expectations have evolved in an era of constant data collection. Dr. Cranor emphasizes the importance of user-centered design, practical research, behavioral insights, and simpler, more transparent systems to help CISOs build security programs that truly work for people.
Resources:
View Lorrie Cranor on LinkedIn
View Ann Johnson on LinkedIn
Related Microsoft Podcasts:
Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast
The BlueHat Podcast
Uncovering Hidden Risks
Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts
Afternoon Cyber Tea with Ann Johnson is produced by Microsoft, Hangar Studios and distributed as part of N2K media network.

Dec 9, 2025 • 32min
Inside Data Breaches and Human Behavior with Troy Hunt
Troy Hunt, founder of Have I Been Pwned, joins Ann on this week's episode of Afternoon Cyber Tea to explore what billions of breached records reveal about attacker behavior, human weakness, and the state of breach disclosure. He explains why organizations often hesitate to notify victims, how breach fatigue shapes user responses, and why transparency is both powerful and challenging. Troy also shares how he personally fell for a phishing attack, illustrating that even experts have moments of vulnerability. The conversation points toward a more resilient future and what it will take for both people and organizations to stay ahead of evolving threats.
Resources:
View Troy Hunt on LinkedIn
View Ann Johnson on LinkedIn
Related Microsoft Podcasts:
Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast
The BlueHat Podcast
Uncovering Hidden Risks
Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts
Afternoon Cyber Tea with Ann Johnson is produced by Microsoft, Hangar Studios and distributed as part of N2K media network.

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Nov 25, 2025 • 31min
Educating for Resilience: STEM, AI, and the Future of Cybersecurity
Brad L. Mortensen, President of Weber State University, joins to discuss how higher education is evolving to meet cybersecurity workforce demands. He highlights the importance of open enrollment and stackable credentials that cater to diverse backgrounds. Brad emphasizes the need for durable human skills like problem-solving alongside technical training. He also explores the role of AI in classrooms, urging responsible use, and shares insights on forming industry partnerships to create hands-on experiences for students.

Nov 11, 2025 • 36min
How Microsoft Is Redefining Global Cyber Defense
Amy Hogan-Burney, Corporate Vice President of Customer Trust and Security at Microsoft joins Ann on this week's episode of Afternoon Cyber Tea to discuss her unexpected journey into cybersecurity, Microsoft’s evolving approach to combating global cybercrime, and the importance of collaboration across the private and public sectors. She reflects on lessons from the latest Microsoft Digital Defense Report, the growing impact of AI on security, and the challenges of regulatory complexity. Amy also shares insights on cyber diplomacy, building strong legal-technical partnerships, and the career advice that’s guided her path all while remaining optimistic about the future of cybersecurity.
Resources:
View Amy Hogan-Burney on LinkedIn
View Ann Johnson on LinkedIn
Related Microsoft Podcasts:
Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast
The BlueHat Podcast
Uncovering Hidden Risks
Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts
Afternoon Cyber Tea with Ann Johnson is produced by Microsoft and distributed as part of N2K media network.


