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The Center for a Stateless Society (C4SS.org) is an anarchist think-tank and media center. Its mission is to explain and defend the idea of vibrant social cooperation without aggression, oppression, or centralized authority.
In particular, it seeks to enlarge public understanding and transform public perceptions of anarchism, while reshaping academic and movement debate, through the production and distribution of market anarchist media content, both scholarly and popular.
It is also the home of Mutual Exchange Radio, a new podcast on anarchist thought, hosted by Zachary Woodman. The show brings together a wide variety of guests, from academics, to on-the-ground activists, to Center scholars, to entrepreneurs to discuss the latest developments in the philosophy and practice of market anarchism.
In particular, it seeks to enlarge public understanding and transform public perceptions of anarchism, while reshaping academic and movement debate, through the production and distribution of market anarchist media content, both scholarly and popular.
It is also the home of Mutual Exchange Radio, a new podcast on anarchist thought, hosted by Zachary Woodman. The show brings together a wide variety of guests, from academics, to on-the-ground activists, to Center scholars, to entrepreneurs to discuss the latest developments in the philosophy and practice of market anarchism.
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Feb 2, 2022 • 1h 53min
Meet the Hosts: Cory Massimino & Alex McHugh
This year, C4SS Fellow Cory Massimino joins Alex McHugh as a host for Mutual Exchange Radio. For this first episode of the season, we sat down together to talk about intellectual influences, the upcoming podcast season, and C4SS's forthcoming Mutual Exchange Symposium on Egoism and Anarchism. See the Mutual Exchange Symposium starting 2/2/2022 at: https://c4ss.org/content/category/mutual-exchange

Dec 31, 2021 • 1h 45min
Nathan Goodman on Border Militarization and Foreign Policy
In our final episode for the year, Alex McHugh interviews a return guest to the show Nathan Goodman. We focus on Nathan's recent paper, published with Chris Coyne, "U.S. Border Militarization and Foreign Policy: A Symbiotic Relationship" - https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3961152 Nathan is a Postdoctoral Fellow in the Department of Economics at New York University, affiliated with the Program on the Foundations of the Market Economy. He earned his Ph.D. in economics at George Mason University, where he was a Ph.D. fellow with the Mercatus Center and a Graduate Fellow with the F.A. Hayek Program for Advanced Study in Philosophy, Politics, and Economics. Nathan's research broadly focuses on political economy, applied microeconomics, market process economics, New Institutional Economics, and defense economics. He analyzes how alternative institutional arrangements shape the provision of security.

Oct 31, 2021 • 1h 10min
Gary Chartier & Charles Johnson on "Markets Not Capitalism" 10 Years On
For the 10-year anniversary of what many would consider our foundational book, C4SS Mutual Exchange Coordinator Cory Massimino interviewed Markets Not Capitalism editors Charles Johnson and Gary Chartier. They discuss the legacy and impact of MNC ten years on! If you've not read it, you can find the free .pdf and audiobook at: c4ss.org/content/12802

Sep 25, 2021 • 1h 54min
Gus diZerega on Democracy as a Spontaneous Order
In this episode of MER, Alex McHugh interview Gus diZerega on his work around democracy as a spontaneous order. Gus is a retired professor with a Ph.D in Political Science from the University of California, Berkeley. He is now an independent scholar and has been involved in an ongoing back and forth on libertarianism with our own Roderick Long. Read more about Gus diZerega at www.dizerega.com. Reading list: "Democracies are Spontaneous Orders, not States, and Why It is Important," Cosmos + Taxis, [cosmosandtaxis.files.wordpress.com/2019/11/ct_vol7_iss3_4_dizerega.pdf] "Outgrowing Methodological Individualism: Emergence, spontaneous orders, and civil society," Cosmos + Taxis, [cosmosandtaxis.files.wordpress.com/2021/07/dizerega_ct_vol9_iss_7_8.pdf] "Spontaneous Order and Liberalism's Complex Relation to Democracy," The Independent Review, [www.independent.org/publications/tir/article.asp?id=849] Ours: The Case For Universal Property, Peter Barnes [peter-barnes.org/book/ours-the-case-for-universal-property/] "Turning the Tables: The Pathologies and Unrealized Promise of Libertarianism," Molinari Review, [praxeology.net/MR1-1-S16-DIZEREGA.pdf]

Sep 5, 2021 • 1h 17min
Evan Pierce on Universal Ecological Infrastructure
We're back! A little late, but hopefully worth it, here's our "August" episode of Mutual Exchange Radio. In this episode Alex McHugh stands in for host Zachary Woodman to interview C4SS editing coordinator Evan Pierce. Evan is a gardener, builder, and anarchist working on generating and regenerating universal ecological infrastructure. They're into the cross-pollination of ideas and intersections of praxis between anarchism, permaculture, and transhumanism. Read Evan's essay "Beyond UBI: Sowing the Seeds of Universal Ecological Infrastructure": https://c4ss.org/content/52790

Aug 9, 2021 • 1h 19min
The Outgroup: Industry Baby, Climate Change, & The Space Race
Here's something a little different! We've released this episode of The Outgroup publicly both as a way to announce our new Patreon levels and as a sort of apology for the recent gap in MER episodes. Thanks for your patience while we sorted things out! Mutual Exchange Radio will be back a the end of this month. In the meantime, we hope you enjoy this episode of The Outgroup, our roundtable current events podcast that's usually only available to our supporters on Patreon. Recorded on August 1st, this episode features Alex McHugh, Logan Marie Glitterbomb, Evan Pierce, and Joel Williamson.

May 28, 2021 • 2h 9min
Jesse Spafford on the Libertarian Case Against Property Rights
In this episode of Mutual Exchange Radio, host Zachary Woodman interviews Jesse Spafford. Jesse is a Research Fellow at Trinity College Dublin working on the project REAL - Rights and Egalitarianism. His research is focused on social and political philosophy with particular attention paid to debates between libertarians, socialists, and anarchists over the moral status of the market and the state. Jesse espouses a version of left-libertarianism that's quite different from what you'll hear promoted by many here at the Center—a philosophical position that holds that certain moral principles traditionally associated with libertarianism are compatible with egalitarian views about the distribution of resources. It's a great episode for libertarians and anarchists alike. As Zach and Jesse dig into these differences and discuss what a stateless society should look like, you'll find yourself questioning all kinds of prior assumptions. Further Reading: "Social Anarchism and the Rejection of Private Property," The Routledge Handbook of Anarchy and Anarchist Thought "Does Initial Appropriation Create New Obligations?" Journal of Ethics and Social Philosophy (jesp.org)

Apr 20, 2021 • 55min
Dispatches from Russia (C4SS Around the World)
In this special edition of Mutual Exchange Radio, Alex McHugh interviews Ilya, a Russian social anarchist and anti-fascist. Ilya has written for C4SS a couple of times as well as translating some English articles into Russian. In this interview, part of our "Around the World" mini-series with C4SS contributors across the world, we dig into the current muted nature of Russian political activism, the Russian far-right and the dangers they pose, and antifascist hardcore and anarcho-chanson music. Get the "Dispatches from Russia" Zine: https://store.c4ss.org/index.php/product/dispatches-from-russia-reports-from-citizen-ilya/ Additional Notes: "Coronavirus: Why Mutual Aid is Important": https://c4ss.org/content/52819 "The Russian Government's Far Right Friends": https://c4ss.org/content/53943 More on "Male State" (Russian group similar to the Proud Boys): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_State Shared equity construction fraud in Russia: https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018/may/30/investment-scandal-russia-defrauded-coinvestors Russian antifascist music recommendations Проверочная Линейка (Proverochnaya Lineyka): https://soundcloud.com/provierochnaialinieika What We Feel: https://www.last.fm/music/What+We+Feel Moscow Death Brigade: https://moscowdeathbrigade.bandcamp.com/ Techno Poetry: https://technopoetry.bandcamp.com/

Mar 17, 2021 • 1h 6min
Shikha Dalmia on Immigration and Populism
In this episode of Mutual Exchange Radio, host Zachary Woodman interviews libertarian commentator Shikha Dalmia. Shikha is a former policy analyst for the Reason Foundation and has contributed to publications including Bloomberg View, the Washington Examiner, Reason magazine, The Wall Street Journal, and USA Today. In this interview, we discuss two timely issues in American politics: immigration and populism. Starting with a philosophical discussion of what our priorities should be in how we respond to rising populism and authoritarianism, we discuss various options for moving forward. Should we move more radically in order to try and protect the rights of those targeted by populists and authoritarians -- or, as Shikha suggests, should we focus on limiting the damage done to liberal democratic institutions by surging populism? Thank you for your continued support! Look out next month for a return to more radical perspectives after this deep dive into democracy and liberalism for the start of the season. You can always give us feedback or suggest guests by emailing us at editor@C4SS.org, or by sending us a message on Patreon! And we're back on YouTube! You can now find Mutual Exchange Radio, The Enragés, and bonus content like our recent live episode of The Outgroup, our roundtable show for patrons on the C4SS YouTube channel.

Jan 15, 2021 • 51min
No Bosses, No Landlords, No Bureaucrats!
We're excited to share this pilot episode of our new show with Joel Williamson, The Enragés. Joining Mutual Exchange Radio on the C4SS podcast roster this year, The Enragés will take a deep dive into the recent works of C4SS writers and scholars on the site. You can find the new show in all the same places as Mutual Exchange Radio, including Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher, YouTube, and on our Patreon. In this first episode of The Enragés, host Joel Williamson sits down with Kevin Carson to discuss Kevin's recent piece on the Center for a Stateless Society website "The Myth of the Private Sector, Part I: Why Big-Small and Vertical-Horizontal Trumps 'Public-Private'"—a conversion that spans from the role of government interference in the scale and structure of economic institutions to the definitions of "large" and "small" to possible right-libertarian objections to Kevin's argument and beyond. Kevin Carson is a senior fellow of the Center for a Stateless Society (c4ss.org) and holds the Center's Karl Hess Chair in Social Theory. He is an anarchist without adjectives, heavily influenced by autonomism and the new municipalist movements. His written work includes Studies in Mutualist Political Economy, Organization Theory: A Libertarian Perspective, The Homebrew Industrial Revolution: A Low-Overhead Manifesto, and The Desktop Regulatory State all of which are freely available online. His book Exodus: General Idea of the Revolution in the XXI Century is forthcoming. Carson has also written for such print publications as The Freeman: Ideas on Liberty and a variety of internet-based journals and blogs, including Just Things and The Art of the Possible, as well as his own blogs, Mutualist Blog and Tea, Earl Grey, Hot.


