

Cults to Consciousness
Shelise Ann Sola
Survivor stories of claiming independence after leaving high-control groups & people. Cults to Consciousness is a YouTube channel and podcast, hosted by Shelise Ann Sola (a former devout Mormon & CSA survivor) and her Producer husband, Jonathan Rosales. C2C delves into the nuanced experiences of individuals who have escaped a broad spectrum of high-control groups and coercive environments. They are not anti-religious but firmly anti-abuse, aiming to shed light on manipulative practices and systems, while promoting compassion, understanding, and accountability. C2C has attracted a kind and engaged community who thoughtfully support their guests. Follow to join them on their advocacy mission.
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Jun 18, 2025 • 1h 4min
Regrets of an Ex-Evangelical Pentecostal Pastor (ft. Timmy Gibson)
After an open and honest conversation, we are again joined LIVE today with Timmy Gibson, a former fundamental Evangelical Pentecostal Pastor who started his own church with 300 followers. We further dive into his reflections and regrets during his time as a “Healing Evangelist” who taught his followers how to speak in tongues.
Click here to watch on YouTube
Watch initial interview here
Find Timmy on social media:
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@timmygibsonkc
IG: @timmygibsonkc
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Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_
TikTok @cults.to.consciousness
Twitter @cultstocon
**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jun 17, 2025 • 1h 1min
From Isolated Catholic Cult to “Witch of Wall Street” (ft. Patricia Walsh Chadwick)
Following up her incredible interview recounting how she grew up in a religious community-turned-cult called the Center, today Patricia Walsh Chadwick joins us live to discuss what happened after.
At the age of seventeen she was forced out of her home, leaving behind her entire family, and without access to higher education. From her first job as a receptionist at a brokerage firm, she clawed her way up the ladder—rung by rung—in that bastion of male chauvinism: Wall Street. By going to college at night, she achieved her degree in economics from Boston University, and from there, she headed to New York City. With a drive that earned her the moniker “Witch of Wall Street,” she rose from the ranks of research analyst to portfolio manager, where she was responsible for billions of dollars in pension and endowment assets. A turning point in her life was giving birth to twins at the age of forty-five, and she continued forward in her career, becoming a global partner at Invesco. At the turn of the millennium, she left Wall Street behind and embarked on a second career as a corporate board director.
Click to watch on YouTube
Watch her initial interview here
Connect with Patricia on social media:
Website: https://www.patriciachadwick.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/patriciachadwickauthor
LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/patriciachadwick1/
IG: @patriciawalshchadwick
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@patriciachadwick6951
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TikTok @cults.to.consciousness
Twitter @cultstocon
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Jun 17, 2025 • 1h 23min
Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary: Separated Children, Married Couples Ordered to Celibacy
From the age of six through her high school years, Patricia Walsh Chadwick was raised in The Center, an isolated, rural community of 100 members, including 39 children, led by Father Leonard Feeney, an excommunicated Jesuit priest, and managed with an iron fist by his spiritual alter ego, Catherine Clarke. Together, they created a monastic environment that demanded obedience, silence, chastity, and detachment from family, achieved by separating parents from their children and forbidding members to read newspapers, watch television, listen to the radio, or communicate with outsiders. Patricia defied Sister Catherine’s mission to mold her into a compliant, submissive nun. At 17, in the middle of the turbulent 1960s, she was expelled from her home in Still River, Massachusetts, without a hint of how to survive, much less thrive, in an unfamiliar and frightening world.
Today, Patricia has had a successful 30-year career in the investment business, culminating as a Global Partner at Invesco, as she he sits on a number of corporate boards and blogs on economic, social, and political issues. Patricia is author of BREAKING GLASS: Tales from the Witch of Wall Street, as well as a previous memoir, Little Sister, where she recounts her time in the cult.
Click here to watch on YouTube
Connect with Patricia on social media:
Website: https://www.patriciachadwick.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/patriciachadwickauthor
LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/patriciachadwick1/
IG: @patriciawalshchadwick
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@patriciachadwick6951
We want to meet you in real life! Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION! Click here to go to the official booking page
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Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.
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Find us on Social media!
Instagram @cultstoconsciousness
Host Instagram @sheliseann
Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_
TikTok @cults.to.consciousness
Twitter @cultstocon
**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
00:02:55 Patricia's daughter helps her realize she grew up in a cult
00:06:23 A small Catholic church becomes isolated and more communally oriented
00:17:47 How chiIdren were isolated even further within the group and some of the rules they were required to follow
00:20:44 Sister Catherine continues to isolate families while breaking the rules herself
00:25:25 A militaristic lifestyle in the countryside of Massachusetts
00:27:06 Restricting outside influences and stripping away individuality
00:30:45 Still nurturing familial connections while under strict rules and job assignments
00:34:28 A matriarchal leader in a patriarchal world and how members were indoctrinated daily
00:39:36 How Patricia's lack of knowledge impacted her understanding of marriage
00:41:17 How Sister Catherine's personal beliefs directly influenced the lives of many
00:44:41 Patricia's meeting with Sister Catherine about her future
00:50:11 How Patricia felt about leaving and how she views cult like representation in the media
00:55:17 How Patricia was able to succeed on Wall Street after leaving the cult
01:10:42 How other members left before and after Sister Catherine's death
01:14:41 What Patricia's relationship with her family is like today
01:16:28 How Patricia is doing now
01:18:22 Linda, listen
01:18:51 Patricia's plans for more books in the future and her role models Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jun 16, 2025 • 58min
Married Gay Mormons Now Accepted by LDS Church?
The Mormon church has always claimed to be accepting of everyone including the LGBTQ+ community. However, their actions and words spoken to the congregations paint a very different picture. You can be gay, but in order to receive all the blessings from God, you must remain celibate. It has come to our attention that in some wards (congregations), openly married gay couples have not only been able to keep their membership (rather than be excommunicated), but are allowed to take the sacrament and even hold important positions in the church.
Joined by Dillan, who was recently featured on Jubilee’s Middleground “Mormons vs Ex-Mormons”, and @nuancehoe , we discuss these monumental changes in the right direction.
After the live, you will be automatically redirected to another live stream on Carah’s channel to hear more of Dillan’s story: https://www.youtube.com/live/tRYIIyI7fIE?si=OeCtP8XmRJltoPtJ
Click here to watch on YouTube
Find Dillan's recent appearance on Jubliee's "Can Mormons and Ex Mormons See Eye to Eye? | Middle Ground" video here
Check out Nuancehoe's reaction to Jublilee's video:
Mormons BOMB In Cringeworthy Debate | ExMo Jubilee Reaction
Check out Mormon Stories' reaction to Jubliee's video:
"Jubilee's “Mormons vs Ex-Mormons” on Middle Ground - Ex-Mormon Cast Reacts | Ep. 186"
Mormon Stories Episode further expanding on the topic:
Married Gay Mormons Get Sacrament and Callings
Find Dillan Conrad on IG @dillanconrad
Follow and Support Carah!
YouTube: @carrahburrell
Instagram: @nuancehoe
Tiktok: @nuancehoe
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/nuancehoe
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Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.
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Instagram @cultstoconsciousness
Host Instagram @sheliseann
Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_
TikTok @cults.to.consciousness
Twitter @cultstocon
**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
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Jun 16, 2025 • 1h 43min
The Mormon Death March The Church Doesn’t Want You To Know About
This horrifying, avoidable tragedy is something the LDS church lies about to its members to promote faith. In reality, greed and purposely cutting corners led faithful saints to a horrible fate.
Join @nuancehoe and I as we read actual journal entries from people who took this perilous 1300 mile trek to settle Utah.
Click here to watch on YouTube
Read “Devil’s Gate: Brigham Young and the Great Mormon Handcart Tragedy”
Follow and Support Carah!
YouTube: @carrahburrell
Instagram: @nuancehoe
Tiktok: @nuancehoe
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/nuancehoe
We want to meet you in real life! Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION! Click here to go to the official booking page
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Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.
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Instagram @cultstoconsciousness
Host Instagram @sheliseann
Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_
TikTok @cults.to.consciousness
Twitter @cultstocon
**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
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Jun 16, 2025 • 1h 15min
Mormonism, Explained ft. Carah Burrell
More dangerous Mormon propaganda explained and your questions answered with Carrah Burrell!
Click here to watch on YouTube
Follow and Support Carah!
YouTube: @carrahburrell
YouTube: @carrahburrell
Instagram: @nuancehoe
Tiktok: @nuancehoe
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/nuancehoe
We want to meet you in real life! Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION! Click here to go to the official booking page
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Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.
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Find us on Social media!
Instagram @cultstoconsciousness
Host Instagram @sheliseann
Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_
TikTok @cults.to.consciousness
Twitter @cultstocon
**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
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Jun 13, 2025 • 2h 22min
An Ex-Mormon & Ex-Muslim Compare ALL Notes ft. Apostate Aladdin
After a preliminary discussion about the many similarities between Islam and Mormonism, tonight we go into further detail with @apostatealaddin who grew up in the purity culture of Islam within Saudi Arabia. Join us as we compare and contrast the rest of the list.
Click here to watch pt. 1
Click here to watch pt. 2
Click here to watch pt. 3 (this episode)
You can watch his full interview here
Find Apostate Aladdin
YouTube: @ApostateAladdin
IG: @apostatealaddin
LinkTree https://linktr.ee/ApostateAladdin
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Instagram @cultstoconsciousness
Host Instagram @sheliseann
Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_
TikTok @cults.to.consciousness
Twitter @cultstocon
**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
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Jun 13, 2025 • 41min
An Ex-Mormon & Ex-Muslim Compare Notes ft. Apostate Aladdin
After an incredible conversation with @apostatealaddin about the purity culture he grew up in within Islam in Saudi Arabia, we realized there were many similarities between Islam and Mormonism. Join us today as we compare and contrast a full list.
Make sure to stay on after our livestream has ended to be automatically directed to Apostate Aladdin's channel, where we will finish the conversation.
Click here to watch this interview (pt 1)
You can watch his full interview here
Find Apostate Aladdin
YouTube: @ApostateAladdin
IG: @apostatealaddin
LinkTree https://linktr.ee/ApostateAladdin
We want to meet you in real life! Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION! Click here to go to the official booking page
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Instagram @cultstoconsciousness
Host Instagram @sheliseann
Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_
TikTok @cults.to.consciousness
Twitter @cultstocon
**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
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Jun 13, 2025 • 59min
Extremists Threaten YouTuber for Speaking Out After Leaving Islam ft. Apostate Aladdin
@ApostateAladdin grew up in Saudi Arabia which is a Muslim majority country with strict laws originating from Islam. After going abroad to college, he recognized his learned racism, bigotry and bias was a direct reflection of the religion he was raised in. A deep dive into the theology, history and hadiths made him question everything, including his own ethics. He details how research and deep critical thinking led him to leave Islam behind, and what the consequences are of speaking out on his YouTube channel.
Click here to watch on YouTube
Watch his previous episodes here:
Ex-Muslim Opens Up About Sex and Islam in Saudi Arabia | The Story of @ApostateAladdin
An Ex-Mormon & Ex-Muslim Compare Notes ft. @ApostateAladdin
https://www.youtube.com/live/g0xEu2cacEo?si=TwWZtNPOLVeOZuA9
An Ex-Mormon & Ex-Muslim Compare ALL Notes ft. @ApostateAladdin
Find Apostate Aladdin on Social!
YouTube @ApostateAladdin
IG: @apostatealaddin
LinkTree https://linktr.ee/ApostateAladdin
We want to meet you in real life! Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION! Click here to go to the official booking page
Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!
Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.
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Venmo @sheliseann
Find us on Social media!
Instagram @cultstoconsciousness
Host Instagram @sheliseann
Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_
TikTok @cults.to.consciousness
Twitter @cultstocon
**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
00:04:34 Apostate Aladdin's life growing up in Saudi Arabia
00:07:03 How Apostate Aladdin's experiences with non Muslims deviated from what the Quran teaches
00:09:25 Islam: A religion of peace or a religion of violence
00:10:54 How a lack of context surrounding the Quran can lead to Islamic extremism
00:12:43 How beginning to question Islam impacted Apostate Aladdin
00:15:11 Other aspects of the Quran that led Apostate Aladdin to question Islam
00:17:27 When living a strict religious lifestyle doesn't provide answers to questions and doubts
00:21:32 Breaking core doctrine as step in the deconstruction process
00:24:50 Overcorrection after leaving and managing emotions effectively
00:27:41 The importance of having emotional outlets and having a community
00:31:40 Have empathy for those disparaging you
00:33:18 The role of labels and identity when leaving a high demand religion
00:36:49 When the status of someone's personal beliefs is a bigger deal to others than it is to them
00:37:59 Realities of speaking out against Islam and the very real threats that people face
00:42:44 What the justifications are for extreme laws regarding those who leave Islam or speak out about it
00:44:52 How the idea of a perfect Islamic practice can cause harm to others
00:47:09 The importance of nuance and different sects in the discussion of Islam
00:49:44 How Islam is growing so quickly and is on track to surpass Christianity in numbers
00:52:41 How identity and taking your time to find your identity after leaving Islam is important
00:54:07 How Apostate Aladdin chose his name
00:54:57 Advice for those who are leaving a high demand religion Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jun 12, 2025 • 36min
How Islam Appeals To & Radicalizes Its Youth ft. Infidel Noodle
Following up her incredible initial interview, today we are joined again by @InfidelNoodle . We discuss her research on youth Islamic radicalization and the internet, and how high control groups appeal to young people.
Raised in a strict Muslim community in Australia, YouTuber Infidel Noodle led a double life for 5 years before making the big decision to leave her parents’ home before marriage. This meant she would be cut off from her family due to disobedience and not fulfilling her role as a woman. When she posted on TikTok about her heartache being ostracized, her video went viral and she decided to remain vocal about the struggles exMuslims face. However, for the safety of her loved ones and herself, she wears a mask to remain anonymous.
Click here to watch on YouTube
Watch her initial interview here here
Find her on Social!
YT: https://www.youtube.com/@InfidelNoodle
IG: @infidel.noodle
Resource for those leaving Islam and need help: https://www.freeheartsfreeminds.com/
We want to meet you in real life! Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION! Click here to go to the official booking page
Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!
Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.
Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!
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Venmo @sheliseann
Find us on Social media!
Instagram @cultstoconsciousness
Host Instagram @sheliseann
Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_
TikTok @cults.to.consciousness
Twitter @cultstocon
**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.


