

The Tech Trek
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The Tech Trek is a podcast for the people building the next generation of technology companies. Host Amir Bormand talks with founders, CTOs, and engineering leaders about the real decisions behind scaling teams, shipping product, and growing a technical organization from the ground up.
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Jun 30, 2022 • 23min
Amin Lakhani - Should you elevate your best engineer to be a manager?
Highlights of my conversation with Amin:
Attributes of a strong engineer
Technical excellence doesn’t always mean being the best coder
Impacting the overall organization is a key attribute of a manager
Empathy is a key attribute of technical leadership
Look for opportunities to affect the larger organization
Enabling collaboration between managers and principal engineers
Having “operational rigor”
Meet: Amin Lakhani is the Director of Software Engineering at ServiceLink after spending the previous three years at Microsoft. He has an undergraduate degree from DePaul University in Math and Computer Science and an MBA from the University of Illinois.
If you have any questions for Amin, please feel free to reach out via:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/amin-lakhani/
I hope you enjoyed the episode. The best place to connect with me is on Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirbormand (Amir Bormand). Please send me a message if you want me to cover specific topics with future guests.

Jun 23, 2022 • 23min
Leon Fayer - Navigating engineering career and leadership growth
Highlights of my conversation with Leon:
Is moving into management the right next step for an employee
Create opportunities for an employee to gain some exposure to management
Helping employees navigate different career tracks
Finding the best fit for people you manage
The (possibly false) allure of moving into management
Keep evolving and growing your own managerial skills
Easier to take an opportunity to lead than wait for it to be given
Meet: Leon Fayer is a Vice President of Engineering at Teaching Strategies, a leader in early childhood education. He is a veteran technologist with over two decades of expertise focused on developing, architecting, and operating complex systems in support of organizational growth. Over his professional career, Leon worked with some of the most world-renowned organizations and agencies such as National Geographic, MTV, Wikipedia, Vodafone, White House, Toyota, and Soul Cycle. Leon is also a published author and an industry-renowned public speaker, writing and presenting on topics of industry trends and best practices, sharing his experience related to designing and operating technology-first organizations at scale.
If you have any questions for Leon, please feel free to reach out via:
https://twitter.com/papa_fire
https://www.linkedin.com/in/leonfayer
I hope you enjoyed the episode. The best place to connect with me is on Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirbormand (Amir Bormand). Please send me a message if you want me to cover specific topics with future guests.

Jun 16, 2022 • 33min
Neil Bhay - Evolving from smaller to larger engineering teams
Highlights of my conversation with Neil:
Stakeholder’s level of technical sophistication impacts the level of planning
Importance of the relationship with the product team
Envisioning the team's growth past the current state
Incubating a team until they are able to stand on their own
Avoiding being too tactical
Finding opportunities to piggyback new features into the existing work
Helping new team members buy into the vision by providing the history behind the team/company
Documentation will help the onboarding process
Avoiding the walled garden when implementing a squad structure
Combining project management and release management
Every squad has 3 owners to drive quality (product, engineering, release)
Meet: Neil Bhay is the CTO of TuneCore, a global platform for independent musicians. He joined TuneCore in 2018 with the mission to scale and introduce enterprise-level best practices to TuneCore’s organizational structure & technology stack. He evolved an original team of 6 & established agile processes to oversee remote/local teams of 65+ in IT, QA, Release Mgmt, DevOps & Engineering in operations of office, cloud infrastructure & web/native app development.
Neil comes from a history of managing enterprise technology teams at Viacom and HBO and, before that applying those same skills in start-up environments which contributed to his expertise in growing and organizing teams towards product delivery.
If you have any questions for Neil, please feel free to reach out via:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/neilbhay/
I hope you enjoyed the episode. The best place to connect with me is on Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirbormand (Amir Bormand). Please send me a message if you want me to cover specific topics with future guests.

Jun 9, 2022 • 43min
Round Table 1 - Focusing on hiring while retaining your talent
Topics we covered:
Retaining Top Talent
Understanding your employees before it's too late
Safe Spaces
Are more Engineering Managers better?
Hypergrowth Hiring
Diversity Hiring
Time spent on Talent Acquisition?
Offers strategy
Meet the guests:
Kirby Frugia - https://www.mural.co/blog/meet-kirby-frugia
Kirby Frugia is MURAL’s SVP of Engineering and is responsible for Product Engineering, DevOps, and Data Engineering. He joined the company in October 2020, and since then, he has grown his team from 48 MURAListas to over 200. Kirby first got into software engineering because he loves problem-solving and making things easier for people — whether that’s a process, a tool, or an experience. He’s always looking for ways to unlock someone’s creativity or ability to do more with what’s in front of them.
Ken Pickering - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kenpickering/
Ken Pickering is the SVP of Engineering at Starburst Data, where he's looking to help companies make better, faster decisions on more complete data. Before that, he was the CTO of Hopper and made travel easy and affordable.
David Ting - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dting
David Ting joined Nylas from Flexport, where he led platform Engineering. David brings nearly 30 years of experience leading high-performance engineering teams for companies as diverse as Yahoo!, IBM, and Activision | Blizzard.
I hope you enjoyed the episode. The best place to connect with me is on Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirbormand (Amir Bormand). Please send me a message if you want me to cover specific topics with future guests.

Jun 2, 2022 • 21min
Felix Sargent - How to deal with “code smell” ie technical debt
Highlights of my conversation with Felix:
Technical debt is a warning sign
Liability in the code is not the same as technical debt
Dealing with “code smell”
Trying to quantify technical debt
You need cause to dive into technical debt
Very important to set your standards
Define when things are “done”
Why are you digging into the code?
What things are and what they should be
Meet: Felix Sargent is a Sr Software Engineering Manager at Truework. He has years of experience working on high-throughput platforms at scale. He’s been part of the larger tech community since 2008, and has driven industry-wide conversations around flexible product management, API design, managing technical debt, and building engineering teams. He believes teams work best when they feel safe, and are well equipped for their challenging work.
His specialties are backend product and engineering management, developer tools, cloud infrastructure, containers, and deployment pipelines. He’s great at taking existing platforms and scaling them up to be more reliable, secure, and performant. He loves digging into obscure business logic and simplifying workflows.
If you have any questions for Felix, please feel free to reach out via:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/felixsargent/
I hope you enjoyed the episode. The best place to connect with me is on Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirbormand (Amir Bormand). Please send me a message if you want me to cover specific topics with future guests.

May 26, 2022 • 21min
Jeff Smith - Understanding how the CTO role will evolve as the team scales and grows
Highlights of my conversation with Jeff:
Wanting to join a company to impact individual lives
Adjusting to a HIPAA regulated industry
Understanding all aspects of data flow
Evolving to the strategic impact of the CTO role and shedding some hats (the last one being VP of Engineering)
Switching between the different hats (strategic vs technical)
Creating an organizational plan to balance the tech stack and career opportunities for growth
Meet: Jeff has been working in the technology space for over 20 years as everything from a software engineer, chief architect, Vice President of Engineering, and Chief Technology Officer. As the CTO at Octave, he will be expanding and scaling our world-class team of software engineers, evolving our architecture for scale, and guiding our technology to make the lives of clinicians and clients better.
Prior to joining Octave Jeff was in the Wellness space with TrueCoach, as well as the Enterprise SaaS space with Rally Software.
When not working, he can be found enjoying everything Colorado has to offer, including snowboarding, hiking, and cycling.
If you have any questions for Jeff, please feel free to reach out via:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jefmsmit
I hope you enjoyed the episode. The best place to connect with me is on Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirbormand (Amir Bormand). Please send me a message if you want me to cover specific topics with future guests.

May 19, 2022 • 24min
Nikhil Desai - Employee engagement in the engineering space
Highlights of my conversation with Nikhil:
It takes a village (people, executives, everyone) for employee engagement to be successful
Providing employees with safe spaces
Leveraging trends from survey data (NPS style)
Empower managers to align with individuals and their teams
Allow teams to make decentralized decisions on how they implement certain processes
Onboarding is a critical piece and starts before the start date
Meet: Nikhil Desai is an experienced software engineer with 15+ years of global high tech and FinTech experience. He is passionate about creating products that provide real value to customers and significantly impact society. He has worked on product development for the LendingClub platform, Citrix GoToMeeting, and several other high-scale software products and services. Recently, leading 60+ engineers at Earnest, a FinTech company focused on solving interesting problems in the student loans space
If you have any questions for Nikhil, please feel free to reach out via:
www.linkedin.com/in/nikhildesai
I hope you enjoyed the episode. The best place to connect with me is on Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirbormand (Amir Bormand). Please send me a message if you want me to cover specific topics with future guests.

May 12, 2022 • 26min
Ray Espinoza - Surveying and assessing the confidence in your security team
Highlights of my conversation with Ray:
Historically security was done in the shadows
Everyone is a partner to the security team
Give people a sense of ownership and their part in the security program
Drive surveys using tactical questions
Do employees have confidence in the security team handling relevant issues
If you have an external service, you should be thinking of security
Go back and resurvey after incorporating security changes
Share the security survey results with everyone and be transparent
Meet: Meet: Ray Espinoza is CISO at Inspectiv. At the time of recording, he was the VP of Cloud Security at Medallia. Before Medallia, Ray was CISO at Cobalt.io, a pentest-as-a-service company. Ray also drove third-party cloud security across Amazon's retail business. He also held VP and CISO roles with Atmosera and Proofpoint and various security leadership positions at Workday, Cisco Systems, and eBay.
If you have any questions for Ray, please feel free to reach out via:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ray-espinoza-b399821/
https://twitter.com/rayespinozasec
I hope you enjoyed the episode. The best place to connect with me is on Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirbormand (Amir Bormand). Please send me a message if you want me to cover specific topics with future guests.

May 5, 2022 • 22min
Dhara Patel - Visibility and ROI of internal platforms/shared services
Highlights of my conversation with Dhara:
Try to adopt a product mindset for shared services
Measure value in a tangible way
Focus on developer adoption as a metric
Direct impact on development life cycle
Celebrating for the team
With technical customers, a technical product manager would be helpful
Get client stakeholder engagement to understand and drive platform requirements
Building awareness around initiatives
Meet: Dhara Patel is SVP of Engineering, leading multiple groups building product platforms at Kinesso. She has industry experience in SaaS products and leading engineering teams in hyper-growth environments. Throughout her experience, she has led various platforms, services, data-centric products, and SaaS applications at scale. Before joining Kinesso, she led various engineering and product groups at Twilio and Citrix, building enterprise insights products, developer platforms, internal tools, and applications. She is passionate about leadership and enjoys working in areas where business meets engineering and innovation.
If you have any questions for Dhara, please feel free to reach out via:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dharapateldesai/
I hope you enjoyed the episode. The best place to connect with me is on Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirbormand (Amir Bormand). Please send me a message if you want me to cover specific topics with future guests.

Apr 28, 2022 • 19min
John Wilson - Establishing an analytics Center of Excellence
Highlights of my conversation with John:
Establishing an analytics Center of Excellence
Using a hub and spoke model as a service provider to the business
Hiring analysts with a consultative mindset
Consistently delivering solutions to build long term trust
Juggling the delivery roadmap to meet business needs
Meet: Currently Director for Analytics at Brookdale Senior Living, John is an expert in digital transformation and data strategy. He leads organizations through growth and development of business analytics practices, primarily in service-oriented industries such as healthcare. As a result, John's work has delivered ROI and winning strategies for companies in the business of people. John holds a BA from Occidental College and MBA from Vanderbilt University in Nashville, where he lives with his family.
If you have any questions for John, please feel free to reach out via:
https://twitter.com/johnawilsontn
https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnawilson/
I hope you enjoyed the episode. The best place to connect with me is on Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirbormand (Amir Bormand). Please send me a message if you want me to cover specific topics with future guests.


