The ITSPmagazine Podcast

ITSPmagazine, Sean Martin, Marco Ciappelli
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Mar 10, 2023 • 44min

Conversation With Jess Vachon @infosec_jess | Securing Bridges Podcast With Alyssa Miller | Episode 37

Guest: Jess Vachon, Chief Information Security Officer, Context Labs BV [@contextlabsbv]On Mastodon | https://infosec.exchange/@infosec_jessOn Twitter | https://twitter.com/infosec_jessOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessvachon1/________________________________Host: Alyssa MillerOn ITSPmagazine  👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/alyssa-miller________________________________SponsorsAre you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/sponsor-the-itspmagazine-podcast-network________________________________Episode DescriptionA conversation with Jess Vachon, @infosec_jess________________________________It is a podcast, yes, but you can join us as we record each episode live on Twitter, LinkedIn, Facebook, and Youtube.Live, Every Wednesday at 1 pm PDT | 4 pm EDT (USA) | The Recorded Podcast version is published a few days later.Our ability to improve the security posture of our organizations depends heavily on connecting the security function with the various aspects of the business. Join our host, Alyssa Miller, as she and her guests examine key ways to build and secure the bridges between security, product development, the executive suite, and beyond.Listen in as Alyssa sits down with senior and executive security leaders from various industries to share stories of successes and failures we experience working across business teams. Explore practical strategies for building sponsorship and gaining buy-in for security initiatives.It's time to build and secure the bridge to the business.________________________________ResourcesWatch the live stream webcast version on-demand on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllQyN9-nfFOIp711q65pTsSQFor more podcast stories from Securing Bridges Podcast With Alyssa Miller: https://www.itspmagazine.com/securing-bridges-podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Mar 9, 2023 • 39min

A Conversation About Podcasting with the Secure Your Strategy Podcast Host Chloé Messdaghi | Audio Signals Podcast With Marco Ciappelli

Guest: Chloé Messdaghi, Host, Secure Your Strategy PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/chloe-messdaghiSecure Your Strategy Podcast: https://www.itspmagazine.com/secure-your-strategy-podcastHost: Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli_____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsAre you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/sponsor-the-itspmagazine-podcast-network_____________________________Episode Introduction"Unlocking the Power of Podcasting: Chloe Messdaghi Discusses the Importance of Sharing Knowledge and Creating Conversations in Cybersecurity."In this episode of Audio Signals, host Marco Ciappelli interviews Chloe Messdaghi, a security strategist and philanthropist, about her experience with podcasting and her three podcast series on ITSPmagazine. The conversation starts with a discussion about the evolution of podcasting and how it has become a powerful tool for carrying conversations and sharing knowledge across various industries. Messdaghi highlights the importance of podcasts in promoting inclusivity and providing growth opportunities through multimedia platforms that allow different audiences to engage with the content.As the conversation continues, Ciappelli asks Messdaghi about her personal motivation for starting a podcast and how it ties into her passion for understanding the world. Messdaghi explains that podcasts provide a platform for people to share their ideas, solutions, and knowledge, enabling everyone to learn and grow together. She adds that podcasts are empowering, as they allow people to express their views and make a difference in their respective fields.Ciappelli also asks Messdaghi about the balance between content marketing and storytelling, and how to strike the right balance to promote one's business while also delivering quality content to the audience. Messdaghi emphasizes the importance of telling a good story and bringing a quality element to the content to make it more engaging and memorable. She suggests that content marketing should not just be a disguised sale, but a way to communicate with the audience and offer value to them.Overall, the episode provides valuable insights into the benefits and challenges of podcasting, as well as the value of quality content and storytelling in content marketing. Messdaghi's passion for podcasting and her commitment to improving the security industry through her podcasts shine through in the conversation. She highlights the power of podcasts in promoting inclusivity and providing growth opportunities, as well as their ability to empower people to share their knowledge and ideas.The episode is an invitation to the audience to engage with the podcasting community and share their views and solutions with others. It is a call to action for those who are passionate about improving their respective fields to use podcasts as a tool to share their ideas and make a difference. Listeners are encouraged to subscribe to the podcast and engage with the community to learn, grow, and make a positive impact on the world._____________________________Resources_____________________________For more podcast stories from Audio Signals: https://www.itspmagazine.com/audio-signalsWatch the video version on-demand on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS0aVY7qlwHxX3uiN7tqqsy Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Mar 8, 2023 • 28min

Strategies on how to Deal with CISO Satisfaction with Jessica Robinson | Secure Your Strategy Podcast With Chloé Messdaghi

Guest: Jessica Robinson, Executive Officer at PurePoint International [@purintl]On LinkedIn | https://linkedin.com/in/jessica-a-robinson-she-her-22740311On Twitter | https://twitter.com/JessRobin96Host: Chloé MessdaghiOn ITSPmagazine  👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/chloe-messdaghi______________________Episode SponsorsAre you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/sponsor-the-itspmagazine-podcast-network______________________Episode Introduction1 in 4 CISOs want to leave security. Are you one of the four? If so, this episode is for you. Figure out your next steps with shared tips to know if it's time to throw the towel or persist.______________________Resources______________________Watch the webcast version on-demand on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllTi0Pi7GCkSz6wKxawtx1axFor more podcast stories from the Secure Your Strategy Podcast With Chloé Messdaghi, visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/secure-your-strategy-podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Mar 8, 2023 • 38min

Chatting with a Hacker | A Conversation With Matt Brown | Tech Done Different Podcast With Ted Harrington and Ben Schmerler

Guest: Matt Brown, Senior Security Analyst at ISE [@ISEsecurity]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattbrwn/________________________________Hosts:Ben SchmerlerOn ITSPmagazine  👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/ben-schmerlerTed HarringtonOn ITSPmagazine  👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/ted-harrington________________________________This Episode’s Sponsors Are you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/sponsor-the-itspmagazine-podcast-network________________________________Episode DescriptionMatt Brown literally makes a living hacking things. Join Ted and Ben in a fun interview with a hacker talking about all things hacking.You’ll learn:What common assumption leads to many security failuresHow both businesses and consumers can think about better securing their solutionsWhat Build a Bear looks like in the eyes of a hacker________________________________For more podcast stories from Tech Done Different With Ted Harrington: https://www.itspmagazine.com/tech-done-different-podcastWatch the webcast version on-demand on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllTQ79pdnWWvCuhWjyw9WGwi Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Mar 8, 2023 • 50min

National Guard as a Cyber Defense Organization | A Conversation With Dr. Hunter LaCroix and Marco Ciappelli | Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast With Sean Martin

Guests: Dr. Hunter LaCroix, Adjunct Professor, University of Maryland Global Campus [@umdglobalcampus] and EMT Firefighter Rescue Technician Hazmat Specialist, State of Maryland [@StateMaryland]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/hunter-l-035498234/Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli____________________________Host: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/sean-martin____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsImperva | https://itspm.ag/imperva277117988Pentera | https://itspm.ag/penteri67a___________________________Episode NotesIn this episode of the Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast, Sean Martin is joined by Dr. Hunter LaCroix and Marco Ciappelli to discuss the intersection of emergency management and cybersecurity. Dr. LaCroix argues that there is a significant disconnect between the two areas, with emergency management professionals not considering cyber attacks as a true area of disaster. This is despite increasing cybercriminal activity targeting local and state governments and their supporting critical infrastructure. The conversation points out that there is a need for a cyber capability that develops around the physical disaster response framework, similar to the response we often see when a natural disaster occurs.States such as Ohio and California have implemented cybersecurity volunteer reserves and cybersecurity watch centers, respectively. The National Guard units also assist local entities during cyber incidents and play a vital role in emergency management relationships. Pre-existing relationships with the National Guard can be leveraged and building public-private partnerships is critical in cybersecurity incident response. The private sector and cybersecurity professionals trust the National Guard to be a leader in local and state cybersecurity incident response. Still, there is a widespread problem at the local and state level of operations and a lack of broader implementation and utilization of these services.Dr. LaCroix has written about this topic, with a book being published shortly. You can read the abstract for the book below.Book AbstractCybersecurity is a national priority for the Homeland Security enterprise. Yet, despite a prioritization at the federal level, municipal and state governments have struggled to incorporate the National Guard in cyber incident response. Cyber incidents strain municipalities and states, which have spent significant resources to mitigate cyber threats. The glaring gap in the National Guard’s role in municipal and state cyber incident response warrants two key questions as to why the National Guard isn’t more readily used. “Is it cost prohibitive to use National Guard assets when compared to private entities?” Or “is there an underlying sociological disconnect regarding the National Guard’s role in cyber disaster when compared to physical disasters.”? Both questions and the National Guard’s role have largely been under-examined by Homeland Security professionals and academia requires additional examination.This dissertation seeks to study via a sequential mixed method approach answers to both questions. First, using a quantitive analysis method examining case studies this study seeks to examine if “it is less expensive for municipal and state governments to use the National Guard instead of private sector assistance for cyber incident responses?" Sequentially if it is less expensive, this dissertation seeks to utilize a survey-based questionnaire from associations of National Guard and Emergency response personal to answer, “is there and underlying sociological misperceptions that contribute to National Guard’s underutilization for cyber disasters when compared to their role in traditional disaster response?” This study achieved complimenting results: with quantitative testing affirming the initial hypothesis regarding the National Guard’s cost effectiveness versus private sector entities in case studies examined. This led to qualitative studies using surveys to examine possible misperceptions of the National Guard’s role in cyber incident response for municipal and state level operations. Surveys revealed both a lack of understanding and disconnect between the National Guard’s role in cyber incident response when compared it is normal role in physical disasters. This research creates opportunity and future growth for homeland Security professionals to prioritize the understanding and growing role of the National Guard for public and private enterprise at the municipal and state level of cyber incident response.____________________________ResourcesBook: Coming (Date: TBD)____________________________To see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcastWatch the webcast version on-demand on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYqAre you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/sponsor-the-itspmagazine-podcast-network Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Mar 8, 2023 • 36min

Exploring the Past, Present, and Future of Professional Video Gamers | A Conversation With Jonathan Shroyer | Audio Signals Podcast With Marco Ciappelli

Guest: Jonathan Shroyer, Chief CX Innovation Officer - Arise Virtual Solutions [@AriseVSInc]On Twitter | https://twitter.com/ChiefCXOfficerOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/chiefcxofficer/On TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@chiefcxofficerOn YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrDIVe8X1P4g2V-mQum3t7g_____________________________Hosts:Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli_____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsAre you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/sponsor-the-itspmagazine-podcast-network_____________________________Episode IntroductionIn this episode of Audio Signals, host Marco Ciappelli and guest Jonathan Shroyer take a deep dive into the world of professional video gaming, discussing its history, the psychology behind it, the economy surrounding it, and its future in the metaverse. From humble beginnings in the 1950s to today's multimillion-dollar sponsorships and massive global audiences, the evolution of video gaming as a sport and entertainment phenomenon is a fascinating topic that is sure to captivate listeners.Welcome to another episode of Audio Signals where we explore the past, present, and future of professional video gamers. In this episode, we delve into the psychology, economy, and entertainment side of the video gaming industry. Our guest for the day is Jonathan Shroyer, the Chief CX Innovation Officer at Arise, who runs the gaming consulting verticals. As we begin the podcast, we take a stroll down memory lane and look at how video games evolved over the years, beginning from the first multiplayer game in 1958 called "Tennis for Two" to the emergence of consoles like Nintendo, Sega, and PlayStation in the 90s. However, the pivotal point that made video gaming more accessible was the development of the internet and the ability to connect with other players from different parts of the world. As the technology improved, video games went from local competitions to international gaming competitions with millions of people streaming on platforms like Twitch to watch professional gamers compete.Jonathan explains that gamers want to be the best in the world, and the virtual identity that comes with it is one of the reasons why they play video games. With the advent of the Creator economy, gamers can now monetize their skills by becoming influencers or creators on platforms like Twitch, YouTube, and TikTok. This has turned gaming into an economic phenomenon, with sponsors and fans watching professional gamers play video games in packed arenas. The audience for video gaming is massive, with over 3.5 billion people globally interested in playing video games, and the top 5 to 10% of players spending 70-80% of the video game revenue worldwide.As we move towards the metaverse, Jonathan explains that the opportunities for gamers and creators to monetize their skills will only increase. The metaverse, which had a valuation of 59 billion in 2021, is projected to be worth 1.6 trillion by 2033, and gaming, blockchain, eSports, and creators will play a significant role in this growth.The evolution of video games has been remarkable, and technology has played a vital role in its growth. With the rise of the Creator economy, gaming has turned into an economic phenomenon, and the future looks bright for gamers and creators. Stay tuned for more exciting discussions on Audio Signals._____________________________Resources_____________________________For more podcast stories from Audio Signals: https://www.itspmagazine.com/audio-signalsWatch the webcast version on-demand on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS0aVY7qlwHxX3uiN7tqqsyAre you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/sponsor-the-itspmagazine-podcast-network Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Mar 4, 2023 • 20min

Where Are All the Aliens? The Berserker Hypothesis | Stories From Space Podcast With Matthew S Williams

Host | Matthew S WilliamsOn ITSPmagazine  👉 https://itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/matthew-s-williams______________________This Episode’s SponsorsAre you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/sponsor-the-itspmagazine-podcast-network______________________Episode DescriptionCould it be that the reason humanity has found no evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence is that it is being wiped out? This is the argument of the Berserker Hypothesis, a theory popularized by science fiction but based on hard science.______________________Resources"The Great Silence - the Controversy Concerning Extraterrestrial Intelligent Life" -David Brin, 1983: https://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu//full/1983QJRAS..24..283B/0000283.000.htmlBeyond “Fermi’s Paradox” VI: What is the Berserker Hypothesis? -Matt Williams, Universe Today (Aug. 22, 2020): https://www.universetoday.com/147396/beyond-fermis-paradox-vi-the-berserker-hypothesis/______________________For more podcast Stories from Space with Matthew S Williams, visit: https://itspmagazine.com/stories-from-space-podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Mar 4, 2023 • 33min

Book | Navigate to the Lighthouse: A Silicon Valley Guide to Executing Global Deals | A Conversation With Author, Kurt Davis | Audio Signals Podcast With Marco Ciappelli

Guest: Kurt Davis, Investor, Entrepreneur, and AuthorOn Twitter | https://twitter.com/KurtDavisNewOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/kurtdavis1/_____________________________Hosts:Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli_____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsAre you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/sponsor-the-itspmagazine-podcast-network_____________________________Episode Introduction"This Podcast features guest Kurt Davis, a seasoned executive with experience in corporate venture capital and business development for tech startups. Kurt shares his journey of finding his lighthouse deal and the importance of community building and leadership."The Audio Signal Podcast's latest episode features host Marco Ciappelli and guest Kurt Davis, a global executive with a diverse background in corporate venture capital and business development for technology startups. Kurt shares his story, which includes spending the first 20 years of his career in Silicon Valley and Asia, working with companies such as Apple, Microsoft, Spotify, and Sony.In 2017, Kurt took a break from his career and traveled to Africa, where he volunteered at various emerging business accelerators and non-profits. His experience in Africa inspired him to write his second book, Finding Soul, From Silicon Valley to Africa: A Personal Journey Through Twenty Countries in Africa, which details his travels and the lessons he learned.Kurt's newest book, Navigate to the Lighthouse: A Silicon Valley Guide to Executing Global Deals, draws on his experience in the startup world to offer guidance to entrepreneurs who are looking to find their "lighthouse" deal. The lighthouse deal is a big deal that can propel a startup to new heights and open up new opportunities. Kurt's book provides insights into how entrepreneurs can effectively use strategic business development to pursue trajectory-changing deals and overcome obstacles that may have seemed insurmountable.During the episode, Kurt shares his insights on leadership, entrepreneurship, and community building. He talks about how his time in Africa showed him the importance of entrepreneurship as a way to bring autonomy and hope to communities. Kurt also emphasizes the importance of being a leader in one's community and doing what one thinks is the right thing.Kurt's journey of finding his lighthouse deal and his insights into business development offers valuable lessons for entrepreneurs and anyone looking to make a change in their career or personal life. His perspective on leadership and community building highlights the importance of using one's skills and resources to help others and make a positive impact.The Audio Signal Podcast provides a platform for conversations that explore a wide range of topics, from technology to culture, leadership, and personal growth. Host Marco Ciappelli facilitates thought-provoking discussions with guests from diverse backgrounds and experiences.Listeners are invited to tune in to this episode to hear more about Kurt's journey and insights, as well as to explore previous episodes of the Audio Signal Podcast. The podcast offers a wealth of information and inspiration for anyone interested in personal and professional development. Don't miss out on this opportunity to learn and grow with the Audio Signal Podcast._____________________________ResourcesNavigate to the Lighthouse: A Silicon Valley Guide to Executing Global Deals (new book): https://kdalive.com/navigate-to-the-lighthouse/Finding Soul: From Silicon Valley to Africa: https://kdalive.com/finding-soul/Website: https://kdalive.com/technology-entrepreneur/_____________________________For more podcast stories from Audio Signals: https://www.itspmagazine.com/audio-signalsWatch the webcast version on-demand on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS0aVY7qlwHxX3uiN7tqqsyAre you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/sponsor-the-itspmagazine-podcast-network Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Mar 3, 2023 • 35min

A Conversation with Former Aircraft Pentester Christian Espinosa | The Hacker Factory Podcast With Phillip Wylie

Guest: Christian Espinosa, CEO at Blue Goat Cyber [@bluegoatcyber]On Twitter | https://twitter.com/IronracerOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/christianespinosa/Host: Phillip WylieOn ITSPmagazine  👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/phillip-wylie______________________Episode SponsorsAre you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/sponsor-the-itspmagazine-podcast-network______________________Episode IntroductionChristian Espinosa discusses his background in cybersecurity, including experience in Air Force, as a defense contractor, airplane pentester, and founder of 2 cybersecurity firms. He stresses the significance of exploring various areas in the field, such as auditing and digital forensics. Espinosa also shares his thoughts on the value of practical certifications and self-education compared to traditional degrees.______________________Resources ______________________For more podcast stories from The Hacker Factory with Phillip Wylie, visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/the-hacker-factory-podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Mar 2, 2023 • 50min

Overcoming the 5 Areas Where CISOs Tend to Struggle | Discussing the Biggest Mistakes CISOs are Making | A Crucial Conversation With Matthew Rosenquist

Community Member Contributor: Matthew Rosenquist, CISO at Eclipz.ioOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewrosenquist/On Twitter | https://twitter.com/Matt_RosenquistOn Medium | https://matthew-rosenquist.medium.com/HostsSean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/sean-martinMarco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli______________________Episode DescriptionOrganizations are asking a lot of their CISOs—from protecting internal digital assets to verifying the security postures of customers and partners, managing cyber insurance and compliance requirements, and acting fast anytime a security issue arises (real or otherwise). Taking on this challenge is made more difficult by the five areas in which CISOs tend to struggle—leadership, strategic thinking, optimizing for threats, promoting teamwork, and maximizing value. In this post from the Blue Lava Community, Matthew Rosenquist, the CISO at Eclipz.io, examines these five areas and presents strategies CISOs can apply to overcome the common mistakes made to instead provide cybersecurity value that can be measured in business terms at the C-suite table.LinkedIn Post: Five Biggest Mistakes of Cybersecurity Programs______________________For more podcasts from Crucial Conversations with The Blue Lava Community, visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/crucial-conversations-podcastTo access the full collection of Blue Lava Community resources, visit: https://itspm.ag/blclog22To learn more about Blue Lava, visit: https://itspm.ag/blue-lava-w2qs______________________Are you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/sponsor-the-itspmagazine-podcast-network Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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