

The ITSPmagazine Podcast
ITSPmagazine, Sean Martin, Marco Ciappelli
Founded in 2015, ITSPmagazine began as a vision for a publication positioned at the critical intersection of technology, cybersecurity, and society. What started as a written publication has evolved into a comprehensive repository for all their content—podcasts, articles, event coverage, interviews, videos, panels, and everything they create.
This is where Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli talk about cybersecurity, technology, society, music, storytelling, branding, conference coverage, and whatever else catches their attention. Over a decade of conversations exploring how these worlds collide, influence each other, and shape the human experience.
This is where you'll find it all.
This is where Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli talk about cybersecurity, technology, society, music, storytelling, branding, conference coverage, and whatever else catches their attention. Over a decade of conversations exploring how these worlds collide, influence each other, and shape the human experience.
This is where you'll find it all.
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May 25, 2023 • 1h 6min
Bridging the Gap Between Skills and Experience | A Conversation with Dillon Breytenbach | Hacking Your Potential Podcast with Frankie Thomas
Guest: Dillon Breytenbach, Owner of NixLyn DevOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/dillon-breytenbach-4290b6231/Host: Frankie ThomasOn ITSPmagazine 👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/frankie-thomas______________________Episode SponsorsAre you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/sponsor-the-itspmagazine-podcast-network______________________Episode IntroductionIn this episode, I will be talking to Dillion about his start-up company Nixlyn and the company's focus on helping people with valuable skills gain the necessary experience they need.Dillon is a self-taught Python developer who has dedicated his talents to creating command-line programs and tools that empower others in the tech world. With a passion for bridging the gap between skills and experience, Dillon has embarked on an ambitious project called Nixlyn.Nixlyn is designed to offer individuals the chance to work on projects together, building their skills in a team environment while gaining the necessary experience to advance in their careers.______________________ResourcesNixlyn Github: https://github.com/NixLyn______________________For more podcast stories from Hacking Your Potential Podcast with Frankie Thomas, visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/hacking-your-potential-podcastWatch the webcast version on-demand on YouTube: (coming soon) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

May 23, 2023 • 28min
Infosecurity Europe 2023 Keynote Sneak Peek | Deciphering Cybersecurity Readiness: A Global Perspective | ITSPmagazine Event Coverage: Infosecurity Europe 2023, London, England | A Conversation with Ian Hill
Guest: Ian Hill, Director of Information and Cyber Security at Upp Corporation [@getonupp]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/ian-hill-95123897/____________________________Hosts:Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/sean-martinMarco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsPentera | https://itspm.ag/penteri67a✨ ➤ Sponsorship Signup Is Now Open — And Yes, Space Is Limited!____________________________Episode NotesIn this Chats on the Road to Infosecurity Europe Conference podcast episode, Ian Hill, a cybersecurity veteran with 25 years in the field, and current Director of Information and Cybersecurity at Upp Corporation, shares his knowledge and experiences. He provides valuable insights into compliance, readiness, and the global challenges that affect cybersecurity.A main focus is the interplay between compliance and security. Hill emphasizes the importance of prioritizing a robust security strategy that organically leads to compliance, rather than letting compliance requirements dictate security measures. This perspective offers a redefined take on building an effective cybersecurity framework.The conversation also explores the concept of readiness in cybersecurity. In a domain where technology continually outpaces regulations, understanding what constitutes readiness is not straightforward. However, the discussion highlights its importance in preparing organizations to respond to evolving threats.The conversation pivots to get a view of global cybersecurity, discussing the cross-border challenges that organizations face in our interconnected world. Hill underscores the implications of navigating diverse laws, cultural attitudes, and standards in a global company, and points to an increasing need for international cooperation to manage the complex, ever-changing threat landscape.Have a listen. Enjoy. And be sure to catch Ian's keynote presentation and panel discussion during the conference.____________________________ResourcesLearn more, explore the programme, and register for Infosecurity Europe: https://itspm.ag/iseu23Be sure to tune in to all of our Infosecurity Europe 2023 conference coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/infosecurity-europe-2023-infosec-london-cybersecurity-event-coverageCatch the full Infosecurity Europe 2023 YouTube playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllTOeLEfCLJlToZIoJtNJB6B____________________________If you are a cybersecurity vendor with a story to share, you can book your pre-event video podcast briefing here (https://itspm.ag/iseu23tsv) and your on-location audio podcast briefing here (https://itspm.ag/iseu23tsp).Explore the full conference coverage sponsorship bundle here: https://itspm.ag/iseu23bndlFor more ITSPmagazine advertising and sponsorship opportunities:👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/advertise-on-itspmagazine-podcastTo see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

May 22, 2023 • 42min
A Conversation With Richard White, Founder & CEO at Fathom | The Founder Pack Podcast With Brendon Rod
Guest: Richard White, Founder & CEO at Fathom [@FathomDotVideo]On Twitter | https://twitter.com/rrwhiteOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/rrwhite/Host: Brendon RodOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/brendon-rod____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsAre you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/sponsor-the-itspmagazine-podcast-network____________________________Episode Introduction“...there's generally this mindset of like launch early. And we actually had this contrarian opinion of no, I think we should launch late.…”Richard White is founder and CEO of Fathom.video, a free app that records, transcribes & highlights your calls so you can focus on the conversation instead of taking notes.Prior to Fathom, Richard founded UserVoice, one of the leading platforms used by startups to the Fortune 500 for managing customer feedback and making strategic product decisions.Richard also previously worked on Kiko, a company in the first batch of Y-Combinator, with Justin Kan and Emmett Shear who subsequently went on to found Twitch.Key topics:1. Richard's contrarian opinions around go-to-market2. It's not a one size fits all when setting financial milestones and metrics3. Why playbooks are outdated4. Balancing strategy and tactics5. How to better activate word of mouth____________________________Resources____________________________To see and hear more The Founder Pack Podcast content on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/the-founder-pack-podcastTo watch The Founder Pack Podcast Video series, visit:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllQFcKt05rK-FF216DhbHLqMJoin The FOUNDER Pack communityCommunity: www.thefounderpack.comNewsletter sign-up: https://brendonrod.substack.com/We’re stronger together. Keep connected with The Founder Pack podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher and Google Podcast. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

May 21, 2023 • 23min
Going Nuclear! The Promise of Nuclear Propulsion | Stories From Space Podcast With Matthew S Williams
Host | Matthew S WilliamsOn ITSPmagazine 👉 https://itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/matthew-s-williams______________________This Episode’s SponsorsAre you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/sponsor-the-itspmagazine-podcast-network______________________Episode DescriptionScientists have been researching nuclear propulsion since the early Space Age. But we may finally be reaching the point where it may be realized! The technology could enable rapid transits to Mars, the Asteroid Belt, and beyond!______________________ResourcesAerojet Rocketdyne - Nuclear Propulsion: https://www.rocket.com/space/nuclear-propulsion______________________For more podcast Stories from Space with Matthew S Williams, visit: https://itspmagazine.com/stories-from-space-podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

May 20, 2023 • 40min
Book | Are You a Bird Like Me? | A Conversation about inspiring and empowering kids with children and young adult fiction, with author Noel Foy | Audio Signals Podcast With Marco Ciappelli
Guest: Noel Foy, Founder at Neuro Noel Consulting [@NeuroNoel]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/noel-foy-73a5ab45/On Twitter | https://twitter.com/NeuroNoelOn Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/neuronoel/?hl=enOn YouTube |https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6wQxj0vYaxxh9MxkjxinhQ_____________________________Host: Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli_____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsAre you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/sponsor-the-itspmagazine-podcast-network_____________________________Episode IntroductionIn this exciting episode of the Audio Signals Podcast, hosted by Marco Ciappelli, we step outside the tech world and delve into the creative realm of storytelling, child psychology, and the magic of children's literature. Today, Marco engages in a rich dialogue with the multi-talented children's author, neuroeducation consultant, and anxiety coach Noel Foy.Throughout this enlightening conversation, Noel unravels the intent behind her fascinating stories for children and how they hold a deeper purpose beyond mere entertainment. This podcast will make you reconsider the role of storytelling, its historical roots, and its indispensable value in shaping our perceptions.An anxiety coach and a mother herself, Noel expertly brings her wealth of knowledge into the narrative, particularly about the concept of executive function. She shares her unique insights on the necessity of cultivating cognitive, social, and emotional skills in children, which inevitably stimulates the listener's curiosity and provokes thought.Marco then delves into Noel's latest book, "Are You a Bird Like Me?" to explore the impact of visuals on the learning process. In a compelling twist, this episode also showcases the collaborative dynamics between an author and an illustrator, a symbiotic relationship that breathes life into a narrative.Perhaps one of the most captivating parts of the conversation revolves around the book's core theme, focusing on acceptance, diversity, and the power of collaboration. These topics, crucial for children, surprisingly resonate with adults, too, manifesting the universal appeal of children's literature.As they dive deeper into the art of storytelling and its educational implications, the discussion also sheds light on an interesting concept - the anxiety inherent in uncertainty, which is as relevant to adults as it is to children. Furthermore, Noel's shared experiences about children's responses to adversity prompt reflection on the importance of teaching resilience.So tune in to this thought-provoking episode of the Audio Signals Podcast with Marco Ciappelli and Noel Foy as they explore the transformative power of stories and the lessons they carry for all ages. You're encouraged to think, share, and subscribe to the podcast. Let's engage in this intriguing conversation together! About the BookMeet Sky, a hatchling who thinks her nest is the whole entire world—until she falls out of it!As Sky sets out to find her parents, she makes unexpected friendships and discovers a fascinating world beyond her nest.Join Sky and her new friends as they learn valuable lessons about courage, teamwork, diversity, perseverance and the amazing things that can happen by working together. This is a story that inspires kids and adults to believe in themselves and embrace the idea that differences aren’t dividers but ways to contribute toward a common goal._____________________________ResourcesAre You a Bird Like Me? (Book): https://www.neuronoel.com/are-you-a-bird-like-me/ABC Worry Free (Book): https://www.neuronoel.com/abc-worry-free/_____________________________For more podcast stories from Audio Signals: https://www.itspmagazine.com/audio-signalsWatch the video version on-demand on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS0aVY7qlwHxX3uiN7tqqsyAre you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/sponsor-the-itspmagazine-podcast-network Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

May 20, 2023 • 41min
Thinking About Our Digital Existence: An Exploration of Cybersecurity, Social Media, and Privacy | A Conversation with Gary Guseinov | Redefining Society Podcast with Marco Ciappelli
Guest: Gary Guseinov, CEO at RealDefense and iolo [@iolo_tech]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/garyguseinov/_____________________________Host: Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli_____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsBlackCloak 👉 https://itspm.ag/itspbcwebBugcrowd 👉 https://itspm.ag/itspbgcwebDevo 👉 https://itspm.ag/itspdvweb_____________________________Episode IntroductionWelcome to an exciting episode of Redefining Society, hosted by the always intriguing Marco Ciappelli. Today, we dive deep into the entwined world of technology, privacy, and cybersecurity, exploring how our relationship with technology has evolved over the years and how it continues to shape our daily lives. Our guest is industry veteran Gary Guseinov, who brings decades of expertise and unique insights to the table.From social media to artificial intelligence, today's episode explores the omnipresence of connected devices and the ever-changing landscape of our digital existence. With both Gary and Marco holding candid discussions on topics like digital fingerprinting and the privacy grey area, this episode challenges you to examine your relationship with the technology you use every day.As we take a look back at how things have changed over the past years, we also delve into the future, questioning the course of cybersecurity and privacy. Together, Marco and Gary challenge listeners to think about their role as consumers and their understanding of technology's intersection with daily life. They also discuss the ethical implications of how our data is collected and used, the ambiguity surrounding privacy, and our ability to control it.Moreover, we delve into the realm of cybersecurity and its relationship with privacy, which as Gary states, is more unpredictable, unknown, and undefined. The pair also share their perspectives on the ethics of media buying, the ever-evolving laws, and how consumers can protect themselves from potential threats.Today's episode of Redefining Society is not only a deep dive into the fascinating world of technology and privacy but also an essential education for every listener navigating this digital age. You'll gain a fresh perspective on the decisions you make online and a newfound appreciation for the subtle intricacies of the digital world.We encourage you to share this episode with your colleagues, family, and friends, sparking more conversations about our digital society. We invite you to step into the future with us, question your relationship with technology, and perhaps redefine it in the process.Don't forget to subscribe to Redefining Society, your go-to podcast for understanding the ever-changing landscape of our digital society. Because the only constant in this world is change, and being equipped with knowledge is the best way to navigate it. So, let's redefine society together. _____________________________Resources ____________________________To see and hear more Redefining Society stories on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-society-podcastWatch the webcast version on-demand on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllTUoWMGGQHlGVZA575VtGr9Are you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/advertise-on-itspmagazine-podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

May 19, 2023 • 31min
Exploring the Cybersecurity Landscape: Hands-on Experience, Emerging Threats, and Diverse Career Paths | A Conversation with Nader Zaveri | The Hacker Factory Podcast With Phillip Wylie
Guest: Nader Zaveri, Senior Manager at Incident Response & Remediation at Mandiant [@Mandiant]On Twitter | https://twitter.com/NaderZaveriOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/naderzaveri/Host: Phillip WylieOn ITSPmagazine 👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/phillip-wylie______________________Episode SponsorsAre you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/sponsor-the-itspmagazine-podcast-network______________________Episode IntroductionIn the conversation with Nader Zaveri, he discusses various aspects of cybersecurity, emerging threats, and career advice for those looking to enter the field.Starting with their experiences, they discussed the importance of curiosity and self-learning in cybersecurity, with Zaveri mentioning his early interest in technology and hacking, which led to a career in the field. They also touched upon the importance of certifications like CISSP and CEH, and the role of practical, hands-on experience.Discussing emerging threats, they highlighted the importance of understanding business logic attacks, which can often bypass traditional security measures. Also discussed was the introduction of AI and machine learning in cybersecurity.______________________Resources______________________For more podcast stories from The Hacker Factory with Phillip Wylie, visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/the-hacker-factory-podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

May 17, 2023 • 37min
Strategies for Recruiting and Retaining Amazing People on your Security Team with Christophe Foulon | Secure Your Strategy Podcast With Chloé Messdaghi
Guest: Christophe Foulon, Strategic Cybersecurity Leader/Coach at Breaking Into Cybersecurity [@BreakintoCyber]On Twitter | https://twitter.com/chris_foulonOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/christophefoulon/On YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/c/BreakingIntoCybersecurityHost: Chloé MessdaghiOn ITSPmagazine 👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/chloe-messdaghi______________________Episode SponsorsAre you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/sponsor-the-itspmagazine-podcast-network______________________Episode IntroductionIn this podcast episode, the focus is on whether there is a real skills shortage in the job market or if it's actually a problem with recruiting and retaining employees. The discussion dives into the factors that contribute to this issue and analyzes possible solutions to address the challenges faced by organizations.______________________ResourcesWCHI Website: https://www.wholecyberhumaninitiative.org/Breaking Into Cybersecurity Website: https://www.cpf-coaching.com______________________Watch the webcast version on-demand on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllTi0Pi7GCkSz6wKxawtx1axFor more podcast stories from the Secure Your Strategy Podcast With Chloé Messdaghi, visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/secure-your-strategy-podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

May 16, 2023 • 31min
What to Expect At Infosecurity Europe Conference 2023 | ITSPmagazine Event Coverage: Infosecurity Europe 2023, London, England | A Conversation with Nicole Mills and Julia Clarke
GuestsNicole Mills, Exhibition Director at Infosecurity Europe [@Infosecurity]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolemmills/Julia Clarke, Group Marketing Manager at RX [@RXGlobal_]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/julia-clarke-bab72a222/____________________________Hosts:Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/sean-martinMarco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsPentera | https://itspm.ag/penteri67a✨ ➤ Sponsorship Signup Is Now Open — And Yes, Space Is Limited!____________________________Episode NotesWe are thrilled to kick off our event coverage with our traditional first Chats On The Road to Infosecurity Europe 2023 in London, chatting with our good friends as they give us the latest and greatest for what we can expect at this year's event.Listen in to hear more about the theme, keynotes, stages, sessions, workshops, speakers, expo hall, community events, and so much more. And, yes, we decided to capture this one on video too, so be sure to give that a watch.Tune in and be sure to join us for all of our coverage coming to you before, from, and after Infosecurity Europe 2023!____________________________ResourcesLearn more, explore the programme, and register for Infosecurity Europe: https://itspm.ag/iseu23Be sure to tune in to all of our Infosecurity Europe 2023 conference coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/infosecurity-europe-2023-infosec-london-cybersecurity-event-coverageCatch the full Infosecurity Europe 2023 YouTube playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllTOeLEfCLJlToZIoJtNJB6B____________________________If you are a cybersecurity vendor with a story to share, you can book your pre-event video podcast briefing here (https://itspm.ag/iseu23tsv) and your on-location audio podcast briefing here (https://itspm.ag/iseu23tsp).Explore the full conference coverage sponsorship bundle here: https://itspm.ag/iseu23bndlFor more ITSPmagazine advertising and sponsorship opportunities:👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/advertise-on-itspmagazine-podcastTo see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

May 16, 2023 • 24min
An RSA Conference USA 2023 Recap | ITSPmagazine Event Coverage: RSAC 2023 San Francisco, USA | A Conversation with Linda Gray Martin and Cecilia Murtagh Marinier
GuestsLinda Gray Martin, Vice President at RSA Conference [@RSAConference]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/linda-gray-martin-223708/On Twitter | https://twitter.com/LindaJaneGrayCecilia Murtagh Marinier, Cybersecurity Advisor - Strategy, Innovation & Scholars at RSA Conference [@RSAConference]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/cecilia-murtagh-marinier-14967/On Twitter | https://twitter.com/CMarinier____________________________Host:Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsBlackCloak | https://itspm.ag/itspbcwebBrinqa | https://itspm.ag/brinqa-pmdpSandboxAQ | https://itspm.ag/sandboxaq-j2en____________________________Episode NotesWe had an amazing conference and are thrilled to close out our Chats On The Road to (from) RSA Conference 2023 with a recap chat with our good friends as they give us the latest and greatest for what took place at this year's event.Be sure to tune in to all of our RSA Conference 2023 USA coverage from San Francisco to hear stories from the keynotes, sessions, speakers, expo hall, community events, and so much more. And, yes, we decided to capture a lot of our coverage on video too, so be sure to check out the RSA Conference 2023 playlist on YouTube as well.____________________________ResourcesLearn more, explore the agenda, and register for RSA Conference: https://itspm.ag/rsa-cordbw____________________________For more RSAC Conference Coverage podcast and video episodes visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/rsa-conference-usa-2023-rsac-san-francisco-usa-cybersecurity-event-coverageAre you interested in telling your story in connection with RSA Conference by sponsoring our coverage?👉 https://itspm.ag/rsac23spAre you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/podcast-series-sponsorshipsTo see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


