

How to Build a Sustainable Music Career and Collect All Revenue Streams
Emily White
How to Build a Sustainable Music Career and Collect All Revenue Streams is the podcast version of Emily White's #1 Amazon best-selling book.
White brings each chapter of the book to life with handpicked world-class guests including Bon Iver's Justin Vernon, Imogen Heap, Kam Franklin of The Suffers, Warped Tour Founder Kevin Lyman, legendary attorney Donald S. Passman, Patrick Sansone of Wilco, and more.
Host, Author, and Creator Emily White has been the forefront of the modern music industry throughout her career. She is a Partner at Collective Entertainment and Founder of #iVoted Festivals.
White brings each chapter of the book to life with handpicked world-class guests including Bon Iver's Justin Vernon, Imogen Heap, Kam Franklin of The Suffers, Warped Tour Founder Kevin Lyman, legendary attorney Donald S. Passman, Patrick Sansone of Wilco, and more.
Host, Author, and Creator Emily White has been the forefront of the modern music industry throughout her career. She is a Partner at Collective Entertainment and Founder of #iVoted Festivals.
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Aug 3, 2021 • 2h 25min
E18: Merch Recon w/ Artist Julia Nunes
Artist, Musician, Songwriter, and Entrepreneur Julia Nunes defines building a sustainable music career in many ways. One of which is her understanding of the importance of "merch," or merchandise, and the powerful connection it can create with fans.
This episode shares best practices on what has worked for Julia on merch at shows, online, and beyond. Host Emily White also interviews Julia on her career through the lens of the book this podcast is based on.
Follow Julia on Instagram @JuliaNunesMusic
Happy listening!
Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter
Book this podcast was based on (Second Edition): 10% off w/ code PODCAST
Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList
CREDITS:
Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White
Engineer: Nathan Cain
Music: Matthew Wang
Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com
Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh

Jul 26, 2021 • 1h 4min
E17: Your Live Strategy & Efficient Touring Part Three - Warped Tour Founder Kevin Lyman
Kevin Lyman is The G.O.A.T. (greatest of all time) to host Emily White. Kevin is founder of The Vans' Warped Tour and is currently a professor at The University of Southern California. There are many big “names” in the music industry. But Emily has been fortunate to get to know Kevin and all that he does to mentor the next generation of musicians and those who support them. As well as his tireless passion to support non-profits both in the music space and beyond.
In this episode Kevin and Emily discuss the state of the live touring and webcasting industry, as well as where it is headed.
Happy Listening!
Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter
Book this podcast was based on (Second Edition): 10% off w/ code PODCAST
Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList
CREDITS:
Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White
Engineer: Nathan Cain
Music: Matthew Wang
Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com
Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh

Jul 19, 2021 • 47min
E16: Your Live Strategy & Efficient Touring Part Two - Live Streaming w/ Mandolin CEO Mary Kay Huse
Live streaming was a technology that existed prior to the pandemic. However, the space has since exploded with investment, giving artists new options and tools to connect with their fans. With in-person shows now returning, how can these new innovations create a hybrid model to reach even more fans who might not be able to attend traditional concerts? We explore this and more with Mary Kay Huse, the visionary Co-Founder and CEO of Mandolin, which is one of the top webcasting companies leading the charge.
Happy Listening!
Artist Growth is a platform that simplifies music industry operations by offering tools for event planning, financial tracking, tour coordination, and project management. It integrates various aspects of business management into a centralized system, enhancing collaboration and efficiency for artists, managers, record labels, and production teams.
Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter
Book this podcast was based on (Second Edition): 10% off w/ code PODCAST
Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList
CREDITS:
Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White
Engineer: Nathan Cain
Music: Matthew Wang
Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com
Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh

Jul 11, 2021 • 1h 25min
E15: Your Live Strategy & Efficient Touring w/ CAA's Akin Aliu
Guest Akin Aliu, a booking agent at CAA, discusses booking shows, maximizing live career aspects, and efficient touring strategies. Topics include artist growth platform tools, strategies for success, innovative tour strategies, insurance coverage insights, show promotion strategies, the evolution of virtual events, and the significance of team members in the modern music industry.

Jul 4, 2021 • 1h 32min
E14: How to Market With or Without a Budget w/ Melissa Garcia
Melissa Garcia is a Founding Partner at Collective Entertainment and Host Emily White’s business partner. Melissa also serves as the Chief Marketing Officer of #iVoted Festival.
In this episode Melissa and Emily cover FOMO or “fear of missing out” in the age of Instagram and what to do about it, how to announce your release effectively, social media best practices, maximizing Spotify and Pandora, as well as modern PR whether you have a budget or not. Additionally Melissa and Emily break down radio promotion in the United States, music videos in the modern era and discuss brand partnerships.
Here we go!
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Follow Melissa Garcia on Instagram and Twitter.
Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter
Book this podcast was based on (Second Edition): 10% off w/ code PODCAST
Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList
CREDITS:
Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White
Engineer: Nathan Cain
Music: Matthew Wang
Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com
Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh

Jun 27, 2021 • 1h 5min
E13: Setting Up Your Release and Distribution Plan - Part 3 w/ Symphonic GM Nick Gordon
Part three of our distribution episodes explores digital distribution companies such as The Orchard, Redeye, and of course Symphonic which today’s guest Nick Gordon is the GM of in New York City. He additionally serves as Symphonic’s Chief Client Officer. Today we’re going to explore the inner workings of this form of distribution as well as the physical distribution of CD’s and vinyl. Host Emily White also explains what SoundExchange is and why now is the time to sign up if you haven’t already.
Happy listening!
Artist Growth is a platform that simplifies music industry operations by offering tools for event planning, financial tracking, tour coordination, and project management. It integrates various aspects of business management into a centralized system, enhancing collaboration and efficiency for artists, managers, record labels, and production teams.
Book this podcast was based on (Second Edition): 10% off w/ code PODCAST
Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList
CREDITS:
Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White
Engineer: Nathan Cain
Music: Matthew Wang
Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com
Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh

Jun 20, 2021 • 2h 50min
E12: Setting Up Your Release and Distribution Plan Part 2 - "Aggregators" (DistroKid, CD Baby, etc) w/ Cullah
In the previous episode, Host Emily White discusses the importance of "direct to fan" distribution as the foundation of building a sustainable music career. The next step on a musician's journey is to distribute to "DSP's" or digital service providers - e.g. Spotify, Apple Music, Tidal, Deezer, etc.
In the book this podcast is based on, Emily explains when artists should use CD Baby and when Tunecore is the right fit. Since its publication Emily has been asked by musicians how DistroKid fits into the space. This episode explains exactly that.
Our episode's guest is Milwaukee based musician Cullah, who has been releasing an album a year on his birthday since he was 15. Now 30, Cullah recently released his 15th album 1/2, as he has been releasing music for half of his life. Emily and Cullah discuss aggregators and dig into how Cullah is building a sustainable music career.
Happy listening!
Check out Cullah at Cullah.com & @CullahMusic
Artist Growth is a platform that simplifies music industry operations by offering tools for event planning, financial tracking, tour coordination, and project management. It integrates various aspects of business management into a centralized system, enhancing collaboration and efficiency for artists, managers, record labels, and production teams.
Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter
Book this podcast was based on (Second Edition): 10% off w/ code PODCAST
Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList
CREDITS:
Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White
Engineer: Nathan Cain
Music: Matthew Wang
Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com
Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh

Jun 13, 2021 • 1h 18min
E11: Setting Up Your Release and Distribution Plan Part 1 - Direct to Fan w/ Bandcamp Founder Ethan Diamond
"Direct to fan" distribution is the foundation of building a sustainable music career. Technology companies are the most valuable entities in the world. Why? Because they have all of our data. Musicians and creators need to view themselves through this lens, instead of just giving their fans' data away to technology companies without knowing who is listening to their music. Musicians can do this by collecting as many email addresses and mobile phone numbers as possible to communicate with their audience directly forever.
This episode breaks down why you need to be selling music through your website and on Bandcamp. Bandcamp has been at the forefront of the direct to fan revolution, paying out $751 Million USD over the past decade to artists and rights holders.
To dig in further on this crucial topic, host Emily White interviews Bandcamp founder Ethan Diamond.
Also! Today’s episode is brought to you by the amazing folks at Bandzoogle. Built by musicians for musicians, #Bandzoogle is an all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a stunning website and EPK for your music. Head to Bandzoogle.com & try it free for 30 days, +use the promo code “SUSTAINABLE” to get 15% off the first year of any subscription.
Happy listening!
Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter.
Book this podcast was based on (Second Edition): 10% off w/ code PODCAST
Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList
CREDITS:
Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White
Engineer: Nathan Cain
Music: Matthew Wang
Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com
Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh

Jun 6, 2021 • 2h 10min
E10: How to Land a Sync Placement w/ Lauren Ross
Lauren Ross is an incredibly talented sync pitching representative, music supervisor, musician, and more. She has managed St. Vincent, launched Kill Rock Stars' licensing division and founded Terrorbird Media's sync pitching department. In this episode, Host Emily White interviews Lauren, taking listeners through steps that put musicians in the best position to land a "sync" placement. “Sync” is short for synchronization, which is when music is synchronized with picture - examples used in film, TV, advertisement, web show, etc.
Happy listening!
Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter.
Book this podcast was based on (Second Edition): 10% off w/ code PODCAST
Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList
CREDITS:
Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White
Engineer: Nathan Cain
Music: Matthew Wang
Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com
Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh

May 30, 2021 • 1h 9min
E9: Music Publishing Isn't Scary or Confusing w/ Songtrust President Molly Neuman
Music publishing has brought fear and confusion to many songwriters over the years. And Host Emily White understands why! There are horror stories of songwriters signing their publishing rights away for a nominal advance in the 20th century, only for their catalog to go on to make millions.
But first, what *is* music publishing? And how do you collect on it? The good news is, music publishing is more simple than you might think, and the modern music industry offers ways to collect on that revenue while also retaining your rights.
This episode explores all options for collecting on your music publishing revenue. Emily interviews Songtrust President Molly Neuman for a deeper dive into this topic, while also discussing Molly's incredible career.
Happy listening!
Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter.
Book this podcast was based on (Second Edition): 10% off w/ code PODCAST
Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList
CREDITS:
Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White
Engineer: Nathan Cain
Music: Matthew Wang
Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com
Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh


