

The Disciple Maker‘s Podcast
Discipleship.org
The Disciple Makers Podcast exists to tell stories about disciples of Jesus who make disciples. Discipleship.org, who sponsors the podcast, exists to Champion Jesus‘ way of disciple making. Episodes are published in thematic seasons. To learn more, visit www.discipleship.org or email us at info@discipleship.org.
Episodes
Mentioned books

May 12, 2025 • 41min
Training and Equipping Disciples
Reviving the Region
In this episode of the Disciple Maker's Podcast, we explore Acts Chapter 19, drawing modern parallels from Paul's ministry in Ephesus. Hosts discuss the concept of a 'Hall of Tyrannus' in the contemporary church, where believers are trained and equipped for radical discipleship and city-wide gospel saturation. Tune in for a powerful vision on how to create movement engines alongside traditional church models to achieve regional revival and reach the nations with the gospel of Jesus Christ.
00:00 Introduction and Opening Remarks
01:34 Discussing Acts Chapter 19
02:17 Paul's Ministry in Ephesus
11:10 Modern Parallels to Paul's Ministry
21:56 The Power of Parallel Tracks in Church Growth
23:09 Embracing Control vs. Movement of God
23:37 The Role of Doctrine and Fear in Church Leadership
25:04 The Importance of Multiplication and Discipleship
29:40 Encouragement for Aspiring Disciple Makers
35:27 The Vision for a Modern Hall of Tyrannus
Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/
Check out the following eBooks from Discipleship.org:
-- What Is Church? And How Important Is It?
https://discipleship.org/shop/what-is-church-and-how-important-is-it/
-- Family Discipleship Blueprint: A Year-by-Year Guide to Family Discipleship
https://discipleship.org/shop/family-discipleship-blueprint-a-year-by-year-guide-to-family-discipleship/
-- Becoming a Disciple Maker
https://discipleship.org/shop/becoming-a-disciple-maker/
-- National Study: The State of Disciple Making Churches: A 10 Minute Visual Guide
https://discipleship.org/shop/national-study-the-state-of-disciple-making-churches-a-10-minute-visual-guide/
-- Reaching & Discipling Women: A Guide to Women’s Ministry in Your Church
https://discipleship.org/shop/reaching-discipling-women-a-guide-to-womens-ministry-in-your-church/
Check out the following Books from Discipleship.org:
-- The Discipleship Gospel
https://himpublications.com/product/the-discipleship-gospel/?utm_source=discipleship-org&utm_medium=website&utm_campaign=books-page
-- Disciple-Making Culture
https://himpublications.com/product/disciple-making-culture/
-- Recreated to Be like God: Making Disciples in the Image of Jesus
https://a.co/d/6DDvUrC
-- King Jesus and the Beauty of Obedience-Based Discipleship
https://a.co/d/7d85z6T
-- The Disciple Maker's Handbook: Seven Elements of a Discipleship Lifestyle
https://a.co/d/4ZHIbQz
Take the FREE Disciple Maker Assessment:
https://church-multiplication.com/disciplemaker/
Come to the The National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/national-disciple-making-forum/
Stay informed - Get our newsletter:
http://eepurl.com/hPViAr
Listen - Disciple Maker's Podcast:
https://discipleship.org/resources/podcast/

May 5, 2025 • 31min
Celebrating Discipleship: The Unseen Scorecard
Reinventing the Scorecard: Principles for Effective Disciple Making
Welcome to the final episode of our series on the 10 principles of disciple making! In this episode, we celebrate your journey so far and dive into the crucial topic of reinventing the scorecard for disciple making. We discuss the traditional ways churches have measured success, such as attendance and donations, and why these metrics may not fully capture the essence of true disciple making. We explore the importance of tracking 'controllable' like sharing faith and prayer, versus 'uncontrollable' like conversions and baptisms. The conversation also delves into real-world examples from churches and movements worldwide, including impressive results from India. Whether you're looking to transform how success is measured in your church or seeking inspiration for personal disciple-making efforts, this episode offers valuable insights and practical advice. Join us for an enlightening session that aims to help you and your community flourish in disciple making!
Key Takeaways
00:00 Introduction and Applause
01:23 Recap of the 10 Principles Series
01:49 Reinventing the Scorecard
02:13 Traditional Metrics in Churches
03:38 The Importance of Tracking Disciple Making
05:39 Examples of Effective Scorecards
08:50 Generational Growth and Multiplication
10:01 Celebrating the Right Metrics
11:32 Personal Experiences and Observations
14:22 Apprenticeship and Measuring Success
14:52 Controllable vs. Uncontrollable Metrics
16:15 Personal Responsibility in Faith
20:05 Creating a Movement Maker Factory
23:02 Evaluating Church Success
26:16 Generosity and Accountability in Discipleship
27:36 Reaching the Unchurched
29:16 Final Thoughts and Resources
Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/
Check out the following eBooks from Discipleship.org:
-- What Is Church? And How Important Is It?
https://discipleship.org/shop/what-is-church-and-how-important-is-it/
-- Family Discipleship Blueprint: A Year-by-Year Guide to Family Discipleship
https://discipleship.org/shop/family-discipleship-blueprint-a-year-by-year-guide-to-family-discipleship/
-- Becoming a Disciple Maker
https://discipleship.org/shop/becoming-a-disciple-maker/
-- National Study: The State of Disciple Making Churches: A 10 Minute Visual Guide
https://discipleship.org/shop/national-study-the-state-of-disciple-making-churches-a-10-minute-visual-guide/
-- Reaching & Discipling Women: A Guide to Women’s Ministry in Your Church
https://discipleship.org/shop/reaching-discipling-women-a-guide-to-womens-ministry-in-your-church/
Check out the following Books from Discipleship.org:
-- The Discipleship Gospel
https://himpublications.com/product/the-discipleship-gospel/?utm_source=discipleship-org&utm_medium=website&utm_campaign=books-page
-- Disciple-Making Culture
https://himpublications.com/product/disciple-making-culture/
-- Recreated to Be like God: Making Disciples in the Image of Jesus
https://a.co/d/6DDvUrC
-- King Jesus and the Beauty of Obedience-Based Discipleship
https://a.co/d/7d85z6T
-- The Disciple Maker's Handbook: Seven Elements of a Discipleship Lifestyle
https://a.co/d/4ZHIbQz
Take the FREE Disciple Maker Assessment:
https://church-multiplication.com/disciplemaker/
Come to the The National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/national-disciple-making-forum/
Stay informed - Get our newsletter:
http://eepurl.com/hPViAr
Listen - Disciple Maker's Podcast:
https://discipleship.org/resources/podcast/

11 snips
Apr 28, 2025 • 38min
Simple, Effective, and Reproducible Disciple Making Practices
Simple, Effective, and Reproducible: Core Disciple Making Tools & Laser Focus | Disciple Maker's Podcast
Join us on the Disciple Maker's Podcast as we dive deep into two essential principles for fostering disciple-making cultures: utilizing simple, effective, and reproducible tools and maintaining laser focus on the mission of making disciples who make disciples. Hosts Jason Ishmael and Josh explore the significance of these principles, share practical examples, and discuss a pathway for training others. They also touch on the broader impact of disciple-making and how it can transform communities. Whether you're a church leader or a passionate disciple, this episode offers valuable insights to boost your disciple-making efforts. Don't miss out!
Stay Informed - Get our newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hPViAr
Key Takeaways
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
01:12 Series Overview: 10 Core Disciple Making Principles
01:49 Principle 8: Simple, Effective, and Reproducible Tools
02:42 Importance of Simplicity in Disciple Making
05:35 Practical Examples and Tools
08:59 The Apprenticeship Pathway
13:22 Effective Training and Reproducibility
17:05 Overcoming Fear in Discipleship
17:20 The Seven Commands of Christ
18:01 Evaluating and Using Effective Tools
18:43 Laser Focus in Disciple Making
21:25 Training the Saved and Saving the Lost
27:52 Leveraging Ministries for Disciple Making
30:13 The Kingdom Impact of Disciple Making
33:21 Avoiding Distractions and Staying Focused
36:35 Conclusion and Resources
Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/
Check out the following eBooks from Discipleship.org:
-- What Is Church? And How Important Is It?
https://discipleship.org/shop/what-is-church-and-how-important-is-it/
-- Family Discipleship Blueprint: A Year-by-Year Guide to Family Discipleship
https://discipleship.org/shop/family-discipleship-blueprint-a-year-by-year-guide-to-family-discipleship/
-- Becoming a Disciple Maker
https://discipleship.org/shop/becoming-a-disciple-maker/
-- National Study: The State of Disciple Making Churches: A 10 Minute Visual Guide
https://discipleship.org/shop/national-study-the-state-of-disciple-making-churches-a-10-minute-visual-guide/
-- Reaching & Discipling Women: A Guide to Women’s Ministry in Your Church
https://discipleship.org/shop/reaching-discipling-women-a-guide-to-womens-ministry-in-your-church/
Check out the following Books from Discipleship.org:
-- The Discipleship Gospel
https://himpublications.com/product/the-discipleship-gospel/?utm_source=discipleship-org&utm_medium=website&utm_campaign=books-page
-- Disciple-Making Culture
https://himpublications.com/product/disciple-making-culture/
-- Recreated to Be like God: Making Disciples in the Image of Jesus
https://a.co/d/6DDvUrC
-- King Jesus and the Beauty of Obedience-Based Discipleship
https://a.co/d/7d85z6T
-- The Disciple Maker's Handbook: Seven Elements of a Discipleship Lifestyle
https://a.co/d/4ZHIbQz
Take the FREE Disciple Maker Assessment:
https://church-multiplication.com/disciplemaker/
Come to the The National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/national-disciple-making-forum/
Stay informed - Get our newsletter:
http://eepurl.com/hPViAr
Listen - Disciple Maker's Podcast:
https://discipleship.org/resources/podcast/

Apr 21, 2025 • 31min
Equip and Release the Priesthood of All Believers
Join us at the 2025 National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/national-disciple-making-forum/
Check out Discipleship.org for resources on disciple-making: https://discipleship.org/resources/
Today’s episode will help us understand how to activate the priesthood of all believers and empower everyday people to step into their God-given calling.
Stay Informed - Get our newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hPViAr
Empowering Every Believer: Activating the Priesthood of All Believers - Disciple Maker's Podcast Ep. 7
In this episode of the Disciple Maker's Podcast, hosts dive into the seventh principle of disciple making – the equipping and releasing of the priesthood of all believers. Drawing from studies by Bobby Harrington and insights from Ephesians 4, they emphasize the importance of lowering the bar for entry into ministry while increasing support and accountability. The discussion highlights the need to break down the professional laity divide, allowing everyone to participate fully in God's work. Personal anecdotes illustrate how ordinary individuals, regardless of their backgrounds or roles, can be used powerfully by God. The episode closes with a call to action for both church leaders and individual believers to embrace their roles in the Kingdom and equip others to do the same.
Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/
Key Takeaways
00:00 Welcome Back to The Disciple Maker's Podcast
00:36 Introduction to Disciple Making Principles
01:12 Principle #7: Equipping and Releasing the Priesthood
01:51 The Shift from Old Covenant to New
02:46 Breaking Down Professional Ministry
04:35 Practical Steps for Church Leaders
06:12 Encouraging and Empowering Believers
06:37 Personal Testimonies and Experiences
11:32 The Importance of Speaking Life into Others
12:20 Early Preaching Experiences
13:58 The Rat Trap Illustration
14:25 Early Preaching Experiences
14:57 Mentorship and Opportunities
15:49 Equipping and Releasing the Priesthood
18:11 Lowering the Bar of Entry
18:21 Personal Responsibility in Ministry
19:31 Empowering Individuals for Ministry
24:33 The Power of God in Everyone
26:41 Encouraging Initiative in Ministry
29:34 Conclusion and Resources
Check out our Blogs: https://discipleship.org/blog/
See Below for a longer description:
The episode kicks off with Josh and Jason having some fun, channeling their inner newscasters as they introduce The Disciple Maker's Podcast. Right away, they hit on the heart of the conversation: the Church isn’t just for professionals — every believer is called and equipped to take part in the mission.
This episode dives into one of the ten core disciple-making principles: activating the priesthood of all believers, a concept drawn from Bobby Harrington and Discipleship.org. Josh and Jason unpack how the Church often sidelines most people, treating ministry like a spectator sport — a few “professionals” on the court, while the rest just watch from the stands. But Jesus calls everyone to get in the game, and the Holy Spirit gives us all what we need to play.
They explore the shift from the Old Covenant, where only priests (Levites) had access to God, to the New Covenant — where all believers are invited to serve and represent Him directly. It’s a powerful reminder that ministry isn’t reserved for a select few.
Josh also highlights the common “professional vs. laity” gap in churches and argues for lowering the barriers so anyone can step into ministry, with the right support and accountability along the way.
He shares his own story — starting as a nervous, underprepared teenager giving his first sermon with a makeshift object lesson — and how mentors spotted potential and gave him room to grow. That experience shaped his path and reinforced the power of empowering others before they feel “ready.”
Josh and Jason also push church leaders to create meaningful opportunities beyond simple Sunday roles like handing out bulletins. The goal? Equip people to share the gospel and make disciples, not just fill a slot.
One story really drives this home: Josh tells of a woman in his church who felt called to serve in nursing homes. When she asked if she needed permission, Josh simply told her to go for it — God had already called her.
They wrap up by encouraging leaders to remove obstacles, invest in people, and hold them accountable as they step into ministry — because when the Church unleashes the priesthood of all believers, lives change.
Josh closes with a reminder: the same Spirit that raised Jesus lives in every believer, so there’s no need to wait for permission. He invites listeners to check out resources at Discipleship.org and teases the next episode, where the conversation will continue

6 snips
Apr 14, 2025 • 31min
Scripture as the Curriculum
Dive into the transformative power of scripture as the core of disciple-making. Discover how simple obedience to God's Word, guided by the Holy Spirit, can alter lives and communities. Learn about the effectiveness of the Discovery Bible Study method and its global impact. Hear personal anecdotes revealing the amazing outcomes of genuine scripture engagement. Explore innovative approaches to address the challenges of traditional discipleship models, empowering believers along their journey.

Apr 7, 2025 • 35min
Overseeding the Gospel
Join us at the 2025 National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/national-disciple-making-forum/
Check out Discipleship.org for resources on disciple-making: https://discipleship.org/resources/
Today’s episode will help us understand the power of prayer and fasting, how to incorporate them into our daily lives, and why they are essential for personal and community transformation.
Stay Informed - Get our newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hPViAr
The Power of Abundantly Sowing Gospel Seeds - Disciple Maker's Podcast
In this episode of the Disciple Maker's Podcast, hosts Jason Ishmael and Josh Howard dive into the fifth principle of disciple making: 'Overseeding the Gospel.' They discuss the importance of abundantly sowing seeds of the gospel, drawing on farming principles and illustrating how evangelism is about sharing the beauty and goodness of Jesus. They also highlight the need for gospel seed to be shared in its full form and challenge listeners to have Jesus regularly on their lips. The episode offers practical tools for evangelism and urges believers to engage in intentional gospel sharing to see a bountiful harvest.
Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/
Key Takeaways
00:00 Introduction and Drum Roll
00:26 Introducing the 10 Principles of Disciple Making
00:49 Principle 5: Overseeding the Gospel
02:02 The Importance of Abundant Gospel Sowing
04:04 Illustration: Evangelism and Relationships
05:15 Challenges in Modern Evangelism
07:52 Sowing Gospel Seeds in Today's Culture
11:59 The Full Gospel vs. Partial Gospel
16:51 A New Commandment: Love One Another
17:02 The Authority of Jesus Christ
17:21 Misconceptions About Salvation
19:31 The Importance of Unity in Mission
22:41 Abundant Seed Sowing and Harvest
27:41 Practical Tools for Evangelism
30:43 Encouragement and Final Thoughts
Check out our Blogs: https://discipleship.org/blog/
See Below for a longer description:
In this episode of the Disciple Maker’s Podcast, Josh Howard and Jason Ishmael break down the concept of “overseeding the gospel” — the fifth principle in their disciple-making series. Kicking things off with some lighthearted banter, they dive into why spreading the gospel abundantly is crucial for effective evangelism.
Josh explains that overseeding is like a farmer scattering seeds generously—more seeds mean a greater harvest. This principle fuels disciple-making movements worldwide, especially in places like India and China, where rapid growth happens because believers share the gospel frequently and widely.
A key takeaway? Repetition matters. In the West, gospel-sharing is often sporadic, but Josh emphasizes that the more we sow, the more we reap. Jason clears up a common misconception: good marketing isn’t the same as evangelism. True gospel sowing happens through personal, intentional conversations—not just inviting people to church.
Josh uses a relatable analogy: if he wanted to set his son up with Jason’s daughter, he wouldn’t start by criticizing her. Instead, he’d highlight his son’s best qualities. Evangelism should be the same—helping people see Jesus’ beauty, not just pointing out their flaws.
Jason brings up the parable of the sower, reminding us that we can’t control how people receive the gospel, but we’re called to plant seeds everywhere. The discussion then shifts to a major issue in modern Christianity: the watered-down “salvation-only” gospel. Josh and Jason push for a full gospel message—one that includes both forgiveness and submission to Jesus as King.
Josh warns against separating salvation from Jesus’ lordship, a mindset that has led to consumer-driven Christianity with little real transformation. He even describes a needed “second conversion,” where believers fully commit to Jesus’ authority. Jason paints a vivid picture: accepting Jesus’ sacrifice but refusing His leadership is like enjoying a lavish meal He paid for but not inviting Him to the table.
The episode also tackles the common debate over the “minimum entrance requirements” for heaven, arguing that this mindset misses the point. Instead of asking, “What’s the least I can do?” they encourage listeners to pursue full devotion to Jesus.
For practical application, Josh introduces tools like the "15-second testimony" and the "three circles gospel presentation," designed to help believers share their faith naturally in everyday conversations. The key? Talk about Jesus as easily as you’d recommend a great restaurant or movie.
They wrap up with a challenge: tell someone why following Jesus is good news, and ask if they’ve considered it. Many people are just waiting for someone to bring it up.
Bottom line? Evangelism isn’t about technique—it’s about loving Jesus so much that talking about Him becomes second nature. Sow seeds generously, trust God with the harvest, and watch what He does.

Mar 31, 2025 • 32min
The Foundation of Prayer and Fasting
Join us at the 2025 National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/national-disciple-making-forum/
Check out Discipleship.org for resources on disciple-making: https://discipleship.org/resources/
Today’s episode will help us understand the power of prayer and fasting, how to incorporate them into our daily lives, and why they are essential for personal and community transformation.
Stay Informed - Get our newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hPViAr
Leading by Example: Principle #3 of Disciple Making
The Power of Radical Prayer and Fasting | Disciple Makers Podcast
Join Jason Ishmael and Josh Howard as they dive deep into the fourth core disciple-making principle: the significance of a radical prayer and fasting culture. This episode covers the impact of prayer and fasting on spiritual movements and personal transformation, backed by biblical insights and historical examples. Learn practical tips to incorporate these practices into your life and community to see profound spiritual breakthroughs. Perfect for anyone looking to deepen their spiritual journey and impact the world for Christ.
Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/
Key Takeaways
00:00 Introduction and Banter
03:09 Disciple Making Principles Overview
03:38 Principle 4: Radical Prayer and Fasting
04:18 Practical Applications of Prayer and Fasting
04:36 Biblical Foundation for Fasting
07:41 Personal Reflections and Encouragement
10:31 Tips for Starting Fasting
13:20 Examples of Fasting in Ministry
16:23 Practical Steps to Begin Fasting
17:46 Pressing into God's Presence
18:27 Physical Actions with Spiritual Implications
19:43 The Benefits of Fasting
20:52 Practical Tools for Prayer and Fasting
26:14 Evaluating and Adjusting Your Cravings
28:33 Intentionality in Prayer and Fasting
32:20 Conclusion and Call to Action
Check out our Blogs: https://discipleship.org/blog/
See Below for a longer description:
In this episode, hosts Josh Howard and Jason Ishmael dive into the power of prayer and fasting in a disciple’s life and their impact on spiritual movements. They break down the biblical foundation, historical examples, and practical ways to incorporate these practices into daily life and ministry.
The conversation kicks off with lighthearted banter before shifting to the episode’s core theme: cultivating a culture of radical prayer and fasting. Josh emphasizes that some of the most impactful church movements rely on these disciplines, citing historical revivals that began with a few dedicated people seeking God through prayer and fasting.
Referencing Matthew 6, the hosts discuss how Jesus taught about fasting—not for public recognition, but as a way to deepen one’s connection with God. Jason points out a common misunderstanding: fasting isn’t just about giving up food—it’s about creating space for God to work. He shares how his church’s 21-day prayer and fasting tradition before Easter fosters spiritual renewal.
Josh and Jason offer practical tips for getting started, urging listeners to begin with small steps—like skipping one meal a week to focus on prayer. They highlight the story of Charles Finney and Pastor Nash, who fasted and prayed before Finney’s revivals, underscoring how essential these practices were to their ministry’s success.
The hosts also touch on the scientific benefits of fasting, such as increased mental clarity and discipline. They introduce tools like Dick Eastman’s "prayer wheel" to help structure prayer time and emphasize the importance of silence in prayer—something Jason admits was a struggle for him initially.
As the episode wraps up, Josh challenges listeners to take action—whether by fasting a meal a week, dedicating focused prayer time, or involving their community in these spiritual disciplines. They encourage listeners to share their experiences and reach out for support, reinforcing the idea that prayer and fasting aren’t just personal practices but catalysts for transformation in families, churches, and beyond.

Mar 24, 2025 • 32min
Leading From the Front
Join us at the 2025 National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/national-disciple-making-forum/
Check out Discipleship.org for resources on disciple-making: https://discipleship.org/resources/
Today’s episode will help us embrace authentic disciple-making by leading from the front, aligning our actions with our faith, and relying on the Holy Spirit for daily obedience.
Stay Informed - Get our newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hPViAr
Leading by Example: Principle #3 of Disciple Making
In this episode of 'The Makers of Disciples' podcast, we delve into the third principle of disciple making: leaders must lead from the front and model disciple making. Hosts discuss the challenges of practicing what is preached, the importance of personal and public alignment, and how to combat the dangers of 'charade mode.' Drawing upon personal anecdotes, biblical teachings, and the transformative power of living authentically, this discussion is a call to action for church leaders and individuals alike to repent, realign, and genuinely live out the teachings of Jesus. Join the conversation to be inspired and equipped to model true disciple making in your own community.
Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/
Key Takeaways
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
01:05 Principle Three: Leading from the Front
01:52 The Challenge of Authentic Leadership
04:48 The Danger of the Charade
09:39 Alexander the Great's Lesson
14:52 Reflecting on Missed Opportunities
15:28 Choosing Priorities Over God's Commands
16:37 Awakening to Reality: The Matrix Analogy
17:52 Modeling Discipleship in Everyday Life
19:17 Rediscovering Ancient Principles
20:36 The Power of Scripture and Jesus' Teachings
25:58 The Importance of Repentance
28:38 Striving for Obedience and Dependence on God
29:38 Closing Thoughts and Prayer
Check out our Blogs: https://discipleship.org/blog/
See Below for a longer description:
In this episode of the Makers of Disciples podcast, Josh Howard and Jason Ishmael dive into Principle 3: Leading From the Front—the tough but essential call for leaders to model disciple-making, not just talk about it.
They kick off with some lighthearted banter before getting real about the challenge of practicing what you preach. They revisit the first two principles: reclaiming disciple-making as the church’s core mission and having a clear, biblical definition of discipleship. But this third principle? It’s where the rubber meets the road.
Josh shares a hard truth—many church leaders, behind closed doors, admit they’re not actively leading people to faith outside of the pulpit. This gap between what’s preached and what’s practiced creates what they call “charade mode”—a dangerous disconnect where leaders appear to be disciple-makers but aren’t living it out.
The discussion gets practical. Jesus warned against performing faith for show, and Josh and Jason emphasize that leading from the front means real, everyday disciple-making. It’s not just for pastors—every Christian is called to model it at home, at work, and in their communities.
They illustrate this with a powerful story about Alexander the Great. When a young soldier named Alexander fled from battle, the general told him: Change your name or change your ways. The message? If we call ourselves disciples of Jesus, we need to live like it.
Josh highlights the need for daily repentance—not just for major sins, but as a constant realignment with Jesus. Jason stresses soaking in the Gospels, letting Jesus’ life shape our own. They remind listeners that disciple-making isn’t about striving alone; it’s fueled by the Holy Spirit, who empowers believers to walk this out every day.
They also acknowledge the internal struggle—Paul himself wrestled with doing what’s right (Romans 7). But leaning on God's grace and being intentional about obedience is the key.
As the episode wraps up, Josh challenges listeners to commit to modeling disciple-making and tell someone for accountability. Jason encourages leaning into God’s help and staying rooted in His Word. They close with a powerful prayer, asking God to bring conviction, expose what needs to change, and strengthen hearts for the journey ahead.
At its core, this episode is a call to authentic, everyday disciple-making—not as a concept, but as a lifestyle.

Mar 17, 2025 • 30min
Definition of Disciple Making
Discover the true essence of discipleship as the hosts break down biblical definitions rooted in Matthew 4:19. Explore the vital components of following Jesus, being transformed by Him, and joining His mission. The conversation delves into the misconceptions surrounding discipleship and the importance of building a committed relationship with Jesus. Listeners are encouraged to embrace the transformative journey, take bold steps in their faith, and acknowledge the power of intentional relationships in disciple-making. Tune in for practical insights and opportunities for growth!

Mar 10, 2025 • 34min
Disciple-Making as the Core Mission of the Church
Come to the 2025 National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/
Check out Discipleship.org for resources on disciple-making: https://discipleship.org/resources/
Today’s episode will help us understand why disciple-making should be the church’s core mission and how we can integrate it into our daily lives through prayer, intentional relationships, and simple, faithful steps.
Stay Informed - Get our newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hPViAr
Disciple Making: Making It the Core Mission
Welcome back to the Disciple Maker's Podcast! In this episode, hosts Josh Howard and Jason Ishmael embark on a new series focusing on the '10 Core Principles of Disciple Making.' This episode dives into making disciple making the core mission of the church. Jason and Josh discuss why it's important to remind the church and individuals that disciple making should be the core mission. They share personal stories, confront the common disconnect between knowledge and action, and provide practical steps on how to make disciple making integral in our personal lives and within the church. Join us as we explore the significance of intentionality, prayer, and the importance of hands-on disciple making. Stay tuned for more insights and real-life stories aimed at equipping you to fulfill the Great Commission. Don't miss out on the details of upcoming events, including the Discipleship.org National Disciple Making Forum in Houston, Texas.
Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/
Key Takeaways
00:00 Introduction and Banter
01:04 Introducing the 10 Core Principles of Disciple Making
01:41 Principle 1: Making Disciple Making the Core Mission
03:24 Challenges in Prioritizing Disciple Making
04:42 Personal Stories and Practical Applications
05:56 The Importance of Personal Commitment
10:29 Evangelism and Disciple Making: A Unified Mission
11:49 Practical Steps for Effective Disciple Making
17:05 Conviction and Commitment to Prayer
17:49 Praying for a Doctor Friend
19:25 Overcoming Fear to Pray
20:33 A Miraculous Healing
22:26 The Power of Intentional Prayer
24:20 Facing Rejection in Evangelism
27:38 Encouragement to Make Disciples
29:48 Final Thoughts and Call to Action
Check out our Blogs: https://discipleship.org/blog/
See Below for a longer description:
In the first episode of the Disciple Maker’s Podcast, hosts Josh Howard and Jason Ishmael dive into the heart of disciple-making, breaking it down in a way that’s both practical and relatable. They kick things off with some lighthearted banter before getting serious about their core message: making disciple-making the central mission of both the church and individual believers.
Josh introduces the podcast’s framework—10 Core Principles of Disciple-Making—developed by him and Bobby Harrington. Each episode will unpack one principle, starting with the foundational idea: disciple-making must be the church’s primary focus. While this seems obvious, they acknowledge that many churches still struggle to put it into practice.
Jason challenges the audience by pointing out the gap between knowing disciple-making is essential and actually doing it. He shares his own struggles in aligning his life with Jesus’ teachings—like when his wife’s blunt question about tithing revealed an area he hadn’t fully surrendered. Moments like these highlight how disciple-making isn’t just for pastors—it’s a calling for every believer.
The conversation turns to practical steps. Josh and Jason emphasize that disciple-making isn’t a lofty goal but something woven into everyday life. Josh shares a personal story about being convicted for not praying for non-believers, leading him and his wife to start praying daily. This simple act opened doors, including a surprising ministry opportunity with a previously resistant doctor.
They stress that disciple-making happens in small, intentional relationships—"ones, twos, and threes," not massive crowds. It’s about praying for people by name, being available, and stepping out in faith. They also tackle the misconception that evangelism and discipleship are separate tasks, reinforcing that Jesus saw them as one mission: leading people to faith and maturity.
Before wrapping up, they preview a major study on thriving disciple-making churches, which will be shared at an event in Houston, Texas. Their final challenge? Don’t overcomplicate it. Trust God, take small faithful steps, and make disciple-making a natural part of life.
This episode is both inspiring and practical—packed with real stories, honest struggles, and clear next steps for anyone looking to live out the Great Commission.
In the first episode of the Disciple Maker’s Podcast, hosts Josh Howard and Jason Ishmael dive into the heart of disciple-making, breaking it down in a way that’s both practical and relatable. They kick things off with some lighthearted banter before getting serious about their core message: making disciple-making the central mission of both the church and individual believers.
Josh introduces the podcast’s framework—10 Core Principles of Disciple-Making—developed by him and Bobby Harrington. Each episode will unpack one principle, starting with the foundational idea: disciple-making must be the church’s primary focus. While this seems obvious, they acknowledge that many churches still struggle to put it into practice.
Jason challenges the audience by pointing out the gap between knowing disciple-making is essential and actually doing it. He shares his own struggles in aligning his life with Jesus’ teachings—like when his wife’s blunt question about tithing revealed an area he hadn’t fully surrendered. Moments like these highlight how disciple-making isn’t just for pastors—it’s a calling for every believer.
The conversation turns to practical steps. Josh and Jason emphasize that disciple-making isn’t a lofty goal but something woven into everyday life. Josh shares a personal story about being convicted for not praying for non-believers, leading him and his wife to start praying daily. This simple act opened doors, including a surprising ministry opportunity with a previously resistant doctor.
They stress that disciple-making happens in small, intentional relationships—"ones, twos, and threes," not massive crowds. It’s about praying for people by name, being available, and stepping out in faith. They also tackle the misconception that evangelism and discipleship are separate tasks, reinforcing that Jesus saw them as one mission: leading people to faith and maturity.
Before wrapping up, they preview a major study on thriving disciple-making churches, which will be shared at an event in Houston, Texas. Their final challenge? Don’t overcomplicate it. Trust God, take small faithful steps, and make disciple-making a natural part of life.
This episode is both inspiring and practical—packed with real stories, honest struggles, and clear next steps for anyone looking to live out the Great Commission.


