Destination On The Left

With a talent for creating special events that blossomed while working for my dad's car stereo shop, Nicole got her start in marketing at Frontier Field in Rochester and began serving as the executive director of the internationally known Lilac Festival. Later on, she headed the Canandaigua, New York Business Improvement District while also performing projects for the tourism promotion agency Visit Rochester. In 2009, Nicole founded Break the Ice Media, with more than 20 years of experience in tourism marketing. She now hosts "Destination on the Left," a highly successful tourism marketing podcast. As a business owner, Nicole knows what it takes to be successful. She founded BTI to help businesses tell their brand story through public relations digital and traditional channels. She has the ability to uncover unique marketing opportunities and develop marketing and public relations initiatives that help clients build long-term success. On this episode of Destination on the Left, Nicole Mahoney highlights the importance of collaboration. In this ever-changing world, it's essential to find ways to collaborate in order to survive and thrive. We need to step outside our self-imposed silos and actively seek out opportunities to create partnerships with others that move the whole travel industry forward. What You Will Learn in This Episode: Why the global events mean it's more important than ever to connect positively with others How collaboration can be powerful in the travel and tourism industry The situation that helped Nicole understand the power of collaboration What makes some partnerships successful, while others struggle to get off the ground An overview of the findings from Nicole's 2020 research study on collaboration in the travel, tourism, and hospitality How perceived competitors can use coopetition to accomplish something bigger than themselves The three different types of collaborators and how each one affects and how they come together to form a framework for success A Passion for Collaboration Nicole shares her personal experience of building a community collaboration from the ground up when she was involved in the Rochester Frontier Field project. She describes how her experience of town-wide cooperation led to her subsequent passion for finding ways to build successful partnerships in the travel and tourism industry. Bringing a community together to make something happen is magical — and it's what sets the groundwork for success during challenging times. Nicole and her partner Susan Baier teamed to conduct a study on the effects of coopetition. This term refers to those times when perceived competitors come together to accomplish something more significant than they could achieve alone. Breaking Out of Silos As travel and tourism industry professionals, we need to harness the power of collaboration with other organizations — even with our competitors. Recognizing and understanding the positive impacts of inter-organizational collaborations on business success is key in effectively leveraging our available tools. As Nicole says, collaboration is the exponential multiplier that makes one plus one greater than two. When we commit to working in partnership with others, we can move forward faster and more effectively. A Collaboration Framework There are often challenges on the path to achieving successful collaboration, and Nicole describes why she grouped these challenges under three broad headings. The three C's framework comprises communication, commonality, and commitment; while some specific challenges may be encountered more often than others, Nicole explores why it is clear from her research that overcoming challenges in all three areas is critical for collaborations to be successful. This framework is critical in identifying opportunities in the face of adversity, and professionals and organizations that are able to navigate these three areas can thrive under any circumstances. Resources: Email: nicole@breaktheicemedia.com Website: www.destinationontheleft.com/ Website: https://breaktheicemedia.com/ Twitter: @Break_TheIce Facebook: @BreakTheIceMedia

Gary Murphy is Co-Owner and Senior Vice President of Sales at Ama Waterways, and his experience in the travel industry spans more than 30 years. After completing his Business Degree at California State University, Northridge, Gary's early business experience involved positions with IBM, Group Voyagers in Europe, and Brendan Vacations, before becoming Vice President of Marketing and Sales for the rapidly expanding Miami Air International. From there, Gary returned to one of the country's leading tour operators, Brendan Vacations, where he served as Vice President of Marketing and Sales and, in 2000, took over the role of President. In 2009, Murphy left Brendan to become Vice President of National Accounts for AmaWaterways; in 2013, he was appointed Vice President of Sales and became Senior Vice President of Sales in 2019. On this episode of Destination on the Left, Gary Murphy shares his philosophy on standing out as a business by creating immersive experiences for travelers and why he believes that working with Travel Counselors is a solid business strategy. We discuss the benefits of river cruising, and Gary dives into some of the collaborations he has been involved in throughout his career that have helped the company innovate and improve their offering. What You Will Learn in this Episode: Gary's path into the river cruising industry, including the different parts of the industry he has worked in and the entrepreneurial spirit woven through it The history of river cruising in Europe Creative approaches that Gary has taken in developing Ama Waterways' river cruises Gary's philosophy toward the itineraries they create How Ama Waterways encourage their guests to immerse themselves in the experience of the port in which they're located Why they prefer not to include the gratuity and how that empowers guests to take ownership of the experience that they're having Strategies Gary uses when faced with challenges, particularly during the last few years Why Ama Waterways love collaborating with their Travel Advisor partners, and why they believe it's the most financially rewarding way to manage their business Opportunities for competition that AMA Waterways is working on right now Creative Approaches in Travel As travelers, often our most valuable commodity is time — Gary guides us through how Ama Waterways plan and create their river cruise itineraries to allow guests to make the most of their vacation by enabling them to wake up each morning in a beautiful new town. He shares how they have designed their trips to take advantage of the most beautiful parts of a country while cruising during the day, and details some of the ways the company has innovated to provide the best experience possible to their guests. We also discuss creative ways that Ama Waterways has encouraged travelers to make the most of each new destination on the cruise and their philosophy that you need to spend less time on the ship — no matter how beautiful and luxurious it is —and more time enjoying each new town or city. Ama Waterways' Philosophy on Travel Gary shares how Ama Waterways do things that they feel are the best use of their clients' time, that give them the best value and deliver a superb travel experience. He describes how the company's founders are, at heart, adventurers with a fortitude that moves them forward through challenges. Ama understands the best way to travel, and they follow that philosophy to deliver exceptional experiences. Gary and I discuss the difference between a poor quality all-inclusive experience and a premium experience that encourages guests to experience the gastronomy of the country they're visiting. We touch on what makes Ama Waterways stand out in a crowded market and why they prefer to march to the beat of their own drum and curate an experience that enhances their guest's vacation than follow the crowd. Creative Coopetition in River Cruising Gary discusses some of the upcoming collaborations with competitors, including The American Society of Travel Agents conference in Budapest next month. River cruise lines have come together and coordinated their ships' timetables so that travel advisors can see the different ships firsthand. Collaboration with guests is also a fantastic way to discover opportunities. Gary shares some of the partnerships Ama Waterways has built with other businesses after being guided by what clients are looking for to make the river cruise experience even better. Resources: Website: www.amawaterways.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-murphy-815641155/

Carrie Simmons is a leader, strategist, and creative problem-solver with expertise in values-driven, integrated brand and marketing approaches. She is the Executive Director of the Stowe Area Association, outwardly known as Go Stowe, serving approximately 250 business members by promoting the Stowe brand through effective public relations, social media strategies, as well as and operating a visitor information center and central reservations service for hotels and inns. Prior to Go Stowe, Carrie was the owner and creative director of New Ground Creative, a creative firm that built brands through engaging design, dynamic campaigns, and authentic messaging. Carrie finds inspiration in travel, singing, reading, and time spent outdoors with her family. She is currently a board member of Stowe Vibrancy and Executive Board Member of the Vermont Association of Chamber of Commerce Executives. Rachel is Chief Hospitality Experience Officer at the Sun and Ski Inn in Stowe, Vermont. She is passionate about hospitality, tourism, and marketing, and she serves on the Board of Trustees of her local destination marketing organization, Go Stowe. In December 2018, Rachel completed a certificate in Hospitality Management from eCornell. In 2020 Rachel founded her coaching practice, Peak, and she is currently working towards her International Coaching Federation certification. Rachel is an avid reader, community leader, proud wife, and mother of three and loves to mountain bike and nordic ski in the woods of Vermont. On this episode of Destination on the Left, I talk with Rachel and Carrie, two extraordinary leaders in the travel industry from Stowe, Vermont. We discuss how facing challenges forces you to accelerate plans and how the pandemic led to a collaboration between three communities and the creation of a new brand. Rachel also gives her perspective on what's going on in the travel and tourism industry right now, and why she made the decision to niche down in her marketing. What You Will Learn in this Episode: Why having a solid relationship with your DMO will benefit your business Why Rachel went into hotel management despite never planning to take over the family business Accelerate Women Leaders in Travel leadership retreat and how Carrie and Rachel feel it adds to professional development for women What Stowe as an area and Rachel as a hotelier have done to stand out from the crowd How Rachel reimagined and expanded the Sun and Ski Inn to exceed modern family's vacation expectations Why refining your target market can expand rather than reduce your business opportunities Recent challenges that Carrie and Go Stowe have faced and the creative solutions that have come from adversity How technology has played a part in being prepared for the future Why taking risks and paying attention to trends has paid off for Rachel's business Carris's advice for DMOs looking to creatively collaborate with peers and neighbors Future Travel Trends It's always worth paying attention to what's going on in the market and planning for upcoming trends. The last two years have shown that constant change and evolution are the only things you can bank on in this industry. Rachel describes her philosophy of taking risks in her hospitality business and why she constantly keeps one eye on the future as she makes decisions in her business. Thinking about how you plan to evolve as a destination prepares you for whatever is around the corner and allows you to pivot quickly with demand. Carrie describes how the Stowe Area Association has found opportunities to collaborate with perceived competitors to create something bigger together than they could create alone. She shares examples of some amazing coopetition partnerships and why it's essential to come together to weather storms successfully. Collaborating with the Wider Community There are myriad opportunities to bring visitors into your area if you creatively collaborate with others in the travel and tourism industries. Carrie discusses the DMO perspective on seeking ways to connect with others to bring people to Vermont as a whole. We need to find ways to think outside of the box and realize that it's not always necessarily the traditional collaborations that are the most effective. Everyone you collaborate with in your town, in the different segments, and whether for economic development or recreation, builds a beautiful network of people. Rachel and Carrie emphasize that their community is what makes Stowe so special, in addition, of course, to the extraordinary landscape, historic buildings, shops, restaurants, and places to stay. It's really the people that make the soul of the community. And that's a big piece that stands out. A rising tide raises all ships, after all, so leveraging the unique mix of businesses and supporting each other as a destination helps Stowe move forward. Marketing Your Destination From a marketing standpoint, it can be hard to make a choice about who you're hoping to appeal to with your destination. Many people hope by targeting as broad an audience as possible; they will be more successful in their business. Rachel describes why she decided to focus in tight on promoting her hotel and attractions to active couples and families and how that changed the business for the better. Carrie ends our inspiring conversation by emphasizing the need to embrace the idea that the travel and tourism industry isn't necessarily the end goal. The visitor economy is the pipeline to providing opportunities to the community and interconnecting them with other organizations. Having a holistic approach to the industry is the key as we're moving forward into 2022. Resources: Website: www.sunandskiinn.com Website: www.peakinspiringtransformation.com Website: https://gostowe.com/ Website: https://www.womenleadersintravel.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sunandskiinn Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/gostowe LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachel-vandenberg-2102293/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/stowe-area-association/

Melinda Huntley is the Executive Director of the Ohio Travel Association, the only statewide trade association representing all tourism industry sectors. Representing Ohio's $43 billion tourism industry, the Ohio Travel Association makes Ohio's tourism businesses stronger, better prepared, and more profitable through unifying the voice of the industry for legislative advocacy, providing professional development opportunities and training, and connecting buyers and sellers with events such as the Heartland Travel Showcase. On this episode of Destination on the Left, I talk with Melinda Huntley about the four elements that she believes make for a successful collaboration and how to apply them in real situations. Melinda also shares details of the innovative Epic Destinations program that the Ohio Travel Association is developing and dives into the ever-changing travel and tourism industry landscape. What You Will Learn in this Episode: Why Melinda moved from Biomedical Communications into the travel and tourism industry Why Melinda believes that working at a DMO was a life-changing experience for her The many different areas of expertise you end up learning as part of a destination marketing organization How to pick a niche market and build a program around it How the Ohio birding collaborative project came about Being active in the local community helps you recognize new marketing opportunities How seeking collaboration in the face of opposition helps solve significant problems The importance of finding common ground in making partnerships successful The four elements that comprise a collaboration that really works Telling the whole story of a destination, spotting opportunities, and digging into the details Why it's critical to focus on your 'why' Recent projects that Melinda has been involved in that have leveraged collaboration The Ohio Travel and Tourism Academy and what they do to help tourism professionals The Heartland Travel Showcase, Epic Group Travel, and why Melinda became interested in the unique selling points of group travel How to Achieve Successful Collaborations On this show, we're all about building partnerships with others that benefit everyone. My discussion with Melinda was so valuable, and she shared so many golden nuggets in our conversation. She describes the four elements that are absolutely critical to achieving a successful collaboration. We discuss why you need to invite others to the table, why you shouldn't be afraid to give credit elsewhere, how to understand the vital role that perception plays, and the importance of seeking out the root cause of making a change. We discuss in detail how to apply each of these elements, and Melinda provides specific examples of how she has used them in her organization. We dive deep into the importance of focusing on your 'why' as a travel and tourism organization and seeing the end goal as the key achievement. Melinda steps us through her recent Birding project — how it got off the ground and why inviting others to the table really helped the Ohio Travel Organization get it off the ground. Building Skills Pivoting and evolving are skills we have all had to embrace recently, and as a community, professionals in the travel and tourism have had to do it more than most. Melinda describes how asking your stakeholders what they need is an oft-missed step in a project and shares why when you seek guidance, you can really make a difference. Focusing on your stakeholders and your customers wise is essential when you're trying to draw focus to our destination, but often we are tripped up by not making our value clear. Melinda shares an example of when she had to take a pause when organizing a virtual conference and go back to the bones of what attendees really wanted from the event. Getting Ready for Group Travel Melinda shares why she's so excited about the group tour market and the possibility of leveraging the trend towards transformative travel and developing group experiences that are unique. The demand for curated travel in someone has accelerated because of the events of the last few years, so there is a real opportunity for destinations to set themselves up for success. We discuss the importance of innovating in the space and move on from how group travel looked 20 years ago. Melinda shares the Epic Group Experiences — a training and recognition program for group travel, and how her team developed a designation program to share standards and best practices. Planning for the future is exciting and organizations like Melinda's really are at the forefront of building collaborative networks that move the travel industry forward. Resources: Website: www.ohiotravel.org Twitter: https://twitter.com/ohiotravel Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/OhioTravel/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melindahuntley/

Marilee Sonneman Kostadimas delivers 20+ years' experience and acumen in corporate events, incentive travel, and destination management. An alumna of San Francisco State University, Marilee pursued graduate and undergraduate studies in Classics and Classical Archaeology. She holds credentials as a Certified Meeting Professional (CMP) and Destination Management Certified Professional (DMCP). Speaker, author, byline contributor to the hospitality industry bible, the Convention Industry Council Manual 9th Edition: A Working Guide for Effective Meetings and Conventions, industry leader: As President 2016-2017 of Meeting Professionals International Northern California Chapter (MPINCC), the world's largest chapter of the world's largest hospitality-industry association, Marilee led MPINCC to a historic year of records and first, including global achievement as a two-time MPI RISE 2017 Award winner. She also served two terms as President of the Society for Incentive Travel Excellence Northern California Chapter (SITENCC) and four years on the Certification and Accreditation Board of Directors of the Association of Destination Management Executives International (ADMEI). On this episode of Destination on the Left, Marilee discusses her expertise in storytelling as a crucial aspect of successfully sharing your destination with others. She chats about her framework for creating an end-to-end storyline, which includes the unique, the exclusive, the wow, the hidden gems, and the quiet in between, and how you can shift your perspective to better understand what your guests are looking for. What You Will Learn in This Episode: Marilee's journey to launching a career in destination management, corporate events, and incentive travel The moment in Lisbon that transformed Marilee and her husband Paul's life The importance of storytelling in sharing your brand successfully How Spotlight Sojourns was born of Marilee and Paul's desire to connect pictures, words, and travels and the challenges, they faced launching during a global pandemic Marilee breaks down how the incentive travel niche works and why it's the perfect way to reward, motivate, and inspire An example of a client storyline that Spotlight Sojourns put together to engage the leisure traveler Marilee's five-piece framework for meaningful travel How to think about your destination or attraction as a place that inspires stories and allows visitors to build meaningful relationships with you Travel Through a Different Lens Perspective changes everything — wise words from my guest on the podcast this week led to a fascinating conversation on how she set up a travel business to showcase real travels and authentic experiences creatively. Marilee Kostadimas of Spotlight Sojourns joined me to share how the COVID-19 pandemic cutting short her world travel plans in 2020 actually turned out to be a blessing in disguise. The enforced pause gave her and her husband and business partner Paul the opportunity to figure out their fledgling business on the front end instead of the back end. Marilee describes how she built her career on the power of professional storytelling through shared experiences. She also highlights the importance of understanding what travel really means to people and how to take guests on a journey that inspires them holistically. We discuss how Spotlight Sojourns creates an experience that wows travelers and inspires them to explore and engage with a destination fully. Travel is something that many people are eager to make part of their lives again, and you can make your destination stand out with a story that shines. Marilee steps us through her five-pillar framework of the unique, the exclusive, the wow, the hidden gems, and the quiet in between and how they create an inspiring experience that travelers couldn't do alone. Storytelling to Delight and Engage As travel and tourism professionals, we should be creating a cohesive end-to-end storyline. DMOs can use stories to give another perspective on their destination that isn't falling back on the tried, true, proven, and popular. We need to figure out how to stop talking about meeting space capacity, hotel rooms, and facilities and really tell a compelling story that encompasses the five touchstones of a great travel experience. We need to bring it back to engagement, connections, and relationships — Marilee explains how she does that for destinations like the New York State Canal Corporation. As a DMO, we've always got to keep in mind what the client is really looking for when hosting travel experiences so you can put a storyline together that fulfills the need to motivate and inspire. Finding Your Why Marilee gives her actionable tips on how DMOs and others in the travel and tourism industry can apply her framework to their own destination. We discuss how to get people thinking differently so that they begin to see their area through a different lens. Ask yourself why your destination is special, why you'd recommend visiting your beach, your lake, your hotel, as opposed to the beach, the lake, the hotel down the road — because it's that differentiation that is going to help you tell your authentic story. DMOs need to formulate a plan for the future and design ways that they can draw people in to visit their area and attractions. We represent our communities, so it's important to reach new visitors and build relationships so that those visitors return again and again. Think about how you can leverage a connected storyline that ignites emotion in potential visitors — because when people are invested in your story, it becomes part of their legacy. Resources Website: https://spotlightsojourns.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marileesonneman/ Instagram: instagram.com/spotlightsojourns Facebook: facebook.com/spotlightsojourns

Coming down from Cincinnati, Marketing Manager of Ghost Coast Distillery, Kelcie Beausir, has extensive experience working in the beverage industry, including a recent stop at a winery in Asheville. She is so happy to now be living in warmer weather in Chattanooga, TN, as a part of the Ghost Coast team. Kelcie is a former trapeze instructor who enjoys adventuring with her dog, Charlie, and husband, Cameron. On this episode of Destination on the Left, I talk with Kelcie about her experience as marketing manager for a startup distillery of expanding into new markets during a global pandemic. We discussed the importance of embracing creativity as part of your organizational culture and how collaboration has driven Ghost Coast distillery forward into a period of growth. What You Will Learn in this Episode: What drew Kelcie into the world of marketing, and why she loves the infinite creativity and diversity of opportunity Unique directions that Ghost Coast has taken their marketing in — including puppy yoga! How they have combined sophisticated spirit distilling with the fun vibe of a craft brewery Why Ghost Coast makes so many unique spirits The organizational culture of creativity in every area of the business and how that makes them stand out in the beverage market How they were able to pivot creatively as a small distillery during the COVID-19 pandemic Creative partnerships they got involved with to help themselves and others over the past two years Ghost Coasts current projects and things coming up in the future that they're particularly excited about How their creative approach to promoting the brand has helped them expand into neighboring states Examples of successful collaborations that Ghost Coast has been involved in and how Kelcie's advice on how to set up collaborative partnerships How to Create Successful Partnerships Putting creative partnerships together and forming long-term relationships is a great way to push forward through adversity. Kelcie and Ghost Coast have been working hard on building mutually beneficial relationships, and she joins me today to share her advice on finding brands that your travel and tourism organization could work with. Laying the right groundwork for a successful collaboration is all about promoting your brand and demonstrating how you can help others. Companies in the travel niche are busy, so you need to stand out as an organization with new, different, and special ideas. Kelcie describes the importance of figuring out your creative idea before you approach other brands to let them know how you can benefit them as part of the collaboration. We also dive into why we need to nourish relationships once we've partnered with different brands and why there's nothing worse than just letting the momentum die. Figuring out how to keep working together and building on those collaborations and relationships is so much more helpful and supportive than just one-off events. Creative Culture Ghost Coast Distillery was founded in 2016 and since then has been committed to hiring great minds, bouncing ideas off of each other, and really learning how they wanted the company culture to look. Kelcie describes the evolution of the organizational culture and how it has developed over the years to an open-minded, playful environment where everyone's ideas and suggestions are welcomed. We also talk about how the small team has been able to put together fun events that differentiate themselves from others in their industry, such as puppy yoga and comedy shows, and why that freewheeling spirit has helped them grow and build a reputation in the artisanal spirits space. Opportunities in Adversity Kelcie shares how COVID-19 showed Ghost Coat they had opportunities to deal with the challenges they were facing creatively, personally, and as a company. She describes how they were able to pivot as a small organization and pursue new opportunities that formed the golden lining of their challenges. One of Kelcie's favorite creative solutions was collaborating with others to put on an initiative to safely bring live music back to the company's hometown of Savannah, GA. Ghost Coast partnered with outdoor venues that sold their spirits to create a space where people could safely enjoy live music after the shutdown by enjoying a cocktail picnic style in the park. We also discussed Ghost Coasts's plans for the future — slowly and effectively growing footprint style across the nation, adding members to the team while keeping one foot planted in tradition, one foot pushing boundaries. Resources: Website: https://ghostcoastdistillery.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ghostcoastdistillery/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ghostcoastdistillery/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/ghostcoastdist LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelcie-beausir-a9308a121/ We value your thoughts and feedback and would love to hear from you. Leave us a review on your favorite streaming platform to let us know what you want to hear more of. Here is a quick tutorial on how to leave us a rating and review on iTunes!: https://breaktheicemedia.com/rating-review/

Sarah attended Cornell University's School of Hotel Administration and worked at a 5-star-5-diamond resort in Colorado, a 4,000+ all-suite hotel in Las Vegas, and an international restaurant company in New York City, all before graduating. At age 22, she was the Director of Sales and Marketing for a private resort in Florida. During a brief career in Boston, she managed a 220-seat jazz club in Harvard Square. She then moved back to Vermont and started working with her mom and uncle as the fifth generation of her family to manage Basin Harbor Club. As the Director of Sales, she now describes her role as helping people enjoy all that Basin Harbor has to offer, whether that's a family reunion, a wedding, a group retreat, or a day spent on the Lake. Sarah was also chosen as one of VBM's Rising Stars in Vermont. In her free time, Sarah is a lover of the great outdoors, a gastronome, and a world traveler, and she is also certified as a Wilderness First Responder. On this episode of Destination on the Left, I talk with Sarah Morris, who is passionate about keeping pace with evolving customer expectations while staying true to her 136yr old Vermont resort's brand. She shares her insights on gearing up for each new summer season and why a spirit of collaboration with resorts with opposite seasons helps when successfully hiring new staff. What You Will Learn in this Episode: What it means to Sarah to be the fifth generation host at basin Harbour How the Basin Harbor Resort prepares to crescendo into the summer season and add more than 100 staff to their family How Sarah fosters a sense of creativity and collaboration to stand out from the crowd and differentiate the resort from others Why Sarah is still so passionate about creating a guest experience that allows her visitors to relax and recharge in nature How the Basin Harbor Resort stays actively involved in the tourism and business community Why creativity surges when we're facing adversity and some of the creative ways that Sarah and her team have been able to solve recent problems How a family-focused mindset builds trust with guests and staff Exciting projects that Sarah has planned for the next year or two Sarah's experience of participating in successful collaborations with others in the travel and tourism industry How Guest Expectations Have Evolved What guests are looking for changes as much from year to year as generationally. So in a resort that has been operating for over 100 years, there have been changes over time. Sarah describes the themes that the Basin Harbor Club has carried forward over the years, including being actively involved in the tourism community, as well as the general business community in Vermont, and how that has helped them maintain their family-centered ethos. We discuss the personality of a truly rural campus resort and how the Basin Harbor Club has stayed true to a product that they want to deliver upon experientially for their guests. Of course, it's also important for tourist destinations to keep up with modern sensibilities, so Sarah describes how she has married online accessibility with an atmosphere of allowing people to disconnect from their home life, their work-life, and be very present during their vacation time. Creative Solutions to Challenges When times are tough, as they have been in our industry over the last two years, we have to find creative solutions to help you overcome challenges. Sarah and I dig into some of the ways that she has leveraged the resort's history to understand how to grow through adversity. We also discuss the importance of fostering a sense of 'coopetition,' where perceived competitors come together to do something bigger together than they can do on their own. At Basin Harbor Club, they want to provide an experience that their guests love, and that includes recommending other resorts that might be more suitable for their needs. Sarah dives into what she loves about the willingness to share in the industry and why they love to work with local artisans and food and beverage producers, so they can highlight the region's growers and producers and incorporate that Vermont flavor into their products too. Recruiting New Staff We also take the conversation in the direction of managing a seasonal property and the challenges of scaling from 20 employees in the winter to north of 150 employees in the summer months. Sarah lends her expertise on hiring seasonal staff strategies for scaling up and how she recruits new employees in collaboration with resorts and their current staff. The joy of being a seasonal destination is that you can seek out opportunities to connect with properties that are in opposite seasons and make sure that you are keeping good staff in well-supported roles. Recruiting staff is such a critical part of creating an amazing guest experience, especially in a resort that prides itself on its family feel and counts guests and staff as part of that extended family. Resources: Website: www.basinharbor.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-morris-027541b/ Biz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/basin-harbor-club/

This episode of Destination on the Left is a little different from the norm, and that's because today I'm talking with Tom Ritter, Product Development Lead for the Niche Podcast Network. Tom shares why he is so passionate about podcasting as a marketing tool and why your podcast can help you build an exceptional professional network. We explore the importance of finding your niche, building an engaged audience, and how to offer value to your audience with your unique perspective. Tom also gives his insight into creating an exceptional guest experience so that you get the most out of the conversation. What You Will Learn in this Episode: How Tom got hooked into innovative ways to market The importance of niching down as a podcaster and gaining authority as an expert in your industry How Tom and Nicole connected and why they wanted to share their conversation on how podcasts work as a marketing tool Why it's essential to have a system in place that sets someone up to be successful on a podcast How to make the guest experience positive, so you have a productive conversation Why having an outline for your show helps you stay focused and get the most out of an interview The digital equity of profiting from the podcast How to leverage your podcast as a sales and referral marketing tool Niching Down as a Podcaster Podcasting is a quicker path to trust-building when you can really niche down and be that subject matter expert. My guest on the show this week is Tom Ritter, who owns and operates Niche Podcast Network, and I'm excited to share out conversation. The show this week is a little different as we're discussing how to set up and host a successful podcast, and Tom's advice on gaining digital equity with your show is so valuable. We dive deep into the idea of niching down with your podcast and moving from serving a broad audience to a much narrower yet more engaged one. Tom shares how to identify and build authority in a niche and why focusing on a particular topic within your umbrella helps you earn trust and become a legitimate subject matter expert quicker. We also discuss how a podcast can act as a signpost back to your brand when you focus your show on a consistent and frequent message that builds listeners' trust. Creating a Positive Guest Experience In terms of having a productive conversation with your guest, comfort is key. As a podcaster, you have the ability to set the scene for a great interview, but you also have to have processes in place. Let your guest know what to expect ahead of time and give them an idea of the show's format and outline what you want to talk about. Having enough information to be comfortable goes a long way in creating an environment where an authentic conversation that genuinely serves your customers can flourish. You might envision your podcast as a candid chat as if you were having an off-air coffee, but the reality is that a great podcast takes preparation. Having an outline helps the host, guest, and audience stay focused during the show itself. Guests often feel calmer and more prepared when they can make notes before they get on the show. But, if you have an outline or questions you want to ask, give yourself the flexibility to deviate from the plan, should the guest take you in a different direction. Relaxed spontaneity often offers up great opportunities to dig deep into the juicy subjects. Delivering Value Your podcast delivers value to your listeners as you delve into some of those fascinating subjects, but how does it offer value for your guests? Appearing on a podcast as a subject matter expert gives people excellent visibility in their field. The more focus you put on your guest, the more value your guest perceives, and the more value you receive as a host because you're going to be found for your name and your brand. Create social media artwork, send snippets of the show for their LinkedIn profile, and link to guests' social media channels so your listeners can find out more. Because what you're also doing when you grow visibility for your guest is growing it for your show and your business. Resources: Podcast: https://breaktheicemedia.com/podcasts/karolina-guilcapi/ Website: www.nichepodcast.net Email: tom@nichepodcast.net

On this episode of Destination on the Left, I talk with Todd Stallbaumer. He shares his experience working to promote tourism in Oklahoma as the Consumer and Trade Marketing Director for the Oklahoma Tourism and Recreation Department. We discuss the importance of finding your claims and how determining them can help you stand out. Todd also discusses the importance of culture and diversity and how recognizing and respecting that can open travelers up to a new and unique experience. Lastly, we cover the importance of finding commonality and how that can lead to meaningful connections and lasting partnerships. What You Will Learn in this Episode: The importance of finding your claims and how doing so can help your destination stand out and attract the right audience Understanding the big picture and how that can lead to success How to use anniversaries and the attention they garner to launch ongoing opportunities for attraction instead Todd's view on diversity and exploring community and how they are highlighting that in Oklahoma to create new tourism opportunities How Todd found his "Dynamic Destination" group and why it's so important to find commonality with others What makes Oklahoman excellent spot for tourists and how you can learn more about the state and all it has to offer Finding Your Claims Have you ever traveled somewhere and expected one thing based on what you'd seen on TV or heard about the place and experienced something completely different? So many travelers have preconceived notions about destinations and what they expect to see when they get there. This week, my guest on the Destination on the Left podcast is Todd Stallbaumer, Consumer and Trade Marketing Director for the Oklahoma Tourism and Recreation Department. Todd learned very quickly that many people had stereotypes for what they expected Oklahoma to look like. In the episode, we dive into how he tries to reimagine those stereotypes to create an entirely different experience for travelers. We dive into how Todd found Oklahoma's claim. In other words, he explains how he came to find what sets Oklahoma apart from other places. What you'll be interested to know is that it's the state's diversity and culture that make it a unique place to visit. Todd explains how he is utilizing the state's culture to drive new and exciting tourism opportunities for visitors to dive into the various communities found in Oklahoma. Finding Commonality Toward the end of the podcast, we dive into Todd's ability to find commonality with a really unique set of people. While this group of people lives all across America in very different states, they have found very specific criteria that put them in the same circle. It was so interesting to hear from Todd how they came to form this group and how he was able to find these very niche commonalities that have led to such a resourceful and helpful partnership. Todd and I dive into the details of his dynamic group and how they use their commonalities to help each other. From sharing connections, resources, problems, and sales pitches, this team has helped each other's states and cities find new ways to draw tourism. And, through these commonalities, they are able to refer travelers to each other and make connections with other similar travel destinations as they grow. Resources: www.travelok.com

Rhonda Carges is VP Operations & Senior Consultant at Break the Ice Media. Rhonda brings more than 25 years of sales, new business development, and travel trade experience to the table. This translates into great partnership strategies and creative thinking for our clients. Rhonda is a master at creating relationships, and her deep understanding of the industry helps her create win-win opportunities for her clients. Rhonda and her team often act as a much-needed sales and marketing arm for Convention and Visitors Bureaus (CVBs), providing travel trade marketing, program management, partnership development, tracking, and reporting to the mix. She's a forward-thinker who always knows where the market is headed – and how best to capitalize on those trends in the moment. Adena Miller is a Consultant for Break the Ice Media. Adena brings the art of storytelling to her role as Consultant at Break the Ice Media. As a young child, her parents' art gallery often set the scene for her creative writing, and she later went on to develop her craft as a college newspaper reporter. Weber Shandwick Chicago allowed her to hone her public relations skills across several national food and beverage accounts, and she has the windy city to thank for being transformed into a self-proclaimed foodie. A grant recipient to pursue a travel, food, and wine writing seminar in Saint-Émilion, France, further ignited her passion for wine and travel. She brings more than 15 years of public relations expertise to Break the Ice Media, where she develops media, blog, newsletter, and social content and executes event planning. Lisa Doerner is a Senior Consultant for Break the Ice Media and the Executive Director of Travel Alliance Partners. Lisa's background is in marketing and operations, but her path into the travel and tourism industry is an unusual one. She started her career working for a large corporation in product marketing and then working as the Executive Director for a technology association. These roles set the groundwork for her current position as Executive Director for Travel Alliance Partners (TAP), a corporation focused on connecting tour operators, travel buyers, and suppliers. Lisa leads the TAP management team in developing operational and marketing strategies to help Travel Alliance Partners strengthen their partnerships, increase their businesses and expand their company tour portfolios. The past couple of years have found Lisa and her team reimagining how they can deliver a quality travel industry conference and marketing initiatives to TAP's audiences despite the challenges facing the travel industry. On this episode of Destination on the Left this week, I have a slightly different show format for you. I have been reflecting on how much the travel and tourism industry has been through in the last two years. Different destinations and industry segments have had markedly different challenges; for some, 2021 was a bumper year but for others. 2021 was another year of struggle and record low numbers. The changing state of the pandemic is felt quickly in our industry, and 2021 has seen unprecedented highs and lows. So, today, I decided to invite three team members from the Break the Ice Media team onto the show to share their perspectives and experiences as we enter into the subsequent recovery phase. I'm so excited to be joined on the show by Adena Miller, Lisa Doerner, and Rhonda Carges as we ponder both what the future holds and how we can take lessons learned during difficult times forward to serve and support the travel and tourism industry. What You Will Learn in This Episode: How the tour and travel segment have kept up their forward momentum, even with so many obstacles in their path Rhonda shares her perspective as a supplier on how to be a good partner our tour operator partners How Adena has seen travel buyers, advisors and agents respond during this challenging time Where we should focus in 2022, as the travel and tourism segment continues to recover from the point of suppliers, travel buyers, and tour operators How to tap into your local tourism office or destination marketing organization for support and collaboration The importance of leveraging technology to streamline processes and make travelers' experiences stress-free Ways the Break the Ice team are working to help with recovery and the projects that Rhonda, Adena, and Lisa are involved in to support the travel and tourism industry What the Bookable Product Programme offers to clients and how it can help with recovery Lessons Learned in 2021 On speaking to the team, both during this discussion and more widely over the past few months, the importance of staying connected with people has been highlighted again and again. Talking with Adena Miller, a Consultant for Break the Ice Media, reminded me why it is essential to foster a deeper connection, even when we can't meet in person by sharing pictures or stories. Within the Break the Ice Media team and with our clients and partners, we found that the willingness to be open, vulnerable, and honest made a huge difference in staying positive and looking to the future. In 2021 we saw some amazing and successful out-of-the-box thinking; Rhonda Carges, VP Operations & Senior Consultant at Break the Ice Media, joined me on the podcast this week to share her experience of embracing new ideas over the last few months. We discuss how travel and tour operators pivoted to provide online events and conferences that allowed people to 'meet' and make connections in a new way. The past two years' uncertainty and adversity have embedded the mindset of growing when times are tough and seeing opportunity in difficulty. Moving Forward in 2022 Lisa Doerner, a Senior Consultant at Break the Ice Media and the Executive Director of Travel Alliance Partners, also joined me this week on the show. We really dug into the role of a leader in the travel sector and why all of us have learned and developed more than we ever imagined possible. Lisa describes how one of the things that stood out to her was that negativity and discouragement could spread across an organization quickly and why the leadership must stay positive, despite uncertainty about the future. Our industry is resilient, and people will continue to travel, but going forward, we will have to embrace change with open arms to be successful. Rhonda describes why suppliers need to be flexible and communicative and look for opportunities to collaborate as we move into recovery in 2022. It's all about thinking about how we can work together; rather than working in silos, seek out the competition because your neighbor can end up being your biggest asset. People are so ready to get back out there in 2022, and wherever we fit in the travel and tourism industry we can be a continued source of inspiration for our clients and get creative with the types of trips and experiences that travelers are craving. Resources https://www.tapintotravel.com/ https://www.onlinetraveltraining.com/us/ Bookable Product Creation Lisa Doerner – Lisa@travelalliancepartners.com Rhonda Carges – Rhonda@breaktheicemedia.com Adena Miller – Adena@breaktheicemedia.com