

Words & Numbers
Words & Numbers touches on issues of Economics, Political Science, Current Events and Policy. Each Wednesday we'll be sharing a new Words & Numbers podcast featuring Antony Davies Ph.D and James Harrigan Ph.D talking about the economics and political science of current events.
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Jan 22, 2026 • 43min
Episode 491: Redistrict This!
Explore the blurred lines of AI as it aids in troubleshooting while raising concerns about deepfakes and image ownership. Debate the Smithsonian's controversial removal of Trump’s impeachment mention and delve into the complexities of gerrymandering and political representation. Examine the urban-rural divide in politics, the ongoing challenges of census accuracy, and the implications of election denial. Finally, consider the rising political tensions and economic anxieties shaping American society.

Jan 20, 2026 • 49min
Episode 490: We’re Not Interested
Explore the absurdity of TSA rules that often prioritize optics over actual safety. Discover how ticket scalping reveals true market demand, and why attempts to regulate it can backfire. Delve into the implications of Trump's proposed credit card interest cap, including how such policies may harm consumers. The conversation highlights how misguided regulations often lead to unintended consequences, ultimately affecting access and choice in everyday financial matters.

Jan 15, 2026 • 48min
Episode 489: Better off a Loan
Dive into a fun discussion about Peru granting legal rights to stingless bees and the costs of expanding rights. Explore the skilled labor shortage as Ford struggles to find mechanics and the unintended consequences of Seattle's vacancy tax. Unpack common misconceptions about loans, interest rates, and how student loans create moral hazards. Learn about credit scores and why understanding them can save you money. Plus, discover how financial systems resemble insurance, pooling resources to mitigate risk in everyday life.

Jan 13, 2026 • 40min
Episode 488: Iran, Iran So Far Away
In this episode, we challenge claims about economic stagnation by examining how interest, investing, and long-term saving actually shape wealth and retirement outcomes, including what it takes to reach a million dollars on different income levels. We then turn to public health, discussing the failures of the original food pyramid, the rise of snacking and carbohydrates, and the proper role of government as an information provider rather than an enforcer. In the “foolishness of the week,” we look at New York City’s expanding housing bureaucracy and why rent control continues to worsen affordability. We close with an in-depth discussion of Iran’s nationwide protests, internet shutdowns, water shortages, and the geopolitical consequences of a potential post-theocratic Iran for the Middle East and beyond.
00:00 Introduction and Overview
00:25 The “52 Years to Escape the Middle Class” Myth
02:29 What It Takes to Retire With $1 Million
04:25 Saving on Median vs. Bottom-Income Earnings
06:15 Narratives About Stagnation vs. Financial Reality
07:10 The New Food Pyramid and RFK Jr.’s Role
08:53 Why the Original Food Pyramid Failed
11:04 Government as Information Provider vs. Enforcer
13:04 Foolishness of the Week: NYC’s New Housing Bureaucracy
16:06 Rent Control and Why It Makes Housing Worse
17:46 Iran’s Nationwide Protests and Media Silence
20:26 Why Theocracies Look Strongest Before Collapse
22:02 Internet Shutdowns and Regime Panic in Iran
24:08 Why Mainstream News Isn’t Covering the Story
26:31 What a Post-Theocracy Iran Could Look Like
31:11 Iran’s Looming Water Crisis
34:07 Geopolitical Fallout for Russia and the Middle East
36:24 Final Thoughts on Regime Change and Human Cost Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 8, 2026 • 1h 13min
Episode 487: Is It The Economy, Stupid?
In this episode, we reflect on a rare missed recording and share a series of listener stories that raise broader questions about compassion, responsibility, and civic duty. We examine claims surrounding illegal orders in the military and the role of oaths and institutional accountability before turning to the “foolishness of the week,” including the internet’s ability to amplify extremism and reward outrage. We then shift to why Americans consistently believe the economy is doing worse than the data suggests, exploring consumer sentiment, inflation, wages, housing costs, and the lingering psychological effects of pandemic-era stimulus. We close by discussing housing as both shelter and investment, the realities of rent and mortgage affordability, student loan debt, rising expectations, and why economic anxiety persists even in periods of growth.
00:00 Introduction and Overview
00:31 Missing an Episode for the First Time
02:28 Listener Gift and Firefighter Calendar Story
03:52 A Belated Christmas Story of Compassion
07:13 Mark Kelly, Illegal Orders, and Military Oaths
12:40 Foolishness of the Week: Nazi Dating Sites
15:08 The “Village Idiot” Theory and the Internet
18:07 Why Americans Think the Economy Is Terrible
22:08 Consumer Sentiment vs. Economic Data
24:37 Inflation, Wages, and Why It Still Feels Worse
29:27 COVID Stimulus Effects and Income Perception
33:30 Housing Costs, Rent, and Homeownership Myths
37:10 Mortgage Rates, Rent Increases, and Risk
41:04 Housing as Shelter vs. Housing as Investment
45:29 Why People Still Can’t Afford Homes
48:33 Social Media, Expectations, and Lifestyle Inflation
51:02 Student Loan Debt and the Real Affordability Crisis
55:14 College Costs, Tradeoffs, and Financial Reality
57:44 Expectations, Advertising, and Economic Anxiety
01:00:40 Why Consumer Sentiment May Never Fully Recover Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 1, 2026 • 48min
Episode 486: Slavery and Capitalism
In this episode, we discuss public distrust of politicians and the realities behind presidential approval polling before turning to the math of lotteries and why people continue to play despite the odds. We examine Maryland’s proposed reparations commission, including questions of eligibility, funding, legal responsibility, and the practical challenges of tying modern policy to historical injustice. We’re joined by Phil Magness to explore the economic history of slavery, the claim that capitalism was built on slave labor, and why slavery is fundamentally incompatible with free markets. We cover Adam Smith’s opposition to slavery, misconceptions about profit incentives, the global history of forced labor, and the moral and economic failures surrounding emancipation, closing with a broader discussion of capitalism, socialism, and historical accountability.
00:00 Introduction and Overview
00:44 Presidential Approval Ratings and Polling Reality
02:38 Why Americans Have Always Hated Politicians
03:35 Powerball, Probability, and the Math of Dreaming
06:51 Maryland’s Reparations Commission Explained
08:12 Who Pays and Who Gets Reparations?
10:03 Mitigation, Law, and the Reparations Problem
14:24 Introducing Phil Magness
15:02 Was Capitalism Built on Slavery?
17:59 Slavery as an Ancient Institution
19:50 Adam Smith’s Case Against Slavery
23:05 Why Slavery Is Anti-Capitalist
24:50 Pro-Slavery Economics and Feudalism
26:16 Founding Fathers, Hypocrisy, and Moral Failure
30:21 Slavery’s Global History and Misconceptions
32:06 Incentives, Profit, and Economic Naivety
34:53 Would Slavery Have Ended Without the Civil War?
37:59 Gradual Emancipation and Historical Alternatives
40:47 Socialism, Capitalism, and the Plantation Model
44:01 Final Reflections and Closing Thoughts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 30, 2025 • 1h 7min
Episode 485: R.I.P. Heritage Foundation
In this episode, we examine the realities behind universal health care by looking at Canada’s system, wait times, medical tourism, and cases where patients are denied life-saving treatment. We discuss the rise of weight-loss drugs like Ozempic and Wegovy, the economics behind high drug prices, and why “miracle” medications often create new dependencies and unintended costs. We scrutinize airline incivility, declining standards of behavior, and why airlines are reluctant to enforce norms despite growing problems. Phil Magness also joins us to discuss the internal collapse of the Heritage Foundation, the rise of post-liberal conservatism, and the growing influence of figures like Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes. We explore tensions within the Republican Party, the appeal of emergency powers on both the left and right, the dangers of mixing religion with state authority, and what these trends mean for the future of American politics.
00:00 Introduction and Overview
00:28 Canadian Health Care and the Myth of “Free” Medicine
02:38 When Universal Health Care Denies Life-Saving Treatment
04:50 Wait Times, Medical Tourism, and U.S. vs Canada Outcomes
06:16 Ozempic, Wegovy, and the Economics of Weight-Loss Drugs
08:52 Why Expensive Drugs Create Cheaper Alternatives
10:05 Side Effects, Dependency, and the Cost of “Miracle” Drugs
10:36 Airline Incivility and Delta’s Class-Based Explanation
12:28 Why Airlines Refuse to Enforce Behavioral Standards
13:52 Why Flying Is Cheaper Than Ever (and Why That Matters)
15:22 Horror Stories From the Skies
18:07 Introducing Phil Magness
19:14 The Implosion of the Heritage Foundation
22:34 Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuentes, and the Post-Liberal Right
25:24 Mass Resignations and the Collapse of Heritage’s Core
28:52 Post-Liberalism and the Rejection of the American Founding
32:00 Is the Republican Party Fracturing?
34:34 Mike Pence and the Future of Free-Market Conservatism
37:08 The Left and Right’s Shared Authoritarian Instincts
39:21 Emergency Powers, Carl Schmitt, and Executive Absolutism
44:06 Why Emergency Government Always Expands
46:58 Christian Nationalism and Catholic Integralism
50:03 Why Religion and State Power Don’t Mix
52:12 Who Really Wants Political Power?
54:52 Trump as a Lame-Duck President
55:45 JD Vance, 2028, and Electoral Reality
58:11 Why Both Parties Keep Nominating Losers
01:02:27 Conclusion Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 25, 2025 • 49min
Episode 484: Geezer Presidents
In this episode, we examine what actually counts as a victimless crime and why the term is so often misused, using examples ranging from seatbelt and helmet laws to drugs, prostitution, and software piracy. We discuss how insurance markets price risk more effectively than regulation, and why many so-called crimes are really paperwork violations with no direct victims. We also look at the limits of automation through recent failures in self-driving technology, and highlight the Foolishness of the Week involving ideological monocultures in academia and the incentives that sustain them. The conversation then turns to the main topic of whether there should be an age limit for the presidency, weighing cognitive decline, longevity, institutional incentives, and why existing safeguards like the 25th Amendment rarely function as intended.
00:00 Introduction and Overview
00:29 What Counts as a Victimless Crime?
01:38 Insurance, Risk, and Who Really Pays
04:36 Drugs, Prostitution, and True Victimless Crimes
06:26 Regulatory Crimes vs Real Human Harm
07:53 Software Piracy and Intellectual Property
12:38 Waymo, Power Outages, and Self-Driving Failures
14:49 Foolishness of the Week: Academic Monocultures in Academia
17:10 Personal Stories of Academic Censorship
20:39 Main Topic: Should Presidents Have an Age Limit?
21:41 Biden, Trump, and Cognitive Decline
24:39 Living Longer, Dementia, and Modern Leadership Risks
29:34 Age Limits in Other Professions
33:00 The Age of Past Presidents When Initially Elected
37:35 Which Presidents Would Have Survived a Term Age Limit?
39:33 The 25th Amendment and Why It Rarely Works
40:57 Incentives, Power, and Presidential Succession
43:53 Closing Thoughts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 23, 2025 • 1h
Episode 483: We Love Inequality
In this episode, we look at what happens when artificial intelligence is put in charge of real-world systems, starting with an experiment in automated pricing and what it reveals about incentives, scarcity, and control. We turn to Denmark’s decision to shut down its national postal service, using it to examine the decline of physical mail, environmental tradeoffs, and why government monopolies struggle to compete with private delivery. We highlight the week’s “foolishness,” including the rise of competitive spreadsheet championships, before turning to a broader discussion about inequality. We examine IQ distributions, bell curves, and why inequality is often confused with poverty, exploring the limits of measures like the Gini coefficient, the difference between snapshot and lifetime earnings, and the role of incentives, envy, and value creation. We close by contrasting equality of opportunity with equality of outcome and asking what societies should actually care about when assessing fairness and prosperity.
00:00 Introduction and Overview
00:27 AI Runs a Vending Machine at the Wall Street Journal
01:52 When AI Meets Communism and Price Controls
03:52 Why AI Isn’t Replacing Humans Anytime Soon
04:32 Denmark Shuts Down Its Postal Service
06:11 Is Physical Mail Environmentally Absurd?
07:39 Why the Postal Service Can’t Compete
11:43 The Foolishness of the Week: Excel World Championships
13:25 Are Spreadsheets More Important Than Football?
15:08 Main Topic Setup: Should We Care About Inequality?
16:13 IQ, Bell Curves, and Random Distributions
23:05 Why Inequality Is Not the Same as Poverty
25:36 The Gini Coefficient and Its Limits
28:57 Sports, Superstars, and Value Creation
38:00 Taxes, Transfers, and the Illusion of Inequality
41:57 Lifetime Earnings vs Snapshot Inequality
45:14 Equality of Opportunity vs Equality of Outcome
49:30 Envy, Incentives, and Human Motivation
53:38 Closing Thoughts on Inequality and Society Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 18, 2025 • 49min
Episode 482: The Evolution of Crime
In this episode, we revisit the debate over restricting social media access for children, responding to listener feedback and examining why parental responsibility alone can’t address the scale of the problem. We discuss proposals for age verification, the risks of digital ID systems, and how privacy and surveillance concerns are often dismissed with the claim that people have “nothing to hide.” We then turn to California’s energy situation, looking at refinery closures, the Jones Act, and why state climate policies have little impact on global emissions while driving higher fuel costs. We examine a lawsuit involving Donald Trump and the BBC, followed by the week’s “foolishness” surrounding the Oscars’ move to YouTube. Our main discussion explores the concept of victimless crime, how outdated laws persist long after society moves on, what entrepreneurship signals about obsolete regulations, and why enforcement-heavy approaches to poverty, drugs, and everyday behavior continue to fail.
00:00 Introduction and Overview
01:02 Listener Feedback on Social Media Bans for Kids
02:06 Why Parenting Alone Cannot Solve the Social Media Problem
03:16 Age Verification and the Push Toward Digital ID
04:43 Privacy, Surveillance, and Why “Nothing to Hide” Fails
06:45 How Governments Can Abuse Data in the Future
07:20 California Refinery Closures and Energy Reality
08:13 The Jones Act and Why California Imports Fuel from Abroad
11:02 Why California’s Climate Policies Barely Affect Global CO2
13:00 Trump’s Lawsuit Against the BBC
14:27 Why Trump Would Have to Testify Under Oath
15:34 Foolishness of the Week: The Oscars Move to YouTube
17:42 Main Topic Setup: Victimless Crime and Enforcement
18:36 Entrepreneurship as a Signal That Laws Are Obsolete
20:47 Blue Laws, Alcohol, and How Societies Outgrow Bad Rules
24:27 Are There Any Victimless Crimes Left?
28:42 Speed Limits and Everyday Criminality
31:28 Is Government the Evolution of Crime?
34:31 The Cash Benchmark Test Explained
36:20 Why the War on Poverty Failed
40:16 The True Cost of the War on Drugs
43:55 Why Freedom No Longer Drives Policy
45:31 Closing Reflections and Final Thoughts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices


