

Securely Attached
Dr. Sarah Bren
Securely Attached is your go-to parenting podcast, supporting moms and dads from pregnancy all the way through their child's adolescence and every stage in between.
Join us every Tuesday as clinical psychologist and mom of two Dr. Sarah Bren shares her expertise and interviews top experts in the field, simplifying complicated concepts and pulling back the curtain on the brain science and psychology that drives and shapes the parent-child relationship.
And now, every Thursday, Dr. Sarah Bren is joined by Dr. Emily Upshur and Dr. Rebecca Hershberg for a special segment, Beyond The Sessions. We're answering YOUR parenting questions from the perspective of clinical psychologists highly trained in developmental science and real-life moms who get that parenting is messy, and sometimes we have to laugh, cry, and throw out the "rules."
From toddler tantrums, to effective discipline strategies, to leaning into the principles of respectful parenting, and to managing your own mental wellness as a parentβthis podcast is your ultimate resource for judgment-free, research-backed information you know you can trust.
About Sarah Bren, PhD
Dr. Sarah Bren is a licensed clinical psychologist and mom of two who helps parents understand the building blocks of child development and how secure relationships form and thrive. Her work is focused on helping parents find their inner confidence so they can respond to any parenting problem that comes along and raise kids who are healthy, resilient, and kind.
Join us every Tuesday as clinical psychologist and mom of two Dr. Sarah Bren shares her expertise and interviews top experts in the field, simplifying complicated concepts and pulling back the curtain on the brain science and psychology that drives and shapes the parent-child relationship.
And now, every Thursday, Dr. Sarah Bren is joined by Dr. Emily Upshur and Dr. Rebecca Hershberg for a special segment, Beyond The Sessions. We're answering YOUR parenting questions from the perspective of clinical psychologists highly trained in developmental science and real-life moms who get that parenting is messy, and sometimes we have to laugh, cry, and throw out the "rules."
From toddler tantrums, to effective discipline strategies, to leaning into the principles of respectful parenting, and to managing your own mental wellness as a parentβthis podcast is your ultimate resource for judgment-free, research-backed information you know you can trust.
About Sarah Bren, PhD
Dr. Sarah Bren is a licensed clinical psychologist and mom of two who helps parents understand the building blocks of child development and how secure relationships form and thrive. Her work is focused on helping parents find their inner confidence so they can respond to any parenting problem that comes along and raise kids who are healthy, resilient, and kind.
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Mar 20, 2025 β’ 25min
Q&A: How can I help my child who's scared every small injury is an emergency?
Beyond the Sessions is answering YOUR parenting questions! In this episode, Dr. Rebecca Hershberg and I talk about... - What to do when your reassurances to your child doesn't help soothe their anxiety. - A sample script of the type of thing you can say (and wait to try to avoid saying) to help your child believe that they can cope with the feeling of anxiety. - When our good intentions go bad - some of the most common "mistakes" parents make when navigating their child's anxiety. - Understanding the difference between temporarily soothing your child's fears and using a more effective long-term solution. - Is it anxiety? The questions to ask yourself to help you determine if your child is experiencing anxiety beyond a normative level. - How to tell your child you are going to start doing things differently when they start feeling anxious. - Should you respond differently when your child's anxiety is fueled by something that is possible (like a medical misdiagnosis) rather than something we as adults know are impossible (like a monster under the bed)? REFERENCES AND RELATED RESOURCES: π§ Listen to my podcast episode with Eli Lebowitz about SPACE (Supportive Parenting for Anxious Childhood Emotions) that he developed ππ» If you're interested in exploring SPACE and the treatment options for childhood anxiety, CLICK HERE to learn about the support options at Upshur Bren Psychology Group or SCHEDULE A FREE CALL to learn more about the available resources for your unique needs. ADDITIONAL PODCAST EPISODES YOU MAY LIKE: π§ Listen to my podcast episode about managing your child's separation anxiety π§ Listen to my podcast episode about that will help your determine when it's time to seek support managing your child's anxiety π§ Listen to my podcast episode about school refusal with Dr. Erica Miller WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU: Go to https://drsarahbren.com/question to send us a question or a topic you want to hear us answer on Securely Attached - Beyond the Sessions!

Mar 18, 2025 β’ 47min
Self sacrifice, mom-guilt, and martyrdom in motherhood: Fighting against the pressure to be perfect with Gayane Aramyan
In this episode, licensed marriage and family therapist Gayane Aramyan joins me to unpack the "perfect mom" pressure so many of us contend with on a daily basis. In this episode we cover: - Why our expectations of motherhood often don't match realityβand how to stop blaming ourselves when they don't. - The hidden ways control fuels anxiety and overwhelm, and how loosening our grip can make parenting easier. - The power of flexibility in parenting, and why giving yourself permission to adapt can be a game-changer. - What to do when you reach a stage of your child's development that you simply don't enjoy. - The key support systems to have in place before entering motherhood to make the transition smoother. - The differences we're seeing with millennial mothers from what has been considered norms of the past. - How to know when the mom-guilt you feel is getting in the way of your parenting and strategies for challenging it. If you've ever felt like you're falling short of the motherhood ideal, this conversation is here to remind you: You don't have to be perfectβyou just have to be you. LEARN MORE ABOUT GAYANE: https://www.therapywithgayane.com/ FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM: π±@therapywithgayane π± @drsarahbren CHECK OUT ADDITIONAL PODCAST EPISODES YOU MAY LIKE: π§ Breaking the perfectionist mold: How embracing the messy middle is healthier for you and your kids with Monica Packer π§ Motherhood as a Millennial: Tuning out the noise and learning to find trust in ourselves with Marcella Kelson π§ Social anxiety in parenthood: Navigating play dates, mom-friends, and putting yourself out there with Justine Carino

Mar 13, 2025 β’ 20min
Q&A: My 5-year-old has been clingy and hyperfocused on one friend, is this normal?
Beyond the Sessions is answering YOUR parenting questions! In this episode, Dr. Rebecca Hershberg and I talk about... - Dr. Sarah and Dr. Rebecca sympathize with this mom and reflects on how great it would be if we could choose our kid's friends - but offer a mindset shift for why that actually wouldn't be healthy. - Who to turn to for support to help you determine what your best course of action might be. - A statement you can say to your child that can help you begin to understand why they may be exhibiting more clingy behaviors. - How to get to the root of your own anxieties and fears so you can determine what you might be projecting onto your kids versus what are actual issues they need support navigating. - What to avoid saying to your child that may unintentionally cause them to pull away from you. - A formula you can use (that works with children of all ages!) to help you know whether the questions you are asking your child will likely be helpful or may lead to increased pressure. ADDITIONAL PODCAST EPISODES YOU MAY LIKE: π§ Listen to my podcast episode about fostering secure attachments in peer relationships with Dr. Eileen Kennedy-Moore π§ Listen to my podcast episode about peer rejection π§ Listen to my podcast episode that will help you empower your daughter with media, body image, and societal pressures with Dr. Jo-Ann Finkelstein WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU: Go to https://drsarahbren.com/question to send us a question or a topic you want to hear us answer on Securely Attached - Beyond the Sessions!

Mar 11, 2025 β’ 60min
Parenting after complex trauma: A mother's journey toward healing in parenthood with Stephanie Foo
When journalist and author Stephanie Foo was diagnosed with Complex Post-traumatic Stress Disorder (C-PTSD), she left her job and devoted herself to healingβa journey she chronicled in her bestselling memoir, What My Bones Know. Now, as a mother, she's navigating what it means to parent with complex trauma, balancing the high-alert nervous system that comes with C-PTSD while trying to stay present for her child. In this powerful conversation, Stephanie shares: - The difference between PTSD and C-PTSDβand why relational healing is essential for many forms of trauma. - How motherhood reshapes the brain and why it can trigger fight-or-flight responses. - The unique challenges of rupture and repair with a child versus an adult. - Why parents with complex trauma may struggle with isolation and finding a supportive community can be so helpful. - The strategies that have helped Stephanie most, all of which are useful for any parent, with or without trauma. If you've ever felt like parenting is unearthing deep, unresolved parts of yourself, this episode offers both insight and hope. LEARN MORE ABOUT STEPHANIE: https://www.stephaniefoo.me/ READ STEPHANIE'S BOOK: π What My Bones Know: A Memoir of Healing from Complex Trauma FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM: π±@foofoofoo π± @drsarahbren ADDITIONAL REFERENCES AND RESOURCES: Why the "Still-Face" Experiment Was a Game-Changer The Strange Situation CHECK OUT ADDITIONAL PODCAST EPISODES YOU MAY LIKE: π§ 186. Using presence as the antidote to trauma: How we begin to break cycles with Dr. Jacob Ham π§ 204. The science of "mom-rage" and how to use mindfulness as a tool for being less reactive with Diana Winston π§ 272. Maternal health, dyadic work, and IFS: Why specialized mental healthcare providers matter with Rebecca Geshuri and Paige Bellenbaum

Mar 6, 2025 β’ 26min
Q&A: Is my guilt over being a working mom hurting my parenting?
Beyond the Sessions is answering YOUR parenting questions! In this episode, Dr. Rebecca Hershberg and I talk about... - Dr. Sarah and Dr. Rebecca debate whether mom-guilt is inherent to all mothers or a societally structured construct (Spoiler: Dr. Rebecca wins this battle!) - The critical distinction between distress and guilt and why one can be a destructive grenade in parenting. - Releasing guilt is a form of activism - we're explaining why. - How to course correct once you've noticed you're parenting from a space of guilt. - The question to ask yourself that can help guide your behaviors as a parent that come from a place of attunement and trust, rather than guilt or fear. - Using a "values-driven" distinction to help you determine the root reasons you are making certain decisions, and how bringing this into your consciousness can be helpful. ADDITIONAL PODCAST EPISODES YOU MAY LIKE: π§ Listen to my podcast episode about turning parenthood into a career asset with Lauren Smith Brody π§ Listen to my podcast episode about managing working parent guilt with Daisy Dowling π§ Listen to my podcast episode about balancing parenthood, partnership, and work with Dr. Yael Schonbrun WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU: Go to https://drsarahbren.com/question to send us a question or a topic you want to hear us answer on Securely Attached - Beyond the Sessions!

Mar 4, 2025 β’ 57min
Empowering girls to navigate media, body image, and societal pressures with Dr. Jo-Ann Finkelstein
Girls are often sent messages that can leave them feeling unseen, unheard, and boxed in by societal expectations. How can we as parents help them challenge these limiting narratives and grow into their full potential? In this episode, I'm joined by Dr. Jo-Ann Finkelstein to explore: - How societal norms shape girls' self-perception, from the "pink frilly dress" phase to body image struggles in their teens. - Research statistics that will blow your mind on everything from when gender bias begins, how widespread it is, and its impact on everything from what parents Google to how often girls and boys are called on in school. - How to examine and confront the gender stereotypes we unknowingly pass on to our kids when so much of it is unconscious. - Practical strategies to help kids understand and navigate the societal messages they encounter. Including a simple yet powerful hack for challenging gender roles when reading children's books. - Actionable advice for fostering resilience and confidence in girls, as well as how to teach boys to work alongside girls to combat toxic masculinity. If you want to help your kids break free from limiting narratives and thrive as their authentic selves, this episode is a must-listen! LEARN MORE ABOUT DR. JO-ANN: https://www.joannfinkelstein.com/ READ DR. JO-ANN'S BOOK: π Sexism & Sensibility: Raising Empowered, Resilient Girls in the Modern World JOIN JO-ANN'S SUBSTACK: π The Feminist Parent FOLLOW US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: π±@joannfinkelstein.phd @joannfinkelstein.phd π±@drsarahbren ADDITIONAL REFERENCES AND RESOURCES: πΊ Ada Twist, Scientist πΊ Vida the Vet CHECK OUT ADDITIONAL PODCAST EPISODES YOU MAY LIKE: π§ Secure attachment vs. social media: Navigating their effects on body image from early childhood to teen years with Dr. Miriam Steele π§ How can I parent my daughter so she doesn't become a people pleaser? π§ Raising emotionally intelligent sons: Parenting boys to combat "toxic masculinity" with Ruth Whippman

Feb 27, 2025 β’ 19min
Q&A: When is the best time to tell my toddler that I'm pregnant?
Beyond the Sessions is answering YOUR parenting questions! In this episode, Dr. Rebecca Hershberg, Dr. Emily Upshur, and I talk about... - Exactly when we'd recommend you tell your child that you're pregnant. - Why it's important to help your child make sense of what is happening in their lifeβand the conclusions they can jump to if we don't share things (in a developmentally appropriate manner) with them. - A conversation starter and basic script you can use to introduce this concept to your young child. - How these dynamics can change depending on if it's the second, third, or fourth baby you're welcoming. - The types of topics you want to try to cover (and which ones to try to avoid) when you first tell your child you are pregnant. ADDITIONAL PODCAST EPISODES YOU MAY LIKE: π§ Listen to my podcast episode about going from one to two with Lindsay Ellingson π§ Listen to my podcast episode about pregnancy, postpartum, and early parenthood with Dr. Jessica Vernon π§ Listen to my podcast episode about what to do during pregnancy to make you less vulnerable to postpartum anxiety π§ Listen to my podcast episode about movement during pregnancy and beyond with Dr. Megan Roche WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU: Go to https://drsarahbren.com/question to send us a question or a topic you want to hear us answer on Securely Attached - Beyond the Sessions!

Feb 25, 2025 β’ 54min
The do's and don'ts of supporting a grieving child: What every parent needs to know with Dr. Dan Wolfson
Grief isn't something we get overβit's something we integrate. Joining me to discuss this and the best way to support children through profound loss is Dr. Dan Wolfson, a clinical psychologist specializing in grief. In this episode we explore: - The skills needed for fostering resilience and helping children and adults learn to grieve in a healthy manner. - The importance of "oscillation" through grief and how Dr. Dan works with his patients to help them learn to process their feelings without these emotions completely overtaking them. - How to help determine when and how it's time for your child (or you) to go back to things like extracurricular activities, birthday parties, and other "normal" ways of reengaging with life. - Parents are often hesitant to show their own grief to their children, however, this can be a helpful form of modeling. We discuss appropriate ways to share your emotions with your child. - Typical behaviors and regressions we often see in children who are processing profound sadness and difficult emotions, so you know what to be on the lookout for. If you or your child are navigating profound loss, this conversation is here to remind you that healing isn't linear, and you don't have to do it alone. LEARN MORE ABOUT DR. DAN: https://www.wolfsontherapy.com/danwolfson LEARN MORE ABOUT EXPERIENCE CAMPS: https://experiencecamps.org/about-us FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM: π±@wolfsontherapy π± @drsarahbren ADDITIONAL REFERENCES AND RESOURCES: ππ» Click here to lean more about support options at Upshur Bren Psychology Group and to schedule a free 15-minute consultation call to learn more about the available resources for your unique needs. π The Invisible String CHECK OUT ADDITIONAL PODCAST EPISODES YOU MAY LIKE: π§ 192. Death, grief, and parenting: How we can help our kids make sense of and make peace with death with Rabbi Steve Leder π§ 194. Confronting death to find a deeper meaning in life: A continuation of my conversation with Rabbi Steve Leder π§ 70. Helping children process, accept and understand death with death doula Heather Hogan

Feb 20, 2025 β’ 23min
Q&A: What can I do when my child feels left out by her friends?
Beyond the Sessions is answering YOUR parenting questions! In this episode, Dr. Rebecca Hershberg and I talk about... - First things first, why are schools still sending out candy grams in this current climate with a loneliness epidemic on the rise? - Cliques and posses that form in middle school are often rife with envy, jealousy, gossip, and temptation - how to help our kids navigate this. - What advice to give your child when they are left out in a friend group. - How to help a child who tends to avoid conflict in their interpersonal relationships build a greater tolerance for joining in and addressing things directly. - "There is a difference between a kid who says 'I am going to let this go' vs. 'I am going to hold this in.'" - Understanding "social currency" and how that impacts children, especially as they move into the stage of development where their attention begins to move away from their parents and much more heavily toward their peers. ADDITIONAL PODCAST EPISODES YOU MAY LIKE: π§ Listen to my podcast episode about talking with your teen with Elizabeth Bennett π§ Listen to my podcast episode about respond to your child who you think is bullying other kids π§ Listen to my podcast episode about social media's impact on your child's attachment security with Dr. Miriam Steele WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU: Go to https://drsarahbren.com/question to send us a question or a topic you want to hear us answer on Securely Attached - Beyond the Sessions!

Feb 18, 2025 β’ 51min
Beyond the 6-week checkup: A realistic look at postpartum and early parenthood with Dr. Jessica Vernon
Do you know the signs of postpartum depression? Many parents (and even medical professionals) often miss diagnosing new mothers with a perinatal mood and anxiety disorder. Here to help shed light on this important topic is Board-Certified OB/GYN and author of the upcoming book, Then Comes Baby, Dr. Jessica Vernon. In this episode we explore: - Why postpartum mental health conditions are so often overlookedβeven in medical training. - The types of questions Dr. Jessica started asking her prenatal and postpartum patients that allowed them the space to open up and reveal the struggles they were experiencing. - How the 6-week check-in after birth become the standard practice and what birthing people can expect of their bodies and minds at the 6-week mark. - Why women experiencing mental health struggles in postpartum are so prone to feelings of guilt and shame - even though there is no difference between medical risks and mental health risks, as a society we tend to attach more shame to mental health challenges. - What is matrescence and how is it revolutionizing the way we view early motherhood. - Managing our expectations with the realization that reality and our fantasies often don't match up and how that can cause struggles - from birth, to feeding, postpartum, and early parenthood. - Free moms groups, books, and other resources for expecting and new parents. Whether you're pregnant, newly postpartum, or a professional working with new parents, this episode offers essential insights into how we can improve postpartum care and support maternal mental health. LEARN MORE ABOUT DR. JESSICA: https://www.drjessicavernon.com/ PRE-ORDER DR. JESSICA'S BOOK: π Then Comes Baby: An Honest Conversation about Birth, Postpartum, and the Complex Transition to Parenthood ARE YOU A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL? Go to upshurbren.com/IFSTraining to register for The Good Mom/Bad Mom Loop, a 3-hour workshop on 2/27 designed to teach professionals how to integrate Internal Family Systems concepts into maternal mental health services to provide improved support for moms. FOLLOW US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: π± @drsarahbren π± @dr.jessicavernon, Jessica Vernon, Jessica Vernon, MD, FACOG, PMH-C ADDITIONAL REFERENCES AND RESOURCES: π Ordinary Insanity: Fear and the Silent Crisis of Motherhood in America π Matrescence: On Pregnancy, Childbirth, and Motherhood β¨ Postpartum Support International CHECK OUT ADDITIONAL PODCAST EPISODES YOU MAY LIKE: π§ Going back to work after baby: Maintaining a healthy and secure attachment bond π§ How to lighten the load in pregnancy and postpartum with Dr. Sterling π§ A breakdown of perinatal mood and anxiety disorders (PMADs) π§ Sex after baby - Part I and Part II


