Leveling Up with Eric Siu

Today, we are going to talk about seven years of operating lessons from taking over my ad agency! This is a multi-part series that talks about the most powerful lessons learned throughout the journey. This is part 3 of the series! When I first started running the business I didn't listen to the team and employees were leaving left and right. When I finally dropped down to one employee, I decided it was time to make a change. These are the lessons that helped me turn my business around and if you put them into action they can help you too!

Most people create the product they have in mind and then try to build a brand around it, but not Mario Nawfal, the CEO of the Athena Group of Companies. What has led to Mario’s success is his business philosophy of first testing a range of products to see which ones do well, and then to begin building out a brand around a product that is already on the consumer radar and trending. For him, it is all about leveraging the momentum of a popular product or service and getting your timing right. Just take 2020 as an example. Those who have become millionaires by selling PPE and hand sanitizers would have been nowhere the year before. In this episode, Mario talks about his group of e-commerce and agency companies, sharing how the avant-garde growth hack strategies developed by the latter are used to boost the business of the former. And while service-based businesses such as agencies are not easily scalable, Mario shares how they are still getting great value out of these organizations and using them to benefit the group at large. Our guest talks about the lessons he learned from Froothie, one of his early companies, regarding the importance of creating a community, and shares about his collaboration with growth hack specialists Jared Codling and Kyrill Krystallis. Tuning in, listeners will also hear Mario’s views on starting a company from scratch versus acquiring an existing one, and much more!  TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES: [00:21] Before we jump into today’s interview, please rate, review, and subscribe to the Leveling Up Podcast! [00:47] Find out how Mario got started in e-commerce and eventually expanded into B2B.  [01:33] When Mario's entrepreneurial journey started and challenging himself in the agency space.  [02:12] Hear about the extent to which Mario is personally involved in the companies he owns. [03:00] Mario shares some numbers on the growth of his group of companies.  [05:45] The importance of testing and building a brand around a product that is proving to work. [06:43] Overcoming the problem of making money on inexpensive items with a low AOV or LTV.  [07:37] Learn about the innovative growth-hacking services offered by his agencies.   [08:55] How Mario’s agencies can serve his existing e-commerce businesses and vice versa. [09:40] Advice for building a brand around a product in a highly competitive market.  [12:52] The lessons from Froothie about the power of a strong brand and community.  [14:28] Mario shares his perspective on what growth hacking is and the best strategies to use.  [17:38] The genius way that Jared Codling built his community and extensive database.  [19:02] Using Phantombuster as a beginner and where you can find videos for tips and tricks.   [20:38] Building new businesses from scratch versus buying existing e-commerce businesses.  [21:34] A resource for growth hacking tools and the most important one for your health.  [24:14] One of the biggest mistakes you can make as an entrepreneur: neglecting your health.    Resources From The Interview:   Mario Nawfal  Mario Nawfal on LinkedIn Mario Nawfal on Instagram Athena Capital Athena Group of Companies Tiny Capital Andrew Wilkinson on Twitter Warren Buffett Froothie Phantombuster Kylie Jenner on Instagram Kylie Cosmetics Kanye  Bill Gross TED Magento  Marketing School Kyrill Krystallis on LinkedIn Jared Codling  We Are Growth Hackers  Inside Insight Hack Your Agency Top Fucking Secret The Real Yellow Pages Slack FreeStyle Libre Levels Must-read book: The Obstacle is the Way   Leave Some Feedback:   What should I talk about next? Who should I interview? Please let me know on Twitter or in the comments below. Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please leave a short review here Subscribe to Leveling Up on iTunes Get the non-iTunes RSS Feed   Connect with Eric Siu:    Growth Everywhere Single Grain Eric Siu on Twitter

In the 70's the Patels from India created a method for acquiring motels and in time earned a massive fortune that could take care of their entire family. In this clip we do a book summary of one of my new favorite books, The Dhando Investor, and discover how you can mitigate risk in your investments and create massive wealth!

Today we talk to Henry Schuck, Co-Founder and CEO of ZoomInfo (formerly DiscoverOrg) about best practices for steering the ship of a startup and scaling it until it goes public. ZoomInfo provides subscription-based sales and marketing intelligence to its clients in the form of accurate B2B content and company information to accelerate the growth of their marketing teams! Henry starts by summing up his education and career, sharing the story of co-founding DiscoverOrg, wearing multiple hats while scaling it to the point of going public, and then acquiring ZoomInfo. From there, we get into some of Henry’s habits that took him from startup CEO to public company CEO. He talks about mastering the skills needed to see DiscoverOrg through its first five years, how to let go of staff who served their purpose but are now holding the company back, and how bringing on investors changed the internal dynamics of the firm for the better. Henry also gets into his ‘pebble in the shoe’ method for aligning his teams with his vision, what goes into ZoomInfo's growth engine, and the people and resources he consults to stay sharp and constantly get better. For all this and more on the topic of continuous improvement and directing a publicly owned company from Henry, be sure to tune in. TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES: [00:21] Before we jump into today’s interview, please rate, review, and subscribe to the Leveling Up Podcast! [01:00] Henry’s education and how he co-founded DiscoverOrg and acquired ZoomInfo. [03:11] Wearing multiple hats, imposter syndrome, and the first five years of DiscoverOrg.  [05:00] Why Henry decided to bring on investors and what he learned about hiring after. [07:25] How Henry dealt with being accountable to people other than his co-founder after going public. [08:21] Dealing with letting go of employees who aren’t good enough to help you scale. [12:35] How Henry handled scaling so well; constantly mastering the skills involved. [14:00] Get great at something, train somebody else to do it, and then move on. [15:36] How Henry steers the ship by pointing out what’s wrong with existing systems.  [16:52] Winning by constantly iterating versus ‘that’s how it’s always been done’ thinking. [19:02] ZoomInfo’s growth engine and how it works using a specialization sales funnel. [20:41] Figuring out how to get, and take action on, metrics for one’s business. [22:50] People Henry consults with to get advice on how to be a better CEO. [23:52] Why the reMarkable tablet is a tool that’s made a recent impact on Henry. [24:28] Henry reads analyst reports to get better and stay informed. [25:27] Two must-read book recommendations from Henry. [27:17] The most compelling thing Henry recently read: Every analyst report on ZoomInfo! [28:03] How to find Henry online, get in touch with him, and learn more about him.     Resources From The Interview:   Henry Schuck on Twitter Henry Schuck on LinkedIn Henry Schuck Email ZoomInfo DiscoverOrg University of Nevada Ohio State University The Carlyle Group The E-Myth YPO EO Oura Ring Evernote reMarkable Smartsheet Morgan Stanley Ben Horowitz Must read book: Ogilvy on Advertising, The Hard Thing About Hard Things   Leave Some Feedback:   What should I talk about next? Who should I interview? Please let me know on Twitter or in the comments below. Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please leave a short review here Subscribe to Leveling Up on iTunes Get the non-iTunes RSS Feed   Connect with Eric Siu:    Growth Everywhere Single Grain Eric Siu on Twitter

From an airplane designer to a marketing expert, today we are joined by Guy Yalif, the co-founder and CEO of Intellimize, a company that automatically optimizes websites to drive revenue and customer acquisition using machine learning. After making the unusual leap from a career in aerospace engineering, Guy accumulated considerable marketing experience by working in the startup space as well as for big brands like Twitter, Yahoo, and Microsoft. In this episode, he talks about the value that Intellimize offers its customers, including the unique ability to personalize the web experience for each user while also providing useful insight that can be leveraged to refine their messaging. Their sophisticated software gathers and interprets data to make suitable suggestions to site visitors, thereby boosting conversion rates and making a big difference in the sales department. In general, their customers are seeing a remarkable 46% improvement on the metrics they care about since Intellimize is all about focusing on those aspects that are most pertinent to their customers. For them, success is about ensuring that their customers are happy and successful, which is the exact reason why they are seeing such rapid growth themselves. To hear more from seasoned marketer Guy Yalif, be sure to tune in for this episode of Leveling Up!   TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES: [00:41] Before we jump into today’s interview, please rate, review, and subscribe to the Leveling Up Podcast! [00:55] Guy talks about his unusual transition from aerospace engineer to marketing expert.  [01:57] Hear how Intellimize will personalize the web experience for each unique visitor.  [03:15] The value of a customized home page and how they interpret personalization.  [04:11] Using the tool to make money through personalization and get useful insights. [05:02] Find out how Intellimize helped Stella & Dot achieve a 52% increase in conversion. [06:48] How Intellimize knows the right messaging and experience for any given customer.  [07:56] The data Intellimize gathers to identify and suggest suitable products for site visitors. [09:39] Leveraging machine learning to figure out what works without any manual input.  [10:53] How Intellimize makes money and the size of the companies and websites they cater to.  [11:59] Why it is not necessarily wise to sell your software on a price-per-test basis.   [12:32] Building a system to work with little traffic and to be faster than traditional testing.  [13:38] How customers are seeing a 46% improvement on the metrics they care about. [15:14] Why Intellimize will get more out of data than a marketing team. [16:54] How Intellimize works with customers’ marketing teams to code the suggested ideas. [19:07] The biggest growth challenge Intellimize have had — finding the right team members.  [20:19] The overarching objective of ensuring that customers are happy and successful. [21:14] Guy shares how using an Oura Ring has allowed him to leverage the power of sleep.  [23:40] The two people Guy most likes to learn from – Tod Sacerdoti and Doug Knopper.      Resources From The Interview:   Guy Yalif on Twitter Guy Yalif on LinkedIn Intellimize  Segment Drift Looker Stella & Dot Unilever Emburse Payments Tableau  ClickFlow Dermalogica Oura Ring Quantified Self 37signals (Basecamp) Tod Sacerdoti on Twitter Doug Knopper on LinkedIn FreeWheel Must-read book: Getting Real     Leave Some Feedback:   What should I talk about next? Who should I interview? Please let me know on Twitter or in the comments below. Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please leave a short review here Subscribe to Leveling Up on iTunes Get the non-iTunes RSS Feed   Connect with Eric Siu:    Growth Everywhere Single Grain Eric Siu on Twitter

This is a special bonus episode where we take a sneak peek into our virtual event and share a portion of one of the talks from the event. In this episode, we're sharing the mic with investing legend, Roland Frasier, who goes into detail about how to buy an existing business with no money down.

Although marketing has evolved a great deal over the past 100 years, the same principles still apply because human psychology has not changed. This is why is, no matter how complicated the marketing landscape gets, simple copywriting remains the most powerful. No-one knows this better than today’s guest, Craig Clemens, an exceptional copywriter, brand-builder, and positioner. As co-founder of Golden Hippo, a leader in direct-to-consumer marketing that builds innovative health, beauty, and pet care brands, Craig knows that it takes to connect with customers effectively. In this episode, we dive into Craig’s fascinating marketing journey, including some of the profound sales and life lessons he learned from his time as a telemarketer. We also gain insights into Craig’s copywriting process, where he highlights the importance of market research. He does not believe in selling products but instead offering unique solutions to people's problems. We also hear more about Golden Hippo and its distinct approach to building brands. Along with this, we touch on politics, where Craig dissects how effective marketing is key to building momentum and a dedicated support base. Tune in today! TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES: [00:21] Before we jump into today’s interview, please rate, review, and subscribe to the Leveling Up Podcast! [01:07] Craig’s background and his journey from telemarketing to where he is now.  [04:38] Some of the biggest lessons that Craig learned from his time in telemarketing.  [06:16] Craig’s recommendations about the best copywriting resources. [07:28] Why successful companies are some of the best examples of great copywriting. [09:29] Hear why you should be wary about studying venture-backed companies’ ads. [10:59] What Craig’s daily copywriting and creative process looks like.  [12:17] The unique things about market research compared with other types of research. [13:56] Why good copywriting is about doing the simple things really well. [14:25] Gary Halbert’s copywriting advice and some of his seminal work. [17:56] Golden Hippo’s current hiring needs and reopening their offices.  [18:28] Details about Craig’s company before Golden Hippo, Breakthrough Media. [19:56] Golden Hippo’s founding story and current employee numbers. [21:13] Hear more about Golden Hippo’s unique culture around each of their brands. [22:32] The ads that Craig has written have generated over $1 billion in sales revenue! [24:16] Important lessons that Craig has learned about leadership as his career has evolved. [27:23] Marketers and founders that Craig is currently following. [28:46] Craig’s take on politics and the role that marketing plays in the political landscape. [33:37] Hear about Craig’s favorite business book and best business tool.   Resources From The Interview:   Craig Clemens Twitter Craig Clemens Instagram Craig Clemens LinkedIn Golden Hippo Eben Pagan Double Your Dating Claude C. Hopkins Robert Collier Eugene Schwartz Alexa Crunchbase WeWork Breakthrough Advertising Robert Pittman Gary Halbert Hemingway Editor Rachel Hollis The Boron Letters Tribal Leadership Russell Brunson John Reese Dean Graziosi Tony Robbins Brendon Burchard Donald Trump Twitter Mike Bloomberg Barack Obama Tim Ryan Must read book: Ready, Fire, Aim   Leave Some Feedback:   What should I talk about next? Who should I interview? Please let me know on Twitter or in the comments below. Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please leave a short review here Subscribe to Leveling Up on iTunes Get the non-iTunes RSS Feed   Connect with Eric Siu:    Growth Everywhere Single Grain Eric Siu on Twitter

Today, we are going to talk about seven years of operating lessons from taking over my ad agency! This is a multi-part series that talks about the most powerful lessons learned throughout the journey. When I first started running the business I didn't listen to the team and employees were leaving left and right. When I finally dropped down to one employee, I decided it was time to make a change. These are the lessons that helped me turn my business around and if you put them into action they can help you too!

The more agile companies can be in the current volatile landscape, the better. Smartsheet is a collaboration software platform that helps companies optimize functionality and one of the things that makes it different is that it is not purpose-built. With 2572 documented use cases to date, Smartsheet possesses the kind of wide applicability that companies need to stay light-footed enough to keep up, and all without having to write a line of code! Today we have its CMO, Anna Griffin, join us on the show to talk more about how the software works as well as speak to the things that make her tick and how she got to be where she is today. Anna gets into her journey into the B2B space and what feeds into her out of the box approach to marketing. We turn our attention to Smartsheet next and hear from Anna about the platform’s fluidity and how they approach marketing it when the product does so many different things. She makes a case for how well the software lends itself to bottom-up adoption, and then we hear a few metrics that prove many larger firms are taking to it in a top-down way too. Anna gets into some of her unusual strategies for winning over these big enterprise clients next, and from there we dive a bit more into the places she finds her inspiration. For all this and more from a unique CMO with a flair for marketing and an equally outstanding product that is here to stay, be sure to tune in! TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES: [00:21] Before we jump into today’s interview, please rate, review, and subscribe to the Leveling Up Podcast! [00:50] How Anna arrived in the B2B space bringing an emotional approach to marketing. [02:20] The range of uses for Smartsheet – its agility – and why this means they need a CMO. [04:57] Competitors of Smartsheet like AirTable that give an idea of what the platform does. [05:36] How Smartsheet makes money and spreads due to its wide applicability. [07:48] That Smartsheet is built for scale and is adopted in bottom-up and top-down ways. [09:05] How valuable such a flexible product like Smartsheet is in an agile environment. [09:38] Metrics that show how Smartsheet is attacking top-down marketing. [10:27] How Smartsheet markets itself when it’s capabilities are so wide. [11:44] The success of community and traditional marketing for Smartsheet. [13:30] Anna’s mashup mindset: How she combines pep talks and more into marketing.  [15:35] Where Anna gets her inspiration, from country music to her favorite books. [16:53] The ‘Uberization’ of customer service that has upped customer expectations. [17:26] Anna’s favorite business tool and some of the podcasts she listens to regularly. [19:05] Why Anna’s favorite business book is Pretty Good Advice.   Resources From The Interview:   Anna Griffin on LinkedIn Smartsheet NoCode AirTable Microsoft Google Monday Asana Apple Steve Wozniak Wall Street Journal The Last Dance Jeff Rosenblum Uber Instagram OZY Shelley Zalis on Twitter The Female Quotient Leslie Blodgett on Instagram Bare Escentuals Must read book: The Great Gatsby, Friction, Pretty Good Advice   Leave Some Feedback:   What should I talk about next? Who should I interview? Please let me know on Twitter or in the comments below. Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please leave a short review here Subscribe to Leveling Up on iTunes Get the non-iTunes RSS Feed   Connect with Eric Siu:    Growth Everywhere Single Grain Eric Siu on Twitter

Business travel may not be happening as frequently anymore due to the COVID pandemic, but that does not concern today’s guest, Avi Meir. He is CEO and Co-Founder of TravelPerk, a ground-breaking business travel platform that offers companies of any size a one-stop-shop to book all of their travel in a single space. Avi is a travel industry veteran with fifteen years of experience. In this episode, we learn more about the platform, including the pain points they look to solve, how they generate income, and the ways they are reimagining business travel. We also learn about Avi’s choice to base the business in Barcelona, an unconventional destination for a tech company. Not only does the city offer a great quality of life, but Avi also believes that it influences their ability to attract top talent. Naturally, the conversation goes to COVID and how TravelPerk has been impacted. Avi shares the remarkable decision they have made to not let anyone go, and how they have used a combination of government relief and out of pocket payments to ensure their employees are furloughed with 80% pay. Aside from the practicalities of having to rehire, Avi knows that a drastic restructuring would harm the company culture, which they value tremendously. We discuss why figuring out core values is the foundational step to fostering a great culture, and learn what TravelPerk did to establish theirs. Along with this, Avi talks about their FlexiPerk product, which has been a pandemic standout and his hot take of why 2021 will see more business travel growth than 2019! Be sure to tune in today!   TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES: [00:41] Before we jump into today’s interview, please rate, review, and subscribe to the Leveling Up Podcast! [01:10] An introduction to Avi, his background, and how he came to found TravelPerk. [02:25] Learn more about TravelPerk and its mission as a business travel platform.  [03:36] Hear about how the platform makes money through commission and products. [05:10] The typical amount customers can expect to pay on TravelPerk and the costs they save. [07:28] Some of TravelPerk’s numbers, including employee count and growth rate. [08:45] Why Avi decided to found TravelPerk in Barcelona which is not a typical tech hub.  [10:47] How TravelPerk manages to recruit great talent and its international workforce. [12:44] Hear how Israeli culture influences their prolific innovation and work ethic.  [14:39] How TravelPerk has dealt with COVID, including the decision to furlough employees. [17:59] Avi shares some COVID-related statistics about the business travel industry.  [20:23] The FlexiPerk product TravelPerk offers and its strength, particularly during the pandemic. [23:16] What culture means at TravelPerk and some unique ways the company fosters it [24:00] TravelPerk’s core values and how they were defined. [27:08] Hear Avi’s contentious prediction for the future of the travel industry. [28:00] Despite all the pandemic-related shifts, the need for human connection still remains. [28:49] Avi’s must read books and favorite business growth tool. [32:01] Why Avi tries to stay away from social media where possible.   Resources From The Interview:   Avi Meir on Twitter Avi Meir on LinkedIn TravelPerk Hotel Ninjas Booking.com Farfetch Monzo Expedia Airbnb IESE Start-up Nation Jim Collins Zoom Chris Voss Slack Notion Qassim Suleimani Must read books: Never Split the Difference, Delivering Happiness   Leave Some Feedback:   What should I talk about next? Who should I interview? Please let me know on Twitter or in the comments below. Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please leave a short review here Subscribe to Leveling Up on iTunes Get the non-iTunes RSS Feed   Connect with Eric Siu:    Growth Everywhere Single Grain Eric Siu on Twitter