Autism Parenting Secrets

Welcome to Episode 212 of Autism Parenting Secrets. We're excited to welcome Dr. Neil Nathan, a renowned family physician with over five decades of experience, to our podcast this week.Dr. Nathan has been a pioneer in bridging conventional and alternative medicine, especially for complex chronic conditions. His influential books, On Hope and Healing and Toxic, have challenged traditional medical boundaries.In his latest book, The Sensitive Patient’s Healing Guide, Dr. Nathan delves into the challenges faced by those hypersensitive to their environments, offering new methodologies and practical solutions. This episode is packed with valuable information for parents navigating the complexities of autism.The secret this week is...You Can’t Heal If You Don’t Feel SAFEYou'll Discover:How Integrative Medicine Has More Answers (3:55)Why We Need A New System (8:27)The Problem With Chat Rooms (11:37)The Backstory Of An Incredibly Unique Book (15:40)Why It All Comes Down To SAFETY (19:13)The Key Role Of The Limbic System And Why It’s Relevant In ASD (21:16)The Importance Of The Vagal Nerve System For Children And Parents (25:05)A Key Hopeful Message To Consider (25:55)The Causes of Limbic and Vagal Dysfunction, Including Two Big Ones (29:42)Mold Toxicity And Lyme Disease Are More Prevalent Than You Think (38:53)A Great Mycotoxin Test (41:28)A Great Lyme Test (42:56)Where to Find The Right Practitioners (45:38)What Mast Cell Activation Looks Like (47:21)The Trifecta Of Systems That Must Be Addressed Simultaneously (50:18)Ways To Quiet The Limbic and Vagal Systems (53:25)Why EMFs Are A Big Deal (1:06:24)About Our Guest:Neil Nathan, MD, has practiced medicine for over 50 years, with Board Certifications in Family Practice and Pain Management. He is a Founding Diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine and ISEAI. Dr. Nathan has authored several books, including Healing is Possible and On Hope and Healing. He hosted the podcast The Cutting Edge of Health and Wellness Today and lectures internationally on mold toxicity. His notable works include Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness. His latest book, The Sensitive Patient’s Healing Guide, was released in January 2024. Dr. Nathan provides mentorship to around 200 physicians and specializes in treating patients with chronic complex medical illnesses and extreme sensitivities.www.neilnathanmd.comReferences in The Episode:Dr. Robert NaviauxSid BakerDr. Pejman Katiraeiwholistickids.comAutism Parenting Secrets Episode 95, “Mold Is A Bigger Threat Than You Think” with Dr. Pejman KatiraeiRealTime Labs Mycotoxin TestIGeneX Lyme ImmunoBlot TestMedical Academy of Pediatric & Special Needs (MAPS)Kurt Woeller MDPrimal Trust by Cathleen KingAnnie Hopper - The Dynamic Neural Retraining System DNRSAshok Gupta Program Brain RetrainingFrequency Specific MicrocurrentAppoloNeuroDr. Porges Safe & Sound ProtocolOur Polyvagal World: How Safety and Trauma Change Us by Stephen Porges and Seth PorgesThe LENSNon-Tinfoil Guide to EMFs by Nicolas PineaultAutism Parenting Secrets Episode 108, “EMFS Impact Kids More” with Nick PineaultAdditional Resources:Take The Quiz: What’s YOUR Top Autism Parenting Blindspot?To learn more about Cass & Len, visit us at www.autismparentingsecrets.comBe sure to follow Cass & Len on InstagramIf you enjoyed this episode, share it with your friends.

Welcome to Episode 211 of Autism Parenting Secrets. This week, we’re focusing on the transformative power of music with Geoff Sewell and Simone Lanham, founders of the Sewell Foundation and leaders in the global entertainment industry.Geoff and Simone co-founded the world's first pop/opera band, Amici Forever, and lead Incognito Artists, a renowned entertainment company in London and New York. Geoff, a multi-platinum-selling tenor, has sold over 3.5 million records and performed for luminaries, including the late Queen Elizabeth and the current King and Queen of England. Simone has excelled in communications, media, and artist management while prioritizing her family.Their lives changed when their eldest daughter was diagnosed with autism in 2005, prompting Simone to become a Certified Integrative Health Coach. In 2007, they established The Sewell Foundation to support families affected by autism in New Zealand.This discussion highlights the importance of addressing medical issues and environmental toxins while embracing self-care and self-love. Their daughter is now living an independent and fulfilling life.Through their work and music, they strive to inspire and uplift, bringing the magic of being alive into every note. The secret this week is…The Miracle of MUSIC: Frequency + Intention = HealingYou'll Discover:Simone & Geoff’s Journey After Their Daughter’s Diagnosis (4:07)The Importance of Self-Care and Self-Love (7:26)Something You Can’t Defer (18:03)An Incredible Comeback Story (22:23)Why You Don’t Hear More Success Stories (34:05)How It All Comes Down To Vibration and Frequency (38:41)Why Music Is Medicine (42:57)The Magic of Singing Together (46:33)About Our Guests:Geoff Sewell is a ‘fellow’ chartered accountant, multi-platinum-selling recording artist, and accomplished tenor.  Together with his wife Simone Lanham, they founded the world’s first pop/opera band, Amici Forever, in 2002, and for the past 25 years, they’ve owned global entertainment company Incognito Artists, with head office in London, UK.  Geoff is a keynote speaker, MC, sound healer, proud husband and father.  He has sold over 3.5 million records, released seven albums, and enjoyed pop and classical charts and tour success in the USA, UK, Asia, Australia, and NZ.  Geoff has performed for the late Queen Elizabeth and the current King and Queen of England, for A-listers, and many distinguished public figures around the world. Simone puts family first, nurturing herself, Geoff, and their two daughters.  Her career spans communications, media, and artist management, and after her eldest daughter regressed into autism in 2005, she became a Certified Integrative Health Coach with IIN, a sound healer, and has spent the past 18 years traveling the world researching healing modalities and honoring the truth.  Geoff and Simone founded The Sewell Foundation charitable trust in 2007 to offer hope and help to families living with autism in their home country of New Zealand.  Their mission in life, through music, is to touch, move, and inspire people so they’re present with the magic of being alive!www.sewellfoundation.com/www.geoffsewell.co.ukwww.incognitoartists.com/ References in The Episode:ASCENSION by Geoff, Sienna + Olivia Sewell is available on all streaming platforms, including SpotifyBelieve album by Geoff SewellLive Love Sing album by Geoff SewellAmici ForeverAutism Health SummitZach Bush MDAdditional Resources:Take The Quiz: What’s YOUR Top Autism Parenting Blindspot?To learn more about Cass & Len, visit us at www.autismparentingsecrets.comBe sure to follow Cass & Len on InstagramIf you enjoyed this episode, share it with your friends.

Welcome to Episode 210 of Autism Parenting Secrets. Dr. Suzanne Goh, MD, BCBA, is our guest this week, and we delved into the potential root causes of autism, emphasizing the importance of personalized, holistic care. She is cofounder and chief medical officer of Cortica, the largest provider of comprehensive health services for autism in the United States. Dr. Goh is a graduate of Harvard University, Oxford University, and Harvard Medical School and currently serves as a faculty member of the Medical Academy of Pediatric Special Needs.In this discussion, we discussed groundbreaking treatments like neuromodulation and the need for collaboration among medical, developmental, and behavioral professionals. Her book Magnificent Minds - The NEW Whole Child Approach to Autism was just released in April 2024, and it’s all about empowering families and providing hope. The secret this week is…Time Is BrainYou'll Discover:A Book To Get You On The Right Track (3:52)The Approach You Want To Take (6:41)Why A Root Cause Focus Matters So Much (10:04)Why Specialists Aren’t Enough (13:38)Characteristics Of The Right Team (18:49)Why Time Is Brain (21:41)Why The Importance of Nutrition Is Undeniable (28:59)The Merits of Genetic Testing & Some Things To Let Go Of (35:44)A Key Test To Perform (38:22)Why The Brain Deserves Urgent Attention (41:12)Emerging Neuromodulation Techniques (46:08)About Our Guest:Suzanne Goh, MD, BCBA, is cofounder and chief medical officer of Cortica, the largest provider of comprehensive health services for autism in the United States. Cortica began in Goh’s one-room medical office in San Diego ten years ago and has grown to a staff of more than a thousand doctors and therapists who serve tens of thousands of autistic children and their families in the United States and abroad. A graduate of Harvard University, Oxford University, and Harvard Medical School, she is the former co-director of Columbia University's Developmental Neuropsychiatry Clinic for Autism, where she conducted research on the biological causes of autism and used brain imaging to identify patterns of neural circuitry and brain chemistry. Goh is currently a faculty member of the Medical Academy of Pediatric Special Needs and is a frequent speaker for parent advocacy organizations. She lives in San Diego, California, with her husband and two children.www.drsuzannegoh.comwww.corticacare.comReferences in The Episode:Medical Academy of Pediatric Special NeedsDr. Larry Rosen, Whole Child CenterAdditional Resources:Take The Quiz: What’s YOUR Top Autism Parenting Blindspot?To learn more about Cass & Len, visit us at www.autismparentingsecrets.comBe sure to follow Cass & Len on InstagramIf you enjoyed this episode, share it with your friends.

Welcome to Episode 209 of Autism Parenting Secrets. The incredible Udo Erasmus returns to the show, and we dove deep into the world of healthy oils, the misconceptions around damaged oils, and the importance of proper packaging and refrigeration. Udo highlights the significance of omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids for overall health. We also discussed the challenges of transitioning to healthier eating habits and the critical role parents play in setting an example. Don’t miss this enlightening conversation that will transform your approach to food and wellness.The secret this week is…Certain FATS Are ESSENTIALYou'll Discover:The Worst Thing We Do To Our Food (4:09)The Three Nutrients That We Are Most Lacking (6:27)The Poisons We Must Avoid (10:55)Way To Help Digestion (14:11)Some Precautions To Take With Meat (19:03)What To Do If Your Child Only Eats Fried Foods (25:11)The Dangers of Damaged Oils (31:10)The Importance of Omega-3 and Omega-6 (45:35)The Potential Benefits of Omega-3 for Children on the Autism Spectrum (52:55)The Importance of Choosing High-Quality Oils (52:27)About Our Guest:The legendary Udo Erasmus is the co-founder of Udo’s Choice line, which can be found in Whole Foods and other health food stores worldwide. Udo designed the machinery for making oils with health in mind and pioneered flax oil, a billion-dollar industry. However, Udo walked a difficult path to become the man he is today. Being a child of war, Udo’s life began with intense struggle. As an adult, he got pesticide poisoning in 1980, leaving doctors at a loss regarding treatment. Deciding to take his health into his own hands, Udo began researching, and his discoveries led him to a passion for finding the answers to life’s big questions, which would hopefully one day bring him and the world peace.  Today, Udo is an acclaimed speaker and author of many books, including the best-selling Fats That Heal Fats That Kill, which has sold over 250,000 copies. He teaches at events hosted by Tony Robbins and Deepak Chopra, has keynoted an international brain health conference, and has traveled to over 30 countries to conduct thousands of live presentations, media interviews, and staff training impacting more than 25,000,000 lives with his message on oils, health, peace, nature, and human nature. Udo has an extensive education in biochemistry, genetics, biology, and nutrition, including a master’s degree in counseling psychology.https://udoerasmus.com/https://www.facebook.com/theudoerasmus/https://www.instagram.com/udoerasmus/References in The Episode:Udo Erasmus - Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill (book)  Udo's Choice (supplements)  Additional Resources:Take The Quiz: What’s YOUR Top Autism Parenting Blindspot?To learn more about Cass & Len, visit us at www.autismparentingsecrets.comBe sure to follow Cass & Len on InstagramIf you enjoyed this episode, share it with your friends.

Welcome to Episode 208 of Autism Parenting Secrets. We’re thrilled to welcome Dr. Pejman Katiraei back to the show.Dr. K is one of the most highly-trained integrative pediatricians in the country, focused on helping children with learning and behavioral challenges. Since 2008, Dr. K has been practicing integrative and holistic medicine to help children with complex health challenges, and he has now helped thousands of children.Dr. K knows what children with learning and behavioral challenges go through because he was one of them. Until he learned how to heal himself, he was limited by anxiety, ADHD, and depression. The secret this week is…Brain Allergies Are In The WayYou'll Discover:A BIG Truth (7:33)The Vicious Cycle To Avoid (8:23)How High Histamine Wreaks Havoc (13:32)The Relationship Between MAST Cells & Microglia (19:44)“Sickness Behavior” (23:45)A Possible Explanation for Regression (28:36)Specific Supplements That Calm (36:18)A Primary Cause Of Mast Cell Activation (42:26)Useful Tests To Consider (50:08)About Our Guest:Dr. Pejman Katiraei is a board-certified pediatrician who is also boarded and fellowship-trained in integrative and holistic medicine. He completed his undergraduate at UCLA and then obtained his osteopathic medical degree at Western University of Health Sciences. He then went on to complete a pediatric residency at Loma Linda University, where he stayed on as teaching faculty for over 4 years. Dr. Katiraei has also completed two fellowships in integrative medicine, one with the University of Arizona and another under Dr. Kamyar Hedayat in a French model of integrative medicine called Endobiogeny. Dr. Katiraei is now in private practice in Santa Monica, where he focuses on helping children with severe behavioral challenges. He is also working with an amazing team to build Wholistic Minds, an online portal that helps parents understand the root cause of their child’s behavioral issues and what steps they can take to help resolve them.Wholistic KidsWholistic MindsReferences in The Episode:Autism Parenting Secrets - Episode 95: MOLD Is A Bigger Threat Than You ThinkHistamine in the Nervous System by Helmut L. HaasCase Study: Rapid Complete Recovery From An Autism Spectrum Disorder After Treatment of Aspergillus With The Antifungal Drugs Itraconazole And Sporanox by Dr. Sidney Baker and William ShawMiricaAlgonot Neuroprotek developed by Theoharis Theoharides MS, PhD, MD, FAAAAIHistamine Digest by Seeking HealthGenova Diagnostics Organic Acids TestMosaic Diagnostics Organic Acids TestAlletess Mold TestsAdditional Resources:Take The Quiz: What’s YOUR Top Autism Parenting Blindspot?To learn more about Cass & Len, visit us at www.autismparentingsecrets.comBe sure to follow Cass & Len on InstagramIf you enjoyed this episode, share it with your friends.

Welcome to Episode 207 of Autism Parenting Secrets. Joining us this week is Leah Wilson, an attorney with a background in complex litigation and advocacy.  She is beyond passionate about children’s health and has researched and worked on child welfare issues for more than a decade.She closed her law practice in 2019 to start Stand For Health Freedom to promote parental rights and informed consent.In this episode, Leah shares insights on navigating the growing scope of genetic testing and the importance of being educated to make empowered choices. This discussion makes a case for knowledge over fear in protecting our children’s health. The secret this week is…Draw YOUR OWN ConclusionsYou'll Discover:The Origin Story of Stand For Health Freedom (2:24)Some Incredibly Important Questions To Ask (13:22)The Power of The TIMELINE (16:03)Concerns With Newborn Screening (23:05)How You Can Be Part of the Solution (33:01)About Our Guest:Leah Wilson, an attorney with a background in complex litigation and advocacy, has been dedicated to children's health and welfare for over a decade. Her journey began with the troubling overmedication of foster children, leading her to become a foster parent and court-appointed advocate. Leah's experiences revealed the pervasive use of psychiatric drugs in foster care and the state's strict vaccination mandates for foster families.Recognizing the broader impact of one-size-fits-all medical mandates on child welfare, Leah founded Stand for Health Freedom (SHF) in 2019 to advocate for all children nationwide. She holds a law degree from Saint Louis University and a dual bachelor's degree in political science and Spanish from Indiana University.Leah also owns MaxLiving Indy, a prominent natural health center, and is a well-known educator and speaker on holistic health, religious rights, and environmental issues.https://standforhealthfreedom.com/References in The Episode:Weston A Price FoundationAdditional Resources:Take The Quiz: What’s YOUR Top Autism Parenting Blindspot?To learn more about Cass & Len, visit us at www.autismparentingsecrets.comBe sure to follow Cass & Len on InstagramIf you enjoyed this episode, share it with your friends.

Welcome to Episode 206 of Autism Parenting Secrets. This week, we’re focusing on the perspective of the sibling of a child with autism.Their lives are absolutely impacted, yet their needs are often ignored or unintentionally not prioritized.Joining us is David Kartzinel, son of Dr. Jerry Kartzinel, who was on the show last month (Episode 199) and brother to Josh, who is on the autism spectrum.Nurturing the relationship with your child who is NOT on the spectrum can feel like another ball in the air you must juggle - and it can add to the overwhelm a parent feels.But you CAN meet the needs of all your children and you can also tap the tremendous positive force of siblings in supporting your child on the spectrum.The secret this week is…SIBLINGS Are the Greatest TherapistsYou'll Discover:What It’s Like Being The Sibling of a Child With Autism (3:20)The Role of Counseling and Self-Care for Siblings (8:46)The Impact of Autism on SIBLINGS (14:57)Techniques To Release Trauma (26:24)Specific Actions To Take With Your Child Who’s NOT On The Spectrum (32:34)Why It’s Never Too Late For Open Communication (45:15)How To Nurture Relationships In Challenging Times (52:25)About Our Guest:David Kartzinel is the office manager for Kartzinel Wellness Center with 15 years of experience and the Executive Director of Home Life Community.  He has spearheaded various technological changes and specializes in maximizing the practice’s efficiency.David received his Bachelor of Arts in Biblical Studies from Union University in 2008.  David grew up with autism as a part of his life since he was 13 years old when his youngest brother Joshua was diagnosed at age 2 with autism.  He is passionate about helping siblings and parents understand the long-term effects of living with a special needs sibling, especially with regard to its impacts on the siblings, both negative and positive. Now an adult sibling with children of his own, he continues to work for his father helping families with children who have autism.  David brings a unique perspective that blends a very honest, realistic take with a good-natured optimism that focuses on ensuring a family learns to understand each other and work to improve and move forward together, whatever challenges the family may face.david@drjerryk.comwww.drjerryk.comReferences in The Episode:The Body Keeps The Score by Bessel van der KolkParenting From The Inside Out by Dan SiegelAdam Lane Smith Life CoachAdditional Resources:Take The Quiz: What’s YOUR Top Autism Parenting Blindspot?To learn more about Cass & Len, visit us at www.autismparentingsecrets.comBe sure to follow Cass & Len on InstagramIf you enjoyed this episode, share it with your friends.

Welcome to Episode 205 of Autism Parenting Secrets. Our guest this week is Niall MacMillan, a father of three who understands the power of non-verbal communication.  Last year, his youngest son Ellison was diagnosed with autism and Niall and his family have been on a learning journey since then.Niall has millions of followers on TikTok and Instagram where he portrays a character that doesn't speak and communicates through facial expressions.And that’s been one KEY way he has developed a strong bond with his son, who is non-verbal.The secret this week is…Your FACE Can Inspire More SPEECHYou'll Discover:One Dad’s Perspective On The World of Autism (4:54)The Birth of a Viral Social Media Sensation (12:24)How To Supercharge Your Words (18:41)How Timers Can Help With Transitions (21:09)The Freedom Of Not Caring About What Others Think (25:11)The Facial Expression That DOESN’T Work (28:40)How To Work Your Way Into Your Child’s World (31:15)Practical Tips for Using Facial Expression (35:40)Where To See Facial Expression In Action (41:58)About Our Guest:Niall Macmillan is a dad of three children and one of social media’s most popular content creators, with 8.5 million followers across TikTok and Instagram. Niall has become Gen Z’s answer to Mr Bean thanks to his ‘Awkward’ social media character. Niall lives in the UK with his wife and three children and works a 9-5 job as well as creating his hilarious social media content, which has seen him work with the likes of Amazon, Sony, Universal, and the BBC.Niall MacMillan on TikTok (@niallmacmillan)Niall MacMillan on Instagram (@niallmacmillan)References in The Episode:Visuals2GoThorneAdditional Resources:Take The Quiz: What’s YOUR Top Autism Parenting Blindspot?To learn more about Cass & Len, visit us at www.autismparentingsecrets.comBe sure to follow Cass & Len on InstagramIf you enjoyed this episode, share it with your friends.

Welcome to Episode 204 of Autism Parenting Secrets. Award-winning film and television producer Scott Steindorff joins us this week. Scott’s most recent film, Understanding Autism, was just released on PBS.In this documentary, Scott explores his own autism and seeks to reframe perceptions of neurodiversity by highlighting the talents and perspectives of autistic individuals across the spectrum. Scott is president of Stone Village Films and is known for his work as the executive producer of HBO’s Emmy-nominated "Station Eleven" and Golden Globe-winning "Empire Falls".This discussion delves into the importance of acceptance, understanding, and adapting to the unique needs of autistic children. Parents, schools, and communities can shift from trying to change these amazing kids to embracing their extraordinary ways. The secret this week is…Your ACCEPTANCE Is The KEYYou'll Discover:The Magic of Autistic LOVE (5:54)Why KINDNESS Works (10:30)The Thing Parents Need To Do The Most (14:50)An Approach That Just Isn’t Going To Work (19:00)Why Tough Love Is NOT Love (25:07)What Parents (And Schools) Need To Learn (29:50)The Magic of Going WITH Your Child’s Special Interests (35:30)About Our Guest:Scott Steindorff is an award-winning film and television producer and president of Stone Village Films. Known for his work as the executive producer of HBO’s Emmy-nominated "Station Eleven" and Golden Globe-winning "Empire Falls," Scott also produced the inspirational documentary "Understanding Autism." In this film, he explores his own autism and seeks to reframe perceptions of neurodiversity by highlighting the talents and perspectives of autistic individuals across the spectrum.Scott has a robust portfolio in the entertainment industry, having brought to life notable projects such as "Las Vegas," "Chef," "The Lincoln Lawyer," and more. Additionally, he is a Professor of Practice at Arizona State University, where he teaches about the intersection of emotions and art. Scott also serves as a board member for the ARC and advocates for neurodiversity, speaking at various educational institutions about the importance of emotional intelligence and confronting substance abuse.https://www.stonevillagefilms.com/References in The Episode:Understanding Autism DocumentaryAdditional Resources:Take The Quiz: What’s YOUR Top Autism Parenting Blindspot?To learn more about Cass & Len, visit us at www.autismparentingsecrets.comBe sure to follow Cass & Len on InstagramIf you enjoyed this episode, share it with your friends.

Welcome to Episode 203 of Autism Parenting Secrets. This week, we’re focusing on the transformative power of JOYFUL interactions with children on the autism spectrum.Our guest is Becky Damgaard, a senior Son-Rise Program teacher at the Autism Treatment Center of America. With over two decades of experience working with children on the autism spectrum, Becky shares invaluable insights about the underestimated power of play. In this discussion, we explore how simple, everyday interactions can significantly impact the lives of children with special needs. From the importance of face-making and physical play to the benefits of joining and paying attention to "green light" moments, Becky emphasizes how play isn’t just fun but a vital element in developing communication skills, cognitive abilities, and social connections. If you’re looking to deepen your connection with your child and understand how to be their greatest resource, this episode is a treasure trove of wisdom. Stay tuned as we dive into these playful secrets that promise not only to enhance engagement but also to enrich relationships.The secret this week is …PLAY Is The WayYou'll Discover:Why PLAY Is The Gateway (5:13)The Backstory of The Autism Treatment Center of America (8:38)What Is IAS And Why You Want To Lengthen It (11:05)Ways To Forge A Deeper Connection With Your Child (18:48)How To Be ENTERTAINING (24:12)The Power Of The Three “E”s (31:27)Small Yet Powerful Shifts A Parent Can Make (36:41)A One-Of-A-Kind Weeklong Experience (39:41)About Our Guest:Becky Damgaard is a Senior Son-Rise Program Teacher at the Autism Treatment Center of America.  Her passion for supporting children with special needs began in an elementary school classroom, where she witnessed the misunderstood challenges faced by children on the autism spectrum.  Recognizing the need for a child-centered approach, she joined the Autism Treatment Center of America®, relocating from the UK to pursue her calling.  For the past two decades, Becky has dedicated herself to teaching The Son-Rise Program, working directly with over 700 individual children, and supporting thousands of families worldwide in individual and group settings.  Her unwavering commitment and personalized approach have helped these children reach their true potential. Becky describes her work as her life's mission, and her efforts continue to inspire and bring hope to those she serves. https://autismtreatmentcenter.org/References in The Episode:The Son-Rise Program Start-UpAdditional Resources:Take The Quiz: What’s YOUR Top Autism Parenting Blindspot?To learn more about Cass & Len, visit us at www.autismparentingsecrets.comBe sure to follow Cass & Len on InstagramIf you enjoyed this episode, share it with your friends.