The Next Aid Station

We found/fixed/recovered somewhat the Kilian Korth episode that we recorded about a month ago. This is one of our favorites recently because Kilian is the best hang. We kicked it with him for hours just talking everything sports, ultrarunning, olympics, you name it. Don't miss this episode!!!!

Every runner knows that the rules of the race are what keep it fair. But what happens when the officials change the course markers mid-run just to ensure you DNF?Today, we’re stepping off the trail to sit down with Jake Kilgore’s defense attorney for a shocking look inside a federal investigation that prioritized a "win" over the truth.In this episode, we uncover:The "Conspiracy" Pivot: How the FBI moved the goalposts to "Conspiracy to Commit Medicare Fraud" after they couldn't prove actual fraud.The Forced Plea: The underhanded and illegal tactics used to corner Jake into a plea deal he didn't want to take.The Political Win: Why the Utah government needed a "big win" and why Jake was the chosen target.The Human Cost: What it looks like when the power of the federal government is used to break an individual for the sake of optics.This isn’t about ultrarunning, but it is about the grit required to face an uphill battle where the summit is rigged.

When it comes to the 200-mile distance, Mike McKnight is the undisputed GOAT, and frankly, as long as he loves the trail, he’s going to keep dominating it. While most runners would say, "quit playing games with my heart" after the first 50 miles, Mike leans into the pain because he wants it that way. His endurance is larger than life, proving that even when your legs feel like they’re screaming "bye bye bye" (wait, wrong boy band), Mike knows exactly how to show you the meaning of being lonely out there in the high desert at 3:00 AM. Everybody (yeahhhh), Mike McKnight's back, alright!

What happens when a simple trail run turns into a federal case? This week on The Next Aid Station, we sit down with Michelino Sunseri to discuss one of the most bizarre sagas in ultrarunning history.Michelino wasn’t just hit with a fine or a slap on the wrist. Instead, he found himself at the center of a high-profile National Park Service crackdown—becoming the "poster boy" for a violation that normally ends with a simple citation. From being charged by the NPS to receiving an official pardon from President Donald Trump, Michelino’s story is a wild look at what happens when bureaucracy decides to make an example out of you.

We finally got Jazmine Lowther in the studio for the Next Aid Station. No rigid interview questions here—just a long-form hangout about the sport, the community, and what's going on in her life.

We have some "good news, bad news" for the community today.First, the bad news: Technology 1, Podcast 0. We unfortunately lost the raw files for our interview with Kilian Korth. It’s a gut punch for us, and we know you were looking forward to it, but we’re working on getting him back on the schedule soon.Now, the big news: The long-awaited DC Peaks 100 Miler is officially a go for this Fall.We’re stepping up from the 50 to the full century mark. In this short episode, we’re breaking down:The Fall Timeline: When you can expect to toe the line.The Route: What 100 miles of DC Peaks actually looks like.Registration: How to get in before the spots vanish.The Kilian episode might be gone, but the 100 miler is here to stay. Let’s get to work.

This is a massive moment for the Utah trail community. We get Alex Docta, the Race Director of the brand-new Snowbasin by UTMB, on the phone to get the inside scoop on what to expect for the 2026 inaugural race.From the vertical gain on the 58K to the "runnable" singletrack of the 28K, we break down why this race is a game-changer for the Wasatch. Plus, stick around as we open a surprise care package from the newly rebranded Nike ACG live on air—is this the gear that will dominate the 2026 season?🏔️ What We Cover:The Big Reveal: Why UTMB chose Snowbasin and what makes this course unique.Course Breakdown: A deep dive into the 58km (5,800' gain) and 28km (2,400' gain) routes.Registration & Dates: Everything you need to know for September 10–12, 2026.Nike ACG Unboxing: Jake gets a surprise package from Nike ACG?

Season 4 of The Next Aid Station is officially underway.We kick things off by diving into the current state of ultra running, breaking down the top 10 men’s and women’s ultra runners shaping the sport right now. From dominant veterans to athletes redefining what’s possible, we talk performances, trends, and what’s standing out heading into the season.We also preview what’s ahead in Season 4—new conversations, deeper storytelling, and a continued focus on the people, races, and moments that make ultra running what it is.Whether you’re lining up for your first ultra or deep in the sport, Season 4 starts here.

1-star reviews, Hardrock drama, doping fears, and the future of ultrarunning.In this episode of The Next Aid Station, we take an unfiltered look at where trail and ultrarunning is headed — and why not everyone likes what we have to say.We read and react to brutal podcast reviews, break down Hardrock lottery controversy, debate Ultrarunner of the Year candidates, and talk openly about money, pressure, and the growing risk of doping as the sport professionalizes.From Courtney Dauwalter’s future and comeback seasons, to why saying the quiet part out loud gets you 1-star ratings, this episode pulls no punches.If you care about the direction of trail running — the good, the bad, and the uncomfortable — this conversation is for you.• 1-star reviews & internet outrage culture• Hardrock lottery drama & elite selection• Courtney Dauwalter & Katie Schide predictions• Ultrarunner of the Year debates• Prize money, sponsorships & ACG’s impact• Doping concerns in ultrarunning• Comeback seasons vs DNFs• 2026 predictions for the sport⭐ If you enjoy honest conversations about trail & ultrarunning, consider leaving a review on Spotify or Apple Podcasts — it helps the show more than you think.🎧 New episodes every week.

This week on The Next Aid Station, we break down the matchups trail running has been waiting for: Courtney DeWalter vs. Katie Schide and Caleb Olson vs. Tom Evans. With Hardrock and Western States fields taking shape, the stage is set for some of the most competitive racing the sport has ever seen.We also get into the upcoming lotteries, Utah’s new 200-miler, Christian Allen’s breakout road performance, the TRE scheduling fiasco, and the latest trail running film debates. From bold hot takes to real analysis, this episode dives into every corner of the sport — the drama, the rivalries, and the races that will define 2025.In this episode:• Courtney vs Katie: early Hardrock predictions• Caleb vs Tom: Western States showdown potential• Why Western is suddenly stacked again• Christian Allen’s 2:09 marathon and mountain crossover• Utah announces a 200-mile race• Mike McKnight gets into Hardrock• Chuckanut 50K planning• Trail running film of the year debates• College football chaos (and how we’d fix it)• Scott’s Hurt 100 training updatesFollow the show, share it with a friend, and join us next week as we reveal our official Ultra Runner of the Year picks.