The Space Show by Dr. David Livingston

We welcomed our guest, Dr. Namrata Goswami, with the objectives of exploring China's lunar ambitions and space policies, comparing them to US initiatives while discussing the implications for commercial space activities and national security. The discussion concluded with analyses of China's strategic energy initiatives and space technology development, including their approach to commercial space partnerships and the potential impact of U.S. sanctions on Russian oil imports on India's space relationships. Space Show participants included Marshal Martin, Dr. Ajay Kothari, Rick Kwan, John Hunt, Dr. Charles Lurio and Amir Notea.As a group discussed recent changes in U.S. space policy and personnel, including the departure of a controversial now ambassador to India. Namrata Goswami returned as a guest to analyze these developments. They also reviewed SpaceX's successful Starship Demo 10 flight and discussed the importance of India as a strategic partner in space. The show highlighted upcoming events, including an art exhibition by Dr. Kothari in Fairfax, Virginia, and encouraged listeners to support the Space Show through donations or sponsorships.Namrata discussed China's lunar program, highlighting its focus on building an industrial capacity and infrastructure on the moon by 2036, including a 1 megawatt nuclear energy capability. She compared this to the US Artemis program, noting that while both aim to build lunar bases, China's ambitions are on a larger scale. Namrata also addressed concerns about China potentially misbehaving on the moon, explaining that China's strategic culture, as a one-party state, has historically involved occupying resource-rich areas. She suggested that the US needs to enhance its cislunar domain awareness, establish clear policy guidance for lunar infrastructure development, and take leadership in creating a regulatory structure for lunar activities to counter China's ambitions.Namrata discussed the evolving discourse on space policy, highlighting how legal systems established in the 1960s and 1970s did not anticipate the current commercial space sector. She noted that while her research and analysis are reflected in some policy documents, there is still a need to address the global nature of space activities and the importance of space infrastructure. David inquired about the impact of Namrata's work on space policy, to which she explained that her research has influenced national security considerations and policy discussions, though not directly leading to specific policy outcomes.Charles inquired about China's plans for their Long March 10 and 9 rockets, and Namrata clarified the differences between the two. She explained that the Long March 10A is a non-reusable rocket intended for lunar missions by 2030, while the Long March 9 is a heavy-lift rocket designed to be partially reusable by 2030, with a goal of full reusability by 2040. Namrata also highlighted that China's space program is driven by specific missions and infrastructure goals, such as space-based solar power and a Mars base, and emphasized the ideological purposes behind their rocket development, similar to SpaceX's narrative.The discussion focused on comparing China's commercial space sector with the US model. Namrata explained that while the US has a traditional public-private partnership where government funds commercial space activities through agencies like NASA, China's system is more integrated with government funding and direction. She noted that China's commercial space companies, though not state-owned, receive significant government funding and operate under a legal framework where they must support national defense and security initiatives if requested. The conversation highlighted how China's approach has allowed it to become an innovation powerhouse in areas like quantum computing and AI, while maintaining control over strategic technologies through its National Defense Law.The discussion next focused on the potential impact of U.S. sanctions on Russian oil imports on India's space partnership with the U.S. Namrata explained that while India has economic concerns about oil prices affecting its population, the space partnership remains strong, with ongoing collaborations including NASA's NISAR satellite launch and human spaceflight programs. The conversation also explored space policies in the Middle East, particularly the United Arab Emirates' ambitious goals including Mars missions and space resource utilization, as well as Saudi Arabia's plans for a spaceport and smart city. The group discussed whether sanctions on Russian oil would force India and China to comply with U.S. demands, with Namrata noting that economic sanctions could be challenging in India due to its large population and dependence on oil imports, though the outcome remained uncertain.Namrata discussed China's strategic energy initiatives, particularly their discovery of thorium deposits and development of nuclear and space-based solar power programs per comments from Ajay. Namrata explained that under President Xi Jinping, China has identified energy as a critical strategic area due to concerns about energy security and the "Malacca Dilemma," and has been investing heavily in alternative energy sources and space technology. The conversation ended with Marshall expressing his impression of SpaceX's Starship 10 launch, while Rick announced he would soon be traveling to China.Please see the Zoom video of this program a doctorspace.substack.com. The program audio will also be posted on Substack along with being posted on TSS website. Special thanks to our sponsors:Northrup Grumman, American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Helix Space in Luxembourg, Celestis Memorial Spaceflights, Astrox Corporation, Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University, The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy, The Atlantis Project, and Artless EntertainmentOur Toll Free Line for Live Broadcasts: 1-866-687-7223For real time program participation, email Dr. Space at: drspace@thespaceshow.comThe Space Show is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use:To donate with Zelle, use the email address: david@onegiantleapfoundation.org.If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to:One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135Upcoming Programs:No program on Sunday August 31 due to Labor Day Holiday Weekend.Live Streaming is at https://www.thespaceshow.com/content/listen-live with the following live streaming sites:Stream Guys https://player.streamguys.com/thespaceshow/sgplayer3/player.php#FastServhttps://ic2646c302.fastserv.com/stream Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe

OL for Sunday, 8-24-25 Meeting summaryOur Open Lines program began with members of our Advisory Board in the Zoom meeting on casual conversation about the upcoming Starship test 10 flight. The group then explored various space-related topics including more Starship test flights, SpaceX, lunar landing architectures, and NASA's Artemis program, while also discussing the importance of public communication about space exploration and its potential benefits. The conversation ended with discussions about scientific discoveries, upcoming shows featuring space policy experts, and an art showing by Dr. Kothari, along with additional updates about the upcoming Starship launch.Our pre-program conversation ended with David announcing upcoming Space Show programs, including a discussion with Dr. Namrata Goswami about national security and the Chinese space program, and a potential interview with Greta, an emeritus professor from Yale who has a new thesis about the extinction of dinosaurs. Space Show program participants included Marshall Martin, John Jossy, Rick Kwan, Michael Listner, John Hunt, and Dr. A.J. Kothari.We started the actual meeting by talking about the upcoming Starship test flight (it was postponed), with Marshall estimating a 60% chance of success. They debated how success should be measured, with John Jossy noting that while not blowing up is a success, completing a good percentage of experiments is also important. Rick and Marshall discussed the transition from version 2 to version 3 of Starship, with Marshall noting that the main upgrade is replacing Raptor 2 engines with Raptor 3 engines. The group also touched on the challenges of keeping the dry weight low while maximizing payload capacity for Mars missions. They concluded that a failed test would likely have a cascading effect on schedules, particularly for Artemis, but that SpaceX has the financial resources to continue development.The group discussed the number of test flights needed for SpaceX's Starship, with Marshall suggesting 11 flights based on his spreadsheet analysis. They debated the risks of betting on the Artemis program's timeline to beat China to the moon, with John Hunt and David expressing concerns about the current infrastructure and delays. Rick noted that Chinese technology is rapidly improving, potentially making it harder to catch up. The discussion concluded with David suggesting that Congress might not be as motivated to play catch-up with China as previous generations were with the Soviets.In addition, we discussed potential lunar landing and return architectures, with Marshall proposing to use Dragon in the nose of a Starship for moon landings, though Dr. Kothari pointed out that Dragon lacks sufficient delta-V for lunar takeoff. Ajay raised concerns about the need for NRHO operations to continue despite budget constraints, while Marshall suggested repurposing Starship as a moon base by tilting it and connecting to future Starships, which would create a legal claim on the moon. The discussion concluded with John Jossy noting that current law mandates continued use of SLS, Orion, and Gateway through Artemis 5, suggesting any architectural changes would need legislative approval.The group discussed NASA's Artemis program and leadership challenges. David expressed concerns about the lack of full-time NASA leadership and the need for better communication to the general public about space exploration's importance. Michael Listner suggested that a permanent NASA administrator might not be necessary and that the current political situation would likely remain unchanged for the foreseeable future. The group agreed to attend a special Space Show program with Mike Gold on August 28th to further discuss these issues.The group discussed the importance of both informing the public and conducting scientific/engineering work in space. Rick presented three key space manufacturing opportunities: pharmaceuticals, semiconductors, and fiber optics, noting progress through NASA's InSpace program led by Lynn Harper. They explored the potential for quantum computing in space, particularly on the moon where cooler temperatures would enable more efficient operation, and discussed the O'Neilian dream of moving heavy manufacturing into space to address environmental concerns. The conversation concluded with a discussion about the intersection of quantum computing and artificial intelligence, though concerns were raised about whether these technical advancements would resonate with the general public.Together we talked about the benefits of space research and its potential to improve lives through medical advancements, such as 3D printing of organs and artificial tissues, which could address critical shortages in organ transplants. They emphasized the importance of effectively communicating these benefits to the public, suggesting that focusing on current achievements and practical applications, rather than overhyping future possibilities, would help gain public support for space exploration. Marshall highlighted the economic potential of Starlink, predicting significant revenue that could fund future space endeavors, while Michael and others stressed the need to highlight existing technologies and their impact on daily life to engage the public. A few of our participants said to be careful not to promise too much. We had a brief discussion about that potential problem.David discussed the potential of space and low gravity environments to advance medical research, particularly in gene therapy for diseases like cystic fibrosis. He emphasized that while solutions to medical problems likely already exist, the challenge is accessing and implementing them, which requires funding and conducive environments. Rick raised concerns about the prioritization of NASA's budget for exploratory missions versus other technologies like stem cell research. David argued that a great nation can pursue multiple goals simultaneously. Marshall highlighted the role of the U.S. military and Space Force in space exploration and security, suggesting they could be a viable second source for dual-purpose initiatives. John Jossy shifted the discussion to focus on accomplishments and ongoing projects in space exploration.Some of our participants spoke to several scientific discoveries, including a landmark study on the universe's early galaxies from the James Webb Space Telescope and the discovery of super-hot spring strings that may account for dark matter. John Hunt shared updates about anomalous materials found at Skinwalker Ranch, which are being analyzed by a team of scientists, though no peer-reviewed paper has been published yet. The conversation ended with a reminder about upcoming Zoom shows, including one with Dr. Goswami on Tuesday evening.We closed by promoting an upcoming special show on Thursday at 12:30 PM West Coast time featuring Mike Gold discussing space policy and commerce. Marshall predicted that space commerce could become a significant source of income in the next 5-10 years, addressing the economic challenges of space projects. Ajay announced an art showing in Fairfax, Virginia on September 20th, featuring his work "The Abstraction of Mind from the Mind of a Rocket Scientist." The group also discussed the Starship launch for later today, with John Jossy noting that Elon Musk's update would likely be broadcast before the launch at 4 PM their time.Don’t forget that you can see the Zoom video of this program and hear the audio archive at doctorspace.substack.com.Special thanks to our sponsors:Northrup Grumman, American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Helix Space in Luxembourg, Celestis Memorial Spaceflights, Astrox Corporation, Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University, The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy, The Atlantis Project, and Artless EntertainmentOur Toll Free Line for Live Broadcasts: 1-866-687-7223For real time program participation, email Dr. Space at: drspace@thespaceshow.comThe Space Show is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use:To donate with Zelle, use the email address: david@onegiantleapfoundation.org.If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to:One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135Upcoming Programs:Broadcast 4422: ZOOM PROGRAM: Dr. Namrata Goswami | Tuesday 26 Aug 2025 700PM PTGuests: Dr. Namrata GoswamiZOOM: National security space, China space and moreBroadcast 4423: Hotel Mars with Eric Berger | Wednesday 27 Aug 2025 930AM PTGuests: John Batchelor, Dr. David Livingston, Eric BergerStarship report, Artemis and more from Ars TechnicaBroadcast 4424: VIA ZOOM Mike Gold of Redwire returns | Thursday 28 Aug 2025 1230PM PTGuests: Mike GoldVia Zoom: Commercial space, policy, investing and lots more with Mike Gold of RedwireSunday, August 31, No show for long Labor Day Weekend Holiday | Sunday 31 Aug 2025 1200PM PTGuests: Dr. David LivingstonNo show for long Labor Day Weekend HolidayLive Streaming is at https://www.thespaceshow.com/content/listen-live with the following live streaming sites:Stream Guys https://player.streamguys.com/thespaceshow/sgplayer3/player.php#FastServ https://ic2646c302.fastserv.com/stream Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe

Listeners: Watch the video if you can as our guest uses excellent visuals that are more than helpful.Meeting assets for Space Show with Mari Anne Snow of Eascra, a Nanomedicine company are ready!The following assets for the meeting - Space Show with Mari Anne Snow of Eascra, a Nanomedicine company are now available.Our program began with guest Mari Anne Snow, CEO of EASCRA Biotech, focusing ion on the Eascra Biotech's innovative work in nanomedicine, including their space missions and development of Janus-based nanoparticles for medical applications. The discussion concluded with detailed exploration of the company's space-based manufacturing processes, potential profitability, and future plans for clinical trials and product development. Joining us in the Zoom meeting were Dr. A.J. Kothari, John Jossy, and Dr. Phil Swan. All of us spoke feely during the program.David and Mari discussed the potential of regenerative medicine and its impact on orthopedic surgeries, particularly knee and hip replacements. Mari emphasized that their target customers are not orthopedic surgeons but rather payers and patients, as insurance often covers traditional replacements more readily than alternative treatments. They explored the market opportunities in conditions like osteoarthritis and neuromuscular injuries, as well as kidney diseases, with the goal of offering cost-effective and innovative treatments. David expressed interest in these topics and mentioned his experience with space medicine, noting the lack of awareness among doctors about emerging space medical technologies.Mari, the Co-founder and CEO of Esker Biotech, discussed her company's innovative work in nanomedicine, focusing on precision therapy delivery solutions for various medical applications. She highlighted their progress, including completing five space missions in 24 months, as evidence of advancements in the commercial space economy. Mari explained that while Eascra is still in early stages and preclinical, they are gathering data to approach the FDA for regulatory approval of space-made products, with the goal of ensuring their space-produced items are equivalent to those made on Earth. The discussion also touched on the company's background, Mari’s experience, and the technical aspects of their work, including the challenges and opportunities in the space and medical fields.Mari discussed her company’s journey from an academic spin-off of the University of Connecticut to becoming a space medicine company. She explained how the company initially focused on producing nanoparticles on Earth but transitioned to space-based manufacturing after receiving funding and opportunities from NASA's In Space Manufacturing Program. Mari detailed their successful space missions, including working with astronauts like Sunita Williams and Johnny Kim, and described their plans to automate future experiments for increased efficiency.Mari explained her company's development of Janus-based nanoparticles for medical applications, including mRNA delivery for osteoarthritis treatment and a cell-free scaffold for cartilage regeneration. She described the nanoparticles' unique structure and delivery mechanism, which allows for better cell penetration and bioactivity compared to existing options. Mari also highlighted the advantages of producing these products in space, where microgravity leads to a more uniform and structurally sound scaffold, resulting in improved tissue regeneration and faster healing rates. Note that I did briefly stop her to explain “Janus-based nanoparticles,” a definition and explanation that was definitely helpful.Mari explained their work on developing medical products, both on Earth and in space, and discussed their progress in gaining FDA approval for their space-created medical product. She mentioned that they have early-stage agreement with the FDA for establishing equivalency between Earth and space samples. David asked about the mechanism for FDA approval of space-created medical products, to which Mari responded that they need to develop this pathway. Mari also addressed David's questions about funding and potential budget cuts, stating that they have stable funding from NASA and an Innovation Grant for a cancer application. She mentioned that they are building relationships with the Department of Defense and SpaceWorks to explore additional funding opportunities and potential applications of their product for troops and long-distance space travel.Our discussion continued focusing on the company's work with Janus-based nanoparticles and their development in microgravity, which has resulted in structural improvements of over 40% due to the lack of sedimentation and convection. Mari explained that her partner, a biomedical engineer at the University of Connecticut, has developed these technologies with funding from various sources including NIH, NSF, and NASA. The company is exploring partnerships with private space companies and has relationships with Axiom, Vast, and others to determine if parabolic flights or autonomous platforms could be sufficient for their needs. They are also considering lunar applications, though questions remain about the effectiveness of 1.6G on the moon compared to microgravity. Note that our Zoom participants were asking our guest many technical and engineering questions during this discussion though their questions were not specifically mentioned in this AI summary.Our Space Show team discussed the potential profitability of producing medical materials in space, with Mari explaining that financial models show the venture could be profitable even at small volumes due to premium pricing similar to existing drugs like CAR T cells (for those of you not familiar with this therapy, check it out here: Home - Explore CAR T). Phil offered to share data on launch costs to various orbits, while the group explored questions about future production environments and subsidies. John inquired about clinical indications for human trials, to which Mari explained they would act as a delivery component for licensing partners, with initial in-house products likely focusing on musculoskeletal conditions like osteoarthritis, where there are currently no effective treatments. AJ also offered to share some of his data with Mari.We discussed manufacturing processes and requirements for space-based medicine production. Mari explained they are currently in proof of concept phase with small batch production, aiming to develop an autonomous production process before scaling up. They confirmed having conversations with Varda and the Explorer company. The production process requires 48 hours in microgravity, making suborbital flights impractical, and the product maintains bioactivity for 6 months at ambient temperature, with plans to test longer-term stability.As we were moving toward the end of our program, Mari focused on three main questions about her company's space products (listen for them in the program). Mari explained that while they have a 10-year timeline to profitability if costs continue to decrease the timeline might shorten. She said they are already generating revenue from Earth-made products. She highlighted their advantage in delivering various types of nucleic acids and drugs due to their tubular structure, noting plans to test cancer applications with RNA and an FDA-approved drug in early 2026. The conversation also revealed that there are millions in potential healthcare solutions blocked by current delivery mechanisms, with Mari's company potentially addressing this issue through their technology, which has already attracted interest from gene editing companies.Mari discussed the development and potential of nanotube delivery systems for pharmaceuticals, highlighting their advantages over existing methods like lipid nanoparticles and viral vectors. This would be especially important for gene therapy and editing. She emphasized the simplicity, customizability, and stability of their technology, as well as its potential for tissue penetration and reduced production complexity. The conversation also touched on the commercialization challenges and opportunities in space pharmaceuticals, with Mari noting that space-based testing could accelerate drug development and reduce costs. The group discussed the potential for insurance coverage of advanced medical treatments and the need for validated commercial examples to demonstrate the efficacy of space-based medicine.Please post your comments/questions for this program on our blog at www.thespaceshow.com. You can also leave comments on our Substack page. I will do my est to follow your comments and make sure our guest is aware of them. Keep in mind it is always up the guest regarding replying to listener blog comments.Special thanks to our sponsors:Northrup Grumman, American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Helix Space in Luxembourg, Celestis Memorial Spaceflights, Astrox Corporation, Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University, The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy, The Atlantis Project, and Artless EntertainmentOur Toll Free Line for Live Broadcasts: 1-866-687-7223For real time program participation, email Dr. Space at: drspace@thespaceshow.comThe Space Show is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use:To donate with Zelle, use the email address: david@onegiantleapfoundation.org.If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to:One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135Upcoming Programs:Broadcast 4422: TBD | Monday 25 Aug 2025 1200PM PTGuests: Dr. David LivingstonGuest TBDLive Streaming is at https://www.thespaceshow.com/content/listen-live with the following live streaming sites:Stream Guys https://player.streamguys.com/thespaceshow/sgplayer3/player.php#FastServ https://ic2646c302.fastserv.com/stream Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe

John Batchelor and I welcomed Rick Fisher back to the program to discuss China's space program, focusing on the Long March 10 and 9 rockets. Rick explained that the Long March 10, which recently passed a static test, is designed to transport cargo and astronauts to the moon, while the Long March 9, similar in size to SpaceX's Starship, is intended for lunar missions and eventual Mars expeditions. David asked about China’s funding of their space program given report of Chinese economic problems. Rick noted that China's space program is a priority for the Communist Party due to its strategic importance. He suggested that the Chinese government may prioritize space exploration over other areas due to its focus on maintaining power. Rick also outlined a timeline for China’s lunar program. Rick was also asked about their work on human spaceflight medical challenges plus their lunar settlement plans, if any. You might be surprised by what our guest had to say about their lunar development settlement plans/program.Special thanks to our sponsors:Northrup Grumman, American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Helix Space in Luxembourg, Celestis Memorial Spaceflights, Astrox Corporation, Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University, The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy, The Atlantis Project, and Artless EntertainmentOur Toll Free Line for Live Broadcasts: 1-866-687-7223For real time program participation, email Dr. Space at: drspace@thespaceshow.comThe Space Show is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use:To donate with Zelle, use the email address: david@onegiantleapfoundation.org.If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to:One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135Upcoming Programs:Broadcast 4422: TBD | Monday 25 Aug 2025 1200PM PTGuests: Dr. David LivingstonGuest TBDLive Streaming is at https://www.thespaceshow.com/content/listen-live with the following live streaming sites:Stream Guys https://player.streamguys.com/thespaceshow/sgplayer3/player.php#FastServhttps://ic2646c302.fastserv.com/stream Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe

Please note that we experienced unidentified audio problems for this program including callers using our toll free line. We sincerely apologize for this unfortunate audio problem.In this space policy discussion, host David and guest Michael Listener, a space attorney, addressed recent developments including potential changes to COMSTACK, budget concerns, and the Trump administration's approach to commercial space through executive orders. They explored international competition with China, regulatory challenges for lunar nuclear power, and the philosophical differences between US and European space law approaches. The conversation also covered practical ways citizens can influence space policy, though both speakers acknowledged the difficulty of accessing decision-makers without connections or expensive lobbying efforts. I also reminded listeners that the show is a nonprofit needing support, we acknowledged our sponsors and provided instructions for donors to support us as we are a listener supported program.Our guest, Michael Listener, space attorney, discussed recent developments in space policy with us. Michael explained that the reported dismissal of COMSTAC was from an executive order issued by the Trump administration, suggesting it might be a better move to start with fresh membership rather than completely eliminating the committee. Michael noted that COMSTAC only offers recommendations and cannot make policy decisions. Regarding budget cuts for science and space programs, Michael believed the administration likely has legal grounds for overriding Congressional budget decisions, noting that such actions will probably be challenged in court.I asked Michael about China potentially reaching the moon before the US, emphasizing the importance of establishing precedent and rules in space. Michael said there might probably be a bipartisan "political feeding frenzy" in Congress if China beats the US to the moon, though he doubts this would lead to sustained focus on space given today's news cycles. Michael also expressed concern about the SLS rocket program being locked into law through the CHIPS Act, describing it as "expensive and really unsustainable." He noted significant philosophical differences between US and European approaches to space law, with Europeans favoring top-down regulations while the US prefers developing laws as activities evolve.I experienced technical difficulties with the toll free phone during a call with AJ. AJ talked about the allocation of funds in a bill, specifically whether Trump could accept only certain parts (4 and 5) but not others. Michael suggested that the money was likely already appropriated so they would be stuck with it.We discussed the Trump administration's interest in space, particularly commercial space, citing a recent executive order that aims to reduce regulation, simplify environmental reviews for spaceports, and elevate the office of commercial space to report directly to the Secretary of Transportation. Michael acknowledged that while space is a priority for the administration, they have many other pressing issues to handle. I also addresses a question about NASA leadership, stating that having a dedicated administrator would be more advantageous than an acting administrator who splits time between NASA and another agency. When asked about how ordinary citizens can influence space policy, Michael suggested contacting representatives directly or getting involved with an NGO.We further discussed the challenges of influencing policy, noting that it often requires connections to decision-makers or hiring expensive lobbyists. Michael said the he liked writing articles to gain attention, occasionally working with congressional offices, though with mixed results. When asked about anti-space program sentiment, Michael indicated that while there are people who believe space funding could be better spent elsewhere, this isn't an organized movement but rather a common belief. He observes that most people generally like space and enjoy rocket launches despite lacking detailed knowledge. Both thought there was some degree of a shift in public perception toward SpaceX and Elon Musk, with people now reacting negatively to SpaceX merchandise.I brought up the regulatory implications of placing a nuclear power plant on the moon, noting that while there are international protocols for nuclear power, there aren't many binding rules yet for space activities. We said that nuclear power was necessary for lunar installations since sunlight isn't available for about two weeks at a time on the Moon. Placing a reactor there may raise some questions about sovereignty and access restrictions. Michael clarified that environmental laws are designed for Earth's biosphere and don't extend to outer space, despite some environmentalists' attempts to apply them beyond Earth. He provided examples plus he briefly talked about when environmental assessments are required for space missions, specifically for launches with radioactive power sources and for missions returning materials to Earth.In closing, Michael discussed his interest in seeing if the National Space Council reconvenes plus he wants to see whether more space policies will come from the administration before year-end. He explained that executive orders are an efficient way to implement space policy compared to legislation, though they can be reversed by future administrations. When a caller asked about effective ways to communicate with policymakers, David and Michael acknowledge the difficulty of getting direct access to government officials, suggesting that messages to the White House website are likely only tabulated statistically rather than individually considered.Special thanks to our sponsors:Northrup Grumman, American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Helix Space in Luxembourg, Celestis Memorial Spaceflights, Astrox Corporation, Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University, The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy, The Atlantis Project, and Artless EntertainmentOur Toll Free Line for Live Broadcasts: 1-866-687-7223For real time program participation, email Dr. Space at: drspace@thespaceshow.comThe Space Show is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use:To donate with Zelle, use the email address: david@onegiantleapfoundation.org.If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to:One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135Upcoming Programs:Broadcast 4421: Mari Anne Snow (Zoom & livestream) | Friday 22 Aug 2025 930AM PTGuests: Mari Anne SnowMari, CEO of Eascra Biotech, talks about their in space pioneering precision therapeutic delivery solutions for challenging tissues, including articular cartilage, kidneys, & ECMBroadcast 4422: TBD | Monday 25 Aug 2025 1200PM PTGuests: Dr. David LivingstonGuest TBDLive Streaming is at https://www.thespaceshow.com/content/listen-live with the following live streaming sites:Stream Guys https://player.streamguys.com/thespaceshow/sgplayer3/player.php#FastServhttps://ic2646c302.fastserv.com/stream Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe

Our Open Lines program began by delving into a wide-ranging discussion about space exploration topics including nuclear power on the Moon, micro reactors, and SpaceX's Starship program. Together we explored various challenges facing space missions, including regulatory hurdles, technical limitations, and the need for proper infrastructure, while also discussing the financial implications of space programs and the role of government involvement. The conversation ended with updates on upcoming events, including an art show by Dr. Ajay and discussions about Artemis program development, along with announcements about future Space Show programs. Joining us in our Zoom discussion were Marshall Martin, John Hunt, Dr. Sherry Bell, Dr. Ajay Kothari, and John Jossy. We had a call from Tony in Pasadena and a few emails from the live stream listening audience. I also talked about my recent Coast to Coast appearance on one or two specific topics in conjunction with anew Sunday Op-Ed by Mark Whitington.Discussion Review:I opened the discussing by my talking about nuclear power on the Moon during my recent Coast to Coast AM interview. I commented on the surprising opposition from some listeners, I was asked to comment on Secretary Duffy's proposal to explore nuclear power options for lunar habitats and I said that was strategically important for controlling valuable real estate under international space treaties, particularly given China's potential to claim territory around their first lunar nuclear power plant. The discussion highlighted regulatory challenges and the need for ground testing facilities. Both John Hunt and John Jossy agreed that while nuclear power would be necessary for polar region exploration, the timing might be premature without proper infrastructure in place. Again, for our Space Show program I often referred to the Whittington Op-Ed.Our Open Lines group discussed the development and implementation of micro nuclear reactors for lunar bases, with Ajay emphasizing the need for these small reactors, which could power about 1,000 homes, to be developed and tested. Marshall raised concerns about safety zones around these reactors, noting that while traditional reactors require large safety areas, micro reactors would need significantly smaller ones. I mentioned that NPR had reported on 100 kilowatt reactors, which could power a lunar base, and discussed the potential opposition and costs associated with such projects per Whittington. We also touched on the use of nuclear power in space missions and the design of a 50-megawatt reactor by Dr. Ajay, which could be scaled down for smaller applications.We talked a lot about the public understanding and interest in space exploration, with David expressing surprise at the lack of awareness about space program challenges per an email I received directly from a Coast to Coast listener. Ajay suggested this was due to the general audience's focus on other topics like world events and personal interests, while Marshall noted that even educated audiences lack depth of knowledge about space programs. The discussion concluded with John Jossy raising concerns about the technical challenges of an autonomous lunar lander mission by 2030, with Ajay agreeing it would likely be delayed until 2034 or 2035. By the way, I sent two email replies to the Coast listener that email me re challenges and negativity. I never got a reply from him. I also invited him to listen and participate in this OL program. He was a no show.Next, Marshall presented calculations on SpaceX's financial projections, estimating that Elon Musk would need approximately $1 billion for Starship testing and $15 billion for deploying 4,000 Starlink satellites. He suggested that Starlink could capture up to a quarter of the global communication services market, potentially generating between $40 billion to $200 billion annually, which could fund Musk's Mars project and other space initiatives. The discussion concluded with participants agreeing that while Musk's high unfavorable rating (67%) could pose political challenges, his influence on commercial space development would be difficult to replace, as other companies struggle to match SpaceX's progress in reusability and space technology.Next up was our discussion about the potential impact of government regulations on space exploration, with Marshall suggesting that adding bureaucracy could delay missions by 25 years. We also explored the topic of UFOs and UAPs, with John Hunt mentioning that Sean Duffy would be requesting a briefing on the subject. The conversation then shifted to the credibility of information in the UFO community, with David expressing skepticism about government and media integrity, and John Hunt discussing the potential for disinformation to discredit individuals sharing sensitive information. Personally, I believe the topic is so contaminated with bad information from everyone including government that it would be hard to believe anything regardless of the source or disclosure.August 24,SpaceX's Starship launch plans were mentioned with John Jossy reporting the next launch is scheduled for August 24, Sunday at 7:30 AM Eastern time, including testing of Starlink mass simulators and a raptor test in orbit. Ajay raised concerns about Starship's suitability for lunar missions, citing its large size and technical challenges, particularly regarding refueling and thrust-to-weight ratio for moon landings. The discussion concluded that a smaller vehicle like Blue Origin's New Glenn Mark 2 (approximately 30-40 tons) would be more suitable for Artemis missions than SpaceX's HLS concept, which Ajay argued is too heavy and complex for lunar transportation needs.The audience expressed concerns about delays in the Artemis program, particularly for Artemis 3, which is scheduled for 2027 but may be pushed to 2028. They expressed worry about the lack of coordination between independent projects, such as spacesuits and rovers, needed for the mission. Ajay mentioned that Johns Hopkins University's Applied Physics Lab is working on integrating these components through NASA contracts, but there were questions about whether this was being done effectively. The group also discussed the need for a dedicated Artemis program manager to oversee these efforts.The group discussed the importance of the double catch milestone for SpaceX's Starship program, which requires two towers for successful completion. Caller Tony shared information about a YouTube channel by Phil Sloss that provides weekly updates on Artemis development, noting that Artemis 2 is ahead of schedule. We also discussed the need for more transparency in space operations and the potential for inviting Artemis managers as guests to their program. Marshall raised questions about the cost of refurbishing Starship systems for reuse, estimating it at around 10% of the cost of a new system, though others noted that such figures are not publicly available. In learning about the excellent work by Philip Sloss regarding Artemis, I believe I spoke too soon on project management concerns for the Artemis program. I have reached out to Phil to see if he will be a Space Show guest. I will let everyone know if he accepts the invitation.Several additional topics, including the mentioning of Ajay's upcoming art show featuring 30-40 of his paintings which will be available for viewing and purchase on his website. His art website information link is posted on our blog for this program at www.thespaceshow.com. Dr. Sherry Bell mentioned Robert Zubrin's advocacy for nuclear power and his new book "The Case for Nukes." John Jossy shared information about a new book titled "A Dream Renewed: O'Neill's Vision in the 21st Century," which explores space settlements and technology. I announced upcoming guests for the Space Show, including Michael Listner discussing the administration and Comstack on Tuesday, and Mari from a biotech company focusing on artificial organs and space nanomedicine on Friday. For Sunday's show, will invite potential guests to call in and discuss their space-related projects if the scheduled guest does not confirm.Special thanks to our sponsors:Northrup Grumman, American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Helix Space in Luxembourg, Celestis Memorial Spaceflights, Astrox Corporation, Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University, The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy, The Atlantis Project, and Artless EntertainmentOur Toll Free Line for Live Broadcasts: 1-866-687-7223For real time program participation, email Dr. Space at: drspace@thespaceshow.comThe Space Show is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use:To donate with Zelle, use the email address: david@onegiantleapfoundation.org.If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to:One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135Upcoming Programs:Broadcast 4421: Mari Anne Snow (Zoom & livestream) | Friday 22 Aug 2025 930AM PTGuests: Mari Anne SnowMari, CEO of Eascra Biotech, talks about their in space pioneering precision therapeutic delivery solutions for challenging tissues, including articular cartilage, kidneys, & ECMBroadcast 4422: TBD | Monday 25 Aug 2025 1200PM PTGuests: Dr. David LivingstonGuest TBDLive Streaming is at https://www.thespaceshow.com/content/listen-live with the following live streaming sites:Stream Guys https://player.streamguys.com/thespaceshow/sgplayer3/player.php#FastServ https://ic2646c302.fastserv.com/stream Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe

John, David and Andrew Chanin (our guest) discussed UFO, ETF (Exchange Traded Fund), which offers exposure to over 40 publicly traded space-related companies worldwide. Their conversation explored investment opportunities in both public and private space companies, including large aerospace firms and emerging startups. Andrew examined investment vehicles such as ETFs, special purpose vehicles (SPVs), and private securities markets, highlighting the challenges of accessing high-profile private companies like SpaceX, which are often limited to institutional or high-net-worth investors.The discussion also emphasized the importance of understanding company profitability, investment risks, and the need for consulting financial advisors for suitability, especially for long-term goals like retirement or education.Beyond financial considerations, Andrew explored the future of space infrastructure, including lunar bases, commercial stations, and national security concerns. Our guest noted the need for capital management, technological diversity, and strategies to address satellite traffic and debris in low Earth orbit.The conversation concluded by underlining the dual-use potential (commercial and defense) of space technologies and the strategic importance of space development for both economic and military applications.Special thanks to our sponsors:Northrup Grumman, American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Helix Space in Luxembourg, Celestis Memorial Spaceflights, Astrox Corporation, Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University, The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy, The Atlantis Project, and Artless EntertainmentOur Toll Free Line for Live Broadcasts: 1-866-687-7223For real time program participation, email Dr. Space at: drspace@thespaceshow.comThe Space Show is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use:To donate with Zelle, use the email address: david@onegiantleapfoundation.org.If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to:One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135Upcoming Programs:Broadcast 4418: Michael Listner, Atty | Tuesday 19 Aug 2025 700PM PTGuests: Michael ListnerMichael will talk about administration space policy changes, commercial space and more for one hour.Broadcast 4420: Hotel Mars TBD | Wednesday 20 Aug 2025 930AM PTGuests: John Batchelor, Dr. David LivingstonHotel Mars TBDBroadcast 4420: Hotel Mars TBD | Wednesday 20 Aug 2025 930AM PTGuests: John Batchelor, Dr. David LivingstonHotel Mars TBDBroadcast 4421: Mari Anne Snow (Zoom & livestream) | Friday 22 Aug 2025 930AM PTGuests: Mari Anne SnowMari, CEO of Eascra Biotech, talks about their in space pioneering precision therapeutic delivery solutions for challenging tissues, including articular cartilage, kidneys, & ECMBroadcast 4422: TBD | Monday 25 Aug 2025 1200PM PTGuests: Dr. David LivingstonGuest TBDLive Streaming is at https://www.thespaceshow.com/content/listen-live with the following live streaming sites:Stream Guys https://player.streamguys.com/thespaceshow/sgplayer3/player.php#FastServhttps://ic2646c302.fastserv.com/stream Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe

The Space Show presents Dr. A.J. Kothar via Zoom leading a discussion on how best to return & get infrastructure to the Moon. Tuesday, August 12, 2025Our discussion centered on Ajay Kothari's proposal to use multiple Falcon Heavy rockets for lunar missions as a cost-effective alternative to NASA’s SLS and SpaceX’s Starship. Kothari argued this method could be implemented within two years at an estimated cost of $400–600 million, and would avoid political pushback by serving as a complement rather than a replacement for existing programs. His plan involves docking multiple upper stages in low Earth orbit, then sending them to the Moon to land infrastructure payloads like nuclear power components. However, participants raised concerns over technical feasibility, payload delivery, landing mechanics, and cost estimates. By the way, do see Ajay’s presentation which has been uploaded to our blog for this program.Phil presented Ajay’s slides for the group to refer to during our program. Our continued discussion addressed leveraging current SLS/Orion infrastructure, despite general dissatisfaction with their limitations.Key technical concerns included the following by those in the Zoom meeting with Dr. Kothari:* Rick questioned the structural viability of connecting multiple upper stages, referencing challenges faced by Falcon Heavy.* Phil noted possible high costs and a lack of existing control systems.* Doug challenged Ajay’s assumptions on Falcon Heavy’s actual payload capabilities, prompting references to NASA’s verified data.* Ajay explained his design accounts for partial reuse and optimized payload delivery, and he agreed to prepare a comparative metrics table for future presentations.Broader discussion shifted to Artemis program challenges, with skepticism from David and others about the realistic timeline and lack of cohesive leadership. Participants debated whether public-private partnerships, government direction, or commercial entrepreneurs like Musk and Bezos should lead space efforts. Ajay supported a hybrid approach, emphasizing infrastructure-building, not just symbolic landings.Additional topics includedThe strategic value of nuclear power (e.g., Kilopower project) for lunar manufacturing.* The importance of establishing infrastructure at the Moon’s South Pole, including potential use of water ice as a fuel resource.* Phil’s critique of NASA’s over-reliance on commercialization.* Charles’s belief that China will reach the Moon first, citing inconsistent U.S. program management.* The program concluded with debate over the realistic date for returning humans to the Moon, with predictions ranging from 2028–2029, and acknowledgments that China's progress may influence U.S. urgency.Special thanks to our sponsors:Northrup Grumman, American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Helix Space in Luxembourg, Celestis Memorial Spaceflights, Astrox Corporation, Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University, The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy, The Atlantis Project, and Artless EntertainmentOur Toll Free Line for Live Broadcasts: 1-866-687-7223For real time program participation, email Dr. Space at: drspace@thespaceshow.comThe Space Show is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use:To donate with Zelle, use the email address: david@onegiantleapfoundation.org.If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to:One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135Upcoming Programs:Broadcast 4418: Michael Listner, Atty | Tuesday 19 Aug 2025 700PM PTGuests: Michael ListnerMichael will talk about administration space policy changes, commercial space and more for one hour.Broadcast 4420: Hotel Mars TBD | Wednesday 20 Aug 2025 930AM PTGuests: John Batchelor, Dr. David LivingstonHotel Mars TBDBroadcast 4420: Hotel Mars TBD | Wednesday 20 Aug 2025 930AM PTGuests: John Batchelor, Dr. David LivingstonHotel Mars TBDBroadcast 4421: Mari Anne Snow (Zoom & livestream) | Friday 22 Aug 2025 930AM PTGuests: Mari Anne SnowMari, CEO of Eascra Biotech, talks about their in space pioneering precision therapeutic delivery solutions for challenging tissues, including articular cartilage, kidneys, & ECMBroadcast 4422: TBD | Monday 25 Aug 2025 1200PM PTGuests: Dr. David LivingstonGuest TBDLive Streaming is at https://www.thespaceshow.com/content/listen-live with the following live streaming sites:Stream Guys https://player.streamguys.com/thespaceshow/sgplayer3/player.php#FastServhttps://ic2646c302.fastserv.com/stream Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe

Our program opened with my announcing changes to the show's format, including a new Tuesday Zoom-broadcast program, a toll-free call-in line, and details about upcoming guests such as Dr. Kothari returning to the Moon plans and Andrew Chanin of the UFO ETF being on Hotel Mars for Wednesday. He reminded listeners of the show's nonprofit status and encouraged support.With Dr. Tom Matula as our guest, our main topic centered around his new MBA programs focused on space commerce which he developed at Sul Ross University in Texas.Tom introduced the 100% online, accredited MBA in space commerce, featuring 12 core business courses and 4 space-specific courses, including a capstone project. The program is asynchronous, can be completed in one year, and benefits from proximity to Texas spaceports. We also reviewed a few of the other MBA in Space Commerce programs, noting their high tuition ($102K–$131K) and its face-to-face structure with online components. Tom’s program is one of only two such specialized MBA programs in the U.S. and is part of the PASEC coalition. Tom compared his program’s tuition cost to those of the other schools that were mentioned a few minutes earlier.Texas was highlighted for its strong support of the space industry, including a $350 million grant program and a planned $200 million Mars simulation facility. The discussion also covered credit transfer policies and the need for business-savvy professionals in space ventures, especially given the exciting and rapid development of the entrepreneurial commercial space sector.In terms of commercial space exploration, Tom discussed SpaceX's Starship and Falcon 9, noting reduced costs, increased reliability, and independence from government funding, driven by Starlink revenues. Starship is expected to revolutionize satellite deployment.Tom also covered:* Job opportunities in space commerce, particularly for finance and business professionals.* The launch of a companion MBA in aerospace and defense management.* The risks of poor business management in space startups.* The potential and challenges of Helium-3 mining on the moon.Tom emphasized future commercial opportunities with lunar and Martian activities, including data centers, AI, tourism, and homesteading. He also addressed technical challenges like spacecraft refueling and the use of lunar oxygen to improve efficiency. Finally, they explored the broader future of space travel, including the potential end of SLS/Orion, rise of private space stations, and NASA's reliance on Starship for future missions. The session concluded with a reiteration of the importance of combining business and technical expertise in building a sustainable space economy.Special thanks to our sponsors:Northrup Grumman, American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Helix Space in Luxembourg, Celestis Memorial Spaceflights, Astrox Corporation, Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University, The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy, The Atlantis Project, and Artless EntertainmentOur Toll Free Line for Live Broadcasts: 1-866-687-7223For real time program participation, email Dr. Space at: drspace@thespaceshow.comThe Space Show is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use:To donate with Zelle, use the email address: david@onegiantleapfoundation.org.If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to:One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135Upcoming Programs:Broadcast 4415 (Zoom & Live Stream) Dr. Ajay Kothari | Tuesday 12 Aug 2025 200PM PTGuests: Dr. Ajay KothariSpecial time 2 PM PDT, 5 PM EDT: Zoom & Live Stream: Dr. Kothari leads a discussion regarding alternatives & options for lunar returnBroadcast 4416 Hotel Mars: Andrew Chanin | Wednesday 13 Aug 2025 930AM PTGuests: John Batchelor, Dr. David Livingston, Andrew ChaninAndrew Chanin on commercial space investing, EFTs, IPOs and moreFriday, August 15: No Program today | Friday 15 Aug 2025 930AM PTGuests: Dr. David LivingstonNo program todayBroadcast 4417 Open Lines Discussion | Sunday 17 Aug 2025 1200PM PTGuests: Dr. David LivingstonOpen Lines Discussion. We want to hear from you so call 866-687-7223-Live Streaming is at https://www.thespaceshow.com/content/listen-live with the following live streaming sites:Stream Guys https://player.streamguys.com/thespaceshow/sgplayer3/player.php#FastServ https://ic2646c302.fastserv.com/streamBe sure to check out our Substack page, doctorspace.substack.com. Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe

Hotel Mars with Rand Simberg, August 6, 2025John and I, with our guest Rand Simberg, focused this one segment Hotel Mars program on the role of commercial space with regards to our effort to return to the Moon. Rand Simberg explainrd that while NASA's Artemis program includes public-private partnerships with SpaceX and Blue Origin, Congress has been requiring the use of the Space Launch System (SLS) for the past 15 years to maintain jobs and workforce. Rand noted that the SLS program faces significant costs, with each Artemis launch averaging $30 billion. The Administration recommended ending the program after 2 more flights but Congress funded 3 additional flights plus associated hardware and infrastructure in the recently passed Big Beautiful Bill.We expressed concerns about the U.S. losing the moon race to China due to the current focus on the Space Launch System (SLS), which Rand believed is not sustainable. He suggested that the money spent on SLS could be redirected to more innovative and affordable space transportation solutions. David also noted that the NASA administrator position remains unfilled, which he sees as a potential obstacle to advancing space exploration goals.Before ending our program, Rand discussed the challenges and progress of human lunar lander development, comparing SpaceX and Blue Origin's capabilities. He noted that SpaceX is developing a larger lunar lander but faces uncertainty about refueling on orbit, while Blue Origin's timeline extends to 2030. Rand expressed confidence in SpaceX's ability to make rapid progress once they successfully launch their new version into orbit, addressing concerns about refueling.Special thanks to our sponsors:Northrup Grumman, American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Helix Space in Luxembourg, Celestis Memorial Spaceflights, Astrox Corporation, Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University, The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy, The Atlantis Project, and Artless EntertainmentOur Toll Free Line for Live Broadcasts: 1-866-687-7223For real time program participation, email Dr. Space at: drspace@thespaceshow.comThe Space Show is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use:To donate with Zelle, use the email address: david@onegiantleapfoundation.org.If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to:One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135Upcoming Programs:Broadcast 4415 (Zoom & Live Stream) Dr. Ajay Kothari | Tuesday 12 Aug 2025 200PM PTGuests: Dr. Ajay KothariSpecial time 2 PM PDT, 5 PM EDT: Zoom & Live Stream: Dr. Kothari leads a discussion regarding alternatives & options for lunar returnBroadcast 4416 Hotel Mars: Andrew Chanin | Wednesday 13 Aug 2025 930AM PTGuests: John Batchelor, Dr. David Livingston, Andrew ChaninAndrew Chanin on commercial space investing, EFTs, IPOs and moreFriday, August 15: No Program today | Friday 15 Aug 2025 930AM PTGuests: Dr. David LivingstonNo program todayBroadcast 4417 Open Lines Discussion | Sunday 17 Aug 2025 1200PM PTGuests: Dr. David LivingstonOpen Lines Discussion. We want to hear from you so call 866-687-7223-Live Streaming is at https://www.thespaceshow.com/content/listen-live with the following live streaming sites:Stream Guys https://player.streamguys.com/thespaceshow/sgplayer3/player.php#FastServhttps://ic2646c302.fastserv.com/stream Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe