Conversations with Consequences
The Catholic Association (TCA)
“Conversations with Consequences” is the voice of The Catholic Association, offering a weekly hour of thoughtful dialogue—with the leading thinkers of our time— on the most consequential issues of our day.
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Jan 3, 2020 • 48min
Ep. 37 - "Get Out Now," with Mary Hasson and Theresa Farnan
[Please note: This is a replay of one of our most popular episodes from last July. Enjoy!]
Public education in America is in a sorry state; maybe it's time to "Get Out Now." The greatest threat to our children is not poor academic performance but the push for ideological conformity in the classroom. Promoting gender ideology, kicking God out of the classroom, and encouraging a victim mentality are pillars of today's "progressive" curriculum for public school students in America. Parents can't opt their children out. Even teachers feel compelled to go along. What is the answer?
Mary Hasson, the Ethics and Public Policy Center's Kate O'Beirne Fellow, and Theresa Farnan, Phd. in philosophy, argue that the best answer is to GET OUT NOW! These two delightful women join TCA colleagues Dr. Grazie Christie, Ashley McGuire and Andrea Picciotti-Bayer to discuss the exhaustively researched new book "Get Out Now: Why You Should Pull Your Child from Public School Before It's Too Late." This is an important podcast for all parents and people interested in America's future. Maybe public schools can be fixed, but not soon enough for today's children.
Helpful links:
www.eppc.org
www.amazon.com/Get-Out-Now-Shoul…&s=gateway&sr=8-1
www.usccb.org/bible/readings/010620.cfm

Dec 27, 2019 • 50min
Ep. 36 - Medical care in Bethlehem, with Michele Burke Bowe of Holy Family Hospital
Your hosts Dr. Grazie Christie and Andrea Picciotti-Bayer are joined by Michele Burke Bowe, who tells them all about how Holy Family Hospital in Jesus’ hometown of Bethlehem is helping poor families, and especially pregnant mothers and babies, in Palestine. This year there have been nearly 5,000 babies safely delivered at the hospital.
Michele is president of the Holy Family Hospital of Bethlehem Foundation. Holy Family Hospital in Bethlehem is a Catholic teaching hospital with a state-of-the-art maternity and neonatal critical care center serving poor and at-risk women, infants, and children throughout the West Bank of Palestine, and is supported by the Order of Malta.
Shownotes:
http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings/122919.cfm
https://birthplaceofhope.org/

Dec 18, 2019 • 48min
Ep. 35 - Advent and Christmas traditions from around the world, with Father Christopher Pollard
Your hosts Dr. Grazie Christie and Andrea Picciotti-Bayer discuss their favorite Advent and Christmas traditions with Father Christopher Pollard, who is pastor of St. John the Beloved parish in McLean, VA.
They discuss German Christmas traditions that Father experienced growing up with two parents who were converts to the faith; Grazie’s Christmas experiences growing up in Cuba, Mexico, and the United States; Andrea talks about her experience of Christmas traditions in Colombia; Lessons and Carols, which comes from the Church of England tradition; the Jesse Tree; and more.
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Shownotes:
http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings/122219.cfm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_Ma%C3%B1anitas
https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/liturgicalyear/activities/view.cfm?id=545
http://www.usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/liturgical-year/advent/festival-of-lessons-and-carols.cfm

Dec 12, 2019 • 49min
Ep. 34 - Healing from human trafficking, with Laura Bramon of World Vision
Your hosts Dr. Grazie Christie and Andrea Picciotti-Bayer are joined by human trafficking expert Laura Bramon to talk about a Catholic vision of sexuality; healing from the violence of human trafficking; efforts to legalize prostitution around the world; sex slavery and trafficking as it is used by genocidal aggressors (in this case ISIS over the Yazidis); agency and freedom in relation to sexuality; runaway and homeless youth; and more.
Laura is Senior Program Manager for Child Protection and Education at World Vision, a global Christian relief, development, and advocacy organization dedicated to working with children, families, and communities in over 100 countries.
Shownotes:
http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings/121519.cfm
https://www.worldvision.org/

Dec 6, 2019 • 48min
Ep. 33 - Catholic formation in the Capital and beyond
Your hosts Dr. Grazie Christie and Andrea Picciotti-Bayer are joined by Father Charles Trullols and Emma Boyle, who both work with the Catholic Information Center in Washington D.C., a chapel and bookstore dedicated to Catholic formation and located in the heart of the city.
Father Trullols is both the director and spiritual director of the center, and Emma is director of operations at the Leonine Forum, one of CIC’s projects that aims to reach young professionals in a number of major cities around the country with educational events and pilgrimages.
Shownotes:
http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings/120819.cfm
https://www.amazon.com/Last-Homily-Conversations-Arne-Panula/dp/1949013014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9Ik6XbKJnw&feature=share
https://leonineforum.org/
https://cicdc.org/
https://cicdc.org/donate/
Twitter: @CICDC

Nov 26, 2019 • 59min
Ep. 32 - Helping the homeless and strengthening marriages in Miami
Your host Dr. Grazie Christie is joined by two amazing guests for this episode in the series “The Church on the Ground: Going Forward in Joy.” In this series we examine the ways that Catholics are putting their faith into action and making a difference “on the ground.”
Malena Legarre tells Dr. Christie about her"Brothers of the Streets”(Hermanos de la Calle) initiative at St. Agnes Parish in Key Biscayne, Florida, which aims to give kids an opportunity to serve and pray with the homeless and the addicted.
Dr. Christie also speaks with Genaro Poulat, who along with his wife helps with the “Marriage Covenant” retreats at St. Agnes, which has the goal of bringing couples closer together and closer to the Church.
Shownotes:
http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings/120119.cfm
http://hermanosdelacalle.org/
http://www.stakb.org/
http://www.stakb.org/church/CatholicChurch.php?op=Covenant_Retreat

Nov 21, 2019 • 49min
Ep. 31 - The Amazon Synod and recent developments in the Church, with Matthew Bunson of EWTN
Your hosts Dr. Grazie Christie and Andrea Picciotti-Bayer are joined by Dr. Matthew Bunson, a senior contributor to EWTN and widely respected scholar, teacher, and commentator. They discuss the recent Synod on the Amazon, as well as the fall meeting of the US Catholic Bishops and what happened at the meeting.
Dr. Bunson explains to our hosts what a synod is; the reasons why the Synod on the Amazon was called in the first place; priestly celibacy and questions about the possibility of married priests in the Amazon, and the next steps after the Synod; evangelization and the importance of not turning the Church into an “NGO;” moving the modern ecological movement into a Catholic ethos; the election of Archbishop Jose Gomez as President of the US bishops; and more.
Helpful links:
http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings/112419.cfm
https://www.ewtn.com/special-event/amazon-synod-13871
https://twitter.com/MattBunson?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/i-just-wanted-to-be-a-priest-archbishop-gomez-elected-president-of-usccb-93833
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/amazon-synod-document-calls-for-married-priests-and-increased-roll-for-women-20862

Nov 13, 2019 • 50min
Ep. 30 - The battle over religious liberty in America, with Luke Goodrich of Becket
Your hosts Grazie Christie, Ashley McGuire, and Andrea Picciotti-Bayer this week are joined by Luke Goodrich, Vice President and Senior Council at the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, a religious freedom legal advocacy group— a.k.a. “God’s ACLU.”
Luke is the author of the new book “Free to Believe: The Battle Over Religious Liberty in America.”
Discussion topics include definitions of religious freedom based on Church teaching; religious freedom as a philosophical and Scriptural issue; religious freedom as a value coming from God; secular and philosophical arguments for religious freedom; the similarities and differences between religious freedom arguments against same-sex marriage and against racial discrimination; the freedom of Catholic hospitals to operate; and more.
Helpful links:
http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings/111719.cfm
https://www.becketlaw.org/
https://www.lukegoodrich.com
https://www.amazon.com/Free-Believe-Religious-Liberty-America/dp/0525652906

Nov 7, 2019 • 53min
Ep. 29 - Mary Hasson and Beth Pearce on the transgender identity crisis
This week on the podcast, your hosts Dr. Grazie Christie and Andrea Picciotti-Bayer interview distinguished guest Mary Hasson, who is the Kate O’Beirne Fellow in Catholic Studies at the Ethics and Public Policy Center in Washington, D.C., and director the Catholic Women’s Forum.
The ladies are also joined by Beth Pearce, the mother of a transgender child, who has startling insight into how the transgender movement operates.
This week discussion points include: attempts to alter the legal definition of “sex;” gender stereotypes; mental health, anxiety and suicide rates among young people; Beth’s observance of her daughter getting hormone therapy at Planned Parenthood; the recent parental rights case involving a child in Texas; and more.
Shownotes:
https://www.usccb.org/bible/readings/111019.cfm
https://catholicherald.co.uk/magazine/the-supreme-court-gender-dysphoria-and-the-plight-of-parents/
https://www.kelseycoalition.org/
https://genderresourceguide.com/
https://eppc.org/
https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/r-g-g-r-harris-funeral-homes-inc-v-equal-opportunity-employment-commission/

Oct 31, 2019 • 48min
Ep. 28 - The benefits of marriage and stable families, with Dr. Brad Wilcox
Your hosts Dr. Grazie Christie and Ashley McGuire are joined by Dr. Brad Wilcox, a distinguished researcher who writes on marriage, parenthood, and cohabitation, and the ways that marriage, gender, and culture influence the quality and stability of family life in the United States and around the world.
They discuss the importance of fatherhood in the life of children; the benefits of growing up in an intact family, and of marriage (and marrying early!); ways to lower the divorce rate; cohabitation; and more.
Dr. W. Bradford Wilcox is Director of the National Marriage Project at the University of Virginia, Professor of Sociology at the University of Virginia, and Senior Fellow at the Institute for Family Studies.
Helpful links:
http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings/110319.cfm
https://ifstudies.org/
https://ifstudies.org/blog/conservatives-happier-at-home-worried-for-the-nation
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/october-web-only/marriage-how-baptists-catholics-helped-florida-couples.html
https://twitter.com/WilcoxNMP


