

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The Verge
Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.
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Dec 9, 2019 • 1h 1min
Recode Decode: Neal Katyal
Neal Katyal, a partner at Hogan Lovells and Supreme Court lawyer, delves into his book 'Impeach: The Case Against Donald Trump.' He argues that the evidence against Trump is compelling enough for premature termination of his first term and would advise resignation if he were his lawyer. Katyal discusses the DC establishment's struggle to grasp Trump's dishonesty and predicts that social media's influence will wane during impeachment trials. He also shares insights on the evolving legal landscape regarding tech regulation and the complexities of accountability in modern politics.

Dec 6, 2019 • 50min
Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen
Nadav Goshen, CEO of MakerBot, discusses the transformative potential of 3D printing in manufacturing and education. He reveals how their Method X printer aims to make real product manufacturing easier, while reflecting on the early hype of 3D printers becoming commonplace. The conversation delves into the vital role of technology in teaching, the sustainability challenges of 3D printing, and the shift towards localized production. Goshen also emphasizes how empowering small manufacturers can lead to innovation and change in the industry.

Dec 4, 2019 • 56min
Recode Decode: Andrea Matwyshyn
Explore the fascinating realm of the 'Internet of Bodies' as an expert discusses the integration of technology with biology. Uncover the potential benefits and risks of body-embedded devices, including the threat of hackers manipulating thoughts. Delve into the ethical implications and regulatory challenges associated with biohacking. Learn about advancements in medical technology and the need for robust legal frameworks to protect privacy and security. This conversation raises critical questions about our future relationship with technology and human capabilities.

Dec 2, 2019 • 50min
Recode Decode: Deborah Rutter
Deborah Rutter, the president of the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, discusses innovative initiatives like The Reach, which promotes immersive learning in the arts. She highlights how technology can enhance audience engagement rather than detract from it. Rutter also explores the potential for art to bridge political divides and shares her vision for the Kennedy Center's future. With insights into audience participation and the evolution of performing arts, this conversation illuminates the challenges and opportunities facing cultural institutions today.

Nov 27, 2019 • 53min
Recode Decode: Rick Smith
Rick Smith, CEO of Axon and author of "The End of Killing," discusses transforming law enforcement with non-lethal technologies like tasers. He explores the ethical implications of body cameras and facial recognition, highlighting the balance between accountability and privacy. Delving into police training, Rick unveils innovations such as virtual reality to enhance empathy among officers. The conversation provokes thought on the future of policing tech and tackling gun violence, pushing for responsible design to protect privacy rights.

Nov 25, 2019 • 60min
Recode Decode: Barry Friedman
Barry Friedman, Director of The Policing Project at NYU School of Law, dives deep into the ethics of technology in law enforcement. He discusses the critical need for accountability amid the rise of AI and facial recognition. Friedman emphasizes community involvement in policing and the shortcomings of current data practices. He highlights the urgent need for regulation to balance law enforcement effectiveness and individual privacy rights, particularly with increasingly invasive surveillance technologies.

Nov 22, 2019 • 1h 1min
Recode Decode: Innovation in the midwest
Sarah Hallberg, Medical Director at Virta Health, Eric Christopher, CEO of Zylo, and Robin Fleming, CEO of Anvl, delve into the entrepreneurial spirit of Indiana. They discuss the unique challenges and opportunities in a non-traditional tech hub, highlighting innovations in healthcare, SaaS, and worker safety. The trio emphasizes the importance of local success stories and the need for strategic investments to attract venture capital. They also explore how mobile technology can radically transform workplace safety and healthcare, showcasing the Midwest's untapped potential.

Nov 20, 2019 • 59min
Recode Decode: Jana Messerschmidt
Jana Messerschmidt, a partner at Lightspeed Venture Partners and co-founder of #ANGELS, shares her journey from tech roles at Netflix and Twitter to becoming a venture capitalist. She discusses the transformative early days of streaming and how Netflix strategically navigated the market. Messerschmidt emphasizes the importance of diversity in venture capital, detailing how #ANGELS supports not just women but all founders. The conversation also highlights the equity gap for women in tech and the urgent need for change in the industry.

Nov 18, 2019 • 1h 13min
Recode Decode: Susan Rice
Susan Rice, the former U.S. ambassador to the UN and National Security Advisor under Obama, dives into her new book, Tough Love. She critiques Trump’s 'America first' approach, emphasizing the pitfalls of isolationism. Rice discusses how social media has been weaponized to sow division, the regression of international agreements, and the urgent need for tech regulation. With insights from her personal journey, she reflects on challenges facing Africa and the evolving role of technology in diplomacy. Join her as she fights for the principles she believes in.

Nov 15, 2019 • 55min
Recode Decode: SEC Commissioner Robert Jackson
Robert Jackson, a former SEC commissioner, discusses critical issues surrounding corporate governance and dual-class stock systems. He sheds light on how companies like WeWork and Facebook maintain founder control, which can stifle accountability. Jackson reveals his opposition to rule changes that limit shareholder activism and critiques the SEC's handling of Elon Musk's Tesla settlement. The conversation emphasizes the necessity for reforms to promote investor rights and ensure better governance in the tech industry.


