The Money Trench - The Music Industry Podcast with Mark Sutherland

The Money Trench
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Mar 10, 2025 • 54min

TMT:35 Dr Charisse Beaumont on the Music Industry’s On-Going Diversity Problem and Why The Biz Needs to Take a Stand Against Trump’s DEI Rollback

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Dr Charisse Beaumont, CEO of Black Lives In Music.Discussing one of the biggest issues in the music industry, Charisse explains the need for everyone to step up when it comes to diversity, and for us all to come together to make a real difference. She also explores the idea of embracing new technologies such as AI, and even using them to tackle issues such as diversity and inclusion.From starting out in the telecommunications industry, to becoming one of the most influential CEOs in the music bizz, Charisse also tells her story and the challenges she has faced along the way. NEWSLETTERSign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories.PPL The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL.KEEP UP TO DATEFor the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on: Instagram: @the_money_trenchLinkedIn: The Money TrenchWebsite: The Money TrenchGET IN TOUCHIf you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!Thanks to our partnersPPL Earth/PercentTom A SmithAimless PlayFourth PillarSennheiserJunkhead StudioTape NotesExecutive Producer: Mike WalshProducer: Tape Notes 
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Mar 3, 2025 • 56min

TMT:34 Kate Nash on Why OnlyFans Pays Better than Spotify, Getting F*cked Over, & the Constant Fight for Change in the Industry

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by singer-songwriter Kate Nash. Digging into the current state of the music industry, Kate discusses everything from the harsh realities of touring costs, why she turned to OnlyFans, and the growing challenges artists face to making a sustainable living. From performing in the Houses of Parliament to using her voice for activism, Kate discusses finding spaces where she can make an impact. She also reflects on the enduring legacy of her hit Foundations, and the sudden silence she received from industry colleagues when she was dropped.NEWSLETTERSign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories.PPL The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL.KEEP UP TO DATEFor the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on: Instagram: @the_money_trenchLinkedIn: The Money TrenchWebsite: The Money TrenchGET IN TOUCHIf you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!Thanks to our partnersPPL Earth/PercentTom A SmithAimless PlayFourth PillarSennheiserJunkhead StudioTape NotesExecutive Producer: Mike WalshProducer: Tape Notes 
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Feb 24, 2025 • 53min

TMT:33 Steve Tannett on Marshall’s Rock Revolution & What He Learned from REM & Miles Copeland

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Steve Tannett, Director of Platforms at Marshall Group.From his punk roots to a career spanning multiple sides of the music industry, Steve looks back over his career - moving from musician to label executive, publisher, and manager. He talks about rock’s lasting cultural impact, his work with artists like R.E.M., The Go-Go’s, and Ginger Baker, and the lessons he learned from I.R.S. Records boss Miles Copeland.Steve also reflects on the challenges and privilege of launching Marshall Records from the ground up, initially as an experiment to bring the brand into the record industry. He discusses the label’s artist-first approach, and how this sets them apart from the majors. He also touches on signing Nova Twins and what’s next for the label.NEWSLETTERSign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories.PPL The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL.KEEP UP TO DATEFor the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on: Instagram: @the_money_trenchLinkedIn: The Money TrenchWebsite: The Money TrenchGET IN TOUCHIf you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!Thanks to our partnersPPL Earth/PercentTom A SmithAimless PlayFourth PillarSennheiserJunkhead StudioTape NotesExecutive Producer: Mike WalshProducer: Tape Notes 
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Feb 17, 2025 • 57min

TMT:32 Kwame Kwaten on The Future of Artist Management, and Working With Legends (Michael Jackson, Prince & Mick Jagger)

Welcome to The Money Trench! In this episode, Mark is joined by manager, record producer and director of Ferocious Talent, Kwame Kwaten.As well as catching up on the latest in the industry, including the Kanye controversy and canceled Oasis tickets, Kwame shares his perspective on the ever-evolving role of a manager in music, the responsibilities they're now having to take on, and what new deals should look like.The conversation also looks back on Kwame's long career in the business, including his journey from being an artist - performing with the likes of Michael Jackson, James Brown, and more - to discovering and auditioning Shola Ama in Hammersmith Tube station and receiving stagecraft advice from Prince!NEWSLETTERSign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories.PPL The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL.KEEP UP TO DATEFor the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on: Instagram: @the_money_trenchLinkedIn: The Money TrenchWebsite: The Money TrenchGET IN TOUCHIf you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!Thanks to our partnersPPL Earth/PercentTom A SmithAimless PlayFourth PillarSennheiserJunkhead StudioTape NotesExecutive Producer: Mike WalshProducer: Tape Notes 
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Feb 10, 2025 • 1h 1min

TMT:31 Peter Leathem on PPL’s Blockbuster Revenues, A Transformative JV with PRS and Keeping Madonna's ‘Sex’ Book Under Wraps

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Peter Leathem, CEO of PPL.As well as catching up on the week’s news, including Grammy highlights and mental health provisions from labels, Peter shares his journey with PPL, discussing the changes he’s implemented and the successes he’s achieved in shaping the company’s role in the music industry. The conversation covers how PPL continues to innovate in the music space and navigate challenges such as the DCMS committee inquiry. Beyond his work at PPL, Peter reflects on his early career as a lawyer, shares how he found his way into the music industry, and talks everything from Taylor Swift's gigs to Madonna's 'Sex' book!NEWSLETTERSign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories.PPL The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL.KEEP UP TO DATEFor the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on: Instagram: @the_money_trenchLinkedIn: The Money TrenchWebsite: The Money TrenchGET IN TOUCHIf you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!Thanks to our partnersPPL Earth/PercentTom A SmithAimless PlayFourth PillarSennheiserJunkhead StudioTape NotesExecutive Producer: Mike WalshProducer: Tape Notes 
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Feb 3, 2025 • 1h 1min

TMT:30 Sammy Andrews on the Music Industry’s Tech Revolution, and Her Most Successful Campaigns (The Prodigy, Annie Lennox & More)

Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by the CEO of Deviate Digital, Sammy Andrews.Catching up at Tileyard Studios, the conversation covers the latest news on streaming services, the future of artificial intelligence within the industry, and thoughts on misogyny in music.Sammy also shares her journey into the industry, from becoming a touring manager for Ginger Wildheart to working with The Prodigy and Annie Lennox. She explains why she adopts new technologies early and digs into the impact of social media on music.NEWSLETTERSign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories.PPL The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL.KEEP UP TO DATEFor the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on: Instagram: @the_money_trenchLinkedIn: The Money TrenchWebsite: The Money TrenchGET IN TOUCHIf you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!Thanks to our partnersPPL Earth/PercentTom A SmithAimless PlayFourth PillarSennheiserJunkhead StudioTape NotesExecutive Producer: Mike WalshProducer: Tape Notes 
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Jan 27, 2025 • 57min

TMT:29 Luke Pritchard of The Kooks on the TikTok Ban, Better Care for Young Artists, Connecting with a New Generation of Fans, and Being Naked In Front of Mick Jagger

Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark catches up with the lead singer of The Kooks, Luke Pritchard.Throughout their chat, the pair discuss the latest in the music industry, including the TikTok ban and what it means for artists, the impact of AI, and more on the Los Angeles Wildfires.Luke also talks through some of the difficulties facing young artists today and what the industry needs to do to support them, as well as sharing stories of his journey to success - including working on the band's legendary debut album, and kicking Alex Turner of The Arctic Monkeys in the face!NEWSLETTERSign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories.PPL The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL.KEEP UP TO DATEFor the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on: Instagram: @the_money_trenchLinkedIn: The Money TrenchWebsite: The Money TrenchGET IN TOUCHIf you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!Thanks to our partnersPPL Earth/PercentTom A SmithAimless PlayFourth PillarSennheiserJunkhead StudioTape NotesExecutive Producer: Mike WalshProducer: Tape Notes 
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Jan 20, 2025 • 1h 1min

TMT:28 Ruth Barlow (LIVE at ESNS) on Indie Labels Battling the Majors for Market Share, the Industry Response to the LA Fires, Partying with Adele and Risking Arrest Over Radiohead’s ‘Guerrilla’ Gig

Welcome to The Money Trench! In this special live episode at this year's ESNS conference in Groningen, Mark is joined by Ruth Barlow from Beggars and AIM.Ruth shares stories from her journey in the music industry, from her early days at Xfm to her current role at Beggars Group and AIM. She chats about how the indie sector is feeling the squeeze, the impact of big deals like Universal’s move on PIAS, and what it all means for independent labels. We're also treated to stories from her time working with legends like The White Stripes, Adele, and Radiohead.NEWSLETTERSign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories.PPL The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL.KEEP UP TO DATEFor the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on: Instagram: @the_money_trenchLinkedIn: The Money TrenchWebsite: The Money TrenchGET IN TOUCHIf you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!Thanks to our partnersPPL Earth/PercentTom A SmithAimless PlayFourth PillarSennheiserJunkhead StudioTape NotesExecutive Producer: Mike WalshProducer: Tape Notes 
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Jan 13, 2025 • 1h 7min

TMT:27 Andy Saunders on Creation Records’ Golden Years with Alan McGee, the Best PR Strategy for Crisis Management, and Working with Tony Blair and Alistair Campbell on Labour’s ‘97 Election Campaign

Welcome to The Money Trench. In the first episode of 2025, Mark is joined by Andy Saunders, legendary PR and founder of Velocity Communications.Digging into the latest industry news, Andy shares his thoughts on the music industry's current state, including record-breaking UK music consumption and the pros and cons of dynamic ticket pricing.Reflecting on his career, he takes us behind the scenes at Creation Records during its mid-‘90s heyday, working alongside Alan McGee. He shares stories of collaborating with New Labour during the pivotal ‘79 general election and recounts a memorable incident at The Music Week Awards. We also hear the highlights from his time at Velocity Communications, including PR tips and his approach to managing a recent high-profile crisis. NEWSLETTERSign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories.PPL The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL who celebrate their 90th year in business this year.KEEP UP TO DATEFor the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on: Instagram: @the_money_trenchLinkedIn: The Money TrenchWebsite: The Money TrenchGET IN TOUCHIf you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!Thanks to our partnersPPL Earth/PercentTom A SmithAimless PlayFourth PillarSennheiserJunkhead StudioTape NotesExecutive Producer: Mike WalshProducer: Tape Notes 
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Dec 16, 2024 • 57min

TMT:26 Julie Weir on the State of Rock Music, Signing Bring Me The Horizon, Rebooting Music For Nations, and How British Rock can Fight Back Against US Domination

Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by Julie Weir, Director of Sony’s Music For Nations.Catching up at Sony HQ, Mark & Julie’s conversation digs into the behind the scenes of the rock & alternative industry - discussing running Julie's independent label, Visible Noise, the challenges of touring new acts, and how she is trying to fight the US industry domination.She also looks back on signing a young Bring Me The Horizon, reflecting on why they were so successful, and talks through the importance of artists being in touch with every aspect of the industry.NEWSLETTERSign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories.PPL The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL who celebrate their 90th year in business this year.KEEP UP TO DATEFor the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on: Instagram: @the_money_trenchLinkedIn: The Money TrenchWebsite: The Money TrenchGET IN TOUCHIf you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here!Thanks to our partnersPPL Earth/PercentTom A SmithAimless PlayFourth PillarSennheiserJunkhead StudioTape NotesExecutive Producer: Mike WalshProducer: Tape Notes 

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