Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl

This week, as Drink Beer, Think Beer celebrates its one year anniversary, we’re glad to welcome J.C. Tetreault of Trillium Brewing Co. to the show.  Tetreault has packed a lot into the eight years his brewery has been open.  He’s helped establish beer styles, he’s had tremendous growth, has been the subject of intense scrutiny where he’s had to defend the brewery and its reputation, and throughout it all he’s been tinkering, and making moves, adapting, and trying to keep his thoughts on his passions and what brought him to beer in the first place.   One year ago the show was in Belgium, in a barrel cellar talking about foam. So we wanted to come back to that word along with some other F-words with Tetreault. That includes fans, festivals, and the future.  For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge.Host: John HollGuest: Jean-Claude Tetreault of Trillium BrewingTags: Beer, Craft Beer, IPA, Massachusetts, Agriculture, Saison, Foam, Beer Festivals

Orpheus Brewing in Atlanta is the fun, familiar story of a home brewer who wanted to go pro and did. Head brewer and CEO Jason Pellett has a background in music but fell in love with beer making and wanted to bring something special to his city when he and partners opened up the brewery seven years ago. He’s seen the brewery evolve over time and while he has come to embrace some traditions, and holds some things sacred he is also not afraid to mix things up in either of his roles. This means pushing the envelope of flavor but also making sure the bones of the business are solid.Among its recent initiatives is a leadership diversity program that is underway to bring the beer industry along with the times and to make sure the brewery is doing its part. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge.Host: John HollGuest: Jason Pellett of Orpheus BrewingTags: Beer, Craft Beer, IPA, Atlanta, Coolship, Saison, Brewing Diversity

Show notes from host John Holl:"Despite being one of the largest breweries in the country, I hadn’t given Lagunitas much of a thought in recent years. I’d of course see its IPA on tap at bars, back when I went to bars, and its familiar glass bottles on shelves. It was there, I was happy to see it, but usually ordered something else.  A lot of people are drinking the beer, sure, but as the beer landscape and conversation has shifted to local, some of the middle tier breweries that we’ve long known and just kind of taken for granted have been making big moves. So when the new press representative for the brewery, which has been wholly owned by Heineken for the last three years, reached out I thought it would be smart to check in and see where the brewery is at and where it’s looking to go.  Jeremy Marshall, the brewmaster, has been with the company for most of his brewing career and has seen the company grow from its once modest Petaluma, California home-base to Chicago, to overseas, and a small brewery in Seattle. Under this watch the brewery has grown from 21,000 hectoliters to over 1,000,000 hectoliters under his supervision. They are Dutch, so they use hectoliters, not barrels in their reporting.  Because of his longevity he’s seen the brewery mature over the years, from the days of being shut down by the Feds because of a joint to now looking into the non-alcoholic beer space. Of course, marijuana is still part of the culture of the company, and its infused cannabis beverages are growing in popularity but you will hear why he doesn't think a full THC and alcohol hybrid is part of a likely future. He spoke to the show from the brewery in California." For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge.Host: John HollGuest: Jeremy Marshall of Lagunitas Brewing Co. Tags: Beer, Craft Beer, IPA, non-alcoholic beer, cannabis, California, Chicago,

On this show we like to get into the mind of a brewer and find out where their daydreams and creativity take them and how that ultimately winds up in our glasses. This week host John Holl is talking with Anna Jobe the innovation brewer at Night Shift in Massachusetts on how she approaches new styles, how she determines what works and what doesn't, and how she is looking for new avenues in cider, wine, and seltzer because so many of us aren’t just drinking beer exclusively anymore more.  Anna is also an active member of Pink Boots and we dive into the importance of education in the beer industry not only for professionals but drinkers as well. People find their way to beer in all manner of ways and Anna talks about how she left one career in pursuit of fermentation and what she learned over the years and how working at Night Shift has been a true collaborative environment, something more breweries should practice.  She spoke to the show from the brewery in Massachusetts. 

There is good news in beer these days. Despite all the harm that COVID-19 is doing, there are businesses that are forging ahead and opening to the public. This week on the show we are talking with Mike Kraai of Drowned Lands Brewery in New York. The brewery has been making beer for a year now, but only opened its tasting room five weeks ago. The space is massive, suited for drinking apart during a pandemic. The 15,000 square-foot space sits on three acres, with a large lawn, ample patio, and even a second floor event space. Kraai isn’t shy about talking about the nearly $3 million he spent on the renovations to the century-old building that was once a reform school and later minimum security prison.  With a view of the Appalachian mountains, in dedicated farm country, he wants the beers to be a reflection of place, and is trying to make the most out of his New York state farm brewery license, all while playing with traditions.For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge.Host: John HollGuest: Mike KraaiTags: Beer, Craft Beer, lager, oak, IPA, Homebrewing, nanobrewery, wood, saison, New York

Joining us on the phone this week is Tomme Arthur of the Lost Abbey. In the roughly 15 years that the brewery has been open it has largely focused on Belgian-inspired ales that have helped shape the course of beer in America today.  Over the last months of COVID-19 he has had to look at his business model and find new ways to keep the lights on. This has been through new releases that include spritzy ales, pilsners, and a soon to be released hard tea.  Tomme has long talked about the importance of innovation in the beer space and is hoping that fellow brewers are using this time to forge their own path. He also wants drinkers to seek out new flavors.  He recently had the chance to taste what is happening in America right now. He spoke to the show from his brewery in Southern California, but just recently returned from Colorado where he was a judge at the 2020 Great American Beer Festival and shares some insights. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge.Host: John HollGuest: Tomme ArthurTags: Beer, Craft Beer, IPA, Hops, California, Innovation, Non-alcoholic beers, 

Justin Stambaugh started homebrewing a decade ago and quickly decided he wanted to pursue a professional career in beer. It wasn’t as easy as he had hoped but eventually he got an internship at Rip Current Brewing Co. in 2012 where he rose though the ranks, became a brewer, and even helped start that brewery’s sour program.  Eventually he decided that it was time to open his own place and didn’t even have to look too far. His new Brewery, Stave & Nail is located in the same building as Rip Current.  Justin spoke to the show from southern California. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge.Host: John HollGuest: Justin StambaughTags: Beer, Craft Beer, IPA, Sours, California, Homebrewing, San Diego, Tacos, Tequila

This is a special time of year on the beer calendar. It's fresh hop beer season and if you live in the Pacific Northwest you are likely enjoying pints of vibrantly hoppy ales. The rest of us are just dreaming of what could be. Hard to define, difficult to describe, and a revelation each time, fresh hop beers are best experienced in person where the beers were made. Zach Beckwith, the head brewer of Bend Brewing Co. has some thoughts on fresh hops and what is being done right, what could be better, and how we should approach each glass. He recently penned a column for Jeff Alworth's Beervana Blog, but goes into deeper details here. He spoke to the show from the brewery in Bend, Oregon. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge.Host: John HollGuest: Zach BeckwithTags: Beer, Craft Beer, IPA, Hops, Fresh Hops, Farming, Recipe Development, Oregon, Ales, 

There is a lot going on out West right now, some of it good – like the hop harvest – and a lot of it bad, like the fires that are raging out of control. Napa Valley is often in the news when it comes to fires in California and while it is known for wine, there is also beer to be found.  Nile Zacherle of Mad Fritz Beer straddles both worlds. He is both a wine maker and a brewer and is thoughtful about both. What might be most enjoyable about his beers is that they live inside of specific style but still never fully let that define them.  This is thanks, in part, to his approach. He brews small, he brews with local ingredients whenever possible, and isn’t afraid to let the beer follow its own direction. It’s like a trust exercise.  He’s been busy during COVID-19 while the current batch of fires is not an immediate threat, the smell of smoke in the air is a reminder that there is always a worry. And so that’s where the show starts, with the worry that comes with being in a place that could be impacted. Nile spoke to host John Holl from the brewery in California.For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge.Host: John HollGuest: Nile ZacherleTags: Beer, Craft Beer, Lager, California, Wine, Napa Valley

Show notes from host John Holl: "I love a good conversation over beer and these days it’s hard to do it in person, but it is alive online. One person I can always count on to get the brain cells working and to challenge the notions of beer is Brienne Allan, the production manager at Notch Brewing, in Salem Massachusetts.  She’s worked at the brewery for three years and handles a variety of roles and has been instrumental in getting some of the more beloved and esoteric lager projects off the ground an into production. She’s got a love of historical tradition of styles, technical knowledge, and worldly travels and revived the Pink Boots Society chapter in Massachusetts a few years back.  We get into all that and more in this conversation that bounced around topics quickly. She spoke to me from Notch, and I wanted to start off on a positive note."For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge.Host: John HollGuest: Brienne AllanTags: Beer, Craft Beer, Lager, Pink Boots Society, Massachusetts