

DRIVE TIME DEBRIEF: A Physician Wellness Podcast with The Whole Physician
Drs. Cazier, Dinsmore and Morrison
🔥 Doctors Feeling the Burnout? We’ve Been There—and We’re Here to Help You Climb Out of the Fire. 🔥
Drive Time Debrief: A Physician Wellness Podcast
Welcome to Drive Time Debrief, the anti-burnout podcast built just for physicians and healthcare providers who are ready to reclaim their joy, purpose, and well-being.
Hosted by the physician-coaches of The Whole Physician, this podcast delivers honest conversations, evidence-based tools, and practical strategies to help you navigate burnout, set boundaries, and find fulfillment in and outside of medicine.
Whether you're heading into a shift, decompressing on your commute home, or sneaking in a sanity-saving moment during your day, you’ll get bite-sized insights that speak to the *real* challenges of medical life—with compassion, candor, and a dose of humor.
If you’re tired of white-knuckling your way through your career and ready to feel like yourself again, you’re in the right place.
Episodes include:
- Physician burnout recovery stories
- Coaching tools for stress, imposter syndrome, & difficult dynamics
- Self-compassion, mindset shifts, and boundary-setting
- Conversations on career pivots, family life, and rediscovering joy
Hit subscribe and join us for a weekly debrief—because your well-being deserves to be non-negotiable.
You wouldn’t head into battle without armor, so why are we sent into the chaotic Dumpster Fire of Medicine without the tools we need to protect ourselves?
Medicine was supposed to be your calling. Instead, it feels like it’s breaking you—turning altruistic, purpose-driven, bright minds into frustrated, disillusioned, and exhausted shadows of who we used to be.
How do we know? We’ve been there. We’ve lived the long shifts, the impossible expectations, and the emotional toll. And we’ve watched too many of our peers struggle silently.
We’re The Whole Physician—three Board-Certified Emergency Physicians (and physician burnout experts) on a mission to rewrite the story of medicine. Our podcast isn’t just another pep talk. It’s a lifeline—and a quick remedy for burnout you can take with you wherever you go.
Whether you’re driving to your next shift, heading home after a long day, or taking a rare moment to breathe, our episodes are packed with practical tools and mindset shifts that actually work:
- Find hope for the future and a renewed sense of purpose
- Rediscover joy in your work and life
- Repair and strengthen relationships (even the one with yourself)
- Quiet the mental chaos and ease emotional exhaustion
- Realize you are NOT alone.
This is your space. A space where doctors like you—who keep showing up no matter what—get the care, support, and tools you deserve. You are our people. It’s about time someone put YOU first.
🎧 Ready to reclaim your hope and joy? Listen now.
Learn more at www.thewholephysician.com.
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Drive Time Debrief: A Physician Wellness Podcast
Welcome to Drive Time Debrief, the anti-burnout podcast built just for physicians and healthcare providers who are ready to reclaim their joy, purpose, and well-being.
Hosted by the physician-coaches of The Whole Physician, this podcast delivers honest conversations, evidence-based tools, and practical strategies to help you navigate burnout, set boundaries, and find fulfillment in and outside of medicine.
Whether you're heading into a shift, decompressing on your commute home, or sneaking in a sanity-saving moment during your day, you’ll get bite-sized insights that speak to the *real* challenges of medical life—with compassion, candor, and a dose of humor.
If you’re tired of white-knuckling your way through your career and ready to feel like yourself again, you’re in the right place.
Episodes include:
- Physician burnout recovery stories
- Coaching tools for stress, imposter syndrome, & difficult dynamics
- Self-compassion, mindset shifts, and boundary-setting
- Conversations on career pivots, family life, and rediscovering joy
Hit subscribe and join us for a weekly debrief—because your well-being deserves to be non-negotiable.
You wouldn’t head into battle without armor, so why are we sent into the chaotic Dumpster Fire of Medicine without the tools we need to protect ourselves?
Medicine was supposed to be your calling. Instead, it feels like it’s breaking you—turning altruistic, purpose-driven, bright minds into frustrated, disillusioned, and exhausted shadows of who we used to be.
How do we know? We’ve been there. We’ve lived the long shifts, the impossible expectations, and the emotional toll. And we’ve watched too many of our peers struggle silently.
We’re The Whole Physician—three Board-Certified Emergency Physicians (and physician burnout experts) on a mission to rewrite the story of medicine. Our podcast isn’t just another pep talk. It’s a lifeline—and a quick remedy for burnout you can take with you wherever you go.
Whether you’re driving to your next shift, heading home after a long day, or taking a rare moment to breathe, our episodes are packed with practical tools and mindset shifts that actually work:
- Find hope for the future and a renewed sense of purpose
- Rediscover joy in your work and life
- Repair and strengthen relationships (even the one with yourself)
- Quiet the mental chaos and ease emotional exhaustion
- Realize you are NOT alone.
This is your space. A space where doctors like you—who keep showing up no matter what—get the care, support, and tools you deserve. You are our people. It’s about time someone put YOU first.
🎧 Ready to reclaim your hope and joy? Listen now.
Learn more at www.thewholephysician.com.
Sound credit:
_________________________________
Fresh by MBB https://soundcloud.com/mbbofficial
Creative Commons — Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported — CC BY-SA 3.0
Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/2PK8m0A
Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/YqRO_qgBB1c
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Episodes
Mentioned books

Aug 24, 2023 • 26min
#76: Choosing Your Habits (Lessons from Atomic Habits)
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Choosing your Habits
Housekeeping: Encouragement for listeners to review, rate, and share the podcast for visibility.
Announcement of upcoming webinar on anti-burnout mindset techniques.
Discussion: Atomic Habits by James Clear
Key Principles:
Small Habits Make a Huge Difference:
Emphasis on small habits and their significant impact over time.
The analogy of a ship's rudder to illustrate tiny course corrections leading to substantial changes.
Importance of small, consistent improvements (1% better each day) to yield remarkable results.
Focus on Systems Instead of Goals:
Highlighting the difference between goals (results) and systems (actions).
The need to focus on creating effective systems that lead to desired results.
Encouragement to shift attention from goals to actions and processes.
Learn Identity-Based Habits:
Discussing the power of self-identity in shaping behavior.
The idea that current actions reflect one's self-perceived identity.
Encouragement to challenge negative self-labels and adopt a positive self-identity.
The Four Laws of Behavior Change:
Make It Obvious:
Exploring cues that trigger habits.
Examples of cues for positive habits, like placing fruit in a visible location.
Make It Attractive:
Exploring the craving phase of habit formation.
Tying desired actions to enjoyable activities, creating positive associations.
Make It Easy:
Emphasis on simplicity and automation in habit formation.
Starting with small, manageable actions and gradually building on them.
Make It Satisfying:
Discussing rewards and dopamine reinforcement.
Using rewards, habit trackers, and positive self-talk to reinforce desired behavior.
Breaking Bad Habits:
Strategies for breaking bad habits using the four laws of behavior change in reverse.
Making bad habits less obvious, less attractive, more difficult, and unsatisfying.
Importance of changing the story and self-identity associated with bad habits.
Shifting Mindset:
Highlighting the significance of changing the perspective on habits.
The concept of avoiding the "all or nothing" mindset.
Promoting self-compassion and gradual change over perfectionism.
Neuro Cycle App and Habit Formation:
Mentioning Dr. Caroline Leaf's NeuroCycle app for habit formation.
Explaining the 21/42/63-day process to build and strengthen new neural pathways.
Encouraging consistent practice and patience for habit transformation.
Webinar Announcement:
Announcing the upcoming webinar: "What's the ICD-10 Code for Injuries Sustained in a Dumpster Fire."
Details about the webinar's focus on anti-burnout techniques and personal growth.
Register here for "What's the ICD-10 Code for Injury Sustained in a Dumpster Fire?"

Aug 17, 2023 • 27min
#75: Your Future Self
Your Future Self
Show Notes:
Introduction to the Topic
Laura introduces the topic of "future you" and its importance.
Reflects on the perception of time and how we imagine our future selves.
Visualizing the Future
Discusses an article by Mariana Pogosyan, PhD, about future self.
Considers the shortness of life in terms of weeks lived.
Talks about the challenge of imagining our future selves realistically.
Importance of Future Self
Relates the concept of future self to achieving career goals (e.g., becoming a physician).
Explores the idea that many people perceive their future selves as distant and not real.
Balancing Present and Future
Discusses the concept of "myopia" (overfocus on the present) and "hyperopia" (overdelaying gratification).
Explores examples of present indulgence at the expense of the future.
Highlights the need to make decisions that benefit both present and future selves.
Strengthening the Connection with Future Self
Discusses strategies to connect with the best version of your future self.
Mentions the importance of imagining and feeling the best version of oneself.
Advice from Future Self
Encourages listeners to seek advice from their future selves for present decision-making.
Offers examples of how future self's advice can guide actions and choices.
Living in the Present
Emphasizes the significance of living in the present and finding happiness now.
Discusses the concept of happiness being in the present rather than at a future destination.
Manifesting and Empowerment
Explores the practice of manifesting and raising one's vibration.
Discusses how embodying the best version of yourself leads to different actions and results.
Accountability to Future Self
Talks about using future self as a source of accountability.
Reflects on the benefits of making choices that support future happiness.
Taking Control of Your Story
Describes the process of taking control of one's life and creating a fulfilling narrative.
Emphasizes the importance of intentional decision-making for a better life story.
Click here to read the referenced article.
Referenced Eckhart Tolle video.
Click here to access the free mini-course for residents:
Free Anti-burnout Resource for Residents
Aug 10, 2023 • 40min
Success Story- Atashi Mandal, MD: Episode #74
Join us as we interview Dr. Atashi Mandal, med/peds hospitalist and amazing human as she describes her experience in Wellness 911, our coaching plus CME course. She also shares with us some thoughts about the book The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz, which are:
1) Be impeccable with your word.
2) Don't take anything personally.
3) Don't make assumptions.
4) Always do your best.
We discuss the application of these agreements, and how they integrate with our program. Atashi is an incredibly kind, wise, insightful, and brave person--you won't want to miss hearing her story!

Aug 3, 2023 • 23min
#73: Focus
In this episode we discuss why it matters to what your brain is paying attention. There are several terms we discuss including:
selective attention: tuning out unimportant details in order to focus on what matters
mental filtering: focusing on the negative rather than the whole picture, negativity bias
disqualifying the positive: minimizing the good things in our lives
Reframing and changing perspective is key, but is NOT the same as toxic positivity. It is acknowledging that there is both good and bad in the world, but choosing to focus on the good parts on purpose.
If you're stuck in negativity, we discuss ways to challenge your point of view. Eventually, with enough practice, neuroplasticity allows our default thoughts to be much more positive.
Some quotes:
George Lucas: "Your focus determines your reality."
Tony Robbins: "Your life is controlled by what you focus on," and "energy flows where your attention goes."
Invisible Gorilla Experiment
Medical Resident Anti-Burnout Mini-Course
If you want to work with us, visit our website: www.thewholephysician.com. We have private coaching and online courses available. Additionally, we're happy to lecture for your institution. Sign up for our Weekly Well Check by clicking the link. The Weekly Well Check is your weekly dose of encouragement and your only access to secret insider sales on our products.
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Jul 27, 2023 • 54min
Understanding Narcissism with Tony Overbay, LMFT: Episode 72
In this episode, meet Tony Overbay, LMFT, Laura's favorite podcaster (besides Amanda and Kendra, of course). In addition to being a licensed marriage and family therapist, he is a popular podcaster and host of The Virtual Couch and Waking Up to Narcissism, as well as cohost of Murder on the Couch. Tony is also the developer of the The Path Back, an online course to help people recover from unhealthy coping mechanisms, in addition to his Magnetic Marriage workshop and course.
In this episode Tony:
shares his journey to becoming an LMFT from a career in the computer software industry
how he became interested in narcissism
describes narcissism and emotional immaturity
explains the difference between Narcissistic Personality Disorder and narcissistic traits
defines gaslighting and confabulation
gives his rules for engaging with narcissists
discusses trauma bonds, and so much more fascinating narcissism information!
To reach Tony, visit his website at https://www.tonyoverbay.com/.
Jul 20, 2023 • 20min
#71: Working in Government with Dara Kass, MD
In this episode, meet Dara Kass, MD. She's an Emergency Physician who now works as Regional Director for Region 2 of the US Dept of Health and Human Services. She's here to talk about how she pivoted from working in traditional clinical medicine to working in government.
In this episode Dr. Kass:
shares the inspiration behind FeminEM
tells the story how she first got started in government
explains how working in government can impact in healthcare access for all
highlights different tasks she might do in a workday
explains the difference, including ethical requirements, between elected, career, and appointed positions
suggests different ways one can get started working in government
explains common misconceptions that clinical docs might not have considered
advocates the importance of not politicizing access to equitable and safe healthcare, medications and treatments
highlights the healthcare workforce crisis and the need to revisit the sustainability of our careers
To reach Dr. Kass, email: Dara.Kass@hhs.gov
Jul 13, 2023 • 24min
#70: Five Ways Your Medical Training Has Failed You with Kristin Yates, DO
As we continue in this part 2 of our conversation with Rebel Physician founder, Dr Kristin Yates, she explains "Five Ways Your Medical Training Has Failed You."
Highlights:
The hustle culture
Lack of emphasis on mental health
No individualization
Denial of play time
Forced reliance on external validation
Whew, these are some hot topics and Dr Yates is not afraid to back down from any of them! Enjoy!
Contact Dr Yates:
Instagram: @kristinyatesdo
Rebel Physician Podcast
rebelphysician.com
Rebel Physician Community
If you want to work with us, visit our website: www.thewholephysician.com. We have private coaching and online courses available. Additionally, we're happy to lecture for your institution. Sign up for our Weekly Well Check by clicking the link. The Weekly Well Check is your weekly dose of encouragement and your only access to secret insider sales on our products.
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Jul 6, 2023 • 21min
#69: Inappropriate Things Doctors Brag About with Kristin Yates, DO
In this episode, Kristin Yates, DO joins us to talk about Inappropriate Things Doctors Brag About (and why we keep doing it).
The reason we do this is likely because of both external and internal pressures, she says. External pressures in that it's what everyone else is doing. And internal pressures in that many of us have replaced our sense of inherent worthiness as a human with having to earn our worthiness through performance.
On the list of misguided badges of honor:
Exhaustion
Being Busy
Time without a Vacation
High Patient Volume
Versus what we SHOULD be proud of:
Spending quality time with fewer patients
Resting every day and using our vacation time
Cutting back hours if we need/want to
Getting a full night of sleep
Having a day of doing nothing
Doing this is seemingly an act of rebellion in our current medical system. But the more we start doing it, the more inroads we'll make in creating a better place for ourselves and those who follow.
Dr. Yates' Instagram
Dr. Yates' Rebel Physician Website
If you want to work with us, visit our website: www.thewholephysician.com. We have private coaching and online courses available. Additionally, we're happy to lecture for your institution. Sign up for our Weekly Well Check by clicking the link. The Weekly Well Check is your weekly dose of encouragement and your only access to secret insider sales on our products.
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Jun 29, 2023 • 31min
#68: Tips for Time Management with Dr. Christina Shenvi
On today's episode we talk with Dr Christina Shenvi who candidly helps us understand that we can't buy more time, but we can be wise about the time we are given. She comes with an incredible academic pedigree including Princeton, Berkeley, Yale, and UNC. She’s a mom of 4, a practicing emergency physician, educator, keynote speaker, and leader. She’s going to talk with us about how she gets everything done with tips for time management.
Here are some highlights:
Effort has three components: direction, intensity, and perseverance.
Reflecting on if you are moving in the right direction and applying the right amount of intensity and persevering for only a given amount of time.
How to approach a challenge:
Priority: Spend time on the right things. (Can always make more money or invest money and earn interest. Can never make more time, yet we’re often more careful with our money than with how we invest our time.) Get clear on personal priorities and big values. Make sure you’re going the right direction.
Strategy: Work in the right way. Architect your day/time. Deep work, shallow work, allocating time and deciding ahead of time what you will work on.
Efficiency: Anything that requires little brainpower or that you do repeatedly, find ways to outsource, delegate, make efficient, or create shortcuts.
Reflection: Activation barrier, and why managing time is all about managing emotions.
How to find Dr Shenvi:
website: timeforyourlife.org
email: shenvi@timeforyourlife.org
Twitter: @clshenvi
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shenvi/
Books mentioned:
https://gregmckeown.com/books/essentialism/
https://comeupforair.com/
https://thework.com/instruction-the-work-byron-katie/
https://calnewport.com/writing/
If you want to work with us, visit our website: www.thewholephysician.com. We have private coaching and online courses available. Additionally, we're happy to lecture for your institution. Sign up for our Weekly Well Check by clicking the link. The Weekly Well Check is your weekly dose of encouragement and your only access to secret insider sales on our products.
If you're interested in a personal loan from Doc2Doc Lending, use our affiliate link: www.doc2doclending.com/thewholephysician
For a free quote on Own-Occupation Insurance from Pattern, use our affiliate link: patternlife.com/drivetime
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Jun 22, 2023 • 24min
#67: A "Physician's Guide to Doctoring" with Bradley Block, MD
Meet Dr. Bradley Block, otolaryngologist, husband, father, and the host of the Physician's Guide to Doctoring Podcast. We interviewed him today to get some of the best pearls he's learned over the years regarding physician wellness. He's gleans from personal experience as well as the phenomenal guests he's interviewed over the past 5 years.
We cover:
the motivation behind his podcast (hint: "everything we should have been learning when we were memorizing Krebs Cycle")
getting to the heart of what the patient is really worried about
how to use humor
some of his favorite guests so far
"knowing what's important to you and making sure you're living your life consistent with that"
the basic secrets to charting
negative visualization
a quick and dirty summary of vertigo/dizziness from an ENT's perspective
Resources:
Dr. Block on Twitter, Instagram, & LinkedIn
Physician's Guide to Doctoring Website
Dr. Block's Podcast Episode with Scott Dikkers
Dr. Block's Podcast Episode with BJ Fogg #1
Dr. Block's Podcast Episode with BJ Fogg #2
Dr. Block's Podcast Interview on Discussing Weight
Dr. Block's Podcast Interview with Drs. Jordyn Feingold and Sanj Katyal
If you want to work with us, visit our website: www.thewholephysician.com. We have private coaching and online courses available. Additionally, we're happy to lecture for your institution. Sign up for our Weekly Well Check by clicking the link. The Weekly Well Check is your weekly dose of encouragement and your only access to secret insider sales on our products.
If you're interested in a personal loan from Doc2Doc Lending, you're welcomed to use our affiliate link: www.doc2doclending.com/thewholephysician
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