

The Crisis in Education Podcast
Pivot Crisis Intervention
Educators are the backbone of our nation, and education is its lifeblood. But because of a number of issues exacerbated by politics and the pandemic, it is progressively faltering. From teacher shortages and failing schools to growing mental health issues, there is an undeniable growing crisis in Education at the individual, classroom, and school level. Though painful, with the right approaches, crises can be leveraged as an opportunity for growth. Therefore, Dr. Paul "Paulie" Gavoni hosts the Crisis in Education Podcast, where Education meets Behavior Science, to interview educational leaders, behavior scientists, and experts around the world to dissect the root causes of crisis issues and explore potential opportunities for sustainable improvement across schools and districts. [Sponsored by Pivot Crisis Intervention - pivotcrisis.com]
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Jan 3, 2025 • 1h 8min
Building Assent, Fun, and Trust: Supporting Teachers and Students in Special Education with Steve Ward
Send us Fan MailEpisode Description:In this episode of The Crisis in Education Podcast, Dr. Paulie sits down with behavior analyst and education expert Steve Ward to discuss practical strategies for supporting teachers and students—especially those with special needs—while highlighting lessons that apply to all classrooms.They dive into the critical role of assent and assent withdrawal, exploring how these concepts can be observed, measured, and taught to both teachers and parents. Steve emphasizes the importance of respecting a learner's right to say "no" and, more importantly, how to reintroduce expectations in ways that build trust, confidence, and engagement.The conversation also challenges traditional approaches to learning by making a compelling case for expanding fun—particularly social fun—as a primary goal. By prioritizing enjoyment and meaningful interactions, educators can create positive ripple effects that go far beyond preparing students to complete tasks.Tune in to learn actionable strategies, from fluency-building formats to incorporating games and routines, that help turn novelty and unpredictability into opportunities for growth. Whether you're a teacher, parent, or school leader, this episode offers insights you can apply right away to make learning more effective and enjoyable for all students.More on SteveWebsiteFacebookArticleshttps://www.archivesofpsychology.org/index.php/aop/article/view/82https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5352626/https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF03393050Webinarshttps://www.eventbrite.com/o/cabs-autism-and-behavior-specialists-34162179949PodcastsTrauma-Informed Care, Assent, and Compassion - A Call for Nuance in ABATrauma Informed Care: Some ThingsYou Should KnowPunishment on Trial in Behavior AnalysisAssent and Compliance: When to Use WhichHow to Help Individuals with Anxiety: Session 187 with Steve WardThe Case for Humor in Behavioral Interventions: Session 111 with Steve WardTeaching Kids with Autism Games and Leisure Activities: Interview with Steve WardBook linksTeaching Good Learner RepertoiresClick here to explore the Parent & Care Giving Courses today!

Dec 2, 2024 • 1h 6min
Teacher Turnover May Be a Threat to National Security: A Chat with Dr. Greg Rockhold
Send us Fan MailIn this eye-opening episode of Crisis in Education, Dr. Paulie sits down with Dr. Greg Rockhold to explore a bold and urgent topic: the growing teacher turnover crisis and its potential implications for national security. Drawing from decades of experience in education and leadership, Dr. Rockhold offers a compelling analysis of how the exodus of teachers from the profession threatens not only the quality of education but also the stability of communities and the nation's future workforce.The conversation lifts up the hood on the systemic challenges driving teacher burnout, the lack of preparation and support for educators, and how these issues ripple out to impact society on a broader scale. Together, they discuss actionable solutions grounded in behavioral science, leadership principles, and policy reform to address this alarming trend.Tune in for a powerful discussion that reframes the teacher turnover crisis as more than just an educational issue—it's a national security concern that demands immediate attention.About Dr. RockholdDr. Greg Rockhold, in his 28th. year as an educational leader, served on the Board of Directors of the National Association of Secondary School Principals (NASSP). He has served in a variety of roles, including:NASSP No Child Left Behind National Task Force,Testified in US Senate Sub-Committee Hearings on Education and New Mexico Legislature many times on behalf of public education, Presenter at NASSP Convention regarding NCLB in San Francisco and Reno,President - New Mexico Coalition of School Administrators (NMCSA),Executive Director - New Mexico Association of Secondary School Principals (NMASSP),Secretary - New Mexico Association for Supervision & Curriculum Development (NMASCD),Colorado Rural Caucus Steering Committee, NCATE - Educational Leadership Constituent Council Reviewer,Considered for a White House Appointment, McDonald’s/NASSP New Mexico Assistant Principal of the Year, Adjunct Professor with Trinity Southwest University, and USMC veteran and Eagle Scout.Greg is a professionally skilled problem solver and highly organized team builder who leads a focus on increasing student performance via targeted professional development for all staff using student data to make informed decisions.Greg is a highly effective change agent and consummate student of transformational leadership, organizational management, organizational efficiency, organizational effectiveness, organizational health, and organizational motivation.As a change agent, Greg presents a clear vision that enables communication to be a give-and-take arena; he is patient yet persistent as people are moving forward; asking the tough questions; character and credibility as Greg is knowledgeable in what he is speaking about as he builds strong relationships on a foundation of trust. He is highly approachable and reliable. While a change agent, Greg creates conditions for sustainable change that permeates the organization.People rejecting indifference – demanding excellence – PRIDE. - Greg RockholdClick here to explore the Parent & Care Giving Courses today!

Nov 20, 2024 • 39min
Making Data Matter: Christopher Hull on Stakeholder Engagement in Education
Send us Fan MailIn this episode, Christopher Hull sits down with Dr. Paulie to share his journey from the classroom to becoming a leader in educational innovation. As a former teacher, Christopher understands the challenges educators face every day and uses that experience to drive meaningful change in K-12 education. Together, he and Dr. Paulie dive into what it takes to empower teachers, improve student outcomes, and turn data into tools that truly support learning.Christopher opens up about his mission to create a better educational experience for everyone involved—students, teachers, and administrators alike. He discusses how his firsthand experiences shaped his vision and commitment to making a difference where it counts most: in the lives of students and the educators who support them. Tune in for an insightful conversation on rethinking education through passion, purpose, and practical solutions.Click here to learn more about OTUSClick here to explore the Parent & Care Giving Courses today!

Nov 7, 2024 • 49min
Measuring What Matters: Integrating School Climate into School Ratings with Dr. Skip Wilhoit
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of the Crisis in Education podcast, Dr. Paulie sits down with Dr. Skip Wilhoit to dive into a critical yet often overlooked aspect of educational success—measuring and incorporating school climate into the overall school grade. Together, they explore why a supportive, positive climate is essential for both students and educators, the ways in which it impacts academic outcomes, and how school climate metrics can—and should—be integrated into accountability systems. With a blend of candid insights and data-driven discussion, Dr. Paulie and Dr. Wilhoit make the case for why shifting the focus beyond academic scores and towards climate measurement can transform schools into healthier, more effective learning environments. This episode is a must-listen for educators, policymakers, and anyone passionate about meaningful change in education. About Dr. WhilhoitDr. Skip Wilhoit is an experienced educator and administrator specializing in school safety, student intervention, and behavioral management. He has served as the Safe Schools, Dropout Prevention, and Student Intervention Specialist for the School District of Manatee County in Florida. His work in the district includes initiatives focused on bullying prevention and character education, aiming to foster a positive and safe learning environment for students. Dr. Wilhoit has also been involved in securing significant funding for educational programs. He was awarded a $2.7 million grant to benefit his K-12 school district, reflecting his commitment to enhancing educational outcomes and addressing behavioral issues within schools. Click here to explore the Parent & Care Giving Courses today!

Oct 24, 2024 • 59min
Sustaining Excellence: How Culture Drives Teacher Retention with Martin Silverman
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Crisis in Education, we sit down with 25 year principal Martin Silverman, author of the upcoming book Sustaining Excellence: How Culture Drives Teacher Retention. Marty shares his perspective as a long-time school leader, discussing effective strategies to foster a positive school culture that encourages teacher retention. Dr. Pauile discusses the actionable approaches Marty applied as a leader and outlined in his book, ranging from building autonomy and addressing mental health to creating a "culture of yes" and nurturing a family-like atmosphere in schools. Marty emphasizes the importance of genuine connections within school communities and how these practices can reduce turnover while strengthening the bonds that keep teachers committed to their profession. If you're looking to understand how school culture can be a powerful tool for retaining great educators, this episode is for you.Click here to explore the Parent & Care Giving Courses today!

Sep 16, 2024 • 57min
The Leadership Gap: Addressing the Scarcity of Black Men in School Administration
Send us Fan MailWhy are Black men so rarely seen in leadership roles in our schools? In this episode, Dr. Paulie teams up with Dr. Bruce Tinor, a trailblazing school principal and behavior analyst—perhaps the only Black man to hold both distinctions. In it, they dissect the complex layers of systemic barriers and historical patterns that contribute to this significant underrepresentation. More importantly, they explore the potential profound impact of having Black male leaders in educational settings, discussing how their presence can enhance student outcomes, school culture, and more. Armed with Dr. Tinor’s unique insights and my behavior analysis expertise, we offer actionable strategies to dismantle these barriers. Tune in for a candid, enlightening conversation that not only challenges the status quo but also champions a vision for diverse and dynamic educational leadership.Click here to explore the Parent & Care Giving Courses today!

Aug 28, 2024 • 45min
Systematic Desensitization: Building Resilience and Fortitude in Traumatized Students Returning to School
Send us Fan MailAs students return to school, some carry the invisible burdens of trauma, which can manifest as anxiety, avoidance, and disruptive behavior in the classroom. Recognizing these challenges is critical but only the first step in a comprehensive support strategy.In this episode of the Crisis in Education Podcast, Dr. Paulie explores the application of systematic desensitization as a means of building resilience in traumatized students. Joined by Dr. Robyn Koslowitz, a respected clinical psychologist and trauma specialist, the conversation dives into how methodically and gently exposing students to feared situations within a supportive school environment can alleviate anxiety and help develop fortitude—the ultimate goal of trauma recovery. The episode also touches on the sensitive topic of suicide, offering insights into how educators can navigate these complex issues while supporting students' mental health. This discussion equips educators with practical strategies to help students overcome their fears and thrive in the school setting.Click here to explore the Parent & Care Giving Courses today!

Aug 12, 2024 • 1h 29min
Unlocking Communication and Body Language Secrets in Education with New York Times Best-selling Author Janine Driver
Janine Driver, a New York Times Best-Selling Author and former federal law enforcement officer known as the “Lyin’ Tamer,” shares her expertise on body language and communication. She discusses practical strategies for educators to enhance classroom engagement and improve school safety. Janine emphasizes the vital role of emotional intelligence in teaching and offers tips on proactive approaches to student well-being. With anecdotes from her work and her insights on connecting with students, she provides valuable tools for fostering a supportive educational environment.

Aug 2, 2024 • 1h 1min
Value-Driven Education: Applying ACT to Connect Behavior Analysts and Teachers
Send us Fan MailIn this episode, Albert and Jessica explore how behavior analysts can connect with teachers by understanding and aligning with their core values through Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT). This dynamic duo is passionate about integrating behavior analytic technologies—such as Relational Frame Theory (RFT), Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), and Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) principles—into educational settings. Their goal is to alleviate human suffering and foster collaborative relationships among stakeholders, including parents, educators, paraprofessionals, RBTs, BCBAs, and students, to achieve optimal outcomes for all involved.Listen as Albert and Jessica discuss practical strategies for building strong partnerships between behavior analysts and educators by focusing on shared values and goals. By leveraging ACT, they demonstrate how to create an educational environment where everyone thrives, supporting both teachers' and students' needs.Are you interested in developing innovative solutions and contributing to this shared vision? Albert and Jessica invite you to connect and create meaningful change with them. Reach out via email at 90a.valenzuela@gmail.com and Jessica.matus@asu.edu. Together, let's make a difference in the world of education!Click here to explore the Parent & Care Giving Courses today!

Jul 17, 2024 • 26min
When Theory Meets Practice: The Dilemma of 'Hands-Off' Policies
Send us Fan MailJoin Dr. Paulie as he takes a solo deep dive into the nuanced world of 'hands-off' policies in educational and care settings. In this compelling episode, Dr. Paulie shares firsthand experiences from the front lines of a struggling elementary school, revealing the real-life impacts and challenges of implementing 'hands-off' strategies. With decades of expertise in behavior analysis and crisis management, Dr. Paulie explores the clash between theory and practice, examining how these policies affect safety, learning, and community dynamics. Unfiltered and packed with insights, this episode is a must-listen for educators, administrators, and anyone involved in shaping safe and effective learning environments. Tune in to "Beyond the Policy" as Dr. Paulie navigates the complex terrain of educational policies with candor and expertise. Click here to explore the Parent & Care Giving Courses today!


