Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

Four men in Okmulgee, Oklahoma leave a friend's house on bikes on the evening of October 9th, 2022. Investigators believe that these men intended to commit a crime, or series of crimes. They are soon reported missing. On October 14th, their bodies are found in Deep For River having been shot and dismembered. After looking into the case officials believe that this act was premeditated.  In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss the overt violence of the murder, how to track a bicycle, how you distinguish between blood types, how investigators retrieve body parts, and much more. Subscribe to Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan : Apple Podcasts Spotify iHeart   Show Notes: 0:00 - Intro 1:12 - Background and overview of the case 3:20 - How do you track a bicycle? 9:45 - How do you calculate how far to extend your search? 12:10 - Police using tracking information to find the victims 15:30 - Bodies dumped in the river 16:15 - How is it physically possible to kill four men in a short period of time? 20:35 - What exactly is “a violent act”? 24:15 -  The steps taken in an autopsy to distinguish between blood types 29:00 - What do two different blood types look like on a slide? 30:58 - Visual deception 32:10 - Would the victim's skeleton be visible by this point? 36:10 - How does the gruesome state of the victim’s bodies interfere with being able to figure out what happened to them? 39:40 - How do you retrieve body parts and keep them in the state they’re found? 46:05 - Wrap upSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Slain New York mother Orsolya Gaal's handyman/lover avoid a murder charge by pleading guilty to manslaughter in the mother's deal.  David Bonola accepted a plead deal and will be sentenced to 25 years in prison.  Prosecutors say Bonola stabbed the 51-year-old wife and mother of two nearly 50 times in her home in April, then stuffed her dismembered body in a duffel bag and dumped it at a park. Police say Gaal and David Bonola had a two-year affair.   Chief James Essig says Bonola arrived at Gaal’s home between 12:30 a.m. and 12:40 a.m. on April 16.   An argument broke out, which continued in the basement where Gaal was stabbed with a knife from her own kitchen.  Police believe the suspect then stuffed Gaal in her son’s hockey bag.  Investigators searched the suspect’s garbage and found a bloody pair of work boots and other bloodied items.   Joining Nancy Grace Today: Matthew Mangino - Attorney, Former District Attorney, Former Parole Board Member, Author: "The Executioner's Toll: The Crimes, Arrests, Trials, Appeals, Last Meals, Final Words and Executions of 46 Persons in the United States"   Dr. Angela Arnold - Psychiatrist, (Atlanta GA) www.angelaarnoldmd.com, Expert in the Treatment of Pregnant/Postpartum Women, Former Assistant Professor of Psychiatry, Obstetrics and Gynecology: Emory University, Former Medical Director of The Psychiatric Ob-Gyn Clinic at Grady Memorial Hospital Mona Kay - Private Investigator, "Mona K Investigations" (Omaha, NE), Twitter: @monakay Dr. Tim Gallagher - Medical Examiner State of Florida www.pathcaremed.com, Lecturer: University of Florida Medical School Forensic Medicine. Founder/Host: International Forensic Medicine Death Investigation Conference Stephanie Pagones - Digital Reporter, FOX Business & Fox News, Twitter: @steph_pagones See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Police are looking for a man who tries to kidnap a 10-year-old Florida girl,  twice. Surveillance video captures the man offering her candy and money.  According to the girl's mother, the man had parked the van on the side of the street, opened the door, and asked her if she wanted some candy.  The girl is able to escape. The next day the man again approaches the girl saying," you forgot your candy yesterday." A witness asked the girl if she knew the man. The girl said no, but at the same time, the suspect says he is the girl's grandfather. The witness told the girl to run.  Joining Nancy Grace Today: James Shelnutt - 27 years Atlanta Metro Area Major Case Detective & Former S.W.A.T. officer; Attorney (Gadsden, AL), The Shelnutt Law Firm, P.C.; Twitter: @ShelnuttLawFirm Dr. Scott A. Johnson - Forensic Psychologist (Minnesota): 32 years specializing in addressing sexual predators: Author: "When “I Love You” Turns Violent" and "Physical Abusers & Sexual Offenders" Joe Scott Morgan - Professor of Forensics: Jacksonville State University, Author, "Blood Beneath My Feet;" Host: "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan" Marc Klaas - Founder, KlaasKids Foundation; Twitter: @PollyDad Alli Neal - Co-Founder, Executive Director, Revved Up Kids Nicole Partin - CrimeOnline.com Investigative Reporter; Twitter: @nicolepartin (Naples, FL)  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Young teen practices violent crime. Son's behavior leads concerned father to turn him in. Wanted man would rather attack an officer than be taken in. Elderly veteran is found brutally murdered in his home.  For more crime and justice news, go to crimeonline.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It’s been 15 years since Caylee Anthony died. Her mother, Casey Anthony, was acquitted of first-degree murder but was convicted of lying to police and served a three-year prison sentence. Now, Anthony will reportedly explain all in a new three-part docuseries airing on Peacock at the end of the month. Showrunner and Director Alexandra Dean says in a release that the programs will explore Anthony's "personal archives" and "behind the scenes" footage. Dean writes, “Since her acquittal in 2011, public opinion of Casey Anthony has been largely shaped by the media convinced of her guilt.” Anthony has never given an in-depth or on-camera interview explaining her actions.  According to Dean, Anthony had no creative control over the series, which was filmed over the course of six months.   Joining Nancy Grace Today: John W. Dill, Esquire - Personal Injury Lawyer, Winter Park, Florida; Author: "The Method: Proven Techniques for Winning Jury Trials;" Twitter/IG @JohnWDillESQ, Represents Michelle Parker's family Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst (Beverly Hills, CA), New Netflix show: 'Bling Empire'  Joe Scott Morgan - Professor of Forensics: Jacksonville State University, Author, "Blood Beneath My Feet", Host: "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan" Rob Dick - Bounty Hunter Alexis Tereszcuk - CrimeOnline.com Investigative Reporter, Writer/Fact Checker at Lead Stories; Twitter: @swimmie2009 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Surprising charges offered in plea deal for Orsolya Gaal's murder. Woman on drugs believes she "burned a witch." Thief has interesting taste in stolen goods. Attempted armed-robber ends up on the other end of the gun! For more crime and justice news, go to crimeonline.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hend Bustami gains national attention after a dine-and-dash arrest at an airport restaurant. Bustami says the arresting officer are "perverts' who have "never seen anyone as pretty" as her. Days later Bustami calls 911, telling the operator she has killed her mother. It's just another example of criminals who claim they are 'TOO PRETTY FOR JAIL."  Joining Nancy Grace Today: Kirk Nurmi - Legal Analyst and Former Lead Counsel to Jodi Arias (Phoenix, AZ), Author: "Trapped with Ms. Arias", Twitter/Instagram: @nurmiunchained  Caryn Stark - NYC Psychologist, CarynStark.com, Twitter: @carynpsych, Facebook: "Caryn Stark"  Lisa M. Dadio - Former Police Lieutenant, New Haven Police Department, Annie Le Lead Detective, Senior Lecturer, Director of the Center for Advanced Policing and Graduate Program Coordinator, Investigations program, University of New Haven (West Haven, CT) Katherine Maloney, M.D. - Deputy Chief Medical Examiner, Erie County Medical Examiner's Office, David Charns - Investigative Reporter, KLAS 8 News NOW. Facebook/Twitter: @davidcharns, Instagram: @davidcharnsnews  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Man unsuccessful at Kentucky crime spree. Hammer attack between women in a mall. Man arrest for courtroom no-show and adds explosives charges to his rap sheet.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

McKenna Brown, a teen hockey star, commits suicide after alleged bullying by three hockey teammates. The group of teens had been friends for years, but that changed when Brown asked one of the girls if it would be ok for her to begin talking with that girl's former boyfriend. The girl said yes, but her actions over the next few days proved it was far from fine. The girls allegedly began harassing Brown via text messages. Even after Brown apologized, the attacks continue.    The teammate encouraged others to cut ties with McKenna and “leave her without a single friend.” The bullies also reportedly shared deeply private information about Brown's sexual assault with other members of the hockey team. Within hours, Cheryl Brown would find her daughter dead on the bedroom floor.  Since the bullying came to light, the three teammates have been suspended pending the outcome of an investigation into what happened. The Lightning High School Hockey League launched a probe, as did the Statewide Amateur Hockey of Florida, and USA Hockey hired outside counsel to perform another review.  The girls are appealing their suspension.  No one has been charged in connection with McKenna Brown's death.  Joining Nancy Grace Today: Cheryl Brown - Victim's Mother Hunter Brown - Victim's Father, Lieutenant - Palm Harbor Fire Rescue David W. Bianchi - Attorney, Stewart Tilghman Fox Bianchi & Cain, Danny Santulli Family Attorney, "America’s leading hazing lawyer" (Miami, FL) Dr. Jorey Krawczyn  - Psychologist (Panama City Beach, FL), Adjunct Faculty with Saint Leo University; Research Consultant with Blue Wall Institute; Author: "Operation S.O.S.” Dr. Tim Gallagher - Medical Examiner State of Florida; Lecturer: University of Florida Medical School Forensic Medicine; Founder/Host: International Forensic Medicine Death Investigation Conference Titania Jordan - Chief Parenting/Marketing Officer, Bark Technologies, Author: "Parenting In A Tech World;" Instagram/Twitter: @TitaniaJordan, @BarkTechnologies  Nicole Partin - CrimeOnline Investigative Reporter; Twitter: @nicolepartin (Naples, FL) See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mother and partner starve two little girls to death. Road-rage aggressor shoots another driver who had enough. Shooter empties a magazine at his target, but the victim survives. For more crime and justice news go to crimeonline.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.