

The Indicator from Planet Money
NPR
A bite-sized show about big ideas. From the people who make Planet Money, The Indicator helps you make sense of what's happening in today's economy. It's a quick hit of insight into money, work, and business. Monday through Friday, in 10 minutes or less.LIVE TOUR & BOOK INFO: planetmoneybook.com
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Dec 4, 2025 • 9min
A little doomsday feeling is weighing on the economy
Tom Barkin, President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond, shares his insights on the economic narratives that shape monetary policy. He discusses the importance of local anecdotes in understanding consumer behavior and economic slowdowns. Barkin highlights the challenges firms face in planning layoffs and the disparity between thriving sectors and those struggling, such as agriculture. He also addresses concerns about job prospects for college graduates and the need for better training in blue-collar careers to attract workers.

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Dec 3, 2025 • 9min
How Japan’s new prime minister is jolting markets
Sanae Takaichi's ascent as Japan's first female prime minister is stirring intrigue in global markets. Her focus on addressing the rising cost of living faces skepticism from the Bank of Japan, especially regarding interest rates. As Takaichi promotes a sizeable fiscal stimulus, opinions diverge on its potential to ease inflation or exacerbate it. Meanwhile, public sentiment appears mixed, with high approval ratings juxtaposed against economic uncertainties. Exploring productivity and immigration, the discussion hints at long-term growth challenges ahead.

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Dec 2, 2025 • 9min
What would it mean to actually refund the tariffs?
Ted Murphy, a partner at Sidley Austin and expert on tariffs, dives into the complex world of tariff refunds. He discusses a significant Supreme Court case that could deem several of Trump’s tariffs illegal, potentially triggering a return of billions. Ted clarifies that it’s the importers of record who face the tab, not consumers directly. He explains that refunds may not be automatic and outlines the intricate process that importers must navigate to contest tariffs, emphasizing the importance of meticulous record-keeping.

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Dec 1, 2025 • 9min
Why the US chose not to have a passenger train system like Europe
In this discussion, Alan Zaremsky, a railroad engineering instructor at the University of Delaware, explores why the U.S. lacks a robust passenger train system like those in Europe and Japan. He explains the U.S. focus on freight over passengers due to economic priorities. Alan highlights geographical challenges and profit-driven freight models, detailing conflicts between freight and passenger needs. He also points to successful corridors and notes that building new passenger lines often requires public funding, making them less viable.

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Nov 26, 2025 • 9min
Moochers, monopolists and market-based poverty help
Join two hosts as they compete in a fun quiz about public-sector economics! Discover how the freerider problem affects public goods like national defense. Learn about the impactful breakup of Standard Oil and the implications of antitrust laws. Dive into the concept of Pigouvian taxes and their role in curbing externalities. Explore how automatic stabilizers like unemployment insurance help during recessions, and uncover alternatives like the negative income tax and UBI. It's a lively mix of trivia and economic insights!

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Nov 25, 2025 • 9min
Who's financing Meta's massive AI data center?
In rural Louisiana, Meta is constructing a staggering $30 billion AI data center called Hyperion. But they're not footing the bill alone; private credit is playing a crucial role in financing. The conversation dives into the opaque world of data center investments, raising concerns of a potential bubble fueled by loose credit. Industry experts weigh in on the risks and justifications behind such massive spending, while details about investor protections and the lease structure add layers to the discussion.

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Nov 24, 2025 • 9min
Who’s buying all the beef?
Marcelo Cervelli, manager of El Gauchito butcher shop, shares insights on Argentine beef cuts and reacts to potential increases in imports. Wendy Cutler, a seasoned trade negotiator, dives into how investment pledges really work in practice. They explore the complexities behind trade deals, such as who makes the actual purchases, and how government influences can shape buying behavior in countries like China. The discussion also highlights the intricacies of foreign investments in the U.S. and what these pledges mean for the market.

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Nov 21, 2025 • 9min
Pay transparency. The WhatsApp and Instagram decision. Our beef with screwworms.
Nick Fountain, a keen observer of economic trends, dives into the multifaceted impacts of pay transparency, revealing it can boost wages by 2.5% on average. He also discusses a fascinating research experiment where participants were paid to reduce social media usage, shedding light on consumer behavior. The conversation shifts to the alarming rise in beef prices due to screw worm flies, detailing a historical eradication effort and current containment strategies to protect cattle. Nick's insights highlight the intricate connections between economics, agriculture, and technology.

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Nov 19, 2025 • 9min
How to avoid scammers after a natural disaster
Navina Sadasabam, a Grist reporter focused on the disaster economy, discusses the insidious rise of contractor scams post-natural disasters. She shares the harrowing story of Craig Crosby, whose home was devastated by wildfire and subsequently exploited by unscrupulous contractors. The conversation unveils the tactics these scammers use, including misleading sales pitches and confusing insurance claims. Navina offers vital tips for homeowners to safeguard themselves, such as getting multiple bids and confirming communications with insurers.

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Nov 19, 2025 • 9min
Looking for love in the auto supply chain
Foreign automakers are feeling the pinch of tariffs and are turning to U.S. suppliers to avoid skyrocketing costs. A fascinating speed-dating event matches suppliers with carmakers like Honda and Mercedes. The five-minute pitch format is nerve-racking but efficient for establishing new relationships. Tariffs have spurred interest in domestic suppliers, but the lengthy validation process can slow down decisions. With rising material costs overseas, carmakers are cautiously exploring local options, all while grappling with the complexities of procurement strategies.


