Wharton FinTech Podcast
Wharton Fintech Podcast
Connecting you with the people, companies, and ideas revolutionizing global financial services. Our guests are the leading fintech founders, investors, and thinkers in the world.
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Mar 3, 2023 • 37min
Neal Desai, CEO & Co-founder of Kafene - Enabling financial flexibility through lease-to-own
Tarang Gupta hosts Neal Desai, CEO & Co-founder of Kafene, a fintech company helping consumers with affordable lease-to-own options for furniture, appliances, electronics, tires, and more.
In this episode you will hear about
- What is lease-to-own (LTO) and how it is different from the BNPL model
- Challenges of disrupting and modernizing a legacy industry
- Difference between financing companies holding risk on balance sheets vs those that operate as a marketplace
- Not letting fear dictate one's decision making process
- Value that an MBA added to Neal’s entrepreneurial journey
And much more!
About Neal Desai
Neal Desai is the Co-Founder and CEO of Kafene. Before Kafene, Neal was the CFO at Octane Lending, a fintech unicorn. Neal also has almost 15 years of experience as a portfolio manager and a trader at companies like Alpine Partners, Summit Securities, and Merrill Lynch. Neal holds an MBA from the Wharton School and a B.A. from Princeton University.
About Kafene
Kafene is a Series B fintech startup that is a point-of-sale payment partner and underwriting technology platform helping retailers offer flexible lease-to-own (LTO) purchase options for prime and nonprime consumers.
Special Announcement
The 3rd Annual Wharton Fintech Conference scheduled for March 30 and 31, 2023. This year's lineup includes speakers from Greycroft, QED Investors, Ribbit, Visa, PayPal, Chime, Ripple, and more. Go to www.whartonfintechconference.com to get tickets!
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Feb 28, 2023 • 39min
Todd Schwartz, CEO & Founder of OppFi - Helping underbanked consumers gain access to credit
Tarang Gupta hosts Todd Schwartz, CEO, Executive Chairman, and Founder of OppFi, a fintech platform that helps everyday Americans gain access to credit with digital specialty finance products.
In this episode you will hear about
- How observing pawn shops inspired Todd to start OppFi
- OppFi's partnerships with incumbent banks to provide services to underserved consumers
- Alternate data analysis and how OppFi underwrites loans
- OppFi's special 'Turn-up' program to help borrowers find lower cost debt options
And much more!
About Todd Schwatz
Todd Schwartz is the CEO, Chairman, and Founder of OppFi. He is also a Principal at Schwartz Capital Group, a dynamic family investment business based in Chicago, IL, and a Partner at Strand Equity, a LA-based growth equity firm investing in consumer brands. Previously, Todd founded the multi-family real estate company Beach Coast Properties in California. He also holds a B.S. in finance from Tulane University.
About OppFi
Based in Chicago, OppFi provides a fintech platform to streamline the personal lending process and provide access for underserved borrowers and middle-income, credit-challenged consumers who do not qualify for traditional loan options.
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Feb 23, 2023 • 32min
Coatue - Michael Gilroy, Co-Head of Growth Investing and Head of Fintech on the State of Fintech
Andrew Janssens hosts Michael Gilroy, Co-Head of Growth Investing and Head of Fintech at Coatue. Coatue is a multi-stage technology investor across both private and public markets.
In this episode you will hear about:
- Michael's investing philosophy
- The State of Fintech in 2023
- Coatue's proposed "Rule of 200" for fintech investments
- And much, much more!
About Michael Gilroy
Michael is a thought leader in the fintech space, and recently co-published "Fintech & the Pursuit of the Prize" a widely-cited assessment of the Fintech space that was presented at last year's Money 20/20. Prior to Coatue, Michael was a Partner at Canaan, an early-stage VC fund.

Feb 20, 2023 • 27min
David Yang, Partner at Activant Capital - Enabling companies that are transforming commerce
Tarang Gupta hosts David Yang, Partner at Activant Capital, a global investment firm that partners with high-growth companies that are transforming commerce.
In this episode you will hear about
- Escape velocity and hyper growth from an investor’s point of view
- What David enjoys about his role as an investor
- How Activant thinks about selecting companies to invest in
- Segments within fintech are going to boom
And much more!
About David Yang
David joined Activant in February 2021, and brings nearly fifteen years of tech investment experience across private and public markets. He helps lead the firm’s investment committee and focuses primarily on e-commerce, logistics, and B2C fintech. Prior to joining the firm, David built his investing career at TA Associates, Warburg Pincus, and Access Industries. He received his undergraduate degrees from Wharton and an MBA from Stanford Graduate School of Business.
About Activant Capital
Founded in 2015, Activant Capital is a global investment firm with offices in Greenwich, New York, Berlin, and Cape Town and $1.5 billion in assets under management. Activant believes in supporting relentless entrepreneurs who are transforming industries.
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Feb 13, 2023 • 30min
John Paasonen, Co-Founder & CEO of Maxwell - Game-changing solutions for local mortgage lenders
Tarang Gupta hosts John Paasonen, Co-Founder & CEO of Maxwell, a digital mortgage platform providing tech solutions to mortgage lending institutions across the US.
In this episode you will hear about
- Complexities creating inefficiencies in the mortgage industry
- Why John chose to focus on small to midsize lenders
- Maxwell's decision to enter the secondary market for mortgage loans
- The rising startup ecosystem in Denver
And much more!
About John Paasonen
John the Co-Founder and CEO of Maxwell. He is a fintech industry veteran with over 8 years of experience at PayPal and American Express. John founded Maxwell in 2015 after being frustrated with the mortgage process, and set about to modernize and inject transparency, equity, and efficiency into the mortgage process. John has a BA from Taylor University and an MBA from the Duke University.
About Maxwell
Founded in 2015, Maxwell was started to provide a better mortgage process for lenders and borrowers. Maxwell offers solutions that would help local mortgage lenders gain efficiency, streamline their processes, and focus on high-value work to grow their businesses and win against the industry’s largest players.
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Feb 9, 2023 • 38min
Rob Petrozzo, Co-Founder & Chief Product Officer at Rally - A 21st century portfolio for everyone
Tarang Gupta hosts Rob Petrozzo, Co-Founder and Chief Product Officer of Rally, a digital platform for buying & selling equity shares in collectible assets.
In this episode you will hear about
- Rob’s journey from a designer to a fintech entrepreneur
- Types of collectibles available on Rally
- How Rally selects and price collectibles
- Why collectibles must be a part of a 21st century portfolio
- Rob’s opinion on NFTs vs physical collectibles
And much more!
About Rob Petrozzo
Born and raised in Brooklyn, Rob was the first in his family to graduate from college. He studied Marketing Communication and Graphic Design at Philadelphia University. After college, he launched a boutique consulting firm and began a prolific career in design. Rob was quickly recognized and began designing for Kayne West, John Legend, Young Geezy, and DJ Drama. Rob regretted missed investment opportunities in fine art and collectibles because he didn’t have access to cash. For Rob, Rally’s mission is to provide access to collectibles by offering fractional ownership to the enthusiast-class.
About Rally
Rally is the pioneer alternative investing platform for blue-chip and digital collectibles, including classic cars, sports memorabilia, Birkin Bags, watches, and NFTs, totaling over 400 assets in 19+ different categories. The platform has over 400,000 users.
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Feb 6, 2023 • 31min
Archie Ravishankar, Founder & CEO of Cogni - Easy, transparent, and accessible digital banking
Tarang Gupta hosts Archie Ravishankar, Founder and CEO of Cogni, a digital platform on a mission to provide easy, transparent and accessible banking and lifestyle services.
In this episode you will hear about
- What sets Cogni apart from other digital banks
- Why Cogni decided to enter the Web3 space
- How a non custodial crypto wallet works
- Importance of sticking to one’s core values in business
- One innovator that Archie admires
And much more!
About Archie Ravishankar
Archie is the Founder and CEO of Cogni. Prior to Cogni, Archie was Investment Director at Manor Estate Family Office, Board Member at GP Pacific Engineering and Construction, and Director of Partnerships and Strategy at Hudooku Solutions. Archie is currently a Forbes Finance Council Member, a Board Member of Howard Brain Sciences Foundation, and a Board Member of Centre for Advanced Defense Studies.
About Cogni
Founded in 2018 with the idea that anyone, anywhere should be able to access personalized financial and lifestyle services, Cogni is a digital platform that provides easy access to Web2 and Web3 services (traditional finance, crypto, NFT’S, gaming and meta verse).
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Feb 2, 2023 • 28min
Alex Harris, Founder Partner at Fiat Growth - Helping fintechs scale
Tarang Gupta and Nidhi Singh host Alex Harris, Founding Partner at Fiat Growth and GP at Fiat Ventures. Fiat Growth is a growth shop focused on data backed decision making, innovation, iteration and execution.
In this episode you will hear about
- Alex’s experience of working at high-growth fintech startups
- Fiat's belief in supporting founders from underrepresented communities
- Interesting trends in the fintech industry
- Why Alex prioritized happiness over money in his career
And much more!
About Alex Harris
Alex is the Founding Partner of Fiat Growth and is a General Partner at Fiat Ventures. Alex possess deep experience as a growth operator, most recently he led Paid Growth and Partnerships at Chime, leading them from Series A to Unicorn status at Series D. At Fiat, Alex has helped many fintech brands grow including Bestow, Sundae, Root, Trellis, Simplist and Greenwood among others. Alex holds an undergraduate degree from the University of California at Berkeley, as well as a Juris Doctorate and MBA from Seattle University.
About Fiat Growth
Fiat Growth is the market leading growth shop in the startup space built to optimize growth in a capital efficient way without sacrificing the need for top talent. The diverse team includes leaders from Chime, SoFi, Paypal, Credit Karma, Steady, Unison, Ripple, Amex and other market leaders. With headquarters in SF and NYC, the team offers holistic growth tailored to a company's individual needs and goals. Areas of expertise include: Go-To-Market Strategy, Lifecycle, Referral, Paid Growth, Design, Affiliate and Strategic Partnerships, Influencer Marketing and Investment Advisory.
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Jan 30, 2023 • 35min
Miguel Fernandez Larrea, Co-Founder & CEO of Capchase - Non-dilutive financing for SaaS
Tarang Gupta and Nidhi Singh host Miguel Fernandez, CEO and Co-founder at Capchase, a growth partner for SaaS companies providing flexible and non-dilutive funding.
In this episode you will hear about
- Miguel’s entrepreneurial journey from Europe to the US
- Challenges that SaaS companies face with upfront costs
- Why Miguel enjoyed his time at Harvard Business School but still chose to dropout
- How Capchase is enabling capital access for small businesses
And much more!
About Miguel Fernandez
Miguel is Co-founder and CEO of Capchase, he lives and breathes SaaS and is constantly thinking about how to solve founders’ needs around cash and revenue management. Miguel suffered most of the pains that Capchase is trying to solve while scaling sales, customer success and international at Geoblink, before pursuing an MBA at Harvard Business School and dropping out to start Capchase in early 2020. When not at work, Miguel loves helping founders that are just starting out to help them achieve product market fit as fast as possible.
About Capchase
Founded in 2020, Capchase's mission is to help SaaS companies grow their businesses faster through non-dilutive capital, market insights, and community support.
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Jan 26, 2023 • 38min
Peter Lord, CEO and Co-Founder of Codat - Building a Universal API for SMB data
Andrew Janssens hosts Peter Lord, CEO and Founder of Codat. Peter founded Codat, "the universal API for small business data" in 2017.
Codat connects small businesses' consented data from banking, accounting and commerce platforms to fintechs and financial institutions. In June 2022, Codat raised a $100M Series C from investors including: JP Morgan, PayPal, Shopify and Plaid.
In this episode you will hear about:
- Pete's start in Computer Science and SMB lending, and how it led him to found Codat
- What being "the Universal API for Small Business" means to Codat
- Open Banking and Codat's proposal for Open Finance
- Compare and contrast on the fintech scenes in the UK and USA
- And much, much more!
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