

The Indigo Podcast
Ben Baran and Chris Everett
Take control of your life, business, and career once and for all. The Indigo Podcast offers raw, unfiltered, and science-based talk about flourishing in life. Join CEOs, executives, and regular folks in learning how to build a better future at work and beyond. Check out this top ranked podcast! For more information, visit www.indigotogether.com.
Our approach is evidence based and our conversation is quirky. In every episode, we:
1. Promote the flourishing of people and organizations.
2. Bridge the gap between social science and management practice.
3. Provide an antidote or counterpoint to the ever-increasing overly simplistic, reductionist approaches to work and life.
4. Feed the curiosity of people who want to make the world a better place through work.
5. Inspire listeners to become lifelong learners and bold difference-makers.
Our approach is evidence based and our conversation is quirky. In every episode, we:
1. Promote the flourishing of people and organizations.
2. Bridge the gap between social science and management practice.
3. Provide an antidote or counterpoint to the ever-increasing overly simplistic, reductionist approaches to work and life.
4. Feed the curiosity of people who want to make the world a better place through work.
5. Inspire listeners to become lifelong learners and bold difference-makers.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Oct 5, 2021 • 1h 19min
How Not to be Tricked
No one likes to be tricked. But it still happens sometimes, and some of us have friends who are tricked all the time. What's lacking here is a better way to make decisions and not get tricked. In this episode, we discuss: - The disinformation and misinformation landscape - Common practices that trick people - Implications for people, leaders and organizations Links and Other Information The "dirty dozen" -- article from NPR on the 12 people behind most vaccine hoaxes Idea of "pre-bunking" as discussed by the BBC The Cambridge Social Decision-Making Lab: website Drummond, C., & Fischhoff, B. (2017). Development and validation of the scientific reasoning scale. Journal of Behavioral Decision Making, 30(1), 26-38. Click here Anderson, C. A., Lepper, M. R., & Ross, L. (1980). Perseverance of social theories: The role of explanation in the persistence of discredited information. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 39(6), 1037. Click here Controlling the spread of misinformation: article from APA Monitor One basic way to think about risk All episodes of The Indigo Podcast Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter

Sep 28, 2021 • 1h 11min
Mo Gawdat on Scary Smart: The Future of Artificial Intelligence and How You Can Save Our World
Mo Gawdat is the former Chief Business Officer of Google [X] and the author of Scary Smart: The Future of Artificial Intelligence and How You Can Save Our World. In this episode, we had the chance to discuss artificial intelligence--or AI--with Mo, and we covered his view of how AI is rapidly evolving, the risks of AI, and ultimately how we can remain in control of our collective future through a thoughtful approach to our interactions with technology. Links and Other Information Scary Smart: Mo Gawdat's latest book, available Sept. 30, 2021 - check it out on Amazon Mo Gawdat's website and Slo Mo: A Podcast with Mo Gawdat Solve for Happy: Mo Gawdat's 2017 book - check it out on Amazon The "Dead-Internet Theory" - article in The Atlantic All episodes of The Indigo Podcast Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter

Sep 21, 2021 • 1h 1min
Richard Landers on Artificial Intelligence and Gamification
If you're in the fields of HR or training and development, it's likely that you've heard some about the use of artificial intelligence and gamification in organizations. One of the top experts in this area is Richard Landers, who is a professor at the University of Minnesota. He joined us for a fascinating conversation, in which we discussed: - Why technology is cool but not magic - Gamification and artificial intelligence - Implications for leaders and organizations Links and Other Information More about Richard Landers: website All episodes of The Indigo Podcast Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter

Sep 14, 2021 • 1h 9min
How to Negotiate Job Offers
Learning how to negotiate is an important skill. And one of the more common types of negotiations that we all go through has to do with job offers. So in this episode, we'll be talking about navigating job offers from the perspective of both the job candidate and from the perspective of the organization doing the hiring. Specifically, we discuss: - Basic approaches toward negotiation - Stages of the negotiation process - Additional guidance for people and hiring teams Links and Other Information Harvard Business Review article on job offers All episodes of The Indigo Podcast Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter

Sep 7, 2021 • 1h 1min
The Leadership Challenge of Remote and Flexible Work
While not all work can be done remotely, we've learned that many types of work can be done remotely or with some types of flexible arrangements. This realization isn't going away, and leaders now need to face this challenge head on. In this episode, we discuss: - What's actually going on right now - Unpacking the leadership challenge faced by many executives and managers - Implications for people, leaders, organizations Links and Other Information Top 10 Work Trends: list Updates on the top work trend White paper on telecommuting: download Related episodes: Post-Pandemic Leadership, The Four Day Work Week All episodes of The Indigo Podcast Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter

Aug 31, 2021 • 1h 1min
U.S. Representative Derek Kilmer on Modernizing Congress
Since early 2019, a group of 12 members of the U.S. House of Representatives--six Democrats and six Republicans--have been on a bold mission to fix Congress. They're members of the Select Committee on the Modernization of Congress, chaired by U.S. Representative Derek Kilmer. He joined us to talk about their efforts, including: - The origins of the committee - Recommendations it has produced - And much more Links and Other Information The Select Committee on the Modernization of Congress: website Recommendations from the committee: 117th Congress recommendations, 116th Congress recommendations June 24, 2021 full committee hearing: ""Rethinking Congressional Culture: Lessons from the Fields of Organizational Psychology and Conflict Resolution" click here All episodes of The Indigo Podcast Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter

Aug 24, 2021 • 56min
Getting Better Now: The Power of After-Action Reviews
So many times in business and in life, people and teams mess the same things up, over and over again. But one specific way in which leaders and teams can drive continual learning is through what's called the "after-action review," which we explore in this episode. - What are after-action reviews and what problems might they help address - Important elements of after-action reviews - Best practices in using after-action reviews for team members, leaders, and organizations Links and Other Information All episodes of The Indigo Podcast Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter

Aug 17, 2021 • 52min
Performance and Conflict in Diverse Teams
Work teams benefit from diverse perspectives. Yet that diversity can increase the probability of tension. In this episode, we discuss: - The relationships among diversity, conflict, and team performance - How we can think about and manage conflict within diverse teams - Implications for people, leaders, and organizations Links and Other Information Garcia‐Prieto, P., Bellard, E., & Schneider, S. C. (2003). Experiencing diversity, conflict, and emotions in teams. Applied Psychology, 52(3), 413-440. Click here Curşeu, P. L., & Schruijer, S. G. (2010). Does conflict shatter trust or does trust obliterate conflict? Revisiting the relationships between team diversity, conflict, and trust. Group Dynamics: Theory, Research, and Practice, 14(1), 66. Click here All episodes of The Indigo Podcast Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter

Aug 10, 2021 • 1h 4min
Kurt Kraiger on the Science of Workplace Instruction
If you care about workplace learning and training, this is the episode for you. Kurt Kraiger is one of the world's top experts in that space, and he joined us for a tremendous conversation about the science of workplace instruction. In this episode, we discussed: - Kurt's academic and professional journey - What is the science of workplace instruction and why do we need it - Implications for people, leaders, and organizations Links and Other Information The Science of Workplace Instruction: article by Kurt Kraiger and Kevin Ford Kurt's work on mentoring: check out this one and also this one Kurt on LinkedIn Tea and Consent: video Other experts in this area: Milt Hakel, Ed Salas All episodes of The Indigo Podcast Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter

Aug 3, 2021 • 59min
How to Make People Feel Welcomed
Being the new person can be really tough. And helping newcomers is an important part of how we make teams work and how we get along well in society. In this episode, we discuss: - What does it mean to feel welcomed - Why it matters in the workplace and in broader society - Tips for all of us Links and Other Information Siegel, A., Esqueda, M., Berkowitz, R., Sullivan, K., Astor, R. A., & Benbenishty, R. (2019). Welcoming parents to their child's school: Practices supporting students with diverse needs and backgrounds. Education and Urban Society, 51(6), 756-784. Click here Eisenkraft, N., & Elfenbein, H. A. (2010). The way you make me feel: Evidence for individual differences in affective presence. Psychological Science, 21(4), 505-510. Click here Madrid, H. P., Totterdell, P., Niven, K., & Barros, E. (2016). Leader affective presence and innovation in teams. Journal of Applied Psychology, 101(5), 673-686. Click here All episodes of The Indigo Podcast Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter


