

The Indigo Podcast
Ben Baran and Chris Everett
Take control of your life, business, and career once and for all. The Indigo Podcast offers raw, unfiltered, and science-based talk about flourishing in life. Join CEOs, executives, and regular folks in learning how to build a better future at work and beyond. Check out this top ranked podcast! For more information, visit www.indigotogether.com.
Our approach is evidence based and our conversation is quirky. In every episode, we:
1. Promote the flourishing of people and organizations.
2. Bridge the gap between social science and management practice.
3. Provide an antidote or counterpoint to the ever-increasing overly simplistic, reductionist approaches to work and life.
4. Feed the curiosity of people who want to make the world a better place through work.
5. Inspire listeners to become lifelong learners and bold difference-makers.
Our approach is evidence based and our conversation is quirky. In every episode, we:
1. Promote the flourishing of people and organizations.
2. Bridge the gap between social science and management practice.
3. Provide an antidote or counterpoint to the ever-increasing overly simplistic, reductionist approaches to work and life.
4. Feed the curiosity of people who want to make the world a better place through work.
5. Inspire listeners to become lifelong learners and bold difference-makers.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Dec 9, 2019 • 55min
Mistletoe, Mishaps, and Mandatory Fun at Work
Today we discuss … Holiday parties and other office social events GONE WILD! Office romance, fraternization, harassment and a better way forward Mandatory fun and how to approach social events as an organization or leader

Dec 3, 2019 • 1h 8min
Take This Job and Shove It: All About Burnout
This episode is all about employee and career burnout. We've all been there, or know someone who has ... but what can we do besides say, "Take this job and shove it?" Organizational researchers have evidence that offers us alternative solutions which may work out a bit better than having a Jerry Maguire moment. So today we discuss: What is burnout? How to recognize burnout in yourself and others. What can be done about burnout at the individuals and organizational levels?

Nov 26, 2019 • 1h 8min
Organizational Culture: What It Is and How to Change It
Today we discuss: Defining organizational culture Why organizational culture matters How organizational culture changes

Nov 19, 2019 • 1h 8min
The Performance Review: More Harm Than Good?
Today in the podcast, we discuss …performance reviews, also known as performance appraisals or annual reviews, along with the overall idea of managing performance for employees in organizations. Regarding the formal performance review, we'll talk about why doing these is a GOOD idea. We'll also talk about how they can be problematic along with some key implications and considerations for employees and managers. Show Notes and Resources *FYI, when you search "performance review" on Google Scholar and limit the results to the last 5 years, there's basically nothing. The first thing that pops up is about MR imaging…then there's something from on storm water management LOL! I think it's fascinating that something so popular as the performance review basically turns up crickets in the academic space. I get a few more relevant results when I search "performance appraisal," but "performance review" is basically nada.* Aguinis, H., & Pierce, C. A. (2008). Enhancing the relevance of organizational behavior by embracing performance management research. Journal of Organizational Behavior, 29, 139-145. This article is actually about why OB scholars should research the topic of performance appraisals, which is not super relevant… HOWEVER: this is an interesting introduction to the topic of the performance review because it specifically talks about the science-practice gap that is large for this particular topic (p. 139) which I think would be an interesting point for you guys to make There's also a helpful overview of performance appraisal vs. performance management in case you guys get into that distinction (p. 140) DeNisi, A. S., & Murphy, K. R. (2017). Performance appraisal and performance management: 100 years of progress? Journal of Applied Psychology, 102, 421-433. An overview/review article of the academic on performance appraisals Reviews each of the following categories in case you guys are talking about any of them: Scale format: turns out that variations in scale formats had only modest effects on the quality of rating data Training: there is consensus that training raters what not to do is ineffective. There is also consensus that training raters to adopt consistent conceptions of what represents good versus poor performance/what behaviors and competencies constitute performance is beneficial. Reactions to appraisals: justice is important! If high justice isn't perceived in the performance appraisal, then employees will have negative reactions Rating source: obtaining information from different sources can be useful, but different sources differ systematically in the conclusions they suggest about overall performance levels, and that evaluations from others are likely to be less favorable than self-evaluations Demographic effects: In some settings (especially laboratory studies), demographic variables can influence performance ratings. However, in the field, these variables do not have a large effect on performance ratings Cappelli, P., & Tavis, A. (2016). The performance management revolution. Harvard Business Review, 58-67. *I know this isn't an academic article, but it's honestly the best I found in terms of content…just wanted to make sure you guys had read it...* By some estimates, more than one-third of U.S. companies have ditched traditional performance reviews Biggest limitation of annual reviews: with their heavy emphasis on financial rewards and punishments and their end-of-year structure, they hold people accountable for past behavior at the expense of improving current performance and grooming talent for the future, both of which are critical for organizations' long-term survival Really interesting history of talent management timeline starting in the middle of the article ("How We Got Here" section) 3 reasons to drop appraisals: improves employee development, more frequent feedback is in line with agile methodology, fosters teamwork

Nov 12, 2019 • 1h 4min
Why We Hate (and Love) HR
Ben and Chris discuss: History of the HR function What's wrong with how HR often functions given the changing nature of work Why HR is essential for the success of organizations in the future and some ways it must change

Oct 31, 2019 • 1h 12min
Failure is an Option: Why Managers "Derail" and How to Avoid it
The Indigo Podcast's hosts, Ben and Chris, discuss what managerial derailment is and why it happens, practical ways in which people can reduce the probability of derailing themselves, and steps for organizations to avoid having their managers derail. Podcast articles and links mentioned by Chris and Ben: Shipper, F., & Dillard Jr, J. E. (2000). A study of impending derailment and recovery of middle managers across career stages. Human Resource Management, 39, 331-345. https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Herman_Aguinis/publication/227496278_Enhancing_the_relevance_of_organizational_behavior_by_embracing_performance_management_research/links/5c6aac7f299bf1e3a5af7079/Enhancing-the-relevance-of-organizational-behavior-by-embracing-performance-management-research.pdf Carson, M. A., Shanock, L. R., Heggestad, E. D., Andrew, A. M., Pugh, S. D., & Walter, M. (2012). The relationship between dysfunctional interpersonal tendencies, derailment potential behavior, and turnover. Journal of Business and Psychology, 27, 291-304 https://www.cbs.dk/files/cbs.dk/denisietal_jap2017.pdf Link to Be the Boss Everyone Wants to Work For https://www.amazon.com/Be-Boss-Everyone-Wants-Work/dp/1626566259/ The First 90 Days https://www.amazon.com/First-90-Days-Strategies-Expanded/dp/1422188612/ www.indigoanchor.com www.indigotogether.com

Oct 31, 2019 • 1h 10min
Flourishing in a VUCA World: Agile, Agility, and Why It Matters
The Indigo Podcast's hosts, Ben and Chris, explain the origins of VUCA and why it's relevant. They define what "agile" and "agility" mean in the context of business and management. And, they provide practical examples of agility/agile and implications for employees and managers. Podcast articles and links mentioned by Chris and Ben: Ben's agility white paper https://www.indigoanchor.com/s/Bens-SIOP-Paper.pdf On origins of VUCA https://www.indigoanchor.com/blog/2019/10/31/on-the-origins-of-vuca-and-how-it-affects-decision-making Developing strategic leadership: The US Army War College experience https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.1108/02621719210018208/full/html Agile Manifesto: http://agilemanifesto.org/ Cynefin video: https://youtu.be/N7oz366X0-8 Spotify Engineering Culture: https://youtu.be/4GK1NDTWbkY www.indigoanchor.com www.indigotogether.com

Oct 31, 2019 • 1h 21min
Scandalized By Management: A Jaded Look at Adult Working Life and How to Thrive Anyway
The Indigo Podcast's hosts, Ben and Chris, swap entertaining stories of being scandalized and surprised by incompetent management/leadership. They explore the question, "Why does incompetent management and leadership persist?" And, they offer advice on what people and organizations can do to thrive at the individual, management, and executive levels. Podcast articles and links mentioned by Chris and Ben: John Kotter What Leaders Really Do https://hbr.org/2001/12/what-leaders-really-do Situational Leadership https://www.amazon.com/Situational-Leader-Dr-Paul-Hersey/dp/0446513423 Blanchard, K. H., Zigarmi, D., & Nelson, R. B. (1993). Situational Leadership® after 25 years: A retrospective. Journal of Leadership Studies, 1(1), 21-36. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/107179199300100104 The Bowen Center for the Study of the Family https://thebowencenter.org/theory/eight-concepts/ Tarzan Approach https://sivers.org/tarzan What is industrial/organizational psychology? https://www.siop.org/Research-Publications/SIOP-Brochures Books we like https://www.amazon.com/Be-Boss-Everyone-Wants-Work/dp/1626566259 https://www.amazon.com/Chimp-Paradox-Management-Program-Confidence/dp/039916359X https://www.amazon.com/Difficult-Conversations-Discuss-What-Matters/dp/0143118447/ Mentoring: https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1996-04951-007 https://psycnet.apa.org/fulltext/2004-10572-010.html https://www.amazon.com/Blackwell-Handbook-Mentoring-Multiple-Perspectives/dp/144433543X Jane McGonigal https://www.ted.com/talks/jane_mcgonigal_the_game_that_can_give_you_10_extra_years_of_life?utm_campaign=tedspread&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=tedcomshare https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/feb/01/top-five-regrets-of-the-dying www.indigoanchor.com www.indigotogether.com

Oct 31, 2019 • 47min
Introduction to The Indigo Podcast
Ben and Chris introduce listeners to who they are, how they met, what they're doing now, why they started the podcast, and what drives them in the world of work...and beyond.


