Cloud Wars Live with Bob Evans

In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I dive into how ServiceNow is redefining enterprise automation with its new AI Experience platform.Highlights00:15 — ServiceNow has for a long time been intriguing in the way that it does not necessarily map to or compete directly against lots of the other major Cloud Wars Top 10 companies. ServiceNow has gone a different sort of route, everything they're doing from AI and workflows. The company has taken another big step with a service they introduced recently called the AI Experience.00:56 — I had a chance earlier this week to speak with ServiceNow's President, Chief Product Officer and Chief Operating Officer, Amit Zavery. Now, one of the big things that Zavery said is: "Look, just as customers got sort of over the hump of saying, okay, I've got to integrate all my applications and my databases and my systems now along comes AI."01:28 — A concern among customers has been there's going to be lots of new pieces, and the customer is going to be stuck in the middle again. Amit said that a key point here is it [AI Experience] ties together these different data types, voice, images, data, text, and everything from the people, the data and the workflows that are happening around the company.02:28 — Amit further said: "What we want to try to do here is this automation, happening with AI end-to-end, across company." So, it's not just the processes, but how the company works up and down, across the organization, and with customers and with suppliers. He said: "We're trying to ensure that customers can use AI to cut technical debt, rather than add to it."03:13 — Another big point about this was, there's lots of productivity, lots of innovation here again. He said: "Trust has never been more important." He said that the AI Experience, in tandem with the AI Control Tower from ServiceNow, is going to give customers the ability to feel very comfortable that they understand they're on top of where these AI deployments are happening.04:28 — And he talks about how ServiceNow being very open in this platform. He said: "We're finding new ways to work with the other big tech companies to ensure that customers get what they want, and that we're not forcing customers to, again, get into that big game of integration. We want more innovation and less integration." Visit Cloud Wars for more.

Amit Zavery, President, Chief Product Officer, and Chief Operating Officer at ServiceNow, sits down to talk with Bob Evans in this special episode of Cloud Wars Live. They dive deep into how ServiceNow’s AI Experience is transforming enterprise workflows through automation, governance, and personalization. Zavery outlines a bold vision for delivering real ROI and trusted AI at scale.Reimagining Workflow with AI Experience The Big Themes:ServiceNow’s AI Experience Is About Unified, Actionable Intelligence: Amit Zavery describes ServiceNow’s AI Experience as more than a conversational interface, it’s an orchestrated, end-to-end workflow platform that integrates voice, text, image recognition, agents, and enterprise systems. It’s designed to eliminate the “spare part world” of fragmented tools and disconnected apps. By delivering one multimodal, multilingual interface, ServiceNow enables users to not just find information, but actually complete tasks and workflows.AI Governance and Control Are Built In, Not Bolted On: The AI Control Tower is ServiceNow’s answer to one of the biggest enterprise challenges: AI governance. With this feature, companies can discover, monitor, and manage all AI usage, not only from ServiceNow but across third-party systems, too. CIOs and CISOs gain the ability to track who is using what AI systems, what agents are doing, and what data is being accessed.Industry-Specific Use Cases Drive Real-World AI Value: Enterprise AI Zavery says must be contextual, curated, and tightly integrated with business processes. ServiceNow is collaborating with customers like AstraZeneca (pharma), BT (telecom), and Rossmann (retail) to deploy agentic AI that delivers real value in vertical-specific environments. These aren’t generic AI chatbots; they’re intelligent agents embedded in workflows that help store managers order inventory, researchers manage supply chains, and employees navigate complex rules.The Big Quote: “I call it the spare part world we are in right now, and it’s a very difficult thing for a lot of the leaders to really keep up with it. One to know, what are you using? How are you using it? What is the ROI on it? What are the costs associated with that?” Visit Cloud Wars for more.

In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I show how SAP’s seamless data strategy is driving real business value in the age of AI. Highlights00:14 — SAP reported a very nice third quarter last week. Some highlights from SAP Q3, and then I'll do the comparisons with its competitors. So, the cloud revenue overall is up 22% to $6.14 billion. Ad their current cloud backlog, which is pretty close to RPO (Remaining Performance Obligation), the term some companies use, was up 23% to $18.1 billion.01:24 — SAP is at the top, up 22% to $6.14 billion. Second place, Workday: 14% to $2.17 billion. Then Oracle, up 11% for its SaaS products to $3.8 billion. And Salesforce: most recent quarter revenue is up 10% to $10.24 billion. SAP’s growth is more than twice as high than what Oracle and Salesforce did, and it's about 60% higher than the growth rate for Workday.02:10 — There’s a lot to think about here. What’s making this happen? I think a few things are going on. One is, certainly there’s a tendency for longtime SAP on-premise customers to slide along and go with SAP.03:06 — The other thing I think SAP has done well is evolving their applications. First, it was the Cloud ERP Suite, now the Business Suite. It's trying to make things simpler for its customers with a seamless experience, same interface, same data model. SAP, along with the others, has been doing a very good job of infusing agentic AI into their applications.04:03 — So, very nice quarter here from SAP for Q3. It continues to dramatically outpace what its competitors are doing. But there’s a lot of back and forth, a lot of vying to close that gap on the part of competitors. Visit Cloud Wars for more.

In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I unpack how Salesforce is reinventing IT support with its new Agentforce platform.Highlights00:11 — Salesforce has launched Agentforce IT Service. This product suite is described by the company as an agent-first, conversational-first IT support solution. Unlike lengthy back-and-forth interactions with service desk staff, the new system introduces a conversation-based resolution model that’s available 24/7.01:15 — Muddu Sudhakar, SVP and GM, IT and HR Service at Salesforce, said, "The fragmented, legacy ITSM model is fundamentally broken. By building Agentforce IT Service natively on the Salesforce and Service Cloud platform, we are driving a conversation-first, agent-first revolution — with product and technology innovation that transforms IT and HR..."01:43 — Agentforce IT Services represents a significant breakthrough that’s sure to save IT teams hundreds of hours with its unique agent-first, conversation-first approach. Support is instant and personalized. Salesforce has made a remarkable entrance into the ITSM space, making a powerful impact with its unified, agent-driven strategy. Visit Cloud Wars for more.

This discussion dives into a recent AWS outage and its far-reaching effects. The timing couldn't be worse, hitting just as the holiday season begins, jeopardizing customer trust and revenue. AWS’s slower growth compared to competitors like Microsoft and Google Cloud adds to the turmoil. The analysis reveals that AWS's backlog is also lagging behind other hyperscalers. With increasing pressure from AI advancements among rivals, this outage could have lasting repercussions on AWS's reputation and future.

In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at why a new Harvard-Microsoft licensing deal could be a defining moment for generative AI in medicineHighlights00:11 — Harvard University's Graduate Medical School has entered into a licensing agreement with Microsoft, enabling the company to access consumer health data. Now, Microsoft plans to utilize this wealth of health data to enhance Copilot with health-related content, which many view as part of the company's strategy to reduce its reliance on OpenAI infrastructure.01:06 — Healthcare was one of the first use cases identified for AI, and although Microsoft already has healthcare-focused AI tools, this partnership could provide the most accurate healthcare AI tool for general use cases. This situation represents a widening gap in reliance on OpenAI's large language models. Microsoft is expanding its reach with models developed by other providers.01:53 — But this also poses a threat to any dominance that OpenAI might already have in the healthcare space. ChatGPT is reported to provide sometimes inaccurate responses. While things have undoubtedly improved since ChatGPT burst onto the scene, the reliance on imperfect data can create significant risks. Consequently, Copilot could easily rise to the top spot in this domain. Visit Cloud Wars for more.

In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I talk about recent announcements from Salesforce's Dreamforce event as well as the company's move into new territories.Highlights00:15 — At Salesforce's Dreamforce, Marc Benioff described the event as the biggest one ever. Dreamforce highlighted product announcements, particularly around the Agentforce AI platform, and expanded partnerships.00:30 — One of the most intereseting pieces of this was the new reality of agentic AI with Agentforce and the rise of Salesforce Data Cloud giving the company the opportunity to move beyond the traditional boundaries of CRM into other industries, including supply chain. It's very clear that Salesforce is looking to expand its territory.01:21 — In his keynote, Marc Benioff talked about big customers, including Dell. The customer company had been facing major challenges and turned to Salesforce to overcome, modernize, and incorporate more automation and intelligence to make better decisions. So, Dell has been working with Salesforce Supply Chain which came through the acquistion of Regrello. Visit Cloud Wars for more.

In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I share Larry Ellison’s bold vision of the AI market as the biggest in history — and how Oracle plans to lead it.Highlights00:14 — Well, this is my final report here from Oracle AI World in Las Vegas. At the Financial Analyst Meeting yesterday, Oracle unveiled some truly extraordinary numbers. It said that by fiscal year 2030, its revenue is going to grow from $57 billion, about a 4x increase over that period. The strategy it has for that is "AI Everywhere."01:24 — Here are the Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) growth numbers: FY25 (just completed as of May 31): $10 billion. FY26: $15 billion. FY27: $34 billion. FY28: $77 billion. FY29: $129 billion. FY30: $166 billion. That growth, plus its applications business and its traditional business totals up to the $225 billion goal.03:39 — It's also got the database business. Powered by the AI revolution and demand for the AI database 26AI, it believes its database business could reach $20 billion by FY30. Larry Ellison even said it’s possible that the multi-cloud portion could contribute almost that much during this time. It’s a mix of technology, strategy, timing, hard work, and talent that’s brought Oracle to this point.04:19 — Clay Magouyrk, one of the two new CEOs at Oracle, said Oracle now has 700 AI infrastructure customers and that it’s growing extremely rapidly. “I believe the average deal size for those customers is $67 million,” he said. Visit Cloud Wars for more.

 AI opportunities: Despite the excitement around AI, Kaupp emphasizes the importance of understanding the technology before fully integrating it into workflows. He advocates for “literacy before agency" to understand the true impacts of what AI "can unlock."Transformation with AI: Kaupp describes the process of transforming a contract approval process using AI tools, highlighting the importance of identifying inefficiencies and becoming “client zero” for automation. He poses a question relating to assisting customers with AI adoption: “If I can't identify 'stupid' things that we're living with and transforming them, how am I going to get clients to do that?”Internal impacts: Microsoft's release of all Microsoft Learn content as an MCP server has led to an important internal transformation for ArcherPoint by Cherry Bekaert, enabling consultants and developers to use AI-powered search instead of traditional engines to quickly find relevant functionality and updates. This approach has also been applied to the organization's own codebase, allowing access to previous customer implementations.Big trends for Business Central: Across all Microsoft products, and in the case of Business Central, Kaupp shares that clients are excited about the potential of AI agents, but many are still experimenting without clear use cases. As a result, he notes, consultants often find themselves reversing client-built solutions to make them production-ready.ArcherPoint by Cherry Bekaert at Summit NA: Kaupp and the team from ArcherPoint by Cherry Bekaert will be at Community Summit NA 2025, and you can connect with the team at their Booth #1007. Kaupp will also co-lead a session on Wednesday, October 22, "Leading Through Change: Harnessing Communication and Resilience." He encourages attendees to stop by the booth and chat with him on all things AI. "I'm there to learn or to guide... to me, that is the benefit of the community. It's the benefit of why we're all there," he notes.Contributors: John Siefert, Greg KauppSearch keywords:  No transcript Can be scheduled for 9:00 AM ET on 10/17.  Visit Cloud Wars for more.

In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I dive into Oracle’s bold AI-driven transformation and its stunning forecast to reach $225 billion in annual revenue by 2030, powered by explosive OCI and multi-cloud growth.Highlights00:12 — As we wrap things up here at Oracle AI world, we had the financial analyst meeting. Oracle's Principal Financial Officer Doug Kehring revealed that Oracle has raised its revenue projections again for the future, and says that they will hit the astonishing total of $225 billion in total revenue for fiscal year 30.00:52 — This was one of the most dynamic, interesting Oracle events I've ever been to. So when I talk about them being on fire, it's powered by their hyper growth OCI business. But it goes beyond that to what they're doing across the board and the AI Revolution really kicking in. It's why Larry Ellison pivoted the entire company to integrate AI in everything that they do.01:55 — The company's two new CEOs, Clay Magouyrk and Mike Sicilia, along with Larry Ellison, repeated throughout the event: "There's no limitation on us about demand. We have more demand by far than we can handle. We are supply-constrained. And they revealed a lot of plans about all the things Oracle is doing to be able to overcome that capacity constraint."02:21 — So, it is not just OpenAI. They talked about how the RPO, which when they released their numbers a few weeks ago, that is for the quarter ending August 31, their RPO was $455 billion in just the six or seven weeks since that quarter ended, that RPO is now over $500 billion. So again, it was not just the big deal with OpenAI.04:25 — We'll have more coming up next week. I'll go into more detail about this. But part of what was so interesting at this financial analyst meeting today, Larry Ellison talked said: "What about in the areas of like plant genomes?" Larry Ellison wove together the ideas of how this new Oracle Database along with the Oracle AI Data Platform is going to make that possible. Visit Cloud Wars for more.