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Bob Evans
Cloud Wars analyzes the major cloud vendors from the perspective of business customers. In Cloud Wars Live, Bob Evans talks with both sides about these profoundly transformative technologies, and with monthly All-Star guests from across the business community about the trends impacting how the world lives, works, plays, and dreams. Visit https://cloudwars.com for more.
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Apr 3, 2026 • 3min
Microsoft Links ERP Success to AI with Business Central Insights
In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I examine how Business Central is transforming ERP with strong financial returns and AI-driven capabilities.
Highlights
00:10 — A new Forrester report commissioned by Microsoft, entitled "The Total Economic Impact of Microsoft Dynamics 365 Business Central," has revealed some remarkable findings regarding the financial impact this standout cloud ERP is having on customers.
00:36 — And here's what it found: 209% ROI over three years, an estimated $464,000 net present value, and potential payback in just six months. The researchers aggregated the findings from interviewees and created a fictitious composite organization to develop this model.
00:58 — In their modeling, the researchers found that by year three, the composite company was experiencing a 30% reduction in monthly close time and up to 50% time savings for accounts payable, accounts receivable, and billing. It reduced audit preparation time by up to 30%.
01:19 — Consolidating outdated ERP products and systems led to more than a 10% reduction in total cost of ownership and over $170,000 in present value savings from withdrawn systems and decreased maintenance.
01:37 — Microsoft links these impressive results to how Business Central represents an AI-ready ERP foundation, enabling organizations to leverage Copilot, Power BI, and intelligent agents while emphasizing clean data, integrated systems, and standardized processes.
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Apr 2, 2026 • 3min
Reducing Fraud with AI Agents in Accounts Payable
In this AI Agent & Copilot Minute, Mason Siefert explores how Dynamics 365 is evolving into the agentic era — transforming financial reconciliation and accounts payable into continuous, intelligent processes, and previews what’s ahead at Summit North America 2026.
Key Takeaways
Agent Evolution: The journey from manual processes to copilots and now fully autonomous agents marks a fundamental shift in enterprise finance. While early tools accelerated workflows, today’s agents proactively execute tasks end-to-end, reducing human intervention and enabling finance professionals to focus on higher-value strategic work rather than repetitive operations.
Continuous Finance: Financial reconciliation has transformed from a stressful, multi-day effort into an always-on background process. Autonomous agents continuously match and verify records across systems, eliminating bottlenecks and dramatically improving efficiency, accuracy, and consistency across financial operations without requiring manual initiation.
Fraud Reduction: Accounts payable agents not only automate invoice matching but actively reduce fraud risk by cross-referencing invoices against purchase orders and learning from human corrections. With organizations facing high rates of fraud attempts, these adaptive systems provide a critical layer of intelligence and protection while minimizing costly manual errors.
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Apr 2, 2026 • 5min
Oracle’s ‘AI Changes Everything’ Mantra Pushes Agentic AI into the AI Database
In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I unpack how Oracle is redefining data activation with agentic AI capabilities.
Highlights
00:03 — I recently talked about some big plans that Oracle has for fusing agentic AI into its applications and calling those Oracle agentic applications. Now it's extended its whole mantra from a couple of years ago that came from Chairman and Founder, Larry Ellison, where he said AI changes everything.
00:28 — Oracle's taken that very much to heart, and they're extending their agentic AI push deeply into their AI Database. There's a couple things I want to point out. In the larger sense, I think what's going on here is we're seeing the hunted turn into the hunter, right?
01:20 — I think in large part, not so much that the theory was wrong, although I do think it is wrong, but more because Oracle took the initiative, and instead, its pace of innovation and change and product development and customer-centric enhancements have been at a pace far beyond what any of these single-purpose competitors are doing.
02:12 — Now with AI, the point of Oracle's move here is to say we're going to bring AI to the data, instead of having to move all the data around here. And nobody's in a better position to be able to do that now than Oracle.
03:03 — [Oracle Executive Vice President Juan Loaiza] said, with the Oracle AI database, customers now, they don't just store data passively in a warehouse. Instead, he said, customers will be able to activate their data for AI and make decisions around data with stock-exchange-level robustness in every leading cloud.
04:00 — But the larger point here, too, is about, when Larry Ellison said publicly AI changes everything, that was a pretty clear indication that he was going to be leading this entire effort to go completely across the entire company, every facet of Oracle's massive portfolio is going to become AI-first.
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Apr 1, 2026 • 24min
Oracle vs. Workday AI Strategies: Key Differences Explained | Tinder on Customers
In this episode of Cloud Wars Live, Bob Evans sits down with Bonnie Tinder, Founder and CEO of Raven Intelligence, to unpack a whirlwind week in enterprise software. As AI reshapes the landscape at breakneck speed, the two explore major announcements from Oracle and Workday. Bonnie offers sharp analysis on the strategic differences between Workday’s user-centric AI assistant approach and Oracle’s autonomous, end-to-end agentic applications.
Episode 59: Enterprise AI Showdown
The Big Themes:
Oracle’s Autonomous AI Vision: Oracle is taking a more aggressive approach with its agentic AI applications, introducing 22 AI-driven tools that can execute entire business processes. Unlike assistive AI, Oracle’s agents can reason, decide, and act with minimal human intervention. This represents a shift toward AI as a “digital workforce,” capable of handling complex, cross-functional operations.
End-to-End Business Process Automation: One of Oracle’s biggest differentiators is its ability to automate complete workflows across multiple business functions. For example, designing a product while simultaneously evaluating supply chain risks and costs. This eliminates the traditional handoffs between departments and enables a holistic, real-time view of operations. By integrating data across systems and processes, Oracle’s AI can deliver more comprehensive insights and faster execution — potentially transforming how enterprises manage complex workflows.
ROI and Consumption-Based Models: AI is also changing pricing and operating models. Workday’s shift toward consumption-based pricing means customers pay based on usage rather than per-employee licensing. This can make adoption more flexible and cost-effective, but it also requires careful ROI analysis. Companies must consider not just technology costs, but also potential workforce changes, efficiency gains, and redeployment of employees. Understanding the financial impact of AI investments is critical for long-term success.
The Big Quote: “The high-risk areas you don't want to touch necessarily. You want to look at the high volume potentially first, to fully automate."
More from Bonnie Tinder:
Connect with Bonnie on LinkedIn.
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Apr 1, 2026 • 2min
SAP Signals Major Shift Toward AI Usage-Based Pricing Model
In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I review SAP’s move toward AI usage-based pricing and what it means for the future of SaaS, customer engagement, and enterprise software delivery.
Highlights
00:04 — SAP CEO Christian Klein has announced the company intends to shift away from a traditional subscription model towards a pricing model based on AI usage. Klein stated that pricing must reflect the actual usage of AI by customers now.
00:23 — Ultimately, Klein recognizes that the existing subscription model, which is a traditional SaaS model charging per user, is not the right fit for an evolving landscape where AI agents are automating an increasing number of tasks.
00:40 — To support this shift, SAP will be launching forward-deployed engineering teams that include consultants and developers who will work directly with customers to build out dedicated AI applications. It's important to note that this will not be an immediate change, but rather a direction of travel. However, it does align with the company's AI ambitions.
01:22 — Not only is SAP reportedly changing its pricing model to align with the agentic AI Era, but it's also shifting its delivery methods with the proposed forward-deployed engineering teams. This approach feels more aligned with consulting than it does traditional SaaS support.
01:44 — This transformation will impact revenue streams, customer engagement, sales, and investor relations all at once. However, this is not only a necessary shift for SAP, but one that could help the company retain its position as a global tech leader and perhaps even surpass its competitors.
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Mar 31, 2026 • 5min
SAP + Reltio: Fueling Agentic AI Via Harmonized Data
In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I review SAP's acquisition of Reltio to enhance the Business Data Cloud, expand opportunities for customers, and continue its transformation to being an AI-first, data-first company.
Highlights
00:07 — SAP made a big move to deepen its capabilities around data to power what it's doing in AI, with plans to acquire Reltio. The real goal of this is to be able to fuel SAP's ambitions for agentic AI, particularly as it moves to convert its vast portfolio of enterprise applications to agentic AI applications.
00:58 — This move extends SAP's transformation that has been in-progress for several years now. It's working to shed its enterprise apps reputation and rather be recognized as an AI-first, data-first company.
02:27 — Customers will benefit from capabilities through Reltio to get clean, high-quality data that's fully harmonized, pulling from both SAP and non-SAP systems.
03:03 — SAP has been working hard, leading up to the launch of its data cloud, to bring in more capabilities. This acquisition demonstrates the strategic importance of the SAP Business Data Cloud and enhances what the company is doing with it.
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Mar 30, 2026 • 14min
The Mid-Market ERP Opportunity Explained by Opkey CEO Pankaj Goel | Cloud Wars Live
In this episode of Cloud Wars Live, Bob Evans sits down with Pankaj Goel, CEO of Opkey, to explore how agentic AI is reshaping ERP implementations and the broader systems integrator landscape. Goel shares how Opkey’s platform automates the full lifecycle of enterprise applications — from design through testing and support — while addressing long-standing inefficiencies in implementation models. The discussion highlights the growing urgency for speed, cost efficiency, and business outcomes in the AI Era, and how digital workers are enabling organizations to rethink both delivery models and competitive positioning.
AI Transforms ERP
The Big Themes:
AI Reshapes ERP Delivery Models: The conversation underscores a major disconnect between modern cloud ERP adoption and outdated implementation methodologies. While enterprises are rapidly shifting toward cloud-based systems like Oracle, SAP, and Workday, many systems integrators still rely on legacy approaches rooted in early-2000s practices. This mismatch results in inefficiencies, cost overruns, and delayed outcomes. Opkey addresses this gap by introducing AI-driven automation that aligns delivery models with the speed and flexibility required in today’s AI Economy.
Massive Time and Cost Savings: The platform delivers measurable efficiency gains. Customers report up to 40% reductions in day-to-day operational time post-implementation, while testing cycles shrink from weeks to just a few days. For systems integrators, implementation costs have dropped by approximately 25% in early deployments. These improvements not only enhance productivity but also enable faster innovation cycles, allowing businesses to respond more quickly to market changes.
A Win-Win Ecosystem Vision: Opkey’s strategy is built around creating value for all stakeholders: ERP vendors, systems integrators, and end customers. By improving implementation success rates, reducing costs, and accelerating time to value, the platform fosters a “win-win” ecosystem. This holistic approach ensures that innovation benefits the entire enterprise software value chain, rather than optimizing for one group at the expense of others.
The Big Quote: “Copilots. . . help you understand your information better, whereas agents and agentic AI is a fundamentally different way of conceiving work. Think of an AI agent as a digital worker, just like you used to have Oracle administrators in past and your business analysts."
More from Pankaj Goel and Opkey:
Connect with Pankaj on LinkedIn or learn more about Opkey Release Advisor and CALM.
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Mar 30, 2026 • 5min
Can Google Cloud + Old-Line Baker Hughes Juice Up AI Economy?
In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I unpack the convergence of tech and energy and what it means for the future of business leadership.
Highlights
00:00 — We are seeing here in 2026 the collapsing of traditional industry boundaries. AI is helping to drive this. A whole new way of doing business is powering this. And mostly what's happening is we're seeing visionary leaders in the tech industry, energy, utilities, power, and other places realize the old story that what got us here won't get us there.
00:35 — So I wanted to talk a little bit today about a big new partnership between Google Cloud and a century-old industrial power company called Baker Hughes. And they're looking together to join forces to do things that neither could do individually, to juice up the AI Economy and address insatiable demand for power in AI data centers.
01:38 — So much growth here, and all this is forcing traditional industry boundaries to be reconsidered. These digital-native software companies are now worried about where electrons come from, and they’ve got to get upstream integrated into the power and energy industry to keep this going.
02:20 — Now you got these extremely capable companies like Baker Hughes that have never faced such an extraordinary spike in demand. This fusion or blurring of the lines between the tech industry and the energy/power industry is going to be enormously important.
03:01 — They’re looking at the possibility of fusion reactors. Fusion is one of the world’s most high-potential but difficult technologies, and if it works, energy problems are solved. The fusion of the tech industry into the energy industry will shorten that distance dramatically.
04:14 — Are you hung up on the traditions of the past? Or are you seeing a very different future where those boundaries don’t exist? Don’t be caught on the back edge of that.
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Mar 27, 2026 • 5min
Oracle Fuses Agents + Apps with Fusion Agentic Applications
In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I explore how Oracle is redefining enterprise software by fusing AI agents directly into applications.
Highlights
00:03 — Again, busy days here in the early part of 2026. I had a great video interview with Oracle Executive Vice President Steve Miranda. He's been in charge of applications development at Oracle for more than 20 years, and Steve made a few key points about these new agenetic applications.
00:56 — And his main point was, you take all the existing value that applications have had about governing processes being established, customers are comfortable with them, and then you enhance those with new agentic AI capabilities to allow those now, instead of just applications, these AI agentic applications, to do more than they had been able to do before.
01:59 — And at the same time, I think one of the big points here that Miranda said with these now is that business people are going to be able to spend less time managing their processes and more time devoting their efforts and energy and their technology to being drivers of business outcomes that they want: more growth, more innovation, better experiences for customers.
02:49 — This whole confusion, and in some ways this just crazy time we’ve been through, you know, where SaaS business applications are going to go away — I guess, you know, almost two and a half years ago, when Satya Nadella made this point — such an intelligent person.
04:07 — I think what Oracle is doing here, and especially in the words of Steve Miranda, is going to bring a lot of calm and assurance to people that it is not an either/or game: agents or business applications. Now it’s both.
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Mar 27, 2026 • 15min
Steve Miranda on Oracle’s AI Revolution and Agentic Apps | Cloud Wars Live
In this episode of Cloud Wars Live, Bob Evans speaks with Steve Miranda, Executive Vice President of Applications Development at Oracle, about the company’s latest leap into AI-driven enterprise software. Miranda outlines Oracle’s introduction of “agentic applications,” a new category that blends AI agents, automation, and business workflows into outcome-driven systems. He explains how Oracle’s strategy has evolved from embedding AI into apps to building thousands of agents — and now to delivering fully agentic apps that transform how users interact with enterprise software. The conversation highlights both the opportunity and confusion customers face in this rapidly shifting AI landscape.
Rise of Agentic AI
The Big Themes:
From Features to Outcomes: A major shift is the move from feature-based software to outcome-driven systems. Instead of executing predefined tasks, AI agents are now given business goals, such as optimizing supply chains or improving financial performance, and they generate multiple strategies to achieve them. Users then act as decision-makers, selecting preferred options. This represents a profound change in human-computer interaction, where software becomes a collaborative partner.
Explosive Growth of AI Agents: Oracle’s rapid expansion from around 50–100 agents to over 1,000 demonstrates the accelerating pace of AI adoption. This growth reflects both customer demand and the scalability of AI-driven architectures. The agents are not limited to simple automation but are capable of reasoning, analyzing enterprise-wide data, and making recommendations. This scale also lays the foundation for agentic applications.
Future of SaaS Reimagined: Miranda makes it clear that SaaS is undergoing a fundamental transformation. Traditional applications will coexist with agentic systems for now, but the long-term trajectory points toward AI-driven interfaces becoming dominant. Oracle plans to expand agentic capabilities across its entire application suite, from finance to supply chain to HR. As AI-to-AI interactions and data integration improve, these systems will become even more powerful.
The Big Quote: “These are agents where you're giving the agent a business outcome and a goal, and the agents [are] recommending to you optimizations or how you get there. And then you, as a user or human in the middle of this process, actually instruct those agents on which of the plans to execute, and it goes ahead and automates and executes those transactions. So it's a fundamentally different way of presenting the applications."
More from Steve Miranda:
Connect with Steve on LinkedIn or learn more about AI agents for Fusion Applications.
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