

Behind the Numbers: an EMARKETER Podcast
EMARKETER
EMARKETER’s podcast, Behind the Numbers, helps marketers, retailers, and advertisers understand the rapidly changing landscape of digital media. EMARKETER analysts and industry experts come together to analyze a wide variety of critical topics, from the transformative influence of AI to the dynamic world of social media, and the evolving landscape of consumer shopping habits. Stay informed and stay ahead with insights and analysis that matter. Tune in to new episodes published Monday through Friday wherever you find podcasts.
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Oct 22, 2025 • 25min
Building Brands That Stand Out In A World That Never Turns Off with Lulus and The Lead | Reimagining Retail
Sonal Gandhi, Chief Content Officer at The Lead, and Patrick Buchanan, SVP of Marketing at Lulus, dive into the evolving landscape of retail marketing. They discuss the importance of balancing data with creative instincts to create standout brands. Insightful topics include the shift toward micro-influencers and engaging communities authentically, as well as prioritizing long-term brand affinity over short-term performance metrics. Gandhi emphasizes the need for brands to adapt rapidly to trends, while Buchanan shares tips on effective storytelling in today's dynamic market.

Oct 20, 2025 • 36min
The Other Side of Loyalty That Most Brands Miss with Fetch and Nestlé | Behind the Numbers
On today’s podcast episode, we discuss what it means to have an authentic relationship with your customer, the benefits of collaborating on loyalty, and how to make folks feel like they are getting the most out of their rewards app. Join our conversation with analyst and guest host, Arielle Feger, GM of CPG Partnerships at Fetch, Carmen Gonzalez-Meister, and Director of Category and Ecommerce Strategy at Nestlé, Nicole Lesinski. Listen everywhere you find podcasts and watch on YouTube and Spotify.
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For a transcript of this episode, click here: https://www.emarketer.com/content/podcast-other-side-of-loyalty-that-most-brands-miss-with-fetch-rewards-nestle
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Consumers skip ads but not rewards. Fetch drives performance with 12.5M+ monthly users and 11.5M+ receipts scanned daily, capturing 88% of household spend. Your brand becomes the reward earning real engagement, verified purchases, and lasting loyalty. Fetch: America’s Rewards App. Where brands are the center of joy. Learn more at business.fetch.com.

Oct 17, 2025 • 25min
Digital Lessons 2025 — The Triopoly’s Power, the Sleeping YouTube Giant, AI Search Behavior, and More | Behind the Numbers
Join Eleni Digalaki, VP of Global Content Operations, and Yory Wurmser, Principal Analyst, as they unpack the digital landscape of 2025. Discover why the ad triopoly's hold is slipping despite rising dollar share, and learn about the under-monetization of YouTube despite its vast attention. The duo discusses the barriers limiting e-commerce growth in sectors like food and auto, and how AI might reshape shopping behaviors. With insights on emerging competition from platforms like TikTok, this conversation dives deep into the future of digital advertising.

Oct 15, 2025 • 29min
‘Instant Checkout’: How ChatGPT Could Redefine Online Shopping Before Amazon and Google Strike Back | Reimagining Retail
On today’s podcast episode, we discuss how much of a splash ChatGPT’s new ‘Instant Checkout’ is likely to make, what kinds of things people are most likely to use it to buy, and if Amazon and Google can offer compelling alternatives. Join Senior Director of Podcasts and guest host, Marcus Johnson, and Senior Analysts, Carina Lamb (formerly Perkins) and Zak Stambor.
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For a transcript of this episode click here:
https://www.emarketer.com/content/podcast-instant-checkout-how-chatgpt-could-redefine-online-shopping-reimagining-retail
© 2025 EMARKETER
Consumers skip ads but not rewards. Fetch drives performance with 12.5M+ monthly users and 11.5M+ receipts scanned daily, capturing 88% of household spend. Your brand becomes the reward earning real engagement, verified purchases, and lasting loyalty. Fetch: America’s Rewards App. Where brands are the center of joy. Learn more at business.fetch.com.

Oct 14, 2025 • 22min
The New American Dream: How Brands Are Aligning with Young People’s Aspirations | The Banking & Payments Show
In today’s episode, we talk about whether the “American Dream” is less achievable, or just different, how this new economic reality has reshaped consumer behavior, and how brands are marketing aspiration differently. Join the discussion with host and Head of Business Development, Rob Rubin, Senior Director of Briefings, Jeremy Goldman, and Analyst, Paola Flores-Marquez.
To learn more about our research and get access to PRO+ go to EMARKETER.com
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For a transcript of this episode click here:
https://www.emarketer.com/content/podcast-banking-payments-show-new-american-dream-how-brands-aligning-with-young-people-aspirations
© 2025 EMARKETER
Consumers skip ads but not rewards. Fetch drives performance with 12.5M+ monthly users and 11.5M+ receipts scanned daily, capturing 88% of household spend. Your brand becomes the reward earning real engagement, verified purchases, and lasting loyalty. Fetch: America’s Rewards App. Where brands are the center of joy. Learn more at business.fetch.com.

Oct 13, 2025 • 21min
How Much Traditional Media Still Matters: Last Stand—or a New Beginning? | Behind the Numbers
On today’s podcast episode, we discuss how linear TV ad dollars are still managing to outweigh CTV ad dollars, what’s primarily responsible for driving growth in out-of-home ad spending this year, and if some new high-profile print media initiatives can stem the print ad spend bleeding. Join Senior Director of Podcasts and host, Marcus Johnson, Senior Analyst, Ross Benes, and Senior Forecasting Analyst, Zach Goldner. Listen everywhere and watch on YouTube and Spotify.
To learn more about our research and get access to PRO+, go to EMARKETER.com
Follow us on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/emarketer/
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For a transcript of this episode, click here: https://www.emarketer.com/content/podcast-how-much-traditional-media-still-matters-last-stand-or-new-beginning-behind-numbers
© 2025 EMARKETER
Consumers skip ads but not rewards. Fetch drives performance with 12.5M+ monthly users and 11.5M+ receipts scanned daily, capturing 88% of household spend. Your brand becomes the reward earning real engagement, verified purchases, and lasting loyalty. Fetch: America’s Rewards App. Where brands are the center of joy. Learn more at business.fetch.com.

Oct 10, 2025 • 22min
Gen Z’s Social Media Shuffle: Why 83% Are Turning the Volume Down — and Where They’re Going Next | Behind the Numbers
On today’s podcast episode, we discuss how Gen Zers are trying to limit their social media use, which platforms they are moving to (and away from), and where they are engaging with social creators offline. Join Senior Director of Podcasts and host, Marcus Johnson, Analyst, Paola Florez-Marquez, and Senior Analyst, Minda Smiley. Listen everywhere and watch on YouTube and Spotify.
Report mentioned in this episode: https://content-na1.emarketer.com/gen-z-social-media-usage-2025
To learn more about our research and get access to PRO+, go to EMARKETER.com
Follow us on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/emarketer/
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For a transcript of this episode, click here: https://www.emarketer.com/content/podcast-gen-z-s-social-media-shuffle-why-83-turning-volume-down-where-they-re-going-behind-numbers
© 2025 EMARKETER
Consumers skip ads but not rewards. Fetch drives performance with 12.5M+ monthly users and 11.5M+ receipts scanned daily, capturing 88% of household spend. Your brand becomes the reward earning real engagement, verified purchases, and lasting loyalty. Fetch: America’s Rewards App. Where brands are the center of joy. Learn more at business.fetch.com.

Oct 8, 2025 • 24min
How Primark US is Going From Hidden Gem to Household Name with CMO Rene Federico | Reimagining Retail
In this podcast episode, we discuss how Primark’s US and UK customers see the brand differently, what’s kept the retailer relevant as price pressures have intensified competition, and why its famously store-first strategy is working so well. Listen to the discussion with Vice President of Content and guest host, Suzy Davidkhanian, Senior Analyst, Carina Perkins, and Head of US Marketing for Primark, Rene Federico.
To learn more about our research and get access to PRO+ go to EMARKETER.com
Follow us on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/emarketer/
For sponsorship opportunities contact us: advertising@emarketer.com
For more information visit: https://www.emarketer.com/advertise/
Have questions or just want to say hi? Drop us a line at podcast@emarketer.com
For a transcript of this episode click here:
https://www.emarketer.com/content/podcast-reimagining-retail-how-primark-us-going-hidden-gem-household-name-with-cmo-rene-federico
© 2025 EMARKETER
Consumers skip ads but not rewards. Fetch drives performance with 12.5M+ monthly users and 11.5M+ receipts scanned daily, capturing 88% of household spend. Your brand becomes the reward earning real engagement, verified purchases, and lasting loyalty. Fetch: America’s Rewards App. Where brands are the center of joy. Learn more at business.fetch.com.

Oct 6, 2025 • 21min
The AI Ad Dilemma: Consumer Trust, Controversial Ads, and the Future of Media Buying | Behind the Numbers
On today’s podcast episode, we discuss the moving target that is consumers’ perception of using AI in advertising, how marketers feel about the technology, and the share of ad buying that is likely to be delegated to AI. Join Senior Director of Podcasts and host, Marcus Johnson, Analyst, Marisa Jones, and Senior Analyst, Gadjo Sevilla. Listen everywhere and watch on YouTube and Spotify.
To learn more about our research and get access to PRO+, go to EMARKETER.com
Follow us on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/emarketer/
For sponsorship opportunities, contact us: advertising@emarketer.com
For more information, visit: https://www.emarketer.com/advertise/
Have questions or just want to say hi? Drop us a line at podcast@emarketer.com
For a transcript of this episode, click here: https://www.emarketer.com/content/podcast-ai-ad-dilemma-consumer-trust-controversial-ads-future-of-media-buying-behind-numbers
© 2025 EMARKETER
Consumers skip ads but not rewards. Fetch drives performance with 12.5M+ monthly users and 11.5M+ receipts scanned daily, capturing 88% of household spend. Your brand becomes the reward earning real engagement, verified purchases, and lasting loyalty. Fetch: America’s Rewards App. Where brands are the center of joy. Learn more at business.fetch.com.

Oct 3, 2025 • 20min
How Marketers Use AI at Work: Skills, Stigma, and the Future of Advertising Jobs | Behind the Numbers
The discussion delves into how AI is reshaping job roles in advertising, with concerns over layoffs and the loss of entry-level positions. Marketing strategies today heavily utilize generative AI for data analysis and content creation, yet the stigma of using AI at work raises fears of judgment among employees. There's a crucial need for training in AI skills, alongside ethical considerations for its use. The conversation also touches on the balance between traditional SEO practices and the emerging necessity of generative engine optimization.


