

Dental Leaders Podcast
Prav Solanki & Payman Langroudi
The Dental Leaders podcast takes you on a behind the scenes journey with emerging leaders in dentistry. Success leaves clues, and these conversations uncover the depth, detail, and backstory behind our guests.
The show is hosted by dental entrepreneurs Payman Langroudi & Prav Solanki. Let the conversation flow.
Find out more at https://www.dentalleaders.co.uk/
The show is hosted by dental entrepreneurs Payman Langroudi & Prav Solanki. Let the conversation flow.
Find out more at https://www.dentalleaders.co.uk/
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Jun 12, 2024 • 2h 11min
#243 High Achiever — Rory Boyd
Rory Boyd shares his journey to being a specialist prosthodontist and owner of Dublin’s Belfield Clinic.
Rory discusses the value of work-life balance, adopting new tech, and growing and managing his referral-based practice.
Rory also discusses his involvement with the Irish Dental Association and his efforts to advocate for the profession.
Enjoy!
In This Episode
00:02:50 - Backstory
00:11:30 - Choosing dentistry
00:17:00 - SPOcast Show Notesutside interests
00:21:20 - Postgraduate training
00:43:50 - Specialists Vs general practitioners
00:46:50 - Simplicity and education
00:50:35 - New technologies
00:57:15 - Irish Dental Association
01:04:45 - Blackbox thinking
01:11:40 - Advances in dentistry
01:27:55 - From research to adoption
01:31:30 - Belfield Clinic
01:43:10 - Fee setting
01:48:50 - Aha! moments
01:54:35 - The IDA and lobbying
01:58:25 - Fantasy dinner party
02:00:05 - Last days and legacy
About Rory Boyd
Rory Boyd is a specialist prosthodontist and owner of the Belfield Clinic specialist practice in Dublin, ROI. In 2019 Dr Boyd became the President of the Irish Dental Association Metropolitan branch and currently sits on the Irish Dental Association committee.

Jun 7, 2024 • 1h 15min
Mind Movers #27 — Sana Shirvani
Rhona chats with celebrity personal trainer Sana Shirvani about her journey in the fitness industry. Sana shares her experience working long hours and taking on clients' stress, as well as the pressure she faced from her conservative father to pursue a traditional career.
Sana candidly shares the mental health challenges she faced after her cousin's suicide and her own battles with depression and addiction.
In This Episode
00:00:05 - Stress and negative energy
00:06:55 - Becoming a personal trainer
00:32:35 - Women’s fitness
00:38:40 - Eating and body image
00:50:25 - Ozempic
00:53:05 - Mental health challenges
01:02:00 - Gender, dating and relationship dynamics
01:07:10 - Sexual harassment
01:13:15 - Scaling and growth
About Sana Shirvani
Sana Shirvani is a London-based personal trainer with a background in strength and conditioning who supports busy people to take control of their health, fitness and wellness.

Jun 5, 2024 • 1h 13min
#242 Digital TCO — Kevin Shannon
Kevin Shannon discusses leaving dentistry to focus on his dental software startup, DigitalTCO.
Kevin shares how his frustration with the inefficiencies of dental note-taking and a difficult patient complaint inspired him to create DigitalTCO, which uses AI to automatically generate clinical notes and consent forms from audio recordings of patient consultations.
He taught himself to code to build the software, which is now used by over 350 dental practices.
Enjoy!
In This Episode
00:01:10 - Backstory
00:16:10 - Discovering dentistry
00:20:35 - Dental school
00:22:25 - Early jobs
00:27:30 - Frustrations
00:38:00 - Digital TCO
00:56:35 - Digital TCO vision
01:00:50 - Technical aspects
01:05:20 - Scaling and growth
01:09:25 - Last days and legacy
About Kevin Shannon
Kevin Shannon is the founder of DigitalTCO, the dental notetaking software used by hundreds of UK practices.

May 31, 2024 • 1h 17min
Mind Movers #26 — Emma Louise Boynton
Founder and host of the award-winning Sex Talks Emma Louise Boynton joins Payman and Rhona for a frank exploration of sex education and communication.
The conversation touches on cultural taboos around sex, gender relations and inequalities, to provide an open and nuanced exploration of the complex intersections between sex, intimacy, shame, relationships and well-being.
Enjoy!
In This Episode
00:04:00 - Journalism and career
00:14:50 - Sex therapy and education
00:30:35 - Cultural taboos and shame
00:39:00 - Dating
00:41:55 - Grieving and adolescence
00:44:05 - Gender and equality
00:52:55 - Faking it
00:54:40 - Changing attitudes
00:56:35 - Sex addiction, body image and social media
01:03:55 - Dating apps and true love
01:06:00 - Mental health
01:08:20 - Male sexuality and shame
01:12:20 - Future vision
About Emma Louise Boynton
Emma Louise Boynton is a broadcaster, writer, and founder and host of the award-winning Sex Talks series, which aims to break down the barriers surrounding open and honest discussions of sex.

May 30, 2024 • 1h 40min
#241 Ortho Empire — Siamack Bagheri
Prav and Payman chat with Siamack Bagheri, a highly successful orthodontist who owns ten large orthodontic practices with his wife. Siamack shares his story of coming to the UK from Iran in the 1970s and pursuing dentistry. He discusses the challenges he faced during dental school and how those experiences shaped him.
The conversation touches on recruitment challenges, the shift toward temp agencies, the business advantages of new tech in aligner therapy, and more.
Enjoy!
In This Episode
00:02:15 - Backstory
00:04:35 - Choosing dentistry
00:07:40 - Dental School
00:14:50 - The next generation
00:18:00 - Case selection
00:21:35 - Practice management
00:31:35 - Ortho technology
00:35:50 - Referring cases
00:40:40 - Clinical work
00:44:45 - Recruitment
00:48:10 - Remote monitoring and aligner therapy
00:51:45 - Blackbox thinking
01:00:15 - Early interceptive orthodontics
01:02:25 - Fears
01:06:05 - Looking back
01:08:10 - Fantasy dinner party
01:10:15 - Last days and legacy
About Siamack Bagheri
Siamack Bagheri graduated from Bristol University in 1987. He then gained orthodontic qualifications from the Royal Colleges of England and Edinburgh and an MSc from the University of London. He is the principal of a group of 10 orthodontic clinics in London, Cheltenham, and Shropshire.

May 24, 2024 • 1h 24min
Mind Movers #25 — Daniel Daggers
Rhona and Payman chat with Daniel Daggers, a successful luxury real estate agent, founder of Drew Global, and star of Netflix’s Buying London.
Daniel shares his rise from humble beginnings in local authority housing to becoming a top agent, dealing with challenges like bullying and trolling along the way.
He discusses his people-centric approach to business, the importance of personal branding, and his philosophy of enabling others to achieve their potential.
Enjoy!
In This Episode
00:03:05 - Backstory
00:12:20 - Trauma and challenges
00:17:55 - Staring in property
00:33:35 - Personal brands
00:37:20 - High-end properties
00:41:05 - Building and running a business
00:53:45 - Dubai real estate
00:59:50 - Family, love, support and opportunities
01:06:05 - Netflix
01:10:35 - Low point
01:14:20 - People Vs property person
01:16:15 - Recognising potential
01:17:00 - Being recognised in public
01:22:20 - Lessons from high-net worth individuals
01:22:45 - Advice to younger self
About Daniel Daggers
Daniel Daggers is a luxury real estate expert and the star of Netflix's Buying London. With over two decades of experience, he has established himself as a leader in the prime and super prime property markets worldwide. His track record includes advising on the sale of more than $5 billion worth of high-end residential properties.

May 22, 2024 • 35min
#240 Prav’s Solo Show — The Customer Journey
How do dental practices stand out from the competition in a fiercely competitive marketplace that’s becoming more crowded by the day?
Join Prav for an in-depth discussion of defining and leveraging your clinic’s unique selling points to design unique, memorable customer journeys and stand out from the competition.
Enjoy!
In This Episode
00:01:30 - TCO training—evolution and adaptation
00:09:00 - Creating unique patient journeys
00:17:25 - USP examples
00:20:30 - Leveraging USPs
00:26:15 - Consultation to closure
00:32:50 - Journey mapping and refinement
About Prav Solanki
Prav Solanki is a marketing scientist and dental growth specialist who has supported countless dental professionals and organisations to achieve stellar growth.
He is a co-owner and director of IAS Academy and founder of The Fresh, the UK’s leading dental growth and marketing agency.
His latest project, Leadflo, is described as the world’s most advanced CRM for dental clinics.

May 15, 2024 • 58min
#239 From the Archives — Pontoon Pyromania with Danny Watson
We reach way back into the archives this week with a look back at one of Payman and Prav’s favourite conversations with Green Beret-turned-dentist, Danny Watson.
Danny looks back on his first meeting with Prav, recalls how seeing military dentists at work inspired him to join the profession, and discusses burning his military bridges in hot pursuit of his newfound passion.
Enjoy!
In This Episode
0.34 - Early years
07.27 - Army days
14.59 - Discovering dentistry
21.25 - Getting started and burning bridges
26.01 - The military mindset
36.19 - Highs and lows
44.47 - Lambos & love at first sight
48.28 - On PT
53.47 - New challenges
57.08 - Last day on earth
About Danny Watson
Danny Watson graduated from Manchester University in 2018 and went on to practise at Manchester’s Kiss Dental.
Before becoming a dentist, Danny enjoyed a long and distinguished military career including service with the Green Berets and active service in Iraq and Afghanistan.
He is passionate about cross fit and personal training, and is the current world-record holder for the greatest distance travelled on the Concept-2 indoor rower in one minute.

May 10, 2024 • 1h 3min
Mind Movers #24 — Annika Patel
Specialist orthodontist Annika Patel shares her journey of being a career-focused woman in dentistry, discussing sacrifices, family, and mental resilience. Topics include ortho training challenges, marriage, motherhood, and the importance of support and camaraderie within the profession.

May 8, 2024 • 2h 14min
#238 The Professor — Avijit Banerjee
Payman chats with the world-renowned professor Avijit Banerjee, who shares his journey in academia, discussing his research focused on applying scientific findings to patient care.
As you’d expect from a polymathic mind like Prof. Banerjee's, the conversation ranges far and wide, covering challenges in dental education, the role of new technologies in diagnosis and the public's perception of fluoride.
Prof. Banerjee also wisdom on clinical judgement, patient communication, the value of documenting cases, and much more.
Enjoy!
In This Episode
00:03:45 - Academia, research and curiosity
00:10:00 - Research, commercialisation and sharing
00:18:15 - Recent studies
00:28:11 - Oral health messaging
00:31:25 - Shift towards whole patient care and holistic dentistry in education
00:33:30 - Training: past, present, UK and abroad
00:42:20 - Advice for young dentists
00:43:20 - NHS funding
00:48:10 - International teaching and research
00:55:40 - Minimally invasive dentistry
01:16:40 - New technologies
01:20:10 - Danger of undertreatment
01:23:20 - Experimentation and evidence
01:26:05 - Bureaucracy and red tape
01:28:05 - Misunderstanding and misinformation
01:34:00 - Fluoride and fissure sealants
01:44:10 - Black box thinking
01:50:25 - Teaching style
01:51:25 - Fantasy dinner party
01:58:40 - Last days and legacy
About Professor Avijit Banerjee
Professor Avijit Banerjee, a global authority in minimally invasive dentistry, leads the Cariology & Operative Dentistry research program at King's College London Faculty of Dentistry, Oral & Craniofacial Sciences.
He serves as Head of Conservative & MI Dentistry, Director of Education (UG), and Programme Director for the KCL distance-learning Masters in Advanced Minimum Intervention Dentistry.
Banerjee's research focuses on MI operative caries management and adhesive dental biomaterials, resulting in over 120 publications and £2.5 million in research funding. He collaborates with international Industry partners as an R&D KOL and is the primary author of the widely respected text, Pickard's Guide to Minimally Invasive Operative Dentistry.
Banerjee holds editorial positions in several prominent dental journals and maintains a specialist clinical practice in Restorative Dentistry, Prosthodontics & Periodontics. He currently serves as the President of the BDA Metropolitan Branch Section.


