Our Hen House: Vegan & Animal Rights Movement | Stories from the Frontlines of Animal Liberation

Jasmin Singer and Mariann Sullivan
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May 4, 2024 • 1h 16min

An Unnatural Order with Jim Mason

How did humans’ relationship with the other animals go so completely awry? The incomparable Jim Mason – author, lawyer, thinker, and animal rights OG – joins us to discuss his seminal work, An Unnatural Order: The Roots of Our Destruction of Nature, for a discussion about where humanity went wrong, why it matters now more than ever, and how we can start to put it right.   ABOUT OUR GUEST Jim Mason is an author and attorney focusing on human/animal concerns. He is the author of An Unnatural Order: The Roots of Our Destruction of Nature and co-author with Peter Singer of Animal Factories and The Ethics of What We Eat: Why Our Food Choices Matter.  He is a contributor to A Cultural History of Animals and The Oxford Handbook of Animal Studies, and his writings have appeared in Audubon, The New York Times, New Scientist, and numerous other publications. RESOURCES Avian flu outbreak raises a disturbing question: Is our food system built on poop? THE TRUTH ABOUT ORGANIC MILK: Cows are suffering on even the most “humane” dairy farms. Jim Mason’s website Jim Mason on X (formerly Twitter) INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPT We are thrilled to expand the accessibility of our podcast by offering written transcripts of the interviews! Click here to read this episode's interview. _____________________________________________ Thank you for listening to the Our Hen House podcast! If you enjoy our podcasts, believe in our mission to effectively mainstream the movement to end the exploitation of animals, find community and solace in our shows and resources, and would like to show your support for vegan indie media, please make a donation today. Subscribe to our show on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcatcher, and don’t forget to leave a 5-star review! Check out Our Hen House’s other podcasts: The Animal Law Podcast, The Teaching Jasmin How to Cook Vegan Podcast, and the Antiracism in Animal Advocacy Audio Series. Follow us on social media! You can find Our Hen House on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, or X (formerly Twitter). The Our Hen House theme song is written and performed by Michael Harren. __________________________ This episode is brought to you in part through the generosity of A Well-Fed World. A Well-Fed World provides the means for change by empowering individuals, social justice organizations, and political decision-makers to embrace the benefits of plant-based foods and farming. Learn more at awfw.org.
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Apr 27, 2024 • 1h 15min

Rescuing Animals from Climate Change with Kathy Stevens

Rescued animals at some sanctuaries are now facing a new hurdle before they can be truly safe: climate change. We are joined this week by Kathy Stevens of Catskill Animal Sanctuary to discuss this new challenge. ABOUT OUR GUEST Kathy Stevens is the co-founder and executive director of Catskill Animal Sanctuary. Since then, Catskill has saved more than 5,000 non-human individuals through direct rescue — and exponentially more through programming that encourages humans to adopt veganism. Kathy is also the author of Where the Blind Horse Sings and a contributor to books, podcasts, and articles on animal sentience, animal rights, and veganism. Catskill Animal Sanctuary Website Catskill Animal Sanctuary on Facebook Catskill Animal Sanctuary on TikTok Catskill Animal Sanctuary on Instagram Catskill Animal Sanctuary on X (formerly Twitter) Catskill Animal Sanctuary on YouTube RESOURCES Exes & Ohs Substack The New York Declaration on Animal Consciousness Environmental Connections on WXXI Sanctuaries Can Protect Animals From Abuse, but Not From Climate Change Our Hen House Episode 272 w/ Bob Comis Environmental Connections: Whether or not to have kids amid the climate crisis Our Hen House Episode 708 w/ Sweet Farm Sanctuary Our Hen House Episode 683 w/ Odd Man Inn Sanctuary Scarlet Spark’s Leadership Skill Sparks Scarlet Spark’s FREE Leadership Skills Workshops Scarlet Spark’s Leadership Tools Scarlet Spark website INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPT We are thrilled to expand the accessibility of our podcast by offering written transcripts of the interviews! Click here to read this episode's interview. _____________________________________________ Thank you for listening to the Our Hen House podcast! If you enjoy our podcasts, believe in our mission to effectively mainstream the movement to end the exploitation of animals, find community and solace in our shows and resources, and would like to show your support for vegan indie media, please make a donation today. Subscribe to our show on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcatcher, and don’t forget to leave a 5-star review! Check out Our Hen House’s other podcasts: The Animal Law Podcast, The Teaching Jasmin How to Cook Vegan Podcast, and the Antiracism in Animal Advocacy Audio Series. Follow us on social media! You can find Our Hen House on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, or X (formerly Twitter). The Our Hen House theme song is written and performed by Michael Harren. __________________________ This episode is brought to you in part through the generosity of A Well-Fed World. A Well-Fed World provides the means for change by empowering individuals, social justice organizations, and political decision-makers to embrace the benefits of plant-based foods and farming. Learn more at awfw.org.
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Apr 20, 2024 • 1h 13min

The Human-Animal Bond with Dr Pia Salk

Humans’ relationships with the other creatures on this planet range from deep love to dreadful cruelty and everything in between. What are the roots of this confused and contradictory reality? This week, we are joined by Dr Pia Salk to discuss the mysteries of human psychology as it relates to animals. ABOUT OUR GUEST Pia Salk is a clinical psychologist and expert on the human-animal bond. In her clinical work and her writing, Dr. Salk addresses topics ranging from the loss of a companion animal to the unique stresses of animal welfare work and the climate of animal welfare as it relates to social justice on a larger scale. Dr. Salk’s media appearances cover topics such as how adopting an animal not only saves lives, but is also good parenting that promotes prosocial behavior in today’s youth. She lives and practices in Sleepy Hollow, NY. RESOURCES Damien Mander on Instagram Help Stop the World’s First Octopus Farm In Move to Protect Whales, Polynesian Indigenous Groups Give Them ‘Personhood’ Dr Pia Salk’s website Scarlet Spark’s Leadership Skill Sparks Scarlet Spark’s FREE Leadership Skills Workshops Scarlet Spark’s Leadership Tools Scarlet Spark website INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPT We are thrilled to expand the accessibility of our podcast by offering written transcripts of the interviews! Click here to read this episode's interview. _____________________________________________ Thank you for listening to the Our Hen House podcast! If you enjoy our podcasts, believe in our mission to effectively mainstream the movement to end the exploitation of animals, find community and solace in our shows and resources, and would like to show your support for vegan indie media, please make a donation today. Subscribe to our show on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcatcher, and don’t forget to leave a 5-star review! Check out Our Hen House’s other podcasts: The Animal Law Podcast, The Teaching Jasmin How to Cook Vegan Podcast, and the Antiracism in Animal Advocacy Audio Series. Follow us on social media! You can find Our Hen House on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, or X (formerly Twitter). The Our Hen House theme song is written and performed by Michael Harren. __________________________ This episode is brought to you in part through the generosity of A Well-Fed World. A Well-Fed World provides the means for change by empowering individuals, social justice organizations, and political decision-makers to embrace the benefits of plant-based foods and farming. Learn more at awfw.org.
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Apr 13, 2024 • 1h 17min

How Theater Can Change the World for Animals with Grace Howarth and Anastasia Bunce

What does a night out at the theater (or theatre, in this case) have to do with activism? A whole lot if it’s up to Anastasia Bunce & Grace Howarth, who join us this week to discuss Patch Plays, the vegan troupe that is producing theater that pays attention to the lives, and deaths, of animals.  ABOUT OUR GUESTS Grace Joy Howarth is a playwright, author, and composer from London. She is one of Patch Plays’ Associate Writers and has been vegan since birth. Theatrical writing credits include ‘Blood on Your Hands’ (Southwark Playhouse, The Cockpit Theatre, BBC Writers Room Longlist, Masterclass Pitch Your Play Longlist), ‘Birdie’s Adventures in the Animal Kingdom’ (The Greenhouse Theatre, Harrow Arts Centre, Polka Theatre R&D) and ‘She is Taken Lightly’ (Hope Mill Theatre). Her work has been produced in scratch nights across the UK, and she self-produced a radio play, ‘Until We Can’t See the Sky,’ on Resonance FM and Chapel FM. Grace has been shortlisted for the New York New Plays for Young Audiences showcase and longlisted for the British Youth Music Theatre Award. She has over a dozen short stories published in publications such as the H.G. Wells Short Story Award Collection, The National Archives Writing War, Writing Peace anthology, and Miniskirt Magazine. She holds a First Class degree in Songwriting and works as a freelance sustainability writer and editor. Anastasia Bunce is a theatre and film director based in London who specializes in directing new writing with a political heart. She is the Artistic Director of Patch Plays, a company devoted to staging work that explores animal ethics and the environment. Stylistically, she is interested in utilizing expressionistic devices that enable the poetry of a piece to become its focal point, as this, for her, is where stories start to shape into art. Anastasia trained in MA Theatre Directing at Mountview Academy of Theatre Arts in 2020. Recently she directed the critically acclaimed Offest finalist one-woman show ‘Meat Cute‘ by Bibi Lucille (Edinburgh Fringe Festival, Gilded Balloon 2023), ‘Darkie Armo Girl’ by Karine Bedrossian (Finborough Theatre 2022), ‘Birdie’s Adventures in the Animal Kingdom‘ by Grace Joy Howarth (Harrow Arts Centre 2022/Greenhouse Theatre 2023), ‘Blood On Your Hands‘ by Grace Joy Howarth (Southwark Playhouse 2024, Cockpit Theatre 2022). Short films include ‘Meat Cute‘ by Bibi Lucille, ‘Push‘ by Julia Melinek, ‘Swipe Left‘ by Bella Glanville and ‘Yoghurt is Not Sexy‘ by Jessica Friend. RESOURCES Why a leading bird flu expert isn’t convinced that the risk H5N1 poses to people has declined A Cruel Way to Control Bird Flu? Poultry Giants Cull and Cash In. “Assisted Suicide,” “Euthanasia,” and “Depopulation” — What’s in a name? Exes and Ohs Substack Patch Plays website Patch Plays on Instagram Patch Plays on X (formerly Twitter) Patch Plays on Facebook patchplays2020@gmail.com Grace Howarth on Instagram Anastasia Bunce on Instagram Scarlet Spark’s Leadership Skill Sparks Scarlet Spark’s FREE Leadership Skills Workshops Scarlet Spark’s Leadership Tools Scarlet Spark website INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPT We are thrilled to expand the accessibility of our podcast by offering written transcripts of the interviews! Click here to read this episode's interview. _____________________________________________ Thank you for listening to the Our Hen House podcast! If you enjoy our podcasts, believe in our mission to effectively mainstream the movement to end the exploitation of animals, find community and solace in our shows and resources, and would like to show your support for vegan indie media, please make a donation today. Subscribe to our show on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcatcher, and don’t forget to leave a 5-star review! Check out Our Hen House’s other podcasts: The Animal Law Podcast, The Teaching Jasmin How to Cook Vegan Podcast, and the Antiracism in Animal Advocacy Audio Series. Follow us on social media! You can find Our Hen House on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, or X (formerly Twitter). The Our Hen House theme song is written and performed by Michael Harren. __________________________ This episode is brought to you in part through the generosity of A Well-Fed World. A Well-Fed World provides the means for change by empowering individuals, social justice organizations, and political decision-makers to embrace the benefits of plant-based foods and farming. Learn more at awfw.org.
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Apr 6, 2024 • 1h 48min

When Animals Dream with David Peña-Guzmán

Everyone who lives with an animal would think it rather obvious that they dream, but believe it or not, this is not an accepted fact in the scientific community. This week, we speak with David Peña-Guzmán about his book When Animals Dream: The Hidden World of Animal Consciousness. ABOUT OUR GUEST David M. Peña-Guzmán is an associate professor of humanities at SF State and co-host of the podcast Overthink. He specializes in animal studies, the history and philosophy of science, theories of consciousness, and 20th century French philosophy. He is the author of When Animals Dream: The Hidden World of Animal Consciousness, and co-author of Chimpanzee Rights: The Philosophers’ Brief. Overthink Podcast website David Peña-Guzmán on X (formerly Twitter) When Animals Dream: The Hidden World of Animal Consciousness book RESOURCES Eating for the climate: exploring sustainability and food choices Scarlet Spark’s Leadership Skill Sparks Scarlet Spark’s FREE Leadership Skills Workshops Scarlet Spark’s Leadership Tools Scarlet Spark website INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPT We are thrilled to expand the accessibility of our podcast by offering written transcripts of the interviews! Click here to read this episode's interview. _____________________________________________ Thank you for listening to the Our Hen House podcast! If you enjoy our podcasts, believe in our mission to effectively mainstream the movement to end the exploitation of animals, find community and solace in our shows and resources, and would like to show your support for vegan indie media, please make a donation today. Subscribe to our show on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcatcher, and don’t forget to leave a 5-star review! Check out Our Hen House’s other podcasts: The Animal Law Podcast, The Teaching Jasmin How to Cook Vegan Podcast, and the Antiracism in Animal Advocacy Audio Series. Follow us on social media! You can find Our Hen House on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, or X (formerly Twitter). The Our Hen House theme song is written and performed by Michael Harren. __________________________ This episode is brought to you in part through the generosity of A Well-Fed World. A Well-Fed World provides the means for change by empowering individuals, social justice organizations, and political decision-makers to embrace the benefits of plant-based foods and farming. Learn more at awfw.org.
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Mar 30, 2024 • 1h 16min

Horseracing Wrongs with Patrick Battuello

Horseracing’s popularity has declined over the years, so how is this industry still alive? This week we are joined by Patrick Battuello of Horseracing Wrongs, who sheds light on the brutality and corruption that is the horseracing industry. ABOUT OUR GUEST Patrick Battuello has been writing on animal rights issues since 2009, when he launched the Animal Rights blog for the Albany Times Union, one of the first of its kind in the nation. His work from this period appeared in a high-school textbook, “The Case for Animal Rights.” Patrick launched Horseracing Wrongs in 2013, and incorporated as a non-profit in 2017. Patrick has had racing op-eds published in The Washington Post, The Baltimore Sun, MSNBC, and Katie Couric Media, among many others. He has appeared on CNN and ESPN multiple times, and in 2019, was featured on a groundbreaking segment of HBO’s “Real Sports.” Patrick has also testified before the New York State Senate. RESOURCES Should Wildlife Advocates Help Set Hunting Rules In Vermont? Exes and Ohs Substack Scarlet Spark workshops Horseracing Wrongs website Horseracing Wrongs on Facebook Horseracing Wrongs on X (formerly Twitter) Horseracing Wrongs on Youtube Horseracing Wrongs on Instagram INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPT We are thrilled to expand the accessibility of our podcast by offering written transcripts of the interviews! Click here to read this episode's interview. _____________________________________________ Thank you for listening to the Our Hen House podcast! If you enjoy our podcasts, believe in our mission to effectively mainstream the movement to end the exploitation of animals, find community and solace in our shows and resources, and would like to show your support for vegan indie media, please make a donation today. Subscribe to our show on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcatcher, and don’t forget to leave a 5-star review! Check out Our Hen House’s other podcasts: The Animal Law Podcast, The Teaching Jasmin How to Cook Vegan Podcast, and the Antiracism in Animal Advocacy Audio Series. Follow us on social media! You can find Our Hen House on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, or X (formerly Twitter). The Our Hen House theme song is written and performed by Michael Harren. __________________________ This episode is brought to you in part through the generosity of A Well-Fed World. A Well-Fed World provides the means for change by empowering individuals, social justice organizations, and political decision-makers to embrace the benefits of plant-based foods and farming. Learn more at awfw.org.
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Mar 23, 2024 • 1h 5min

Animal Justice Academy with Kimberly Carroll

Have you ever thought, “Animals are suffering, I have to DO something!!! But what?” Kimberly Carroll of Animal Justice Academy joins us to discuss the amazing, free, online program designed to help people who care about animals turn themselves into people who are doing something about it. ABOUT OUR GUEST Kimberly Carroll is a coach for changemakers, campaigns strategist with Animal Justice, director of Animal Justice Academy, and a director with the Toronto Vegetarian Food Bank.  With over 13 years as a coach and 18 years as an activist, Kimberly works with mission-driven leaders, social entrepreneurs, and activists on the inner shifts, high-performance habits, and strategies to make them unstoppable. She’s helped empower thousands of activists and counseled those in high-stress positions like undercover investigators. Kimberly Carroll – Coach for Changemakers Kimberly Carroll on Facebook Kimberly Carroll on Instagram Kimberly Carroll on Youtube RESOURCES Ridglan Farms beagle ‘rescue’ case dismissed Why the Ridglan Prosecution Fell Apart The vivisection industry faced a greater threat than our rescue: a growing movement for animal rights. Sign-up for Animal Justice Academy (FREE) Animal Justice website Toronto Vegetarian Food Bank SIGN-UP (free) FOR THE CHANGEMAKER SESSIONS- every second Wednesday at 7pm ET Kimberly’s FREE VIDEO MINI-COURSE – Power Tools for Changemakers KIMBERLY’S FREE MEDITATIONS Handling the Pain of Being an Animal Advocate Creating Healthy Boundaries and Expansive Habits for Animal Advocates Conflict and Bridge-Building Tools for Animal Advocates Tools for Better Focus, Motivation, and Productivity for Animal Advocates INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPT We are thrilled to expand the accessibility of our podcast by offering written transcripts of the interviews! Click here to read this episode's interview. _____________________________________________ Thank you for listening to the Our Hen House podcast! If you enjoy our podcasts, believe in our mission to effectively mainstream the movement to end the exploitation of animals, find community and solace in our shows and resources, and would like to show your support for vegan indie media, please make a donation today. Subscribe to our show on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcatcher, and don’t forget to leave a 5-star review! Check out Our Hen House’s other podcasts: The Animal Law Podcast, The Teaching Jasmin How to Cook Vegan Podcast, and the Antiracism in Animal Advocacy Audio Series. Follow us on social media! You can find Our Hen House on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, or X (formerly Twitter). The Our Hen House theme song is written and performed by Michael Harren. __________________________ This episode is brought to you in part through the generosity of A Well-Fed World. A Well-Fed World provides the means for change by empowering individuals, social justice organizations, and political decision-makers to embrace the benefits of plant-based foods and farming. Learn more at awfw.org.
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Mar 16, 2024 • 1h 10min

Stop Ventilation Shutdown! with Dr Crystal Heath

The work of activists brought the use of ventilation shutdown as a “depopulation” method during avian flu and COVID slowdowns to light, but what is the status of this cruel method of killing? Dr. Crystal Heath joins us once again to discuss the use of heat stroke in factory farms and the campaigns to combat this cruelty. ABOUT OUR GUEST Dr. Crystal Heath is a graduate of the UC Davis School of Veterinary Medicine and currently works as a shelter veterinarian for several shelters and non-profits throughout Northern California. She won a Jefferson Award for her volunteer work providing medical services to animals in Fiji. Dr. Heath became involved in the Animal Rights movement just three years ago while volunteering for the Fur Ban campaign (AB-44) in California and just recently worked on the campaign to get the City of Berkeley to set a goal of shifting its food purchases to 100% plant-based. She is on the founding committee of Veterinarians Against Ventilation Shutdown and founder of Our Honor, an organization committed to supporting animal professionals who want to speak their conscience, work to create more ethical systems and foster connections between like-minded professionals to create real systemic changes. She owns Vet Harmony, a veterinary practice committed to providing access to care and public education. RESOURCES These 15 Vegan Costco Products Will Have You Signing Up for a Membership ASAP Veterinarians Against Ventilation Shutdown website Our Honor website Vet Harmony website Dr Crystal Heath on Facebook Dr Crystal Heath on X (formerly Twitter) Dr Crystal Heath on Instagram Opinion: Avian influenza outbreak exposes the betrayal of our values Videos give closer look at Miami Seaquarium conditions as vets join call to shut it down FEDERAL PROBES, SICK ANIMALS, AND FED-UP VETS: THE MIAMI SEAQUARIUM IS ON THE BRINK OF COLLAPSE Miami Seaquarium faces eviction, but what about the animals? Taxpayers have spent more than $1 billion dollars to support corporate interests during the highly pathogenic avian influenza outbreak INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPT We are thrilled to expand the accessibility of our podcast by offering written transcripts of the interviews! Click here to read this episode's interview. _____________________________________________ Thank you for listening to the Our Hen House podcast! If you enjoy our podcasts, believe in our mission to effectively mainstream the movement to end the exploitation of animals, find community and solace in our shows and resources, and would like to show your support for vegan indie media, please make a donation today. Subscribe to our show on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcatcher, and don’t forget to leave a 5-star review! Check out Our Hen House’s other podcasts: The Animal Law Podcast, The Teaching Jasmin How to Cook Vegan Podcast, and the Antiracism in Animal Advocacy Audio Series. Follow us on social media! You can find Our Hen House on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, or X (formerly Twitter). The Our Hen House theme song is written and performed by Michael Harren. __________________________ This episode is brought to you in part through the generosity of A Well-Fed World. A Well-Fed World provides the means for change by empowering individuals, social justice organizations, and political decision-makers to embrace the benefits of plant-based foods and farming. Learn more at awfw.org.
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Mar 9, 2024 • 1h 21min

Plantega with Nil Zacharias

Every once in a while, someone comes up with a brand new idea for getting people to try and love delicious vegan food. Nil Zacharias joins us to talk about how he is making his brilliant idea a reality with Plantega, a ready-to-launch vegan menu that has been adopted by bodegas across New York City and is getting ready to take over the world. ABOUT OUR GUEST Nil Zacharias is an entrepreneur, author, and strategic advisor with a passion for food systems change. He is the Founder and CEO of Plantega, a company that’s on a mission to make plant-based food easier to access everywhere. He also hosts the Eat For The Planet Podcast and co-authored the Eat For the Planet books. Nil has previously co-founded a number of startups and continues to advise several organizations in the climate solutions space. Nil Zacharias on X (formerly Twitter) Nil Zacharius on LinkedIn RESOURCES Plantega on Instagram Random Word Generator Scarlet Spark Workshops INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPT We are thrilled to expand the accessibility of our podcast by offering written transcripts of the interviews! Click here to read this episode's interview. _____________________________________________ Thank you for listening to the Our Hen House podcast! If you enjoy our podcasts, believe in our mission to effectively mainstream the movement to end the exploitation of animals, find community and solace in our shows and resources, and would like to show your support for vegan indie media, please make a donation today. Subscribe to our show on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcatcher, and don’t forget to leave a 5-star review! Check out Our Hen House’s other podcasts: The Animal Law Podcast, The Teaching Jasmin How to Cook Vegan Podcast, and the Antiracism in Animal Advocacy Audio Series. Follow us on social media! You can find Our Hen House on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, or X (formerly Twitter). The Our Hen House theme song is written and performed by Michael Harren. __________________________ This episode is brought to you in part through the generosity of A Well-Fed World. A Well-Fed World provides the means for change by empowering individuals, social justice organizations, and political decision-makers to embrace the benefits of plant-based foods and farming. Learn more at awfw.org.
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Mar 2, 2024 • 1h 31min

Defending Animals with Kendra Coulter

When animals are neglected or abused, whose responsibility is it to respond? Kendra Coulter, author of Defending Animals, joins us to discuss her book’s deep dive into the patchwork of governmental and non-profit organizations that make up animal response teams. ABOUT OUR GUEST Kendra Coulter is a Professor in Management and Organizational Studies at Huron University College at Western University and a Fellow of the Oxford Centre for Animal Ethics. Dr. Coulter is an award-winning author of influential scholarly and trade books, and her fiction debut, The Tortoise’s Tale, has been purchased by Simon & Schuster for publication in 2025. Her latest book, Defending Animals: Finding Hope on the Front Lines of Animal Protection, was acquired by The MIT Press after a multi-publisher auction. Dr. Jane Goodall calls it “a powerful call to action.” RESOURCES New York Mourns Flaco, an Owl Who Inspired as He Made the City His Own Animals at a New Jersey Petting Zoo Find Their Happily Ever After Christspiracy website Whether or not to have kids amid the climate crisis How the future of rainfall will affect our communities Defending Animals book Dr Kendra Coulter on X (formerly Twitter) Dr Kendra Coulter on Instagram INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPT We are thrilled to expand the accessibility of our podcast by offering written transcripts of the interviews! Click here to read this episode's interview. _____________________________________________ Thank you for listening to the Our Hen House podcast! If you enjoy our podcasts, believe in our mission to effectively mainstream the movement to end the exploitation of animals, find community and solace in our shows and resources, and would like to show your support for vegan indie media, please make a donation today. Subscribe to our show on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcatcher, and don’t forget to leave a 5-star review! Check out Our Hen House’s other podcasts: The Animal Law Podcast, The Teaching Jasmin How to Cook Vegan Podcast, and the Antiracism in Animal Advocacy Audio Series. Follow us on social media! You can find Our Hen House on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, or X (formerly Twitter). The Our Hen House theme song is written and performed by Michael Harren. __________________________ This episode is brought to you in part through the generosity of A Well-Fed World. A Well-Fed World provides the means for change by empowering individuals, social justice organizations, and political decision-makers to embrace the benefits of plant-based foods and farming. Learn more at awfw.org.

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