DNVR Denver Nuggets Podcast

Adam Mares, Eric Wedum and Dev Johnson recap an incredible Nuggets Christmas Day win over the Phoenix Suns. The guys react to Nikola Jokic's monster night, Aaron Gordon's dunk of the year, Jamal Murray's second half and much more. Also, notes on Michael Porter Jr.'s night. Then, Brendan Vogt and Harrison Wind call in from Ball Arena.Recap - 4:10Big Takeaways - 12:20Vogt-ing time - 28:40MPJ - 42:03The Bench - 48:30Wind Chimes - 52:40BUY TICKETS HERE: https://gametime.hnyj8s.net/c/3442941/1441543/10874TAILGATE WITH US: https://bit.ly/3fwCPha Breck Brew Nice List Sweepstakes: https://www.breckbrew.com/blog/nicelistsweepstakes/Check out Private Internet Access at https://www.piavpn.com/Nuggets for 83% off for the 2 year plan! That’s 4 months free ($2.03 per month).Visit https://dkng.co/DNVR to sign up for DraftKings Sportsbook using the code “DNVR”If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/LA/MI//MD/NJ/TN/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/KS/NH), 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).21+ (18+ NH/WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/KS/LA(select parishes)/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. Void in ONT. $150 in Free bets: Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 pregame moneyline bet. $150 issued as six (6) $25 free bets. Bet must win. Free Bets are non-cashable and cannot be withdrawn. Free bets must be wagered 1x and stake is not included in any returns or winnings. Free Bets expire 7 days (168 hours) after being awarded. Ends 12/31/22. See eligibility & terms at sportsbook.draftkings.com/basketballterms.When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Last week we've seen three impressive wins with three basically different rosters.The Nuggets started with the monster triple-double by Jokić vs the Hornets and continued with a defensive master class without two starters versus the Grizzlies.Finally, they outshined Dame Lillard, with big contributions from different guys.Miroslav and Voja speak about their main takeaways from these games.TAILGATE WITH US: https://bit.ly/3fwCPha ALL THINGS DNVR: https://linktr.ee/dnvrsportsSUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/c/DNVR_SportsVisit https://dkng.co/DNVR to sign up for DraftKings Sportsbook using the code “DNVR”If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/LA/MI//MD/NJ/TN/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/KS/NH), 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).21+ (18+ NH/WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/KS/LA(select parishes)/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. Void in ONT. $150 in Free bets: Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 pregame moneyline bet. $150 issued as six (6) $25 free bets. Bet must win. Free Bets are non-cashable and cannot be withdrawn. Free bets must be wagered 1x and stake is not included in any returns or winnings. Free Bets expire 7 days (168 hours) after being awarded. Ends 12/31/22. See eligibility & terms at sportsbook.draftkings.com/basketballterms.When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions.Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Special Guest SwipaCam joins the Winners Lounge after the starters crush Portland.BUY TICKETS HERE: https://gametime.hnyj8s.net/c/3442941/1441543/10874TAILGATE WITH US: https://bit.ly/3fwCPha Breck Brew Nice List Sweepstakes: https://www.breckbrew.com/blog/nicelistsweepstakes/Check out Private Internet Access at https://www.piavpn.com/Nuggets for 83% off for the 2 year plan! That’s 4 months free ($2.03 per month).Visit https://dkng.co/DNVR to sign up for DraftKings Sportsbook using the code “DNVR”If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/LA/MI//MD/NJ/TN/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/KS/NH), 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).21+ (18+ NH/WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/KS/LA(select parishes)/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. Void in ONT. $150 in Free bets: Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 pregame moneyline bet. $150 issued as six (6) $25 free bets. Bet must win. Free Bets are non-cashable and cannot be withdrawn. Free bets must be wagered 1x and stake is not included in any returns or winnings. Free Bets expire 7 days (168 hours) after being awarded. Ends 12/31/22. See eligibility & terms at sportsbook.draftkings.com/basketballterms.When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Adam Mares, Harrison Wind, Brendan Vogt and Eric Wedum go over more notes from last night's win over Memphis, then go into Hot Box and Hot Takes and reveal some of their hot takes about the Nuggets right now that they actually believe. Finally, a brief but important Mailbag.Nikola Jokić stepping up as a leader? -5:00Was Aaron Gordon the difference maker this game?- 12: 35Take Machine- 25:00Mailbag - 51:30BUY TICKETS HERE: https://gametime.hnyj8s.net/c/3442941/1441543/10874TAILGATE WITH US: https://bit.ly/3fwCPha Breck Brew Nice List Sweepstakes: https://www.breckbrew.com/blog/nicelistsweepstakes/Check out Private Internet Access at https://www.piavpn.com/Nuggets for 83% off for the 2 year plan! That’s 4 months free ($2.03 per month).Visit https://dkng.co/DNVR to sign up for DraftKings Sportsbook using the code “DNVR”If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/LA/MI//MD/NJ/TN/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/KS/NH), 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).21+ (18+ NH/WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/KS/LA(select parishes)/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. Void in ONT. $150 in Free bets: Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 pregame moneyline bet. $150 issued as six (6) $25 free bets. Bet must win. Free Bets are non-cashable and cannot be withdrawn. Free bets must be wagered 1x and stake is not included in any returns or winnings. Free Bets expire 7 days (168 hours) after being awarded. Ends 12/31/22. See eligibility & terms at sportsbook.draftkings.com/basketballterms.When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Harrison Wind, Brendan Vogt, Eric Wedum and Dev Johnson break down the Nuggets' epic (blowout?) win over the Memphis Grizzlies where Denver played its best defense of the season and got its best win of the year. The guys discuss Christian Braun's move into the starting lineup, Nikola Jokic's elite night, the starting lineup's synergy and why the bench did just enough. Then, Jokic talks suits and Adam Mares calls in from Ball Arena.Quick recap - 3:34Big takeaways - 7:00Christian Braun - 15:00Jokic - 28:40Bones - 36:20Mares - 47:20Superchats - 1:01:00BUY TICKETS HERE: https://gametime.hnyj8s.net/c/3442941/1441543/10874TAILGATE WITH US: https://bit.ly/3fwCPha Breck Brew Nice List Sweepstakes: https://www.breckbrew.com/blog/nicelistsweepstakes/Check out Private Internet Access at https://www.piavpn.com/Nuggets for 83% off for the 2 year plan! That’s 4 months free ($2.03 per month).Visit https://dkng.co/DNVR to sign up for DraftKings Sportsbook using the code “DNVR”If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/LA/MI//MD/NJ/TN/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/KS/NH), 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).21+ (18+ NH/WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/KS/LA(select parishes)/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. Void in ONT. $150 in Free bets: Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 pregame moneyline bet. $150 issued as six (6) $25 free bets. Bet must win. Free Bets are non-cashable and cannot be withdrawn. Free bets must be wagered 1x and stake is not included in any returns or winnings. Free Bets expire 7 days (168 hours) after being awarded. Ends 12/31/22. See eligibility & terms at sportsbook.draftkings.com/basketballterms.When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Adam Mares, Harrison Wind, Brendan Vogt and Eric Wedum discuss what individual records Nikola Jokic will break this season? Will he get more than 27 rebounds in a game? Will he score more than 50 points in a game? Will he get more than 15 assists in a game? Also, what are the encouraging and discouraging team-wide trends this season?Jokic in takeover mode? - 8:00Jokic record Book - 9:00Jokic Rebounds- 15:00Jokic Assists- 17:00Jokic Steals - 19:00Jokic Blocks- 20:00Jokic Free throws- 25:15Can Jokic win MVP a third time? - 36:00What is concerning about the Nuggets? - 43:00Homestand is Starting - 51:20BUY TICKETS HERE: https://gametime.hnyj8s.net/c/3442941/1441543/10874TAILGATE WITH US: https://bit.ly/3fwCPha Breck Brew Nice List Sweepstakes: https://www.breckbrew.com/blog/nicelistsweepstakes/Check out Private Internet Access at https://www.piavpn.com/Nuggets for 83% off for the 2 year plan! That’s 4 months free ($2.03 per month).Visit https://dkng.co/DNVR to sign up for DraftKings Sportsbook using the code “DNVR”If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/LA/MI//MD/NJ/TN/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/KS/NH), 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).21+ (18+ NH/WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/KS/LA(select parishes)/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. Void in ONT. $150 in Free bets: Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 pregame moneyline bet. $150 issued as six (6) $25 free bets. Bet must win. Free Bets are non-cashable and cannot be withdrawn. Free bets must be wagered 1x and stake is not included in any returns or winnings. Free Bets expire 7 days (168 hours) after being awarded. Ends 12/31/22. See eligibility & terms at sportsbook.draftkings.com/basketballterms.When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Harrison Wind, Eric Wedum and Dev Johnson break down Nikola Jokic historic night in the Nuggets' win over the Hornets and discuss how Denver eeked out an important home victory over a struggling Charlotte team. Notes on Jokic's night, Denver's bench, which continues to crater, Jamal Murray's struggles tonight and much more from the Nuggets' win. Then, Brendan Vogt and Adam Mares join from Ball Arena.Fast Recap - 3:00Big Takeaways - 6:00Vogt-ing time - 25:00The defense - 36:40Superchats - 46:00ATA - 55:00Mares call-in - 1:05:00BUY TICKETS HERE: https://gametime.hnyj8s.net/c/3442941/1441543/10874TAILGATE WITH US: https://bit.ly/3fwCPha Breck Brew Nice List Sweepstakes: https://www.breckbrew.com/blog/nicelistsweepstakes/Check out Private Internet Access at https://www.piavpn.com/Nuggets for 83% off for the 2 year plan! That’s 4 months free ($2.03 per month).Visit https://dkng.co/DNVR to sign up for DraftKings Sportsbook using the code “DNVR”If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/LA/MI//MD/NJ/TN/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/KS/NH), 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).21+ (18+ NH/WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/KS/LA(select parishes)/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. Void in ONT. $150 in Free bets: Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 pregame moneyline bet. $150 issued as six (6) $25 free bets. Bet must win. Free Bets are non-cashable and cannot be withdrawn. Free bets must be wagered 1x and stake is not included in any returns or winnings. Free Bets expire 7 days (168 hours) after being awarded. Ends 12/31/22. See eligibility & terms at sportsbook.draftkings.com/basketballterms.When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In today's show, Jovan Buha of the Athletic joins Miroslav and Voja to speak about last night's Lakers - Nuggets game in LA, the roster construction of both teams, but also how it looks like to interact with the Lakers fans.TAILGATE WITH US: https://bit.ly/3fwCPhaALL THINGS DNVR: https://linktr.ee/dnvrsportsSUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/c/DNVR_SportsVisit https://dkng.co/DNVR to sign up for DraftKings Sportsbook using the code “DNVR"If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/LA/MI//MD/NJ/TN/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/KS/NH), 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).21+ (18+ NH/WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/KS/LA(select parishes)/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. Void in ONT. $150 in Free bets: Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 pregame moneyline bet. $150 issued as six (6) $25 free bets. Bet must win. Free Bets are non-cashable and cannot be withdrawn. Free bets must be wagered 1x and stake is not included in any returns or winnings. Free Bets expire 7 days (168 hours) after being awarded. Ends 12/31/22. See eligibility & terms at sportsbook.draftkings.com/basketballterms.When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions.Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Adam Mares, Harrison Wind, Brendan Vogt and Dev Johnson react to the Nuggets' loss to the Lakers and discuss how Denver's defense somehow continues to get worse. Also, notes on Nikola Jokic's night and defense, Jamal Murray's recent play, Bones Hyland's struggles and more. Then, the guys get a special delivery at the DNVR Bart.Fast breakdown - 4:03Big Takeaways - 8:50Bones - 18:30Jokic - 24:50Jamal - 33:40Zeke out of the rotation - 38:00Malone - 44:00Superchats - 48:00BUY TICKETS HERE: https://gametime.hnyj8s.net/c/3442941/1441543/10874TAILGATE WITH US: https://bit.ly/3fwCPha Breck Brew Nice List Sweepstakes: https://www.breckbrew.com/blog/nicelistsweepstakes/Check out Private Internet Access at https://www.piavpn.com/Nuggets for 83% off for the 2 year plan! That’s 4 months free ($2.03 per month).Visit https://dkng.co/DNVR to sign up for DraftKings Sportsbook using the code “DNVR”If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/LA/MI//MD/NJ/TN/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/KS/NH), 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).21+ (18+ NH/WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/KS/LA(select parishes)/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. Void in ONT. $150 in Free bets: Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 pregame moneyline bet. $150 issued as six (6) $25 free bets. Bet must win. Free Bets are non-cashable and cannot be withdrawn. Free bets must be wagered 1x and stake is not included in any returns or winnings. Free Bets expire 7 days (168 hours) after being awarded. Ends 12/31/22. See eligibility & terms at sportsbook.draftkings.com/basketballterms.When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Harrison Wind and Brendan Vogt celebrate Jokmas! Merry Dec. 15! The guys go over the significance of the day in Nuggets history and look back at last night's win and Nikola Jokic's excellence. Then, the Mailbag. Who is in the Nuggets' circle of trust? What's actually wrong with the defense? Who as of now is in the Nuggets' playoff rotation? That and much more.The history of Jokmas - 4:18Celebrating Jokmas - 20:00Presents under the tree - 30:00Trade szn - 31:00Playoff rotation - 46:30BUY TICKETS HERE: https://gametime.hnyj8s.net/c/3442941/1441543/10874TAILGATE WITH US: https://bit.ly/3fwCPha Breck Brew Nice List Sweepstakes: https://www.breckbrew.com/blog/nicelistsweepstakes/Check out Private Internet Access at https://www.piavpn.com/Nuggets for 83% off for the 2 year plan! That’s 4 months free ($2.03 per month).Visit https://dkng.co/DNVR to sign up for DraftKings Sportsbook using the code “DNVR”If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/LA/MI//MD/NJ/TN/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/KS/NH), 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).21+ (18+ NH/WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/KS/LA(select parishes)/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. Void in ONT. $150 in Free bets: Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 pregame moneyline bet. $150 issued as six (6) $25 free bets. Bet must win. Free Bets are non-cashable and cannot be withdrawn. Free bets must be wagered 1x and stake is not included in any returns or winnings. Free Bets expire 7 days (168 hours) after being awarded. Ends 12/31/22. See eligibility & terms at sportsbook.draftkings.com/basketballterms.When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.