

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay
The Ringer
Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay dissect the biggest topics in Black culture, politics, and sports. Two times per week, they will wade into the most important and timely conversations, frequently inviting guests on the podcast and occasionally debating each other.
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Feb 3, 2026 • 2h 9min
Don Lemon’s Arrest and ‘Melania’ a Box Office Hit? Plus, Howard Bryant on the Erasure of Paul Robeson
Matthew Belloni, entertainment journalist and industry podcaster, breaks down why Melania outperformed at the box office and what studio politics and marketing moves drove it. Howard Bryant, author and cultural critic, explores the erasure and political battles around Paul Robeson and connects Robeson and Jackie Robinson through history and power struggles.

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Jan 30, 2026 • 2h 20min
Melania the "Trophy Wife," Nicki’s MAGA Turn, and Black Prestige Media With Ashley Allison
Ashley Allison, media entrepreneur and owner of The Root, and former Obama-Biden advisor, discusses buying The Root to steward Black storytelling. Conversations cover the Melania documentary controversy, Nicki Minaj’s turn toward Trump, congressional fights over DHS and ICE, shifts in hip-hop from responsibility to commerce, and why Black prestige media must evolve.

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Jan 27, 2026 • 1h 55min
Ye’s Apology, Latest Death in Minneapolis, and Aldis Hodge and Ben Watkins on ‘Cross’
Aldis Hodge, actor playing Alex Cross, talks Season 2 and character growth. Ben Watkins, showrunner of Cross, explains creative choices and season structure. They explore race, policing, representation, and storytelling risks. Short, sharp takes on pressure, audience reaction, and what's next for the series.

Jan 23, 2026 • 2h 8min
Michelle Appears on Call Her Daddy, Rachel’s Freedom, and Keith Edwards on Critiquing Crockett
In this engaging discussion, political commentator Keith Edwards shares his insights on the Texas Senate race while weighing in on the nuances of campaign messaging and electability. He critically analyzes the dynamics between candidates Jasmine Crockett and James Talarico, debating the challenges of a Black woman winning statewide in Texas. The conversation dives into social media's impact on political discourse and the sensitivities around critiquing candidates. Plus, Van and Rachel react to Rachel's financial freedom and Michelle Obama's appearance on Call Her Daddy.

Jan 20, 2026 • 2h 18min
Feeling for Josh Allen, Stephen A. and the Bruhs, Plus Charlie Kirk the Time Traveler
Van and Rachel dive into a weekend of sports, reflecting on Josh Allen's struggles and the emotional reactions from fans. They tackle Stephen A. Smith's recent missteps regarding Greek life and the misconceptions surrounding it. The conversation shifts to a bold take on the Black Panther Party’s future and critiques of political figures like Gavin Newsom. In a twist, they hilariously dissect Candace Owens' wild conspiracy theories about Charlie Kirk, concluding with a light-hearted debate on various conspiracy myths.

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Jan 16, 2026 • 2h 24min
Kanye West Will Return, Druski and the Megachurch, and the Iranian Conflict
Hussein 'Huss' Banai, an associate professor of international studies at Indiana University, lends his expertise on the current protests and geopolitical landscape in Iran. He discusses the triggers behind the recent widespread protests, highlighting the role of economic collapse and student activism. Banai also analyzes the regime's crackdown and the critical role of Iranian women in leading the movement. Additionally, the hosts tackle Teyana Taylor's support for Kanye West and the cultural implications of Druski's megachurch skit.

Jan 13, 2026 • 2h 23min
‘Sinners,’ Jasmine Crockett, and the Black Panthers
The hosts dive into awards season, sharing their thoughts on the NAACP Image Awards and the recent nominations. They discuss the unsettling situation in Minnesota regarding police accountability. A lively debate unfolds about the Black Panthers, exploring their role in educating citizens about their rights. Jasmine Crockett faces scrutiny, leading to a conversation on political image and accountability. Lastly, they reflect on Steve Nash’s critique of youth sports capitalism, connecting it to broader issues in healthcare and education.

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Jan 9, 2026 • 1h 55min
Minneapolis ICE Shooting, Chris Redd Gets Candid, and the Penis Lawsuit
Politically charged discussions kick off with a deep dive into the Minneapolis ICE shooting and its implications for civil liberties. The hosts also weigh in on Spencer Pratt's surprising bid for L.A. mayor and the unique lawsuit from NFL player Matt Kalil over unwelcome comments about his anatomy. Comedian Chris Redd opens up about personal struggles and the challenges of vulnerability in the public eye. Tune in for insights that blend humor, politics, and candid reflections on the state of our world.

Jan 6, 2026 • 2h 41min
The Venezuela Takeover. Plus, a Conversation About Adin Ross, Doechii, and Black Men.
Ryan Grim, a journalist and host at Breaking Points, dives into the complexities of U.S. actions in Venezuela. He highlights the motivations behind targeting Maduro and the revival of the Monroe Doctrine, unraveling the strategic oil interests in the region. The discussion expands to international implications, including how China's role alters the landscape. The hosts also tackle intriguing cultural topics, including lawsuits against Will Smith and Tyler Perry, and the dynamics surrounding influencers like Adin Ross and Doechii in today's climate.

Dec 30, 2025 • 2h 21min
Do the Epstein Files Matter? Is Rachel an Auntie? Plus, Interracial Relationships and a New Diddy Doc
Van and Rachel dive into the controversial new Epstein documents, questioning their significance and trustworthiness. The duo playfully debates the 'auntie' label and the dynamics of social media platforms like Threads versus Twitter. They tackle topics like interracial relationships, the backlash against Chappelle, and the newly released Diddy documentary. Insights into Nigerian strikes and a humorous take on a violent Russian reality show round out their engaging discussion. Get ready for spirited conversations and thought-provoking insights!


