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Jason Rissman
Invested in Climate hosts conversations with leading thinkers to help our listeners do more to address the climate crisis through their Work, Investments, Learning, Lifestyle and Activism.
People everywhere, communities, governments and all sectors of the economy are mobilizing to address climate change. The scale of this global action is unprecedented. Never before have so many people dedicated so much energy, creativity and capital to addressing a shared, global threat. Will it be enough? What else is needed? And, most importantly, what can you do?
We all have a part to play, so let’s go.
People everywhere, communities, governments and all sectors of the economy are mobilizing to address climate change. The scale of this global action is unprecedented. Never before have so many people dedicated so much energy, creativity and capital to addressing a shared, global threat. Will it be enough? What else is needed? And, most importantly, what can you do?
We all have a part to play, so let’s go.
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Mar 24, 2026 • 47min
Reimagining Higher Ed for the Climate Era with Unity Environmental University, Ep #131
Education and our ability to respond to climate change are inexorably linked. Major international studies have shown that education is the single strongest predictor of whether or not someone is aware of climate change. In the US, while 74% of Americans support climate action, support is typically 10–20 points higher among those with a college education. It's not about perceptions on climate change; a more educated workforce is better able to innovate, accelerate the climate transition, and adapt in a less stable world – especially if that education builds climate resilient skills.One could almost imagine a university designed around this need – and that is exactly what the team at Unity Environmental University are building. Today, we're joined by Unity President Dr. Melik Khoury who is creating not just a new curriculum, but a new, more inclusive approach to higher ed. Dr. Khoury argues powerfully against the elitism that has underpinned our educational system and climate narratives. We spoke about his background, the role of education in addressing climate change, how Unity is different, and the influence it could have. Dr Khoury’s energy is contagious and we're sure he’ll get you thinking. Enjoy.On today’s episode, we cover:03:06 – Dr. Khoury’s upbringing in West Africa and awakening to environmental issues04:24 – Discovering the real impacts of resource exploitation06:01 – Choosing higher education transformation as the main lever08:32 – The core climate problem: beyond politics and single-issue framing09:04 – Climate as transdisciplinary: food, energy, people, commerce11:05 – History of Unity Environmental University13:07 – Transforming Unity’s model and unbundling education15:14 – New operational model and rethinking the faculty role15:23 – Scaling Unity and redefining what a university is19:42 – Preparing students to operate in complex, uncertain systems20:15 – Embedding climate and sustainability across the curriculum23:14 – AI’s challenge to traditional notions of knowledge and learning23:48 – What Unity is learning from its students and their needs28:14 – What success looks like for a climate-focused university28:30 – Influencing the broader higher-ed ecosystem31:47 – How AI is changing higher education and climate learning32:11 – Why Unity embraces rather than bans AI35:58 – Concrete AI experiments at Unity (UNA, tutors, automation)39:31 – Is climate momentum fading? Perception vs. reality39:57 – Climate’s “brand problem” and the real enemy: ignorance42:58 – Depoliticizing climate and making the economic case43:16 – How we broadly attack ignorance through education reform45:52 – Call for partners and funders to back scalable climate education45:52 – Closing thanks and episode wrap-upResources MentionedUnity Environmental UniversityConnect with usDr. Melik KhouryJason RissmanKeep up with Invested In ClimateSign up for our NewsletterLinkedInInstagramIf you like what you hear, subscribe and rate to support the show! Have feedback or ideas for future episodes, events, or partnerships? Get in touch!

Mar 10, 2026 • 58min
Creating Leaders for a Regenerative Economy with Work on Climate, Ep #130
Imagine for a moment if economic activity made nature and society healthier. It’s a notion that at first might seem absurdly idealistic, and then when you think about it, maybe essential for our survival and thus perhaps what the goal of an economy should actually be. Welcome to the concept of regenerative economics. There’s a growing number of leading thinkers, organizations, policymakers, and even businesses fueling the regenerative movement. With AI and a new geopolitical order creating massive disruption, it’s an important time to consider bold visions for the future.Today, we’re joined by someone who’s both a bold visionary and practical implementer. Eugene Kirpichov left his dream job at Google in 2020 to found Work on Climate, a community that has now helped tens of thousands of people looking for ways to address climate change. Eugene sees communities as mindbogglingly effective for scaling impact. By helping people realize their potential as climate leaders, Work on Climate is harnessing the power of community to work towards a regenerative economy. Eugene is a guy of big ideas, who thinks about systems strategically and makes things happen. It was a blast talking to Eugene and we suspect you’ll enjoy the conversation as well. Here we go.On today’s episode, we cover:00:57 – Regenerative Economics & Introducing Eugene02:41 – Recent Encounters & Shared Community03:00 – Eugene’s Early Life in Russia & Tech Beginnings06:25 – Joining Google & Finding Eugene’s Niche08:47 – Eugene’s Climate Wake‑Up & Decision to Leave Google10:30 – Discovering the Climate Solutions Ecosystem12:56 – Founding Work on Climate14:18 – Community Power & Founder Success Stories from Work on Climate15:34 – How Work on Climate Operates & Is Funded17:36 – Eugene’s Shift: From Climate Jobs to Climate Leaders21:30 – Examples of Everyday Climate Leadership24:25 – Three Qualities of a Climate Leader26:33 – Rethinking the “Most Impactful Thing I Can Do”29:56 – Eugene’s Long‑Term Vision for Work on Climate33:02 – What a Regenerative Economy Is38:18 – How to Build a Regenerative Economy in Practice44:18 – AI as System Accelerator & Regenerative Tool48:15 – EPA Ruling, Shared Reality & Coordination51:32 – What Eugene Is Reading & Learning From55:07 – Call to Action for Funders & IndividualsResources MentionedWork on ClimateAn Inconvenient TruthAn Inconvenient Sequel: Truth to PowerWork for ClimateEigen RoboticsClimate Capital: Tom ChiRelationality: David JayPedagogy of the Oppressed: Paulo FreireImpact Networks: David EhrlichmanEugene’s article on the EPA rulingConnect with usEugene KirpichovJason RissmanKeep up with Invested In ClimateSign up for our NewsletterLinkedInInstagramIf you like what you hear, subscribe and rate to support the show! Have feedback or ideas for future episodes, events, or partnerships? Get in touch!

Feb 24, 2026 • 40min
Adding Rigor to Climate Finance with Robert Brown, Ep #129
Frequent listeners know we're always eager to learn about how climate investing needs to change to be more effective. With the attacks on ESG and a new political era, we’re clearly in a new chapter for climate investing and being intentional about the ingredients, language and goals of this new chapter is critical for delivering both solid returns and real impact.Rob Brown argues that its time to step back from overreach and inauthentic impact goals, and fuel this new chapter with rigor. Rob wears a couple of hats as Director of Climate Research at Resolution Investors and Chief Research Officer at Impact Evaluation Lab. In these roles, Rob bring his decades of investment experience using research and analysis to improve long term thinking, risk management and what he calls mission authenticity, or the ability to really deliver on the kind of impact one promises. Tune in for a deeply fascinating conversation about how climate investing is maturing and the work that still needs to be done for this new chapter. Enjoy.On today’s episode, we cover:02:41 – Rob’s career journey & love of solving problems05:17 – From Just Capital to Impact Evaluation Lab & Resolution Investors09:52 – How to tell serious impact investors from pretenders14:34 – Is rigor a cost center? Making the ROI case19:29 – A lightning history of sustainable investing23:14 – Why sustainable finance is “deeply stressed”27:08 – Climate investing as long‑term risk‑adjusted returns29:27 – Two key shifts: longer horizons & real tech expertise33:02 – Rigor, incentives, and how the field grows up36:45 – Why sustainable investing is the future of capital markets39:11 – Closing remarksResources MentionedResolution InvestorsImpact Evaluation Lab.Just CapitalAtlas Impact PartnersGeneration Investment ManagementConnect with usRob BrownJason RissmanKeep up with Invested In ClimateSign up for our NewsletterLinkedInInstagramIf you like what you hear, subscribe and rate to support the show! Have feedback or ideas for future episodes, events, or partnerships? Get in touch!

Jan 27, 2026 • 48min
Earthshot & Elemental’s 1–2 Punch for Climate: VC + Philanthropy, Ep #128
We all know that no single investment strategy—and no single asset class—is going to fund the climate innovation we need on its own. Moving real solutions forward takes multiple tools working together. That’s why I’ve long been drawn to catalytic capital and blended finance—using philanthropy to unlock risk-taking and bring more and different kinds of investors along.That’s what drew me to the work of Elemental Impact and Earthshot Ventures, two organizations founded by Dawn Lippert that are designed to move critical climate technologies from early validation to scale. Elemental uses philanthropic capital to de-risk and accelerate early solutions—but for those solutions to reach real commercialization, venture and private markets have to follow. That’s where Earthshot Ventures comes in, investing early in companies with a strong “why now.” Together, they direct capital into consequential companies to create impact at scale.In this episode, we’re joined by Dawn, along with Matt Logan, General Partner at Earthshot Ventures. We talk about how Elemental and Earthshot work together in practice, real examples of the companies and projects they’re backing, a new and innovative investment structure they’ve pioneered, and where they see climate investing headed in 2026—and beyond.This conversation kicks off a new deep dive series with Elemental Impact. Stay tuned for more, and if you’d like to find or propose future series ideas, reach out to us through our website.What You’ll LearnThe Power of Catalytic Philanthropy: How a "slice" of philanthropic capital can act as the nucleus for a project, bringing in banks, corporates, and infrastructure funders.The dSAFE Innovation: How Elemental adapted the Y-Combinator SAFE note into a "Development SAFE" to reduce transaction costs and provide non-dilutive capital for early projects.Community-Led Scaling: Why the "human" half of the solution—customers, cities, and communities—is just as essential as the technology itself for climate tech to succeed in the real world.A VC Lens on Climate: How Earthshot operates as a returns-focused venture fund that only backs climate-positive companies, uses a proprietary outbound-sourcing engine to find founders before they’re fundraising, and targets “cheaper, better, faster—with greener as a co-benefit” business models.The 2026 Investment Frontier: Why Earthshot is doubling down on Space Tech for remote agriculture and wildfire monitoring, and why Robotics is a top category to watch for automating "dull, dirty, and dangerous" climate jobs.A Unique Partnership Model: How a service agreement and shared revenue between a non-profit and a VC fund creates a sustainable ecosystem for innovation.In today’s episode, we cover:02:48 2025 temperature check05:39 Why Dawn started Elemental and then Earthshot07:39 Matt’s background and path into climate VC09:49 Earthshot’s thesis and sourcing–picking–winning–helping11:15 How Elemental and Earthshot are structurally linked13:34 Philanthropy, donor-advised funds, and recycling returns16:09 Nitricity case study – low‑carbon fertilizer18:21 The Development SAFE (dSAFE)21:31 Earthshot portfolio highlights – KoBold Metals, Etched & SuperCircle27:01 Workforce, community, and local impact30:31 Fervo Energy case study – rural apprenticeships33:46 Policy as alpha in AI, mining, and space35:48 2025 turbulence, donors, and investor caution38:00 Moving beyond solar/wind/EVs in philanthropy38:57 Mining, metals, and transition tradeoffs41:03 2026 outlook – AI, infrastructure, space, and robotics47:49 Optimism and “Audacity” for 2026Resources MentionedElemental ImpactEarthshot VenturesNitricity – Low‑carbon, renewable-powered nitrogen fertilizerKoBold Metals – AI-powered mineral exploration for the energy transitionEtched – AI accelerator chips built specifically for transformer modelsSuperCircle – Circular logistics and recycling infrastructure for apparelFervo Energy – Next‑generation geothermal power developerHubble Network – Satellite network enabling direct-to-space Bluetooth connectivityARPA‑E (Advanced Research Projects Agency–Energy)International Energy Agency (IEA) Advanced Microgrid Solutions – Distributed energy storageConnect with UsDawn LippertMatt LoganJason RissmanElemental ImpactWebsite: https://elementalimpact.com/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/elementalimpact/Earthshot VenturesWebsite: https://www.earthshot.vc/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/earthshot-venturesInvested in ClimateSign up for our NewsletterLinkedInInstagramYoutubeHave feedback or ideas for future episodes, events, or partnerships? Get in touch!

Jan 13, 2026 • 54min
What's Changed and What's Coming in Climate Investing with Rob Day and Raj Atluru, Ep #127
We’re back with the sixth installment of our Missing Middle in Climate Tech series, produced in partnership with Spring Lane Capital.As we kick off 2026, this episode offers a timely, grounded conversation with two seasoned investors who bring decades of perspective to where climate investing has been and where it’s headed next. Rather than focusing on predictions alone, the discussion goes deeper into the nuance of how capital is actually being deployed in today’s market.Rob Day, Co-Founder of Spring Lane Capital, and Raj Atluru, Managing Partner at Activate Capital, trade ideas and reflect on how the climate tech landscape has evolved.Together, they unpack how investor priorities have shifted over time, the metrics they look for in growth-stage companies, and the opportunities emerging from today’s macro forces, including interest rates, deglobalization, and AI’s rapidly escalating energy demand.For listeners looking to understand how experienced investors are navigating complexity, risk, and scale in climate tech right now, this is a conversation worth spending time with.Explore the full Missing Middle in Climate Tech series or reach out with ideas for future collaborations at investedinclimate.com. On today’s episode, we cover:02:20 – Guest Intros & The “Missing Middle” Problem04:39 – A Second Lens on the Missing Middle07:00 – Origin Story of Activate Capital10:40 – Energy, Load Growth & Macro Shifts12:09 – “Why Now?” and Today’s Load Shock17:27 – Structural Causes of the Missing Middle19:26 – Heavy Lifting at Growth Stage25:43 – Hardware Is Back: Fund III Themes30:16 – Scaling, Learning Curves & Project Execution33:00 – From Founder-Led to Scalable Sales40:13 – Being Contrarian (EVs, AI & Hype Cycles)43:57 – EV Fundamentals & Infrastructure Gaps45:15 – Policy vs. Interest Rates47:55 – Home Electrification & Rooftop Solar48:06 – Speed-Round Predictions for 202649:26 – Dry Powder & Exit Fuel51:50 – Climate Tech Becomes “Just Tech”53:06 – Closing & Call to ActionResources MentionedSpring Lane CapitalActivate CapitalDFJ (Draper Fisher Jurvetson)SolarCity (historical, now part of Tesla Energy)EnpalVoltus Crusoe EnergyXNRGYAeronesInfravisionJetsonMuon SpaceSolunaLunar EnergyConnect with usRob DayRaj AtluruJason RissmanKeep up with Invested In ClimateSign up for our NewsletterLinkedInInstagramIf you like what you hear, subscribe and rate to support the show! Have feedback or ideas for future episodes, events, or partnerships? Get in touch!

Jan 6, 2026 • 37min
Why Now is the Best Time in Decades for Climate Investing with Angeleno Group's Daniel Weiss, Ep #126
We always love a chance to hear from someone who’s been investing in climate for a long time. Daniel Weiss fits the bill. His firm, Angeleno Group, was founded in 2001 and since then has led or co-led over $3 billion into clean energy and climate solutions. Daniel and the Angeleno Group also surround themselves with accomplished leaders that bring true global expertise. Their advisory board includes a former US Secretary of Energy, former Secretary of Treasury, UN Ambassador, Nobel Laureate, and several other top scholars and industry leaders.Lean in closely for this conversation and learn from Daniel’s perspective. What we heard was somewhat surprising: that despite the headwinds coming from Washington and rippling around the world, strong deal flow, ever improving talent, and low valuations make this the best time in decades to invest in climate solutions. We spoke about Daniel’s background, this unique moment in climate investing, Angeleno Group’s thesis and recent investments, and much more. Lots to learn about and consider in this episode. Enjoy. On today’s episode, we cover:02:30 – Daniel’s Personal Climate Journey05:30 – From Law to Climate Investing & Founding Angeleno Group07:39 – World Resources Institute (WRI) & Global Systems Change12:29 – Optimism & “The New Global Possible”13:21 – Building Angeleno Group Through Turbulent Times14:36 – Check Sizes, Stages & How Angeleno Invests15:18 – Evolution of Climate Investing & Why 2025 Is So Compelling19:56 – Megatrends: Load Growth, AI & Energy Security22:27 – Angeleno’s Advisory Board & Why It Matters24:19 – Angeleno Group’s Investment Thesis25:18 – Example Investments: Software for the Grid & Wildfire Risk29:08 – Headwinds in Climate Tech: Fundraising & Exits33:05 – Scaling Climate Finance & Global Opportunity34:35 – Climate Week NYC & Hope from the Next Generation36:33 – Closing Thoughts Resources MentionedAngeleno GroupWorld Resources Institute (WRI)Book: The New Global Possible: Rebuilding Optimism in the Age of Climate Crisis by Ani DasguptaGreenhouse Gas ProtocolClimate Week NYCCalifornia Management Review: Climate Finance: Progress, Challenges, and Opportunities on the Path to a Sustainable PlanetSierra ClubEdison International (parent of Southern California Edison)MacArthur FoundationIntergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)Global Forest WatchStem, Inc. Paris Agreement (UNFCCC)United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC)AZZOConnect with usDaniel WeissJason RissmanKeep up with Invested In ClimateSign up for our NewsletterLinkedInInstagramIf you like what you hear, subscribe and rate to support the show! Have feedback or ideas for future episodes, events, or partnerships?Get in touch!

Dec 11, 2025 • 41min
Trust-Based Giving for Climate with Skyline Foundation & Trust-Based Philanthropy Project, Ep #125
Philanthropy plays a uniquely critical role in climate action—it can fund the bold, early-stage, community-led, and systems-changing work that markets and governments too often overlook. And with the federal government cutting funding to a wide range of climate, energy and conservation efforts, philanthropy plays a more important role than ever before.That’s why we’re teaming up with the Skyline Foundation and their Climate Lead, Shereen D’Souza on a series of conversations on climate philanthropy.Over the coming episodes, we’ll explore how philanthropy can accelerate climate solutions—not just by moving more money, but by moving it differently and to high impact topics and geographies. We’ll talk to leaders who are rethinking power, reimagining partnerships, and reshaping the way resources flow.Today, we’re starting with a conversation that sets the tone for the entire series: trust-based philanthropy. What does it look like to fund climate work in ways that are long-term, rooted in real relationships, and prioritize the expertise of grantee organizations? How can funders shift from control to collaboration, and what happens when they do?Shereen and I are joined by Shaady Salehi, Executive Director of the Trust-Based Philanthropy Project. Shaady has been at the forefront of this movement, helping foundations transform their practices and support grantees with more transparency, humility, and flexibility. We talk about Shaady and Shereen’s backgrounds in philanthropy, what trust-based philanthropy is and how it can help non-profit partners be more effective, why it’s relevant to Skyline Foundation’s approach and ways other donors can learn more. This series is one of several deep dive series we’ve created this year. Find the others on InvestedinClimate.com and reach out through the website if you’d like to partner on a deep dive series of your own. On today’s episode, we cover:03:30 – Shadi’s Background & Origins of Trust-Based Philanthropy05:34 – Shireen’s Climate Journey & Work on the Paris Agreement08:38 – Inside the Skyline Foundation’s Climate Program10:21 – The Role of Philanthropy vs. Markets in Climate12:20 – What Makes Skyline Different as a Climate Funder13:29 – What Is Trust-Based Philanthropy? Core Practices17:11 – Accountability & Critiques of Trust-Based Philanthropy19:20 – Power Dynamics & Mutual Accountability20:58 – Inside the Trust-Based Philanthropy Project23:12 – How Trust-Based Philanthropy Shows Up at Skyline25:35 – Why Trust-Based Philanthropy Is Critical for Climate Now27:55 – How Trust Builds Honesty & Problem-Solving29:32 – Shadi’s Motivation & What’s at Stake Systemically33:12 – Barriers to Trust-Based Climate Philanthropy34:21 – How Skyline Shares Control with Field Experts38:11 – Entry Points for Funders New to Trust-Based Philanthropy40:23 – Closing & Call to ActionResources MentionedSkyline FoundationTrust-Based Philanthropy ProjectThe Whitman InstituteUNFCCC (United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change)Paris AgreementThe Center for Effective Philanthropy (CEP)Connect with usShereen D’SouzaShaady SalehiJason RissmanKeep up with Invested In ClimateSign up for our NewsletterLinkedInInstagramBlueskyHave feedback or ideas for future episodes, events, or partnerships?Get in touch!

Nov 25, 2025 • 44min
Filling the Climate Finance Gap with TED's Chris Anderson's All Aboard Fund & Spring Lane's Jason Scott, Ep #124
We’re back with another episode in our series on the Missing Middle in Climate Tech in partnership with Spring Lane Capital. This is the fifth episode in the series. If you didn’t catch the others, check out InvestedinClimate.com/series and you’ll find our other episodes. If you have ideas for other series and would like to partner, get in touch through the website as well.The missing middle is a structural problem – a lack not only of available capital for climate companies, but also of the kinds of firms able to invest in them. New firms with new types of investment mandates are needed, and so I was thrilled to learn about a new fund called All Aboard. It’s a truly innovative firm developed by someone who has long had his finger on the pulse of the world’s biggest problems and boldest solutions. If you’ve ever watched a TED Talk you probably know Chris Anderson, who has led TED for the last 25 years. Chris is probably one of the best networked people on the planet, and that he decided to focus on building a new fund designed to address the missing middle in climate finance speaks volumes. Spring Lane Capital Partner and Entrepreneur in Residence Jason Scott gets credit for putting together this episode and joins us in what was a truly fascinating conversation. All Aboard reflects the type of creativity and ambition needed to fill a critical climate finance gap, and I think we all hope their model inspires you in some way. Enjoy.On today’s episode, we cover:0:03:31 – Chris explains his shift to climate investing and TED’s climate initiatives0:04:53 – Setting the stage: The funding gap in climate tech0:05:23 – Jason describes the three buckets of the "missing middle" and All Aboard fund’s mission0:09:33 – Exploring the structural capital problem in the energy transition and limitations of current financial markets0:11:16 – Chris & Jason discuss scale challenges and why current investment models fall short for climate solutions0:14:12 – Impact of collaboration in the climate investing community, with examples from Spring Lane and All Aboard0:16:57 – Chris describes All Aboard: how convening and pooling investors can solve the missing middle0:22:42 – The role of “social proof,” building momentum and ecosystems around climate ventures0:25:12 – Fundraising goals for All Aboard and the scale of opportunity in climate tech0:29:00 – Recognizing growth and potential exits for climate companies; learning from historical performance0:31:14 – How companies may become eligible for All Aboard, criteria for selection, and the practical mechanics of funding0:34:51 – The necessity of both capital and sustained support for scaling climate solutions0:36:30 – Vision for the future: If All Aboard succeeds, expectations for climate tech and financial markets0:37:54 – Other approaches and financial innovations to address the missing middle0:40:24 – The role of government and public-private partnerships in de-risking and scaling clean tech0:42:56 – Closing remarksResources MentionedAll AboardSpring Lane CapitalInvested in Climate – Missing Middle seriesTED and TED CountdownCREO SyndicateConnect with usChris AndersonJason ScottKeep up with Invested In ClimateSign up for our NewsletterLinkedInInstagramBlueskyHave feedback or ideas for future episodes, events, or partnerships?Get in touch!

Oct 30, 2025 • 41min
Insurance for the Carbon Market with Artio, Ep #123
There’s been a lot of news in recent years about the risks within carbon markets. Companies buying carbon credits to offset their emissions have struggled with the uncertainty that a carbon project might not reduce as much carbon as they project. A forest could burn or a technology could fail to work properly and the project will underdeliver. Yet, hundreds of billions of dollars are spent on carbon credits, a figure that could grow well into the trillions. Bilal Hussain is targeting this uncertainty in this market by offering insurance through his company Artio. Fun fact: Bilal actually saw the need for insurance while working at Sylvera – a carbon market sourcing and diligence platform and recent guest on our show – when he realized that investors were asking for collateral that no one had. Artio enters early – before the first tree is planted – to help more carbon reducing projects become viable. If you consider the size of the carbon market and the shortage of ways to insure new projects, the opportunity for Artio is quite significant.Bilal makes this complex space rather simple and easy to understand. We spoke about his background, the need for insurance, the risks different types of projects face, the growth he’s anticipating and much more. If you’ve long wondered about the risks of carbon projects, this conversation will shed some light on the space and one approach to unlocking its potential. On today’s episode, we cover:00:58 — Introduction to carbon market risks and Artio’s approach02:40 — Bilal’s background and transition into carbon insurance04:25 — The creation of Artio and addressing insurance needs in carbon markets07:52 — Artio’s impact on financial and climate markets, and market sizing11:13 — Early-stage risk phases and insurance for carbon projects14:05 — Types of projects Artio insures; afforestation, biochar, rock weathering15:25 — Risk assessment by project type and key differences17:14 — Artio’s market positioning, product traction, and offering insurability assessments to developers20:41 — How Artio’s workshops educate insurers and demonstrate risk modeling22:46 — Case study: How coverage and claims/settlements work in practice27:25 — Market challenges: Standing out in a crowded space, growth ambitions, and automation29:10 — Key surprises about the carbon market and importance of policy31:47 — The role of data transparency and risk assessment in broader climate domains34:59 — Other insurance use cases for managing climate transition risk38:10 — Artio’s roadmap: expanding coverage, supporting developers, and scaling upResources MentionedArtioSylveraMaya ClimateAsia Climate SummitSF Climate WeekCORSIA InsuranceConnect with usBilal HussainJason RissmanKeep up with Invested In ClimateSign up for our NewsletterLinkedInInstagramBlueskyHave feedback or ideas for future episodes, events, or partnerships?Get in touch!

Oct 17, 2025 • 45min
The $9 Trillion Adaption Opportunity with Adapt[us], Ep #122
The vast majority of my interviews have focused on innovations, investing and advocacy related to climate mitigation – that is, what we can do to cut greenhouse gases and minimize the rise in global temperatures. What we do or don’t do now, will have lasting consequences and it is climate mitigation that is driving the transformation of the global economy. So it’s not surprising that mitigation dominates climate investing. Adaptation and resilience, meanwhile, focus not on limiting or reversing climate change but rather on improving quality of life in a warmer world. Adaptation ventures receive only a small fraction of climate investments, but rising temperatures are creating tremendous demand for a new category of products. In a joint report by Boston Consulting Group (BCG) and Temasek, it’s estimated that between $500 million and $1.3 trillion could be spent annually by 2030 on technologies that help people adapt to a changed climate. That’s the opportunity Darren Clifford is targeting with a new fund called Adapt[us]. Darren has worked for two decades on new markets as a founder, consultant at McKinsey & Co, and as an angel investor, and I found his perspective on the climate adaptation market to be packed with nuance and insight. We spoke about his background, three different categories of adaptation tech, the unique challenges they face, how they’ll make the future more livable, and much more. On today’s episode, we cover:[02:45] Darren’s Background & Career Journey[06:39] Why Focus on Climate Adaptation?[08:07] Insights from Angel Investing & Supporting Founders[12:14] Why Adaptation is Underfunded; Adapt[us] Fund Overview[16:19] Challenges in Scaling Adaptation Solutions[17:31] Adapt[us] Fund: Focus & Stage, Why For-Profit[18:53] Measuring Impact & Third-Party Well-being Validation[23:10] Market Segmentation: Resilience, Repair & Recovery, Demand Adaptation[25:38] Market Size and Investment Allocation[27:50] Business Model Challenges for Adaptation Startups[30:23] Concrete Examples of Target Companies [32:59] Adapt[us] Venture Building Approach & Founder Support[36:42] The Venture Builder/Capital Model: Criteria & Structure[38:27] Norwegian Talent & Global Competitive Advantages[41:03] Building a Movement, Not Just a Fund[42:06] Short-Term Goals for Adapt[us] & Team Building[44:41] Closing RemarksResources MentionedAdapt[us]BCG x Temasek Report: The Private Equity Opportunity in Climate Adaptation and ResilienceToronto Climate WeekGIC Report: Sizing the Inevitable Investment Opportunity: Climate AdaptationWRI Study: Strengthening the Investment Case for Climate Adaptation: A Triple Dividend ApproachConnect with usDarren CliffordJason RissmanKeep up with Invested In ClimateSign up for our NewsletterLinkedInInstagramBlueskyHave feedback or ideas for future episodes, events, or partnerships?Get in touch!


