

Finance for Physicians
Daniel Wrenne
The goal at Finance for Physicians is to help you use money as a tool to live a great life, on your own terms. Daniel Wrenne, podcast host and CEO of Wrenne Financial Planning, has spent the last decade advising physicians on their personal finances. On this podcast, he and his team will share the good, the bad and the ugly of navigating personal finances while practicing medicine. They’ll help you hone in on the financial decisions that matter most and make sense of the ever-changing personal finance landscape.
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Jun 24, 2025 • 37min
The Mega Backdoor Roth Explained: Who It’s For and When It Works
Is the mega backdoor Roth the ultimate tax shelter—or just a complicated headache?
Today we are joined by Jeff Wenger to discuss this lesser-known strategy, breaking down how it works and when it makes sense, especially for high-earning physicians.
Listen in as we walk through the four key contribution “buckets” in a 401(k), the pros and cons of using after-tax dollars, and what makes the mega backdoor strategy so unique (and often underutilized).
You’ll learn who this applies to, the gotchas to watch for, and why more isn’t always better when it comes to tax strategies.
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Jun 10, 2025 • 23min
Buying vs. Renting: What We Wish More Physicians Knew
Is buying a home always the smarter move—or just what we’ve been told to do?
In this episode, Jennifer Quire joins me to reveal the real pros and cons of renting vs. buying, especially for physicians facing big financial decisions during major life transitions.
Listen in as we dig into how values, lifestyle, flexibility, and unpredictability play just as big a role as the math.
You’ll hear about the side of homeownership that people rarely talk about, what most people don’t factor into the buying vs. renting decision, and why renting isn’t the financial failure it’s often made out to be.
Transform your financial outlook today! Access our exclusive free resources for physicians and conquer financial stress. Access here.
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Sailing with Phoenix
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May 27, 2025 • 29min
Diversification Decoded: Building a Portfolio for Uncertain Times
Is diversification overrated or more important than ever in today’s market?
In this episode, I’m joined by Jackie Griggs to explain what diversification really means and why it matters now more than ever for physicians managing their own portfolios.
Listen in as we break down how mean reversion impacts market cycles and why concentrating on the S&P 500 or individual stocks (like Apple) could leave you exposed to more risk than you think.
You'll hear practical tips for building a resilient investment strategy that aligns with your long-term financial goals.
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Vanguard Real Estate Index Fund
SPDR S&P 600 SmallCap Value ETF (SLYV)
Callan Periodic Table of Investment Returns
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May 13, 2025 • 38min
Repayment Plans Under Review: What Proposed Changes Could Mean for Physicians
Are student loan repayment plans about to get completely overhauled? And what does that mean for physicians?
In this episode, I’m joined once again by student loan expert Jeff Wenger to break down the proposed federal student loan changes that could reshape how physicians manage repayment, forgiveness, and financial planning.
Listen in as we explore the potential elimination of popular IDR plans like SAVE and PAYE, the shift back to the original IBR, and the introduction of a new Repayment Assistance Plan (RAP).
We also cover proposed PSLF restrictions that could exclude residency and fellowship years, and a new $150,000 lifetime cap on federal graduate borrowing.
Transform your financial outlook today! Access our exclusive free resources for physicians and conquer financial stress. Access here.
P.S. We value your opinion! Share your thoughts and insights with us. Your feedback helps us improve and tailor our content to your needs. Click here to give us a piece of your mind.
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Apr 29, 2025 • 54min
Late Start, Big Lessons: Bill Yount’s Advice to Physicians
Have you ever felt like you’re way behind on your finances?
In this episode, I'm joined by Dr. Bill Yount, practicing ER physician and host of the Catching Up to FI podcast, who's here to share how he turned his financial life around, starting at age 50.
Listen in as we talk about real mistakes, real lessons, and the mindset shifts that helped him go from overwhelmed and burnt out to confident and financially free.
You'll learn simple steps you can take if you’re feeling behind and why it’s never too late to start catching up to financial independence.
Transform your financial outlook today! Access our exclusive free resources for physicians and conquer financial stress. Access here.
P.S. We value your opinion! Share your thoughts and insights with us. Your feedback helps us improve and tailor our content to your needs. Click here to give us a piece of your mind.
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Connect with Bill Yount on X.
Catching Up to FI Podcast
The White Coat Investor
Physician on FIRE
Open Social Security Calculator
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Apr 15, 2025 • 25min
Teaching Kids About Money: How to Raise Financially Savvy Adults
How do you teach your kids about money?
In this episode, I sit down with Heather Lovallo to explore practical, real-life strategies for teaching our children financial responsibility.
Listen in as we explore simple ways to help your children build strong financial habits—without needing to be a money expert yourself.
Plus, you'll hear about resources, including books and activities, to make learning about money both fun and impactful for children of all ages.
Transform your financial outlook today! Access our exclusive free resources for physicians and conquer financial stress. Access here.
P.S. We value your opinion! Share your thoughts and insights with us. Your feedback helps us improve and tailor our content to your needs. Click here to give us a piece of your mind.
Links
The Golden Quest: Your Journey to a Rich Life by David Delisle
Grandpa’s Fortune Fables by Will Rainey
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Apr 1, 2025 • 22min
Fool’s Gold: The Shiny Objects That Distract Us from Real Wealth
Are you chasing financial freedom or just another shiny object?
Your buddy tells you about the next big investment—crypto, rental properties, AI stocks—and it all sounds too good to miss, right?
So you dive in, and then... April Fools! You've lost it all.
In today’s episode, I’m joined again by Jackie Griggs to shed light on one of the biggest pitfalls we see in financial planning: shiny objects.
We're talking about those hot investment tips, buzzword trends, and “get-rich-quick” schemes that promise easy money with little effort.
Listen in as we break down how to spot these distractions, filter out the noise, and stay focused on your long-term goals.
Plus, we’ll explore the “why” behind the financial decisions you make to help you avoid falling for the next big hype.
Transform your financial outlook today! Access our exclusive free resources for physicians and conquer financial stress. Access here.
P.S. We value your opinion! Share your thoughts and insights with us. Your feedback helps us improve and tailor our content to your needs. Click here to give us a piece of your mind.
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Jackie Griggs: LinkedIn
VTSAX-Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund Admiral Shares
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Mar 18, 2025 • 59min
Beyond the Paycheck – Financial Planning & Wealth Strategies for Physicians
Are you ready to take the leap from residency to your first attending job, but wondering how to ensure your finances—and your family's future—are set up for success?
In today's episode, I’m sitting down with Jordan, a second-year internal medicine resident who's preparing for his first attending role.
He’s got his finances in solid shape, but he wants to make sure he and his family are set up for long-term success as he steps into this next chapter.
Listen in as we talk about how Jordan is weighing job offers, managing a $300K student loan balance, and strategizing his financial plan to align with his family’s values.
You'll hear about everything from managing Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF) to setting up a strong foundation with insurance and emergency funds.
Transform your financial outlook today! Access our exclusive free resources for physicians and conquer financial stress. Access here.
P.S. We value your opinion! Share your thoughts and insights with us. Your feedback helps us improve and tailor our content to your needs. Click here to give us a piece of your mind.
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To schedule a call with one of our awesome planners, book HERE.

Mar 4, 2025 • 45min
Disability Insurance Demystified: What Every Physician Needs to Know
Disability insurance is a crucial safety net for physicians, but many don’t realize the hidden risks that could leave them financially vulnerable.
In this episode, we welcome back Lawrence Keller, CFP®, CLU®, ChFC®, RHU®, LUTCF, a 34-year veteran in the insurance industry, to break down the complexities of disability coverage.
With the landscape of disability insurance constantly evolving, understanding your policy’s fine print is more important than ever.
Listen in as Lawrence shares tips on maximizing coverage, avoiding common pitfalls, and leveraging gender-neutral pricing to reduce costs.
Whether you're a medical student, resident, or an established practitioner, this episode will give you the knowledge to make informed decisions and protect your financial future.
Transform your financial outlook today! Access our exclusive free resources for physicians and conquer financial stress. Access here.
P.S. We value your opinion! Share your thoughts and insights with us. Your feedback helps us improve and tailor our content to your needs. Click here to give us a piece of your mind.
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Lawrence Keller: LinkedIn | Website
Ameritas
MassMutual
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Feb 18, 2025 • 43min
Burnout to Breakthrough - Interview with Dr. Ben Stone
Feeling stuck in your career?
If you're unhappy, making a change might be the key to a better life—especially as a physician.
In this episode, Dr. Ben Stone shares his journey of navigating burnout, balancing work and life, and making smart financial decisions.
He opens up about his transition to earning physician-level income, avoiding lifestyle creep, and how his perspective on patient care evolved over time.
Transform your financial outlook today! Access our exclusive free resources for physicians and conquer financial stress. Access here.
P.S. We value your opinion! Share your thoughts and insights with us. Your feedback helps us improve and tailor our content to your needs. Click here to give us a piece of your mind.
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Read about Ben’s experiences working as a U.S. Physician While Living in Europe!
Learn more about Contract Diagnostics Contract Review and Compensation Review Services.
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