Real Estate Investing for Cash Flow with Kevin Bupp

Kevin Bupp
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Apr 2, 2019 • 37min

Ep #223: The first public Opportunity Zone REIT in the USA - with Brandon Lacoff

This episode of the Real Estate Investing for Cash Flow Podcast features Brandon Lacoff, CEO and Founder of the Belpointe REIT, a public equity investment firm and the first public opportunity zone REIT in the US. Brandon is also the co-founder Belray Capital, a real estate and investment firm which Belpointe acquired in 2011. Belpointe has created a name for itself in luxury condominium developments and class A apartment communities. Belpointe also controls Belpointe Asset Management, LLC, a financial asset management firm that manages over $1 billion in tradable securities. Brandon gives us an industry leader's insight on Opportunity Zones and how it can benefit all stakeholders, from investors to developers to the communities themselves. Quotes: "The opportunity zone rules are a little bit complicated, but if used correctly, are huge upside for both investors and the right developer and real estate investors. It doesn't make a bad deal a good deal. It allows good deals to be able to raise more capital." "[Opportunity zones] also give them the ability to get the tax benefit but also invest in communities that need the investment, which some people call impact investing. We also call it do good while doing good and giving back to other communities that were passed by in the last ten to twenty years for investment dollars." "The biggest risk is over-leveraging, which we're taking a more conservative approach when it comes to leveraging especially when the real estate stabilized." "The thing that we do to manage that risk is we are underwriting our deals ourselves. Even though we are going to be co-investing with other developers around the country, we underwrite every deal as if we were the developer and construction managers in-house." "We don't trend rents for two years from now when the building is done. We say the building was built today, what would be the yields, what would be return on that building and how long will it take to lease up." Discussed in this Episode: 08:52 Market selection: developing vs purchasing existing product 11:17 Focusing the business on opportunity zones 15:27 Challenges in setting up the REIT vehicle 23:00 Identifying and mitigating risk 34:17 Brandon's advice and golden nuggets Job Opportunities with my Team: Click Here Recommended Resources: Check out our company and our partnership opportunities by visiting SunriseCapitalInvestors.com Would you like to partner with us on future MHP deals, call 844-CASH-FLW to learn more or click here to schedule a time on our calendar. Grab a free copy of our book "The 21 Biggest Mistakes Investors Make When Purchasing their First Mobile Home Park…and how to avoid them click here Review and Subscribe
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Mar 26, 2019 • 48min

Ep #222: A Living Legend Shares His Investment Secrets - with Welcome Wilson

Kevin Bupp welcomes you to another episode of the Real Estate Investing for Cash Flow Podcast with real estate investment veteran Welcome Wilson, who shares anecdotes rooted in incredibly rich personal experience during his 6 decades in real estate development. Welcome is the founder and chairman of the Board of Welcome Group, a privately held real estate development firm that owns 90 manufacturing and industrial facilities comprising 4 million square feet of space in Texas. He has developed 8,000 home sites in 4 counties. He has also developed apartments, retail centers, office buildings, and a hotel. Quotes: "Never go against your gut instinct because the expert tells you something like an engineer or an architect and then in your gut you know he's wrong. Go with your gut because your gut knows more about it than he does." "To succeed in business, you need to have guts and determination. Guts and determination. When he said guts, he didn't mean the guts to get into a fight. He meant the guts to make a pitch to somebody important that's highly in your favor and be able to keep a straight face and look him in the eye and be sincere." "Don't let success go to your head. The point is, in a good economy, everything works. Everything works. And you're not invincible. And when the economy turns, practically nothing works and you can't assume that everything is going to work out. You have to prepare for the worst because it's coming." "One rule that I always had is, if you have five and part of the things to do today, start with the most difficult one first. Do the most difficult one first." "Having the right partners and the right friends are everything in business. You need to give your partners credit. And by the way, don't ever issue an ultimatum especially to your spouse. Ultimatums do not work." Discussed in this Episode: 10:38 Importance of a mentor 17:08 Developing Houston 27:08 Role in the Astrodome 32:23 Industrial vs residential 41:04 The importance of friends and family Job Opportunities with my Team: Click Here Recommended Resources: Check out our company and our partnership opportunities by visiting SunriseCapitalInvestors.com Would you like to partner with us on future MHP deals, call 844-CASH-FLW to learn more or click here to schedule a time on our calendar. Grab a free copy of our book "The 21 Biggest Mistakes Investors Make When Purchasing their First Mobile Home Park…and how to avoid them click here Review and Subscribe
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Mar 19, 2019 • 22min

Ep #221: Leveraging Technology To Create an Amazing Resident Experience & Increase Retention Rates - with LiveBixby.co

In this week's episode of the Real Estate Investment for Cash Flow podcast, Kevin brings in Derek Phillips, business development manager of Bixby. Bixby is a team of technologists that work with real estate professionals to improve residential experience. It also functions as an app with cloud based tools and services. Derek explains what Bixby is all about and why real estate owners and managers should look into it. Kevin and Derek dive into Bixby's features, case scenarios that benefitted clients and the types of markets the company is invested in at the moment. Derek also talks about Bixby's future, moving forward. Quotes: "Really the idea is that anything your residents need to be able to do in their home, they should be able to do in one place." "We need to integrate with the accounting, we don't want to create additional work for any management, we want to make their lives easier." "The idea Bixby is really that, we should be able to serve especially in the multi-family space, all asset classes and help it in some way." "I think it [Bixby] can really be a major differentiator for your residents' experience in your building, help with retention and help with attraction as well." "Everything we built has been a direct request of the client." Discussed in this Episode: What is Bixby? How was it started? Derek provides some examples on how clients benefitted from utilizing Bixby Bixby's pricing Other extra features that Bixby offers What markets is Bixby involved in today? Job Opportunities with my Team: Click Here Recommended Resources: Check out our company and our partnership opportunities by visiting SunriseCapitalInvestors.com Would you like to partner with us on future MHP deals, call 844-CASH-FLW to learn more or click here to schedule a time on our calendar. Grab a free copy of our book "The 21 Biggest Mistakes Investors Make When Purchasing their First Mobile Home Park…and how to avoid them click here Review and Subscribe
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Mar 12, 2019 • 50min

Ep #220: The Long Road to Multifamily Syndication Success-- with Vinney Chopra

This episode of the Real Estate Investment for Cash Flow podcast features Vinney "Smiles" Chopra, a successful multi-family syndicator, fundraising consultant and motivational speaker. Vinney shares his inspirational story on how he came to find his calling which eventually led him to move to the United States with only 7$ to his name. He goes on to share his business experience, pitfalls, successes which may inspire any listener to put in the work, and maybe follow Vinney's example in the real estate industry. Kevin and Vinney discuss the advantages of multifamily home investments, emerging markets and management perspectives. Vinney also gives practical tips and tricks on how to thrive in the business that he himself employs in his real estate career. Quotes: "To be better, you really got to have the drive that nothing can stop you." "You start dreaming about it, you start thinking about it, you want to learn more and more and that's what I did." "Nowadays, we feel like we can overcome everything, and we could do overnight success, I just want the audience to know to please hang in there, even if you had success or no success but you got to get a coach or a mentor and do get into it." "It's a team sport. You can't do it alone, you've got to find some good like-minded persons." "The key thing is to be the best detective ever, to find the information, before the broker knows about it, so that's how I've been able to purchase these properties." Discussed in this Episode: How Vinney got into the world of syndication Vinney advises on business partnerships Kevin and Vinney discuss emerging markets Self management vs Outsourcing Job Opportunities with my Team: Click Here Recommended Resources: Check out our company and our partnership opportunities by visiting SunriseCapitalInvestors.com Would you like to partner with us on future MHP deals, call 844-CASH-FLW to learn more or click here to schedule a time on our calendar. Grab a free copy of our book "The 21 Biggest Mistakes Investors Make When Purchasing their First Mobile Home Park…and how to avoid them click here Review and Subscribe
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Mar 5, 2019 • 41min

Ep #219: Transition from Traditional Career to RE Investor -- with Victor Menasce

Today's episode of The Real Estate Investing for Cash Flow Podcast features real estate investment expert and serial entrepreneur, Victor Menasce. Victor held senior roles at several firms in the high tech industry for 25 years before deciding to become full time with real estate 9 years ago. He has since touched on ground up RV communities, multi-family and residential developments, and much more. Today he sheds light on a particularly unglamorous side of the business: rough patches and how he was able to weather them out to still achieve success. Quotes: "I wasted a lot of time and probably wasted a lot of money basically going back and entering that business from the bottom of the business as opposed to coming into that business from the top of the business." "One of the perspectives that I always take when it comes to real estate projects is to make sure that those projects have enough margin to be resilient." "The key in the success for any active business is the team." "You want to make sure that if there is strong demand that there is some kind of constraint on the supply side." "The number one mistake I see a lot if investors make is that they are starting projects that are too small and one of the consequences of that is that you can't afford the skills that you need to properly fill out your team." Highlights: [05:27] Victor's challenging entry to real estate [12:45] Case study: a deal that didn't go as planned [26:31] Details on taking over the deal [33:31] How to report good and bad news to investors [35:51] Overview commentary on the market Job Opportunities with my Team: Click Here Recommended Resources: Check out our company and our partnership opportunities by visiting SunriseCapitalInvestors.com Would you like to partner with us on future MHP deals, call 844-CASH-FLW to learn more or click here to schedule a time on our calendar. Grab a free copy of our book "The 21 Biggest Mistakes Investors Make When Purchasing their First Mobile Home Park…and how to avoid them click here Review and Subscribe
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Feb 26, 2019 • 52min

Ep #218: Delegate to Elevate your Multifamily Syndicate -- with Dan Hanford

In this episode of Real Estate for Investing Cash Flow Podcast, Kevin Bupp invites Dan Hanford: real estate investment expert and principal at Hanford Capital, a multifamily real estate investing and syndication firm. He is also the founder the Multifamily Investor Nation which has more than 34 groups and more than 2,000 members all over the world. In addition to that, Dan is also the president and founder of five specialty medical clinics in South Carolina. Dan shares his entry point in the multifamily syndication space, how he manages his time juggling real estate and a successful medical practice, delegating work to his all-star team, and so much more--all at the young age of 36 years old. Quotes: "I think that one of the things I learned earlier on is that art of delegation." "I'm a big believer that if you can't measure something then it's very hard to manage it." "I look at syndication, the syndication space, and go, 'If you have a background in business and you can actually manage large budgets, then it's a pretty easy transition.'" "I practice two things: I make sure I have a hard day's work and a clear conscience." "I cannot control what happens to the market in the next few years, but I can tell you this: if something does happen in the market, I would rather my money be in multifamily or some form of real estate before I would want it in the stock market or mutual funds or bonds or things like that." Highlights: [08:38] How Dan let go of day-to-day management of his chiropractor practice [10:19] Dan's strategic steps to ensure a solid entry to the multifamily real estate space [20:20] Biggest challenges starting out and creating ancillary income streams [37:34] Short to medium term predictions and anxieties about the business [47:15] Advice Dan would give himself when he was starting out Job Opportunities with my Team: Click Here Recommended Resources: Check out our company and our partnership opportunities by visiting SunriseCapitalInvestors.com Would you like to partner with us on future MHP deals, call 844-CASH-FLW to learn more or click here to schedule a time on our calendar. Grab a free copy of our book "The 21 Biggest Mistakes Investors Make When Purchasing their First Mobile Home Park…and how to avoid them click here Xactimate Yardi Matrix WeAreApartments.org Hanford Capital's Website Review and Subscribe
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Feb 19, 2019 • 52min

Ep #217: Simplified Properties -- with Sean Katona

This episode of the Real Estate Investing for Cashflow Podcast features real estate investment expert Sean Katona, owner of Simplified Properties. Sean is an expert investor, landlord and a national speaker. His business focuses on the retail sector, revitalizing shopping centers and apartments for maximum returns. Kevin and Sean dive into ways to stabilize property post acquisition and improve the community by increasing foot traffic in businesses. Sean also also talks about the change in retail and the importance of differentiating the uses and physical presence of retail businesses. Quotes: "Upon closing we are immediately able to execute a couple of leases and so you just hit the ground running with momentum and that makes your bankers and investor partners feel good." "Right out of the gate, we improve the landscaping. We reseal and restripe the parking lot. We upgrade some lighting into LEDs. We remove some old signage. When you see that happening in a community, with a building that's maybe been tired or forgotten, people take notice. The tenants see that.. And so it helps be able to tell the story of new managers or new owners here who want to improve the center." "Once we have some of those things to showcase, we start having conversations with the tenant." "Leaving the house is a true adventure and there has to be some serious value in that at the end of this. We get a lot of food delivered but we still go out to eat a lot." "What I'm trying to do is support the heck out of my brokers and I do a lot of marketing." Highlights: [5:33] Sean's background in Corporate America and his start on Real Estate[8:41] Why Sean choose to focus on the retail asset class[11:00] Sean's first "slam dunk" deal [18:50] What are triple net leases?[23:00] Kevin and Sean discuss changes in the retail business landscape [27:26] Benefits of bringing in brokers[33:20] How to choose the proper broker?[39:05] Sean's plans for the future Job Opportunities with my Team: Click Here Recommended Resources: Check out our company and our partnership opportunities by visiting SunriseCapitalInvestors.com Would you like to partner with us on future MHP deals, call 844-CASH-FLW to learn more or click here to schedule a time on our calendar. Grab a free copy of our book "The 21 Biggest Mistakes Investors Make When Purchasing their First Mobile Home Park…and how to avoid them click here Visit Simplified Property's Website Review and Subscribe
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Feb 12, 2019 • 51min

Ep #216: Avid Realty Partners -- with Craig Berger

Today's show features Craig Berger, Founder and CEO of Avid Realty Partners, a commercial realty firm focused on hotel and multi-family apartment assets. Craig speaks about how he scaled up his company, the challenges he faced along the way, and the successes he enjoyed with his business model.Quotes: "It's a less efficient market. It's harder to sell a hotel asset than it is a multi-family asset." "We were on our downside scenarios. If we lose revenues 30%, how long will our cash last before we're in trouble? If revenues drop 20%, how long does our cash last before we're in trouble?" "A lot of people don't want to own anymore so the underlying trends and demographics still are very favorably for the multi-family sector. But the prices continue to make me nervous." "First of all, I'd say, find some good mentors. That's always important. Find some talented people to work with that are willing to work with you." "Find your passion. Find your inspiration and reach for the stars. You gotta go for it." "Have cash on hand. Protect yourself. Be willing to make mistakes but hopefully not fatal ones. And make sure you're measuring the downside, the recession scenario, and how long you're going to be able to survive if business shrinks 5%, 10%, 15% from current levels." "Take some Excel classes. Try to get a basic model out for your revenues and expenses. If revenues shrink 10%, expenses don't." Discussed in this Episode: Introduction to Craig Berger and his background Evolution of Craig's business How Craig Hedges against risk Deals that didn't go as planned Advice that Craig would give himself 4 years ago Job Opportunities with my Team: Click Here Recommended Resources: Check out our company and our partnership opportunities by visiting SunriseCapitalInvestors.com Would you like to partner with us on future MHP deals, call 844-CASH-FLW to learn more or click here to schedule a time on our calendar. Grab a free copy of our book "The 21 Biggest Mistakes Investors Make When Purchasing their First Mobile Home Park…and how to avoid them click here Visit Avid Realty Partner's Website Review and Subscribe
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Feb 5, 2019 • 43min

Ep #215: Equialt -- with Bryan Davison

This Episode of The Real Estate Investing for Cash Flow Podcast features Bryan Davison of EquiAlt; a specialized investment management firm. Bryan gives some valuable insights on running a real estate business. He dives into the advantages of the no leverage approach to business, the culture at EquiAlt and the types of investments and investors he deals with. Kevin and Brian's discussion provides valuable tips and insights on hiring, choosing asset classes, property management and even provides inspiration based from personal experiences, from dealing with the recession to current market conditions. --------------- Quotes: "Pain is one of the greatest teachers in life." "I wasn't gonna believe the banks, I wasn't gonna believe Wall Street anymore and I wanted to do everything I could to dissociate myself personally and the money business from ever needing Wall Street bank money again." "All my investors do not have a direct interest in the investment, so that allows me complete management discretion.. If that doesn't work for someone, it doesn't work for me either." "I really hire for talent and personality, not exactly the specific job skill set." "They like EquiAlt products simply because they see us as more stable and we can be a little more transparent with them." "When I buy something, I plan on having it for a while." Discussed In This Episode: How Kevin & Brian bounced back after the housing crash Bryan's business structure Asset classes and how Bryan makes his decisions Bryan discusses the markets he is in Bryan explains the type of investors he works with Bryan's take on Property Management How the economy has healed Job Opportunities with my Team: Click Here Recommended Resources: Check out our company and our partnership opportunities by visiting SunriseCapitalInvestors.com Would you like to partner with us on future MHP deals, call 844-CASH-FLW to learn more or click here to schedule a time on our calendar. Grab a free copy of our book "The 21 Biggest Mistakes Investors Make When Purchasing their First Mobile Home Park…and how to avoid them click here Visit EquiAlt's Website Review and Subscribe
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Jan 29, 2019 • 46min

Ep #214: Blue Lake Capital -- with Ellie Perlman

This episode of the REIFCF podcast features real estate investment expert, Ellie Perlman, who is the founder and CEO of Blue Lake Capital, a firm that specializes on multifamily properties. She also runs a podcast and a blog that focuses on passive investing. Kevin and Ellie discuss valuable data and tips for anyone looking to invest or further a career in real estate. They dive into the current market conditions and creative practices and relate those with their own experiences that could give the listener fresh insights into real estate and investment. QUOTES: "The better syndicators have the capacity and the willingness to sit down with you and explain concepts." "Once I understood that real estate investing was my path, then that was it. And for me it was moving forward in full speed." "I just had this desire of being the general of my own path. I wanted to create something that [my kids can inherit] and build a legacy." "For a market to be a solid market, it has to have a job growth, population growth and rent growth and those are all connected." "Seeing the prices that other companies pay for real estate and that scares me because it's definitely going to affect the market going forward and it affects it already. I'm losing deals to companies that bid higher than me and I mean they're either very comfortable with a lot lower returns but mainly they're being a little too optimistic than they should be." "The vast majority of passive investors don't look at the exit cap rate and they don't ask about it." "You see other folks who got very nice marketing materials but if you really dig into how they they're arriving at those overall projections, or the IRR's that they're stating, you gotta understand the components that make that up. And the exit cap is one of the primary components that ultimately determine what the range looks like and what it might look like for the investor. " "Building credibility is an art. You need to follow up with them for every deal that you're looking into and explain to them why a certain deal didn't work out. " HIGHLIGHTS 08:06 Overview of Ellie started her career in law and transitioned to real estate before 2007 11:00 Kevin and Ellie talk about the knowledge that can be learned from being a passive investor. 13:40 The advantages of being on the general partnership side and the relationship of lender and investor. 15:40 Ellie's transitions between job positions and the climactic shift in her career 18:20 Talk on ways to learn how to handle your own and other people's money. 20:29 Ellie explains why she chose states where she invested in and what factored into her decisions. 22:45 Discussion on new and current opportunities and their IRR's. 30:06 The current market and what is exciting and scary about it. 32:10 Kevin and Ellie talk about cap rates and how it factors into investments. 37:10 Ellie discusses deal sourcing and advises inexperienced people on how to potentially start out in real estate. Job Opportunities with my Team: Click Here Recommended Resources: Check out our company and our partnership opportunities by visiting SunriseCapitalInvestors.com Would you like to partner with us on future MHP deals, call 844-CASH-FLW to learn more or click here to schedule a time on our calendar. Grab a free copy of our book "The 21 Biggest Mistakes Investors Make When Purchasing their First Mobile Home Park…and how to avoid them click here Visit Blue Lake Capital's Website Review and Subscribe

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