

The Burn Bag Podcast
Burn Bag Media
We’re here to redefine how scholars and policymakers approach national security and foreign policy. Join us, as we make sense of a world in crisis.
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Dec 28, 2020 • 42min
Sources and Methods: Recruiting Spies and Staying Left of Boom with Former CIA Operations Officer Daniel Hoffman
In the latest installment of The Burn Bag Podcast, A'ndre and Ryan sit down with former CIA Senior Clandestine Services Officer Daniel Hoffman for a wide-ranging discussion drawing upon his experience and expertise as an operations officer and a CIA Chief of Station. Hoffman digs into what it means to hire spies and covers why human intelligence is still vitally important and reliable to the United States, and how that information is processed. Hoffman, widely considered to be a leading Russia expert, gives us his take on Putin's Russia, discussing the recent revelations on the poisoning of a leading Russian opposition leader and how Putin aims to undermine the United States. Hoffman also talks about the importance of counterintelligence, and reacts to the recent news of a Chinese spy infiltrating certain political circles in the United States, that included the targeting of U.S. Congressman Eric Swalwell, a member of the House Intelligence Committee.

Dec 25, 2020 • 22min
What in the World? (12/25/20)
In this week's episode, A’ndre and Ryan dig into Russia's SolarWinds hacking with Javed Ali. They discuss what happened, the implications, and potential responses by the United States. The conversation concludes with Javed's take on the "dual-hatted" leadership of CYBERCOM and the NSA and why it may be beneficial to split the two. Today's conversation is based on Javed's recent op-ed in Defense One and quotes from Mother Jones, WaPo, and ABC news.

Dec 21, 2020 • 51min
"Intelligence is Weird": Strategic Innovation in the Community with Former PDDNI Sue Gordon
In this episode of The Burn Bag Podcast, A'ndre and Ryan interview former Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence Sue Gordon, about her long and distinguished career in the CIA and as a leader in the Intelligence Community, and her perspectives on a range of issues. As PDDNI, Gordon was essentially the second-highest official leading the Intelligence Community, and she gives us her outlook on the IC's relationship with the President of the United States -- drawing directly from her own experiences in briefing five of our last six presidents. Gordon also discusses her views on innovation in the IC, detailing her role in the establishment of In-Q-Tel and the development of technology in the CIA. We also spoke to Sue about her departure from public service last year, whether she'd return to public service in the future, and her thoughts on diversity in the IC. Lastly, Gordon talks a bit about counterintelligence, and the threats posed in that realm by China and Russia, especially given recent circumstances.

Dec 18, 2020 • 30min
What in the World? (12/18/20)
In this week's episode, A'ndre and Ryan talk about Russia's hacking of the U.S. government and the kidnapping of Nigerian schoolboys by Boko Haram. They also provide an update on the poisoning of Russian opposition politician Alexei Navalny and discuss U.S. recognition of Morocco's sovereignty over Western Sahara.

Dec 14, 2020 • 49min
All Hail the King? Thai Protests and Police Action with Professor Allen Hicken
In this episode, we spoke with Professor Allen Hicken, professor of Political Science at the University of Michigan, about the protests in Thailand. Professor Hicken discusses the deep polarization of Thailand due, in part, to the ongoing protests of the past decade, the demands for reform of the Thai monarchy, and the dissolution of the Future Forward Party (FFP). Lastly, we speak about the future of Thailand, the influence of technology on the movement, and Professor Hicken’s prediction on how the Thai government and monarchy will respond to the youth’s demands.

Dec 11, 2020 • 31min
What in the World? (12/11/20)
In this week's episode, A'ndre and Ryan discuss President-elect Biden's announcement of General (Ret.) Lloyd Austin as SecDef nominee, US arms sales to the UAE, and the mass protests in India. They also talk to Javed Ali about Iran's potential responses to the killing of its lead nuclear scientist and what this may mean for the US and its allies. Our conversation with Javed is based on his recent op-ed in The Hill.

Dec 8, 2020 • 49min
Crisis in Ethiopia: The Conflict in Tigray with Professor Terrence Lyons
In this special episode, we spoke with Terrence Lyons, Associate Professor of Conflict Resolution at George Mason University, about the ongoing conflict in Ethiopia. Professor Lyons discusses how the remnants of the Ethiopian Civil War led to political reforms initiated in 2018 by Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed, creating an opening for peace, but also an opportunity for divisive ethnic politics to re-emerge. Professor Lyons also discusses the humanitarian crisis and the international community's response to Addis Ababa's crackdown. We close the conversation by looking to the future of Ethiopia and how individuals can keep up with the unfolding conflict. For more information on the conflict, check out this article: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/15/world/africa/ethiopia-abiy-tigray.html

Dec 7, 2020 • 49min
Oslo to Abraham: The United States and the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict Brookings Senior Fellow Bruce Riedel
We talk with Bruce Riedel, Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution, about the Israel- Palestine conflict and broader geopolitics within the Middle East. Riedel draws on his experience as part of President Clinton's peace process team, and specifically talks about what he saw at the 2000 Camp David Summit, and why he did not have confidence in the summit's proceedings, which ultimately failed. Riedel also provides his outlook on the nature of the conflict overall, in addition to his take on the recent normalization agreements between Israel and the UAE, Sudan, and whether an Israel-Saudi Arabia normalization is on the horizon. Lastly, we get some insights on what the Biden Administration portends for these conflicts and situations.

Dec 4, 2020 • 30min
What in the World? (12/04/20)
In this week's episode, A'ndre and Ryan discuss potential Biden Administration nominees, tensions between China and Australia, and the death of Iran's top nuclear scientist. They also cover Israel's political turmoil and provide an update on the situation in Ethiopia.

Nov 30, 2020 • 1h 1min
The War on the Uyghurs: China's Cultural Genocide with Professor Sean Roberts
In this episode, we talk with Professor Sean Roberts about the Uyghur people and their relations with China. Professor Roberts discusses the history of the Uyghurs, how China came to view them as a threat, and what the international community can do to stop this cultural genocide. Our conversation is based on Professor Roberts' new book, The War on the Uyghurs: China's Internal Campaign against a Muslim Minority.


