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Business of Drinks
Welcome to the Business of Drinks, where we go behind the bottle, interviewing beverage innovators and icons about how they built their businesses.
We take a data-driven approach, analyzing the brands, products, and categories that get consumers excited. And we cover many drinks categories — from wine, beer, and spirits to non-alcohol drinks — as well as THC, adaptogen, and functional beverages.
So whether you’re working in drinks — or just interested in the stories behind your favorite brands — join us each week as we explore how companies are unlocking growth at every stage in the game.
We take a data-driven approach, analyzing the brands, products, and categories that get consumers excited. And we cover many drinks categories — from wine, beer, and spirits to non-alcohol drinks — as well as THC, adaptogen, and functional beverages.
So whether you’re working in drinks — or just interested in the stories behind your favorite brands — join us each week as we explore how companies are unlocking growth at every stage in the game.
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Mar 5, 2025 • 1h
54: Scaling a Non-Alcoholic RTD Brand with Mocktail Club’s Pauline Idogho - Business of Drinks
The non-alcoholic cocktail space is booming, and Mocktail Club is one of the brands leading the charge. Founded by Pauline Idogho, Mocktail Club is redefining the way people experience sophisticated, alcohol-free drinks. Since launching in 2019, the brand has expanded into 1,300 retail locations, including Whole Foods, Sprouts, Kings, and Target, and is on track to produce 2 million cans this year.Pauline didn’t come from the drinks world — her background is in investment banking and private equity, where she closed some $10 billion in transactions before pivoting to entrepreneurship. That financial acumen has fueled Mocktail Club’s smart growth strategy, taking the brand from small-batch startup to a nationally recognized player in the rapidly expanding non-alcoholic beverage market.In this episode, Pauline shares: How a closing dinner while pregnant sparked the idea for Mocktail Club — and why she knew the market was underserved. Why she chose globally inspired flavors with ingredients like shrub bases, teas, and spices instead of mimicking classic cocktails. Her strategy for breaking into Whole Foods, scaling her retail footprint, and now moving into alcohol distribution channels. How she built Mocktail Club as a mission-driven brand, donating 1% of sales to Water for People and committing to sustainability. What it takes to fundraise successfully in the drinks industry, including how she secured investment from the incubator Pronghorn. Why the non-alc consumer is a cross-category buyer, and how retailers are finally recognizing this growing segment.Last Call:Every month, another celebrity launches a non-alc brand. But does it really work? In Last Call, we break down a Punch article by Hannah Walhout that asks: Are you even famous if you don’t have a non-alc drink line?We debate:- Wellness or virtue signaling? – Are celebrities jumping into non-alc for health reasons—or just to boost their luxury image?- Social media marketing – A photo of Bella Hadid in Target holding Kin Euphorics works…but does it build long-term brand loyalty?- Authenticity vs. cash grab – Some celebs have stakes in both alcoholic and non-alcoholic brands. Does that send mixed messages?Don’t miss our next episode, dropping on March 12.For the latest updates, follow us:Business of Drinks:LinkedInInstagram @bizofdrinksErica Duecy, co-host:Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry’s most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.LinkedInInstagram @ericaduecyScott Rosenbaum, co-host:Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.LinkedInCaroline Lamb, contributor:Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.LinkedInInstagram @borkalineSPONSOR: SWIG Partners is exclusively offering $100 off their supplier-distributor matchmaking fee when you mention the Business of Drinks podcast, or inquire via this link: https://www.swigpartners.com/businessofdrinksIf you enjoyed today’s conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you’re listening, and don’t forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach new listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

Feb 26, 2025 • 1h 15min
53: How Quintaliza is Breaking New Ground in Tequila with Founder Michael Winters - Business of Drinks
In this episode of Business of Drinks, we’re diving into a new-to-world tequila product that’s shaking up the industry: Quintaliza, the world’s first coffee-aged tequila. Founder and CEO Michael Winters joins us to discuss how he took an unconventional idea — aging tequila in coffee-seasoned barrels — and turned it into a fast-growing brand that’s gaining traction with both consumers and industry insiders.Michael isn’t just another spirits industry veteran launching an agave brand — he’s a serial entrepreneur who built Quintaliza from the ground up, first in his own kitchen and then with a world-class distillery in Jalisco. The brand has already won Wine & Spirits Wholesalers of America’s “Brand Battle” competition in 2024, and with a deep-not-wide distribution strategy, it’s set to sell 12,000 bottles in 2025 across four key markets: Florida, New Jersey, Tennessee, and South Carolina.In this episode, Michael shares:- The origins of Quintaliza – How his background in restaurants, branding, and coffee shops led to the creation of the world’s first coffee-aged tequila.- Building a brand from scratch – Why he didn’t take the easy route of private labeling and instead developed a proprietary aging process in ex-bourbon and coffee-seasoned barrels.- Going deep, not wide – Why he turned down multi-state distribution deals in favor of a strategic approach focused on building strong relationships in a few key markets.- Winning over distributors and bartenders – The tactics he’s using to build awareness and pull-through in a competitive spirits category.- The role of storytelling in brand-building – How Michael’s authenticity and hands-on leadership help differentiate Quintaliza in a crowded tequila space.- Scaling smartly – Insights on when (and how) to expand without overextending resources or losing brand momentum.Last Call:The wine industry keeps saying “make wine more accessible” for younger consumers. But what if that’s not what they want? Contributor Caroline Lamb brings on Eater’s Southeast Regional Editor Henna Bakshi to discuss how private wine clubs in Atlanta are thriving with millennial members — who are paying up to $8K+ per year to join. Find out more about this emerging trend.Don’t miss our next episode, dropping on March 5.For the latest updates, follow us:Business of Drinks:LinkedInInstagram @bizofdrinksErica Duecy, co-host:Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry’s most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.LinkedInInstagram @ericaduecyScott Rosenbaum, co-host:Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as Head of Search, North America at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.LinkedInCaroline Lamb, contributor:Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.LinkedInInstagram @borkalineIf you enjoyed today’s conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you’re listening, and don’t forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach new listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

Feb 19, 2025 • 1h 8min
52: Legal Essentials for Drinks Brands in 2025 with Attorney Ryan Malkin - Business of Drinks
In this episode, Ryan Malkin, principal attorney at Malkin Law, returns to Business of Drinks to answer listener questions on essential legal topics, like: How far can you go with functional claims? Who needs D&O insurance? What’s happening with DTC spirits shipping? We discuss everything from THC beverages and functional ingredients to distribution contracts and risk management. With the beverage industry seeing rapid innovation, especially in functional and cannabis-infused drinks, Ryan’s insights are invaluable for ensuring your brand stays compliant and competitive in 2025.In this episode, Ryan shares:- Functional ingredients and health claims – Learn why alcohol and THC brands should avoid making direct health claims about ingredients like ginger, probiotics, or adaptogens to prevent lawsuits — and how to communicate ingredient benefits without crossing legal lines.- The evolution of THC beverages – Ryan discusses the booming category, and explains the legal nuances between hemp-derived and marijuana-derived THC products and how brands can stay compliant as regulations evolve.- FDA vs. TTB oversight – Ryan clarifies when brands need to engage with the FDA (non-alc and functional ingredients) versus the TTB (alcohol formulations and labeling), and how to work with each agency.- Key contract considerations – From co-packing agreements to distribution contracts, Ryan highlights why clear legal contracts are your first line of defense, ensuring accountability when things go wrong and protecting founders and directors from litigation.- Emerging legal issues – Ryan discusses new regulations on standards of fill, direct-to-consumer shipping for craft distilleries, and why THC brands are creating their own distribution models instead of relying on big distributors.Last Call: Caroline Lamb interviews wine influencer Pilar Brito (@BarPilarr). Pilar's rapid rise to 140K+ followers on Instagram and TikTok in just over a year(!!) offers valuable lessons for wine brands looking to leverage influencer marketing. Pilar shares insights on creating engaging content, building community, and forming authentic partnerships.Don’t miss our next episode, dropping on 2/26.For the latest updates, follow us:Business of Drinks:LinkedInInstagram @bizofdrinksErica Duecy, co-host:Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry’s most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.LinkedInInstagram @ericaduecyScott Rosenbaum, co-host:Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.LinkedInCaroline Lamb, contributor:Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.LinkedInInstagram @borkalineIf you enjoyed today’s conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you’re listening, and don’t forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach new listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

Feb 12, 2025 • 1h 16min
51: How NON Became a Globally Recognized Wine Alternative with Aaron Trotman - Business of Drinks
This is an essential episode for any drinks brand founder looking to break through the noise and build something truly disruptive. Contributor Caroline Lamb sits down with Aaron Trotman, founder of NON, who has not only pioneered the non-alcoholic wine alternative category — he’s redefining what premium non-alcoholic beverages can be. With a chef-driven approach, meticulous ingredient sourcing, and a relentless focus on quality, NON has earned a place on the menus of the world’s top restaurants and is now scaling globally.In this episode, Aaron shares:Creating a new category – How NON was inspired by fine dining NA pairings and built with a culinary mindset, not as a wine mimic but as an entirely new premium experience.How to win over sommeliers – The strategy behind launching NON directly into top-tier restaurants before expanding into retail.Breaking into the U.S. market – The challenges and advantages of setting up NON as its own importer and signing a major distribution deal with Southern Glazer’s.Why transparency matters – Aaron’s commitment to using real, traceable ingredients, and how this transparency has helped build credibility in the natural wine space.Bootstrapping, then scaling – NON started as a self-funded project before raising investment capital to scale production to more than 500,000 bottles a year.Staying premium in a crowded category – NON refuses to chase volume at the expense of brand integrity, avoiding mass retail and instead focusing on independent and regional chains.Last Call:In this week’s Last Call segment, co-hosts Scott Rosenbaum and Erica Duecy discuss new products on their radar, from non-alcoholic innovators like Van Sha and Winderton Citrus Aperitivo to unexpected entrants like Sango African Agave, an Tequila-like spirit from South Africa and Cheramie Rum, a new agricole-style cane spirit made in Louisiana.Don’t miss our next episode, dropping on 2/19.For the latest updates, follow us:Business of Drinks:LinkedInInstagram @bizofdrinksErica Duecy, co-host:Erica Duecy is founder and co-host ofBusiness of Drinks and one of the drinks industry’s most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm ofBusiness of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.LinkedInInstagram @ericaduecyScott Rosenbaum, co-host:Scott Rosenbaum is co-host ofBusiness of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.LinkedInCaroline Lamb, contributor:Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor atBusiness of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.LinkedInInstagram @borkalineIf you enjoyed the conversation, followBusiness of Drinks wherever you’re listening, and don’t forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach more listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

Feb 5, 2025 • 1h 1min
50: Silver Oak CEO David Duncan On Building a Cult Wine Brand - Business of Drinks
In the latest episode of Business of Drinks, we sit down with David Duncan, second-generation proprietor and CEO of Silver Oak, one of Napa’s most iconic and beloved wine brands. While many wine businesses have struggled, Silver Oak remains a category leader — balancing legacy with innovation, exclusivity with accessibility, and deep tradition with modern engagement.
David shares how Silver Oak has grown its devoted following, cultivated multigenerational brand loyalty, and stayed relevant across evolving consumer preferences. Whether you're building a new beverage brand or strengthening an existing one, this conversation is filled with valuable insights on staying power, strategic growth, and community-building.
In this episode, David shares:
The power of trust and consistency – How Silver Oak has maintained a devoted customer base for more than 50 years by delivering a reliably high-quality product and never chasing trends.
Cultivating brand loyalty through experience – From release-day celebrations that draw hundreds of superfans to exclusive partnerships with fashion designers and luxury luggage brands, Silver Oak has mastered the art of cross-category collaboration.
The intersection of exclusivity and accessibility – How Silver Oak sells $1,000 limited-edition wine luggage while also maintaining a connected, engaged presence in social media spaces.
How to successfully engage multiple generations – With 40% of its consumers now Gen X, followed by Boomers and Millennials, Silver Oak tailors its messaging and experiences to different audiences while remaining true to its core brand identity.
Social media as a community-building tool – Silver Oak’s Bottle Stories blog and interactive approach to social media create deep emotional connections with consumers, making them feel like part of the brand’s extended family.
How to build a business with staying power – David’s best advice for drinks entrepreneurs, including why patience, brand authenticity, and long-term vision matter more than short-term pivots.
Last Call:
With the U.S. Surgeon General’s new advisory warning linking alcohol consumption to cancer risk, many in the industry are asking: Is this a turning point for beverage alcohol? Erica and Scott unpack the implications of this advisory — and discuss why the sky is NOT falling for the alcohol industry.
Don’t miss our next episode, dropping on February 12.
For the latest updates, follow us:
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Erica Duecy, co-host:Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry’s most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.
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Scott Rosenbaum, co-host:Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.
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Caroline Lamb, contributor:Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.
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Instagram @borkaline
If you enjoyed the conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you’re listening, and don’t forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach more listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

Jan 29, 2025 • 1h 5min
49: How Monique Huston of Winebow Decides Which Spirits Brands Make the Cut - Business of Drinks
In this episode of Business of Drinks, Scott Rosenbaum sits down with Monique Huston, Vice President of the Spirits Portfolio at Winebow, one of the country’s leading wine and spirits distributors. Monique has been leading the charge in the spirits world for over a decade, having quietly developed one of the most impressive spirits portfolios in the country, especially when it comes to agave spirits. Winebow represents brands like Fortaleza, David Suro’s Simebra Spirits, ArteNom, El Buho, and Siete Leguas.
Monique talks about how she’s built a high-performing portfolio across multiple categories — and discusses how brands can work more effectively with their distributors. She shares the “dos” of landing and nurturing a distributor relationship, and perhaps more importantly, the “don’ts!” There are plenty of actionable insights and best practices in this episode — it’s an essential listen for any brand looking to grow their wholesale business.
In this episode, Monique shares:
- The keys to building — and maintaining — a strong spirits portfolio and brand relationships.
- Why brands should treat their distributor as a customer, fostering collaboration rather than friction.
- How incentives have evolved post-COVID and why authentic relationships and educational investments are more impactful than cash incentives.
- Why transparency and preparation are essential in pitching to distributors — don’t just send an email without pricing, packaging, or a compelling story.
- Why visiting markets and doing grassroots research is critical before launching a brand in a new region.
- What comes next? The emerging sub-categories and trends that should be on your radar in the spirits space.
Stay tuned for our next episode dropping on Feb. 5.
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Erica Duecy, co-host:Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry’s most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.
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Scott Rosenbaum, co-host:Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.
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Caroline Lamb, contributor:Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.
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Jan 22, 2025 • 1h 13min
48: Mary Taylor on Bootstrapping a $20 Million Wine Brand - Business of Drinks
Who’s up in a down wine market? Mary Taylor Wine — that’s who! This brand is a quiet disruptor, having transformed how Americans discover and enjoy European wines over the past several years. Mary Taylor, founder of the eponymous brand, identified a unique opportunity in the market: bridging the gap between big brands and small growers.
By turning her import label into a trusted front-facing brand, Mary has made terroir-driven wines accessible, approachable, and affordable. In 2024, her brand achieved remarkable growth, up 16% to $20 million in global retail sales, bucking industry trends.
In this episode, Mary shares:
How Mary Taylor Wines simplifies European wine exploration with consistent, recognizable branding across 47 wine appellations
Her innovative approach to offering terroir-forward, low-intervention wines in the $12-$18 retail price point
The key to developing long-lasting relationships with family-owned vineyards that practice organic and traditional winemaking methods
Why staying lean, avoiding outside investment, and maintaining direct relationships with her growers have been critical to her success
The strategic use of efficient logistics and creative marketing to operate sustainably and profitably
The growing role of trust in wine retail and how her brand serves as a safety net for wine-curious consumers overwhelmed by retail options
Find out how Mary’s bold strategies helped her thrive while others have struggled. Click to listen and discover how you can apply these principles to your brand.
In today’s Last Call:
Caroline, Scott, and Erica tackle drinks industry trends in a “two truths and a lie” quiz. What do drinks industry publications say they want to keep or kill in 2025? We take a wild guess.
Stay tuned for our next episode dropping on January 29.
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Erica Duecy, co-host:Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry’s most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.
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Scott Rosenbaum, co-host:Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.
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Caroline Lamb, contributor:Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.
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If you enjoyed today’s conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you’re listening, and don’t forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach new listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

Jan 15, 2025 • 1h 1min
47: Building a Gen Z Wine Brand with Jess Druey of Whiny Baby - Business of Drinks
In this episode of Business of Drinks, contributor Caroline Lamb interviews Jess Druey, founder of Whiny Baby, a wine brand that’s helping to redefine wine culture for Gen Z and new wine drinkers. In a market often seen as intimidating and exclusive, Whiny Baby brings a fresh, playful, and inclusive perspective. Since launching, Jess has scaled the brand to 6,000 cases in 2024, with plans to double production in 2025. Jess shares the story behind Whiny Baby, her bold approach to branding, and how she’s meeting new consumers where they are.In this episode, Jess shares: The inspiration behind Whiny Baby: an awkward date and an overwhelming wine aisle experience led Jess to create a wine brand that’s accessible and approachable for beginners. How naiveté can be a strength: Jess credits her lack of experience for allowing her to reimagine how things "should" be done in the wine industry, from branding to distribution. Breaking the wine mold: Whiny Baby features bold, sticker-inspired labels, crown caps, and playful bottle beads that resonate with Gen Z’s nostalgic and irreverent aesthetic. How a strategic partnership enabled the brand to scale quickly: Jess’s joint venture with the McBride Sisters Wine Company got Whiny Baby onto shelves in 27 states in just a couple of years. Viral growth through TikTok: Whiny Baby’s success was boosted by early viral TikToks, helping Jess sell out her first batches of wine and reach a broad audience.Last Call:This week, we discuss brands that are cruising marketing. Join in as Scott, Caroline, and Erica talk about what they’re seeing in the marketplace, from La Crema’s inclusive activations to Fireball’s viral stunt to Firestone Walker’s mini-format beers. Stay tuned for our next episode dropping on Jan. 22. For the latest updates, follow us:Business of Drinks: LinkedIn Instagram @bizofdrinksErica Duecy, co-host:Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry’s most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies. LinkedIn Instagram @ericaduecyScott Rosenbaum, co-host:Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor. LinkedInCaroline Lamb, contributor:Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners. LinkedInIf you enjoyed the conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you’re listening, and don’t forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach more listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

Jan 8, 2025 • 38min
46: How Wine Importer Wilson Daniels Grew Revenue 6% to $250M In One of Wine’s Toughest Years – with President Rocco Lombardo - Business of Drinks
In this episode of Business of Drinks, Erica interviews Rocco Lombardo, president of Wilson Daniels, a luxury wine importer and marketer. Despite formidable industry-wide headwinds, Wilson Daniels achieved over 6% revenue growth in 2024, expanding its sales to $250 million — while the broader wine market contracted. How did Rocco and the Wilson Daniels team come out ahead? In this episode, Rocco shares: Why Burgundy, Piemonte, Tuscany, and value sparkling wines are among the fastest-growing categories in the portfolio. Strategic initiatives that have fueled growth, building on the portfolio’s strong foundation of family-run wineries, sustainable practices, and deep market discipline. How Wilson Daniels grew from a West Coast-focused company to a national powerhouse with a $350+ average case price for its brands at wholesale. How Wilson Daniels uses storytelling and authenticity to engage consumers with the rich histories behind its luxury wines. Rocco’s insights into market challenges, including tariffs, shifting consumption trends, and competition from emerging categories like RTDs and cannabis.Last Call:And don’t miss Last Call, where Scott, Caroline, and Erica discuss what they're drinking this winter — and why. The category-spanning selections might surprise you!Don’t miss our next episode, dropping on January 15.For the latest updates, follow us:Business of Drinks: LinkedIn Instagram @bizofdrinksErica Duecy, co-host:Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry’s most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies. LinkedIn Instagram @ericaduecyScott Rosenbaum, co-host:Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor. LinkedInCaroline Lamb, contributor:Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners. LinkedInIf you enjoyed the conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you’re listening, and don’t forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach more listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

Jan 1, 2025 • 1h 32min
45: 2025 Drinks Trends with Bryan Roth: What’s Next for the Industry - Business of Drinks
As we head into 2025, we’re thrilled to bring you our annual drinks trends episode featuring Bryan Roth, director of insights for Sightlines and the consumer and market analyst for Feel Goods Company. Widely respected as one of the industry’s top forecasters, Bryan shares his perspectives on what’s shaping the future of beverages, from emerging categories to shifting consumer behaviors.In this episode, Bryan shares: Why the no- and low-alcohol segments are diverging and how each is evolving into distinct categories Insights into flavor trends, from bold Asian-inspired influences to the growing embrace of bitter and savory profiles Why young consumers demand both customization and immediacy in their drink choices How RTD beverages are becoming more sophisticated, catering to consumers’ desire for flavor clarity and premiumization The untapped potential for draft beverages — beyond beer — as the on-premise market continues to reboundBryan’s insights highlight the key opportunities and challenges for drinks brands in 2025, offering actionable takeaways for founders, marketers, and innovators alike.To hear more of Bryan’s drinks trend updates, subscribe to the Sightlines newsletter. Enter the code "DRINKS" on the signup page (https://www.sightlines.news/sign-up) for a free month of access.Last Call:On this week’s Last Call, Scott quizzes Caroline and Erica on industry stats, such as: How many new bev alc producers were licensed by the TTB last year? How many new products came onto the market? Listen in for the answers you need to know! Stay tuned for our next episode dropping on January 8. For the latest updates, follow Business of Drinks LinkedIn InstagramErica Duecy, co-host:Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry’s most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies. LinkedIn InstagramScott Rosenbaum, co-host:Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. He currently serves as North America Search Manager at Distill Ventures. He was formerly the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor. LinkedInCaroline Lamb, contributor:Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners. LinkedInIf you like what you heard, help us spread the word! Follow Business of Drinks wherever you’re listening, and rate and review our episodes. It really does help us find new listeners. Thank you!


