

Whose Song Is It Anyway?
Hayleigh Bosher
This music podcast gives a unique perspective on copyright in the music industry by talking to music artists, songwriters, musicians and people from the music industry about creativity and copyright. Co-hosted by Dr Hayleigh Bosher (author of Copyright in the Music Industry) and Jules O’Riordan (Entertainment Lawyer and artist known as Judge Jules).
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Nov 3, 2023 • 42min
Women in Music Panel with Brix Smith, Katie Waissel and Charlene Brown Season Finale
This special epsisode for the finale of this season was recorded live at the Houses of Parliament with a panel of incredible women Brix Smith, Katie Waissel and Charlene Brown at a Whose Song is it Anyway? event. Pictures of the event are here: https://shorturl.at/mqHL6
To hear about future events follow Hayleigh on social media, or email whosesongisitanyway@gmail.com
Thanks for listening to this season and sharing the epsiodes, hope you have enjoyed it and we will be back next year with something new!
Here's a playlist of guest's answer to the last question: https://shorturl.at/ezLX4
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher www.instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/
Edited by Eliza Kania twitter.com/elizakania

Oct 26, 2023 • 1h 6min
Eve Horne
Eve Horne - singer, songwriter, producer, executive director of the Music Producers Guild, founder of the Unheard Academy where she teaches female and non-binary people music production, and the host of the We Are The Unheard Podcast, amongst other things!
In this episode we talk about Eve’s journey from BRIT School, being signed, touring with a girl group, to leaving the music industry and then returning with a massive come back and now doing all. the. things! Eve also talks about her recent ADHD and autism diagnosis.
https://wearetheunheard.com/
https://www.instagram.com/eve_horne/?hl=en-gb
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/we-are-the-unheard/id1599492855
Here's a playlist of guest's answer to the last question: https://shorturl.at/ezLX4
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher www.instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/
Edited by Eliza Kania twitter.com/elizakania

Aug 25, 2023 • 42min
Naomi Pohl
*trigger warning* mentions reports of sexism and misogyny from Musicians' Union members, including sexual harassment and sexual assault.
Naomi Pohl is the General Secretary of the Musicians' Union, a trade union for professional musicians in the UK. Naomi is the first women to hold this position in the MU. We talk about her experience of being the first and being a woman in a position of leadership, the specific pressures and challenges faced by women in leadership as well as generally by the MU membership. Naomi highlights actions that can be taken to improve inclusion and safety in the music industry from changing the law to changes within the industry.
https://musiciansunion.org.uk/
https://musiciansunion.org.uk/news/naomi-pohl-first-female-general-secretary
https://committees.parliament.uk/work/6736/misogyny-in-music/
https://www.helpmusicians.org.uk/get-support/bullying-harasment
https://musiciansunion.org.uk/safespace
Here's a playlist of guest's answer to the last question: https://shorturl.at/ezLX4
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher www.instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/
Edited by Eliza Kania twitter.com/elizakania

Jul 25, 2023 • 1h 5min
Michelle Escoffery
Michelle Escoffery is an award winning singer-songwriter, has taught as a lecturer at various institutions, is President of the PRS Members’ Council and on Ivor’s Academy Trustee Board.
We talk about Michelle’s experience of coming into the music industry as part of a musical family from a young age. I ask Michelle what has been the enablers and challenges that she has faced and overcome to succeed in the music industry. She highlights the power of mentorship, shares advice for overcoming imposter syndrome, being comfortable taking up space, focusing on what you bring to the table and capabilities. Pushing back against being pigeon holed and breaking out of boxes. Being on the journey of self-compassion. Have a network, to bounce ideas, share tips and experiences. Michelle shares about the PRS affinity groups which creates safe spaces for particular groups, providing support in a way that is solution based, rather than an echo chamber.
Michelle is also a qualified wellness consultant, and has developed an initiative called Pause, which creates a safe space for women of colour in the creative industries, focused on networking, support and wellness. Michelle shares some insights into her approach to embracing joy and maintaining boundaries.
https://www.prsformusic.com/about-us/governance/president-of-the-prs-members-council
https://www.michelleescoffery.com/
https://www.instagram.com/pause.theinnercircle/
Here's a playlist of guest's answer to the last question: https://shorturl.at/ezLX4
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher www.instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/
Edited by Eliza Kania twitter.com/elizakania

Jul 6, 2023 • 1h 2min
Dyvr
Dyvr is a musician, creative and activist working in the queer community and the founder of live music safe space, Sounds Queer. Dyvr talks about their experience of being in music, highlighting the challenges faced by non-binary and trans artists in the industry, sharing why they founded Sounds Queer and how that is creating a safe space for queer artists to grow.
https://www.instagram.com/dyvrofficial/
https://www.instagram.com/soundsqueersounds/?hl=en-gb
Here's a playlist of guest's answer to the last question: https://shorturl.at/ezLX4
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher www.instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/
Edited by Eliza Kania twitter.com/elizakania

Jun 15, 2023 • 41min
Imogen Heap
Imogen Heap, singer-songwriter and music-tech innovator behind Mi.Mu gloves and Creative Passport. She talks about receiving a late ADHD diagnosis and how it reframes her life and creativity. Conversations cover hyperfocus, daily routines and support systems, balancing medication with practice, and new AI and voice projects she’s developing.

Jun 7, 2023 • 58min
Vick Bain
Vick Bain is the founder of the The F List and is currently completing her PhD at Queen Mary University of London in the Centre for Research in Equality and Diversity looking at the experience of women in music. She was previously the Past President Independent Society of Musicians (ISM), the former CEO of the British Academy of Songwriters, Composers and Authors (the Ivor's Academy), and has been inducted into the Music Week Women in Music Awards Roll Of Honour and the BBC Radio 4 Woman’s Hour Music Powerlist.
In this episode Vick shares with us some initial insights from her PhD research and generally drawing from her wealth of experience in the music industry. We discuss the data, the pay gap and gender roles, and talk about both the challenges and the enablers for women and gender expansive people in the music industry.
https://thef-listmusic.uk/
https://vbain.co.uk/
Here's a playlist of guest's answer to the last question: https://shorturl.at/ezLX4
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher www.instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/
Edited by Eliza Kania twitter.com/elizakania

May 14, 2023 • 1h 2min
Charisse Beaumont
Trigger warning: Discusses racism. Some swearing.
Charisse Beaumont is the Chief Executive of Black Lives in Music, a research and advocacy organisation advocating for black music creators and industry professionals. In this episode Charisse talks about the work that BLIM have been doing, the first research to be done on the experience of black people in the music industry, which highlights that black women are the most disadvantaged in the music industry. We talk about the pressure of being ‘the first’ and the sense of responsibility that comes with this kind of work. Charisse shares her experience of this overwhelming and heart-breaking journey, as well as how she deals with it and keeps on fighting.
https://blim.org.uk/
https://blim.org.uk/report/
Here's a playlist of guest's answer to the last question: https://shorturl.at/ezLX4
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher www.instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/
Edited by Eliza Kania twitter.com/elizakania

May 4, 2023 • 31min
Helen Choudhury
Helen Choudhury is an Equality, Diversity and Inclusion change management specialist and Head of Diversity, Equality and Inclusion Music Publishers Association. Helen tells us about how she got into this work and what she has been doing in her role at the MPA. Helen also shares about how her work has been informed by her experience of living with endometriosis and adenomyosis and talks us through the MPA M3 guidance on menstruation, miscarriage, and menopause. We explore the drop off women leaving the workplace due to lack of support for people experiencing challenges with menopause.
https://mpaonline.org.uk/diversity-equality-inclusion/helen-choudhury-champion-for-m%C2%B3-and-head-of-dei-statement/
https://mpaonline.org.uk/diversity-equality-inclusion/
https://www.ukmusic.org/equality-diversity/uk-music-diversity-report-2022/
Here's a playlist of guest's answer to the last question: https://shorturl.at/ezLX4
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher www.instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/
Edited by Eliza Kania twitter.com/elizakania

Apr 26, 2023 • 38min
Cari Quoyeser & Silvia Olivieri
Cari Quoyeser is an indie rock singer, songwriter, lyricist, performer, artist, voice actor, and Global Artists Community Manager. Silvia Olivieri is a Publishing Program Manager, and previously collaborated with Imogen Heap on her research Life Of A Song and worked as Senior Copyright Assistant at Kobalt Music Publishing for three years.
In this episode, we talk about pushing back on the false narrative of women competing with each other, moving from first wave feminism that suggests that there is only room for one woman at the top, towards an intersectional feminism that is inclusive. We share our experiences of women supporting and nurturing each other in the music industry.
https://loas.creativepassport.net/
https://open.spotify.com/show/4dD3qEUU3S1ACAj0sPXh9H
Books we mention:
White feminism by Koa Beck
Why I am not a feminist by Jessa Crispin
Here's a playlist of guest's answer to the last question: https://shorturl.at/ezLX4
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher www.instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/
Edited by Eliza Kania twitter.com/elizakania
Recorded at Abbey Road Studios


