Nareit's REIT Report Podcast

Randy Moss, an industry principal at Yardi, joined the latest episode of the REIT Report podcast to discuss the current landscape for energy management and sustainability reporting facing REITs and commercial real estate (CRE). Yardi is a Nareit Real Estate Sustainability Partner. Moss pointed to funding and building performance standards as key issues of the moment. “The challenge is understanding where your buildings have to comply, (and) what all-new data points you may be needing to collect,” he said. At the same time, utility companies are putting more roadblocks in the way of providing data, especially for tenant-occupied spaces in buildings, according to Moss. “Staying ahead of all of that is going to take some real focus within the REIT space,” he said.

Daniel Ismail, co-head of strategic research at Green Street, joined the REIT Report to discuss recent REIT M&A activity and its implications for the sector.REIT M&A activity has been lively in 2025, with the pace expected to continue into 2026, especially if interest rates decline, Ismail said. At the same time, however, the size of transactions is about 80% smaller than over the past decade, he added.Deals announced this month include the acquisition of Sotherly Hotels Inc. (Nasdaq: SOHO) by a joint venture backed by Kemmons Wilson Hospitality Partners and Ascendant Capital Partners, and the acquisition of Plymouth Industrial REIT, Inc. (NYSE: PLYM) by Makarora Management LP and Ares Alternative Credit funds.Ismail pointed out that in a typical REIT M&A event, the premium to unaffected share price is about 15%. In the case of Plymouth Industrial, that premium stands at 50%, and jumps to 150% for Sotherly. 

James Davidson, Houston-based capital markets partner in the REIT practice at Hogan Lovells, was a guest on the latest episode of the REIT Report podcast. He discussed the recent Fermi Inc. IPO and its implications for the REIT industry, particularly in the context of the energy and infrastructure assets that are needed to fuel the buildout of AI technology.“The way to think about Fermi is that it's a mainstream attempt to finance the physical side of artificial intelligence with a REIT wrapper…that is highly investable to the broadest set of investors,” Davidson said. He discussed the evolving role of infrastructure in the REIT space, the potential for strong foreign capital investment, and the challenges faced in integrating energy and infrastructure assets into the REIT model. 

In this conversation, Brian Rubin discusses the key issues and priorities facing REIT boards today, including economic uncertainty, regulatory compliance, and the need for technology fluency. He emphasizes the evolving skills required for board members, strategies for effective governance, and the role of AI in enhancing board operations. The discussion highlights the importance of continuous improvement in governance practices to adapt to changing risks and opportunities in the real estate sector.

Friso Berghuis, Director of Listed Investments at Bouwinvest, shares his expertise in integrating public and private real estate strategies for Dutch pension funds. He discusses the advantages of investing in listed real estate, such as accessing specific sectors like healthcare, self-storage, and data centers. Friso emphasizes the swift investment capabilities across diverse markets and the unique benefits of unlisted and listed assets not moving in sync. He also touches on the impact of Dutch pension reforms on investment strategies and the importance of local partnerships for better market access.

Victor Coleman, chairman and CEO of Hudson Pacific Properties, Inc. (NYSE: HPP), joined the latest episode of the REIT Report podcast. He discussed the unique positioning of Hudson Pacific in the REIT sector, with its focus on marquee office and studio properties for tech and media tenants.Coleman shared insights on current trends in the West Coast office market, the impact of AI on real estate, innovative leasing strategies, the effects of new tax incentives on studio demand in California and New York, and the financial improvements Hudson Pacific has made to ensure future growth. During the interview, Coleman observed that West Coast office fundamentals are “absolutely improving,” led by San Francisco, which he described as the “epicenter of AI.” Public safety initiatives in the city have also led to an increase in investment, he noted. 

Sally Ann Flood, Vice Chair and U.S. Real Estate Sector Leader at Deloitte, shares vital insights from Deloitte's 2026 Commercial Real Estate Outlook. With an optimistic sentiment index of 65, she reveals that 75% of global executives plan to boost their real estate investments. Flood highlights key sectors like data centers and logistics, discusses capital market dynamics, and explores AI's growing role in the industry. She emphasizes the U.S. as a top investment destination, driven by strategic partnerships and evolving tax policies.

Bill Hughes, managing director, liquid strategies at Digital Bridge Investment Management, joined the latest episode of the REIT Report podcast. He discussed opportunities in listed real estate and REITs for institutional investors, the impact of liquidity on market dynamics, the importance of strategic portfolio construction in relation to interest rates, and more.Hughes noted that now is an “interesting time” for institutional investors to be thinking about their allocation to public real estate, where a number of higher quality assets are trading at material discounts to private market values. He described the public markets as having “a decent number of mispriced and interesting” investments available right now.During the interview he also noted that for DigitalBridge, focusing capital into “idiosyncratic stories within a fairly rich and diverse opportunity set that is the REIT market” provides its investors with exposure to investments that are significantly different from what they can find in the private markets or in a market cap weighted index.

In this episode, Sarah Borchersen-Keto and Uma Moriarity, senior investment strategist at CenterSquare Investment Management, discuss the implications of recent Federal Reserve decisions on interest rates and their impact on REITs and the commercial real estate market. They explore historical trends in REIT performance, current investor sentiment, and the valuation differences between public and private real estate markets. Moriarity shares insights on high conviction property types and strategies for building resilient portfolios amidst economic uncertainty.

Stacey McEvoy, partner at Hogan Lovells, was a guest on the latest episode of the REIT Report podcast. She discussed REIT transaction activity, capital raising, legal and regulatory issues facing the industry, and more. McEvoy noted that REITs demonstrated resilience in the first half of 2025 and pointed out that those REITs that have maintained disciplined balance sheets have been the most successful at navigating market volatility. “I do think the modest positive performance that REITs have experienced during these uncertain times have left them well-positioned to achieve stronger performance in 2026 as the markets stabilize,” she said. McEvoy also said the market is continuing to feel the effects of the high cost of capital from the last couple of years, along with higher cap rates. “And although those have been declining, investor sentiment remains cautious. As a result, transaction volume has been down.”