

The Dismal Science
The Australian Institute of Company Directors
Join the AICD's Chief Economist Mark Thirlwell GAICD for this weekly deep dive into the latest economic news from Australia and around the world. From interest rates to trade wars and everything in between, we have you covered.
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Sep 17, 2023 • 1h 10min
165 - Slow Gurner
Colourful property developer Tim Gurner caused an outcry calling for the unemployment rate to rise, saying "we need to see pain in the economy". How different is his message from the RBA's official line? Plus, the latest confidence numbers, a farewell speech from Lowe, a getting to know you speech from the incoming productivity commissioner, and the obesity wonder drug Ozempic and Danish GDP.

Sep 8, 2023 • 24min
164 - Lowe's last stand
Governor Lowe's last RBA meeting and rates are on hold. Is the next move of the new era down? Plus, Australia enters a 'per capita recession' and the global solar boom.

Sep 1, 2023 • 54min
163 - The consolation of philosophy
Central bankers turned philosophical at last week's annual Jackson Hole conference as they contemplated the mistakes they have made over the last two years. Plus, the incoming Reserve Bank governor talks climate change, inflation continues to come down and the stifling effect of high interest rates on innovation.

Aug 25, 2023 • 1h 15min
162 - Talkin bout intergeneration
Australia's growth will slow and its population age over the next forty years, putting pressure on the budget and more generally our standard of living, according to the government's latest Intergenerational Report. What can we do to jolt Australia out of this growth and productivity malaise? Plus, BRICS talk dedollarisation, Argentina talks dollarisation, and the case for bringing back the proper office.

Aug 18, 2023 • 33min
161 - Missing values
China this week suspended its youth unemployment data, having registered a record high in June. It's one of a raft of economic series that China has pulled in recent years. How troubling a sign is this for the Chinese economy? Plus, unemployment in Australia ticks up, wages growth remains relatively subdued, Russia's crashing rouble, and Mark's mixed World Cup allegiances.

Aug 11, 2023 • 57min
160 - Is China the new Japan?
China's economy is experiencing a bout of deflation. Consumer demand is weak, the population is growing older and the property sector is undergoing a painful deleveraging. Is the Chinese economy about to stagnate like Japan in the 90s? Plus, the latest confidence numbers for Australia and CBA posts a record profit on the back of rising interest rates.

Aug 4, 2023 • 36min
159 - Are we there yet?
The RBA has kept interest rates on hold for the second meeting in a row. Are we now, finally, done with rate rises? Plus, the US government credit downgrade and industrial policy makes a comeback.

Jul 28, 2023 • 37min
158 - Heading in the right direction
Inflation in Australia is coming down. Have we won the war? Should Governor Lowe feel stiff? Or will rates need to stay 'higher for longer' as services inflation continues to blaze? Plus, the IMF sounds cautiously optimistic on global growth and Mark gives us his reflections on the UK economy after his holiday.

Jul 17, 2023 • 31min
157 - Bullock at the gate
The white smoke is billowing from Martin Place, we have a new RBA governor. So who is Michele Bullock? And what will Philip Lowe's legacy be? Mark is still on leave so Bennett joins Ivan to answer these questions. To hear more of Bennett, listen to our new podcast, Boardroom Conversations, where he talks to some of Australia's leading directors aicd.com.au/news-media/boardroom-conversations

Jun 16, 2023 • 33min
156 - Skip it
The US Fed 'skips' hiking this month but hints there's still more to come. Plus, the Australian labour market continues to boom even as confidence slides. The Dismal Science will now also be pausing for a few weeks as Mark is on holidays. Back soon.


