

The Sport of Life: Chats w/ Comedians, Filmmakers, Sports Figures, Musicians, & Intellectuals
Trey Elling
Trey Elling chats with comedians, filmmakers, sports figures, musicians, and authors about their stories.
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Aug 21, 2021 • 1h 9min
#163 - Giovanni Rocco on GIOVANNI'S RING
Former undercover law enforcement officer Giovanni Rocco chats with Trey Elling about GIOVANNI'S RING: MY LIFE INSIDE THE REAL SOPRANOS. The conversation includes:
Giovanni explains his path to becoming an undercover cop
How he initially infiltrated the Italian mob
Unexpectedly putting his family in grave danger at his daughter's soccer tournament
Continuing to rise through the mafia ranks
Accidentally smoking crack
The strange moral dilemma he faced when the decision was made to take down several family members

Aug 19, 2021 • 50min
#162 - Bobby Rush on I AIN'T STUDDIN' YA
Two-time Grammy-winning blues musician Bobby Rush chats with Trey Elling about I AIN'T STUDDIN' YA: MY AMERICAN BLUES STORY. Questions include:
What was it like growing up as a black kid in the deep south in the 1930s and '40s? (02:38)
How did a 75-cent ticket to see Muddy Waters perform change Bobby's life? (12:58)
When did Bobby realize he was funny enough to use comedy as part of his act? (17:09)
How did hanging out with Little Walter lead to Bobby playing more harmonica? (19:19)
What meant more...the two Grammys or being inducted into the Rhythm & Blues Hall of Fame? (35:00)
Why does he end interviews with, "I crossed over, but I didn't cross out."? (41:28)

Aug 17, 2021 • 44min
#161 - Joan Koenig on THE MUSICAL CHILD
Pioneering music educator Joan Koenig chats with Trey Elling about THE MUSICAL CHILD: USING THE POWER OF MUSIC TO RAISE CHILDREN WHO ARE HAPPY, HEALTHY, AND WHOLE. Questions include:
What are some ways for parents to connect with their children musically, under the age of 1? (07:09)
Regarding musical solutions for an upset baby, what is a strategy known as the first intervention? (13:05)
How do the results for in-person learning and video learning differ? (16:50)
How does creative play positively impact a child's emotional IQ and social development? (20:44)
What is music scribbling? (22:17)
Is there a critical age for musical understanding like there is for language acquisition? (24:05)
How does music boost self-control, focus, and anticipation, three traits that modern science deems more important than IQ for success and happiness in life? (25:20)
Why is Joan less concerned with teaching her young students how to read music? (28:21)
Why is improvisation no longer a cornerstone of classical music? (37:10)

Aug 14, 2021 • 34min
#160 - Docs on Pod #6 - Matt Yoka on WHIRLYBIRD
Filmmaker Matt Yoka chats with Trey Elling about his new documentary, WHIRLYBIRD: A SPRAWLING L.A. STORY. The film chronicles the rise, fall, and transition of legendary Los Angeles helicopter pilot/reporter Zoey Tur (née Bob Tur). Tur is responsible for well known footage from the '92 LA Riots and OJ Simpson's white Bronco pursuit, as well as popularizing live streams of high speed police chases. But she was also battling an internal struggle that cost her everything, professionally and personally.

Aug 12, 2021 • 42min
#159 - Barry Meier on SPOOKED
Pulitzer Prize winner and former New York Times investigative reporter Barry Meier chats with Trey Elling about SPOOKED: THE TRUMP DOSSIER, BLACK CUBE, AND THE RISE OF PRIVATE SPIES. Questions include:
Why does the first chapter of a book on private spies focus on journalism?
Who are Glenn Simpson and Fusion GPS?
Why did they connect with Michael Steele in 2016 to take Trump down?
How did Buzzfeed end up publishing the dossier?
Have many media outlets apologized for reporting on dossier claims that turned out to be false?
What does Barry think his strength is as as reporter?

Aug 10, 2021 • 22min
#158 - Andrew Dice Clay
It's episode #3 of our 'No Books Required' series, with legendary standup comedian Andrew Dice Clay, ahead of his performances on August 14th and 15th at Vulcan Gas Company in Austin, TX. Questions include:
How good does it feel to be out performing standup again? (01:05)
Is it nicer to do smaller venues than someplace like Madison Square Garden? (04:52)
Did he ever think at the height of his popularity that he'd eventually become an elder statesman for standup? (09:17)
Does he recall when the legendary Mitzi Shore passed him at the Comedy Store? (12:43)
Did he and Bill Hicks ever cross paths?
Is he concerned that 'cancel culture' will infect standup comedy? (19:25)

Aug 7, 2021 • 51min
#157 - Christina Hillsberg on LICENSE TO PARENT
Former CIA spy Christina Hillsberg chats with Trey Elling on LICENSE TO PARENT: HOW MY CAREER AS A SPY HELPED ME RAISE RESOURCEFUL, SELF-SUFFICIENT KIDS. Questions include:
How did she end up working in the Central Intelligence Agency? (01:12)
Is there a good way to teach kids how to improvise for becoming better prepared? (11:53)
What is 'getting off the X'? (12:51)
Why is it important for kids to avoid predictability in being aware of their surroundings? (17:35)
What is 'you, me, same same'? (23:12)
How has Christina opened her kids' eyes to the world to help build rapport with others? (26:22)
Why are analytic lead sentences important for teaching children written communication skills? (32:34)
Are there good ways to moderate technology with little kids? (37:18)

Aug 5, 2021 • 33min
#156 - Dean Karnazes on A RUNNER'S HIGH
Ultramarathon legend and bestselling author Dean Karnazes chats with Trey Elling about A RUNNER'S HIGH: MY LIFE IN MOTION. Questions include:
Why does he run such long distances in grueling conditions? (02:05)
Is the extreme growth of ultramarathoning over the past 20+ years a good thing? (02:54)
What's it like in the days after completing an ultra? (08:18)
What is the greatest lesson running has taught him? (14:47)
How special was it for his son to be there to help during Dean's most recent participation in the Western States 100?
Why did he break down crying with less than two miles left in the race? (28:31)
How many more 100-mile races do his legs and mind have left? (30:39)

Aug 3, 2021 • 26min
#155 - Docs on Pod #4 - Kristine Stolakis on PRAY AWAY
Filmmaker Kristine Stolakis chats with Trey Elling about the new Netflix documentary PRAY AWAY. Questions include:
How did Kristine end up working on this film? (01:02)
Is gay conversion therapy mostly a religious movement? (04:12)
Was it tough to find interviewees who had been through gay conversion therapy? (07:25)
Is Kristine hopeful from society's increasing acceptance of LGBTQ+ communities over the past 15 years? (14:53)
Do those who leave conversion therapy groups typically remain Christian? (17:54)
What would Kristine ask the modern leaders of conversion therapy who declined her interview requests? (18:41)
What does Kristine still love about her late uncle, the man who inspired this film? (22:50)

Jul 31, 2021 • 37min
#154 - Dan Glickman on LAUGHING AT MYSELF
Former Secretary of Agriculture, Kansas congressman, and Chairman/CEO of the Motion Picture Association of America Dan Glickman chats with Trey Elling about LAUGHING AT MYSELF: MY EDUCATION IN CONGRESS, ON THE FARM, AND AT THE MOVIES. Questions include:
What was it like growing up in a family of "cafeteria Jews" in Wichita, KS? (02:57)
Why did he switch from Republican to Democrat early in his political life? (06:38)
What did he learn about agriculture during his first successful congressional run? (08:14)
How is Dan Glickman responsible for the Pizza Hut pizza served in schools in the early-to-mid '90s? (14:12)
As someone who originally supported the legislation that created it, has NAFTA been a net positive or negative for the US? (18:03)
What all is the USDA, which he led as the ag secretary, responsible for? (19:26)
Has the mainstream press on "both" sides become unreliable to report news without spinning it to fit a specific narrative? (28:37)
Do we as a country produce and waste too much food? (31:48)


