The Great Tech Game Podcast: Geopolitics, Technology, Business and Global Affairs, with Anirudh Suri

Anirudh Suri
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Apr 4, 2024 • 1h 9min

Ep 12. Underground Empires: Using Economic Networks for Geopolitical Goals ft. Abe Newman

This episode of the 'Great Tech Game' podcast features a discussion with Professor Abe Newman, a prominent figure at Georgetown University and the co-head of the Mortara Center for International Studies. Professor Newman is also the author of 'The Underground Empire,' a book examining how the U.S. has harnessed the global economy as a tool for weaponized interdependence. The conversation delves into the evolving dynamics of geopolitics, technology, and the economy, addressing how countries, particularly the U.S., have leveraged economic networks and infrastructure as means of coercion and surveillance. Notable topics include the role of companies like SWIFT, TSMC, and Huawei as participants in global economic strategies, the historical precedents of using economic networks for geopolitical ends, and the challenges posed by the entanglement of rivalry and interdependence in current international relations. The discussion underscores the need for a more nuanced economic security state capable of managing the existing interplay between security and economics, while suggesting a trend towards a potentially multipolar world order.About Abraham Newman:Abraham L. Newman, born in 1973, is an American political scientist and professor at Georgetown University's Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service and Government Department. He also serves as the Director of the Mortara Center for International Studies. Newman's research is dedicated to examining how economic interdependence and globalization have reshaped the landscape of international politics. His insightful contributions have been featured in esteemed publications including the Financial Times, Foreign Affairs, and The New York Times.00:00 The Power Dynamics of Global Markets01:27 Introducing Professor Abe Newman and The Underground Empire02:53 Unveiling the Underground Empire: How the U.S. Weaponizes the Global Economy04:51 Historical Context: From Telegraph Cables to Today's Global Networks15:09 Weaponized Interdependence: The New Geopolitical Leverage24:32 The Challenges of Building Alternatives to U.S. Dominance33:21 Europe's Struggle in the Global Tech Arena34:04 The Future of AI: A New Frontier for Dependency and Power35:34 The Impact of Brexit on the UK's AI Ecosystem35:59 US-China Rivalry: The Weaponization of AI and Economic Tools37:26 The Sustainability of US Economic Dominance44:48 The Role of Private Companies in Geopolitical Strategies45:30 Markets as Battlefields: The New Geo-Economic Landscape01:03:28 The Future of Global Order: Navigating Rivalry and Interdependence01:08:06 Concluding Thoughts and RecommendationsTo know more about Abraham Newmanhttps://gufaculty360.georgetown.edu/s/contact/00336000014RcmSAAS/abraham-newman**Underground Empire: How America Weaponized the World Economy** : https://amzn.in/d/0nvHq4t**The Uses and Abuses of Weaponized Interdependence:** https://amzn.in/d/0ioTh1n**Of Privacy and Power: The Transatlantic Struggle over Freedom and Security :** https://amzn.in/d/ferpltm**Voluntary Disruptions: International Soft Law, Finance, and Power (Transformations in Governance)** : https://amzn.in/d/0rsuGgn**Protectors of Privacy: Regulating Personal Data in the Global Economy :** https://amzn.in/d/fZtnXrFFollow Anirudh here:X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/anirudhsuriLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anirudhsuri/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anirudh_suriFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/AnirudhSuri.inWebsite: [www.anirudhsuri.com](http://www.anirudhsuri.com/)Book and Podcast: [www.greattechgame.com](http://www.greattechgame.com/)Anirudh Suri:The Great Tech Game by Anirudh Suri : https://amzn.eu/d/1Su38My
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Mar 23, 2024 • 7min

Ep 11. The new rising powers in a multipolar world ft. Sebastian Mallaby

Full Episode: https://youtu.be/CH-4yCU1BTsIn this compelling episode, host Anirudh Suri converses with Sebastian Mallaby about the shifting dynamics of global power. They delve into the technological and capital trends propelling emerging powers like India, Indonesia, and Vietnam. Highlighting the transition from a bipolar to a multipolar world, Mallaby discusses the complexities and risks associated with this new geopolitical landscape. The conversation examines the decline of American dominance in multilateral institutions and the rise of regional governance structures such as the Quad and AUKUS.00:00 Introduction to Emerging Powers00:48 Demographics and Growth Potential01:57 The Multipolar World Order03:27 Geopolitical and Macro Risks03:48 Challenges of Multilateralism05:05 US Withdrawal from Multilateralism06:27 Rise of Regional Governance**Books**Sebastian:**The Power Law: Venture Capital and the Making of the New Future** - https://amzn.eu/d/0N1LYKo**More Money than God** - https://amzn.eu/d/goWCmMg**The Man Who Knew: The Life & Times of Alan Greenspan -** https://amzn.eu/d/7U4ZzSeAnirudh:The Great Tech Game by Anirudh Suri : [amzn.eu/d/1Su38My](http://amzn.eu/d/1Su38My)Follow Anirudh here:X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/anirudhsuriYoutube: https://www.youtube.com/@anirudh_suriLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anirudhsuri/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anirudh_suriFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/AnirudhSuri.inWebsite: [www.anirudhsuri.com](http://www.anirudhsuri.com/)Book and Podcast: [www.greattechgame.com](http://www.greattechgame.com/)#EmergingPowers, #MultipolarWorld, #IndiaChina, #Geopolitics, #GlobalTrends, #FutureOfEconomy, #YoungPopulation, #TechnologicalAdvancements, #GlobalCapital, #AsianGrowth, #DemographicTrends, #USBloc, #ChineseBloc, #IndependentIndia, #EuropeanDynamics, #MediumSizedActors, #Multilateralism, #GlobalRisks, #RegionalGovernance, #BrettonWoodsEra
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Mar 22, 2024 • 3min

Short Clip - Has Power Shifted from Wall Street to Silicon Valley? Ft. Sebastian Mallaby. (Ep.11 - Clip 7)

Join host Anirudh Suri as he delves into a deep conversation with guest Sebastian Mallaby about the shifting dynamics between technology and capital. They discuss the current landscape where technology and venture capital are outshining traditional Wall Street firms, explore the exponential growth driven by advancements like artificial intelligence, and question whether the real power has shifted from financial institutions to tech innovators.
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Mar 22, 2024 • 5min

Was Piketty wrong about capital causing inequality?

Full Episode: https://youtu.be/CH-4yCU1BTs In this episode, host Anirudh Suri engages in an insightful conversation with Sebastian Mallaby about the implications of a tech-driven economic world. They discuss the divergence in global economic trends, the increase and decrease of inequality, and the dynamics between labor and capital. Mallaby provides historical context, referencing Thomas Piketty's theories and examining periods where labor held significant negotiating power, such as the 1950s and 1960s in America. The conversation touches on the reversal of inequality trends post-COVID and stresses the non-deterministic nature of economic cycles. 00:00 Introduction: Tech-Driven Economic Divergence 00:25 Thomas Piketty's Capital and Economic Inequality 01:09 Debunking the Iron Law of Capital 02:28 Recent Trends in U.S. Inequality 03:07 Historical Examples of Labor vs. Capital Rewards 04:31 The Impact of Global Competition on Labor **Books** Sebastian: **The Power Law: Venture Capital and the Making of the New Future** - https://amzn.eu/d/0N1LYKo **More Money than God** - https://amzn.eu/d/goWCmMg **The Man Who Knew: The Life & Times of Alan Greenspan -** https://amzn.eu/d/7U4ZzSe Anirudh: The Great Tech Game by Anirudh Suri : [amzn.eu/d/1Su38My](http://amzn.eu/d/1Su38My) Follow Anirudh here: X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/anirudhsuri Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@anirudh_suri Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anirudhsuri/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anirudh_suri Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AnirudhSuri.in Website: [www.anirudhsuri.com](http://www.anirudhsuri.com/) Book and Podcast: [www.greattechgame.com](http://www.greattechgame.com/) #EconomicInequality, #TechDrivenEconomy, #ThomasPiketty, #CapitalBook, #JaipurLiteraryFestival, #COVIDImpact, #EconomicDivergence, #LaborVsCapital, #PoliticalEconomy, #InequalityTrends, #IncomeDisparity, #EconomicCycles, #DemocracyAndInequality, #UnionizedWorkforce, #WageBargaining, #Protectionism, #AutoIndustry, #JapaneseCompetitors, #CapitalInvestment, #WorkerCompensation
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Mar 22, 2024 • 5min

Why Capital Matters ft. Sebastian Mallaby

Join host Anirudh Suri and guest Sebastian Mallaby as they explore the historical evolution of capital and its profound impact on global finance. They discuss the pivotal role of the Industrial Revolution in shifting from small-scale operations to large companies, the influence of trade finance during the great trading era, and the emergence of powerful financial figures like JP Morgan. The conversation also highlights the significant contributions of contemporary financiers such as George Soros and Arthur Rock in shaping modern economics and technological innovation.
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Mar 21, 2024 • 6min

Government Clampdowns on Wall Street vs Silicon Valley ft. Sebastian Mallaby (Clip 6)

In this episode, host Anirudh Suri engages in an insightful discussion with guest Sebastian Mallaby on the historical evolution of financial systems and the regulatory cycles over the past century. They explore the dynamics between private banking entities and public institutions like the central bank, focusing on significant periods such as the establishment of the Federal Reserve, the 1920s stock market bubble and the ensuing crash, and the 2008 financial crisis. They also draw parallels between these financial regulatory cycles and the current tug of war between big tech firms and governments, examining the systemic implications of financial versus technological excesses.
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Mar 20, 2024 • 3min

Is a massive class conflict happening again?. (Clip 5)

In this episode, host Anirudh Suri discusses the rising levels of global inequality with guest Sebastian Mallaby. They delve into historical contexts, comparing today's socioeconomic conditions with the pre-World War I era, and contemplate the potential for significant socio-political movements. The conversation touches on the rise of populism, the impact of social media on perceptions of inequality, and its implications for political landscapes in the U.S. and Europe.
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Mar 20, 2024 • 3min

Has Power Shifted from Wall Street to Silicon Valley? Ft. Sebastian Mallaby

Full Episode: https://youtu.be/CH-4yCU1BTs Join host Anirudh Suri as he delves into a deep conversation with guest Sebastian Mallaby about the shifting dynamics between technology and capital. They discuss the current landscape where technology and venture capital are outshining traditional Wall Street firms, explore the exponential growth driven by advancements like artificial intelligence, and question whether the real power has shifted from financial institutions to tech innovators. 00:00 Introduction to Technology and Capital 00:24 The Dominance of Technology in Modern Capitalism 00:48 Venture Capital vs. Wall Street 01:04 Media Coverage and Market Valuations 01:22 Investment Comparisons: Tech vs. Wall Street 02:13 The Shift of Power to Silicon Valley 02:39 The Impact of Technological Advancements **Books** Sebastian: **The Power Law: Venture Capital and the Making of the New Future** - https://amzn.eu/d/0N1LYKo **More Money than God** - https://amzn.eu/d/goWCmMg **The Man Who Knew: The Life & Times of Alan Greenspan -** https://amzn.eu/d/7U4ZzSe Anirudh: The Great Tech Game by Anirudh Suri : [amzn.eu/d/1Su38My](http://amzn.eu/d/1Su38My) Follow Anirudh here: X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/anirudhsuri Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@anirudh_suri Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anirudhsuri/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anirudh_suri Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AnirudhSuri.in Website: [www.anirudhsuri.com](http://www.anirudhsuri.com/) Book and Podcast: [www.greattechgame.com](http://www.greattechgame.com/) #TechAndCapital, #PowerShift, #VentureCapital, #WallStreetRegulation, #GlobalCapitalism, #TechFinance, #SequoiaCapital, #GoldmanSachs, #MorganStanley, #StockMarketValuations, #FinancialCrisis2008, #TechValuations, #AppleInvestments, #PowerLaw, #JohnGunn, #TheGreatGame, #SiliconValley, #MooresLaw, #ExponentialGrowth, #ArtificialIntelligence
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Mar 19, 2024 • 8min

New Power Brokers - Hedge Funds and Venture Capitalists. (Clip 4)

In this episode, host Anirudh Suri discusses with guest Sebastian Mallaby the rise and influence of hedge funds and venture capital in the finance industry. They delve into how these players, absent in the 1920s and 1930s, have become powerful forces shaping the rules of the game today. The conversation covers the significant growth and role of hedge funds in market innovation and price discovery, and the risk-reward dynamics unique to venture capital. Mallaby also explains why these forms of capital deployment remain distinct from the operations within large traditional banks, attributing it to the differences in incentive structures.
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Mar 19, 2024 • 5min

Future of Venture Capital - Unipolar or Multipolar

Full Episode: https://youtu.be/CH-4yCU1BTs Host Anirudh Suri interviews Sebastian Mallaby disscus about the potential shift in the venture capital industry from a unipolar dominance by Silicon Valley to a multipolar landscape, how venture capital, which traditionally relies on taking big risks for massive upsides, is spreading beyond Northern California to regions like China, India, and Europe. The discussion highlights that growing local markets and cultural shifts toward accepting failure as a learning experience are pivotal in this transition. However, the success of venture capital in smaller markets, such as those in Africa, remains uncertain due to limited market size and the need for a unified market. They examines how the Silicon Valley mindset, which values failure as a stepping-stone, is essential for adopting the power law investment strategy inherent to venture capital success. **Books** Sebastian: **The Power Law: Venture Capital and the Making of the New Future** - https://amzn.eu/d/0N1LYKo **More Money than God** - https://amzn.eu/d/goWCmMg **The Man Who Knew: The Life & Times of Alan Greenspan -** https://amzn.eu/d/7U4ZzSe Anirudh: The Great Tech Game by Anirudh Suri : [amzn.eu/d/1Su38My](http://amzn.eu/d/1Su38My) Follow Anirudh here: X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/anirudhsuri Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@anirudh_suri Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anirudhsuri/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anirudh_suri Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AnirudhSuri.in Website: [www.anirudhsuri.com](http://www.anirudhsuri.com/) Book and Podcast: [www.greattechgame.com](http://www.greattechgame.com/) #FinanceHistory, #EconomicCycles, #GovernmentIntervention, #CentralBanking, #FederalReserve, #BankingCrisis, #FinancialRegulation, #StockMarketCrash, #SecuritiesAndExchangeCommission, #FinancialInnovation, #DerivativesMarket, #FinancialCrisis2008, #BankBailout, #WallStreetHistory, #GreatDepression, #EconomicRegulation, #TechVsGovernment, #BigTechRegulation, #TechIndustry, #GovernmentVsTech

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