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The Lawfare Institute
The Lawfare Podcast features discussions with experts, policymakers, and opinion leaders at the nexus of national security, law, and policy. On issues from foreign policy, homeland security, intelligence, and cybersecurity to governance and law, we have doubled down on seriousness at a time when others are running away from it. Visit us at www.lawfaremedia.org.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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May 7, 2020 • 47min
Aric Toler on How Not to Report on Disinformation
For this week's episode of our Arbiters of Truth series on disinformation, Evelyn Douek and Alina Polyakova talked to Aric Toler of Bellingcat, a collective that has quickly become the gold-standard for open source and social media investigations. Aric recently published a blog post in response to a New York Times article on Russian influence campaigns—one retweeted by former President Barak Obama no less—that Aric called “How Not to Report on Disinformation.” Evelyn and Alina asked him about the article and what exactly Aric thought was wrong with it as a case study for reporters writing about disinformation operations. When are reporters helping to uncover threats to democracy, and when are they giving oxygen to fringe actors?Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

May 7, 2020 • 1h 22min
The Lawfare Podcast Bonus Edition: John Ratcliffe vs. The Committee With No Bull
Representative John Ratcliffe testified before the Senate Select Intelligence Committee as a part of his nomination for the position of Director of National Intelligence. Ratcliffe was asked about his views on Russian interference, about the threat posed by North Korea, about how he would handle a variety of issues posed by the coronavirus pandemic and much more. The hearing was fairly substantive but did include some meanderings and grandstanding. But we cut out all the unnecessary repetition and theatrics to leave you with just the questions and answers that you need to hear.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

May 5, 2020 • 53min
Jung Pak on 'Becoming Kim Jong Un'
Jung Pak is a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, a former CIA analyst and a North Korea specialist. She is the author of "Becoming Kim Jong Un: A Former CIA Analyst’s Insights into North Korea’s Enigmatic Young Dictator.” She joined Benjamin Wittes to discuss Kim Jong Un, the recent questions about whether he had died or become seriously ill, his rise to power and his confrontations with Donald Trump over nuclear weapons.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

May 2, 2020 • 44min
Law, Policy and Empire with Daniel Immerwahr
Most of us don’t think of United States history as an imperial history, but the facts are there. The law and policy surrounding westward expansion, off-continent acquisitions, and a worldwide network of hundreds of bases reveal much about how and why the United States grew as it did. Last month, David Priess spoke with Daniel Immerwahr, associate professor of history at Northwestern University and author of “How to Hide an Empire.” They talked about everything from what the Constitution says about lands west of the thirteen colonies, to the critical role of the Guano Islands in U.S. history, to the famous Insular Cases, to how military access agreements and long-term leases help the United States avoid a truly territorial empire.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

May 1, 2020 • 47min
Tom Wheeler and Nicol Turner Lee on 5G Deployment and Digital Competition with China
Margaret Taylor spoke with Brookings scholars Tom Wheeler and Nicol Turner Lee to discuss their new papers published as part of a two-year-long Brookings project called Global China: Assessing China’s Growing Role in the World. They talked about where the United States and China stand in the so-called “race” to deploy 5G networks, and the need for a coherent U.S. national strategy going forward. They talked about spurring American competition by liberating the crucial asset of the next wave of the digital economy—consumer-generated data—and they talked about the prospects for effective regulation and protection of individual privacy. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Apr 30, 2020 • 52min
Thomas Rid on 'Active Measures,' Part 2
Thomas Rid, a Professor of Strategic Studies at Johns Hopkins, discusses his book on the secret history of disinformation and political warfare. He delves into the evolution of disinformation tactics since the Cold War, including chilling KGB operations. Rid shares insights from interviewing former intelligence officials and sheds light on the complexities of modern disinformation in the digital age. The conversation also examines the Internet Research Agency's influence on electoral interference, highlighting the critical role journalism plays in shaping our understanding of these campaigns.

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Apr 29, 2020 • 43min
Thomas Rid on 'Active Measures,' Part 1
Thomas Rid, a Professor of Strategic Studies at Johns Hopkins University and author of 'Active Measures,' delves into the intriguing history of disinformation. He discusses the evolution of misinformation tactics, highlighting the powerful KGB strategies during the Cold War and the impact of rumors, such as the AIDS bioweapon myth. Rid also examines the ethical dilemmas of using covert operations in geopolitics and the lessons we can draw from past events to understand contemporary influence campaigns.

Apr 28, 2020 • 34min
Sophia Yan Reports from Quarantine in Beijing
Sophia Yan, a correspondent in Beijing for the London Telegraph, joined Benjamin Wittes from Beijing where she is in coronavirus lockdown after traveling to Wuhan, China, to see how it was recovering from being the coronavirus epidemic center earlier in the year. They talked about what Wuhan looks like these days, what quarantine means in China, and how close the surveillance is. And they talked about the Chinese government, how it is responding to the crisis, and about how the Chinese economy is recovering and suffering.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Apr 25, 2020 • 41min
Coronavirus, Federalism and Supply Chains: A Case Study
We've covered this novel coronavirus from many angles, focusing on the disaster response issues that make up part of national security. For this episode of the Lawfare Podcast, we have something a bit different: a case study of how pandemic control measures intersect with federalism issues and supply chain continuity and security. With a focus on what's happening in Illinois, David Priess spoke with Rob Karr, the president and CEO of the Illinois Retail Merchants Association, representing the industry employing one out of every five people in Illinois, and with Mark Denzler, the co-chair of the state's Essential Equipment Task Force and the president and CEO of the Illinois Manufacturers' Association, representing companies that employ almost 600,000 Illinoisans.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Apr 23, 2020 • 48min
Charlie Warzel on the Pandemic Internet
On this episode of Lawfare's Arbiters of Truth series on disinformation, Kate Klonick and Quinta Jurecic spoke with Charlie Warzel, an opinion writer at large at the New York Times. He’s written about the internet, disinformation, privacy and platform governance—and recently he’s been focusing on how these collide with COVID-19 and the uncertainty and anxiety of living through a pandemic. They talked about what the pandemic shows us about the role of big tech companies and how the spread of a deadly disease in the midst of a polarized information environment may be a worst-case scenario for disinformation.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


