

Rule of Life
Practicing the Way
How can I arrange my life to apprentice under Jesus? The Rule of Life podcast is designed to guide you in arranging your everyday life around being with and becoming like Jesus. Each season will cover one of nine ancient Practices from the Way of Jesus: Sabbath, Prayer, Fasting, Solitude, Scripture, Community, Simplicity, Generosity, and Hospitality. You’ll hear from pastors, thought leaders, and everyday apprentices of Jesus, all hosted by John Mark Comer and produced by Practicing the Way.Each season will be released alongside a Practice - a four week long experience created by Practicing the Way, designed to integrate these ancient practices into your everyday life.This work is made possible by the Circle—a growing community of givers from across the world, who care deeply about integrating spiritual formation into the church at large.To learn more about the Circle or to run a Practice with your church, community or small group, visit www.practicingtheway.org.
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Mar 17, 2026 • 1h 1min
Witness 04: Share the Good News (featuring Shaila Visser)
Shaila Visser, National Director of Alpha Canada and Global SVP for Alpha International, equips churches to invite questions about faith. She discusses patient, relational ways to share the good news. Expect stories of long-term friendships, invitational 'come and see' approaches, listening well, praying with people, and how younger generations show fresh openness to faith.

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Mar 10, 2026 • 1h 8min
Witness 03: Partner with the Holy Spirit (featuring Pete Hughes)
Pete Hughes, lead pastor at King’s Cross Church in London and church planter, shares stories from a secular context about prayer, prophecy, and healing. He explores noticing people, listening for the Spirit, and bringing supernatural practices into everyday life. Short practical steps and risky, transformative encounters are highlighted throughout.

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Mar 3, 2026 • 1h 2min
Witness 02: Practice Hospitality (featuring Drew Hyun)
Drew Hyun, founder and lead pastor of Hope Church NYC and leader in Emotionally Healthy Discipleship, talks about hospitality as relational witness. He explores becoming “good news people,” slowing down discipleship, emotional health in leaders, and using meals to bridge divides. Short, practical ideas about listening, limits, and urban hospitality pop throughout.

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Feb 24, 2026 • 1h 6min
Witness 01: Begin With Love (featuring Ger Jones)
Ger Jones, lead pastor of Vintage Church in Los Angeles who builds open, nonjudgmental spaces for seekers. He discusses how Western culture has shifted and what that means for sharing faith. Conversations cover patient, relationship-first approaches like Alpha. The episode explores barriers to belief and the long, compassionate journey toward trust and curiosity.

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Oct 28, 2025 • 1h 7min
Service 04: Where Does Service Lead? (featuring a Luminary Roundtable)
In a heartfelt roundtable discussion, Sara Miller, founder of A House on Beekman, sheds light on her mission to empower youth in the South Bronx. Alongside Charlee Tchividjian and Gabrielle Clowdus, they explore transitioning from traditional charity to kinship—instead of just serving, they emphasize building true, reciprocal relationships. They discuss the importance of listening to stories, the pitfalls of impact-driven service, and how genuine connections can redefine community support. Sara reflects on the organic growth of her ministry through open-door hospitality.

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Oct 21, 2025 • 53min
Service 03: How Do I Serve? - Part 02 (Edwin Colon)
In this engaging discussion, Edwin Colon, senior pastor of Next Step Community Church, shares his journey from kitchen Bible study to serving Brooklyn's homeless and addicted. He emphasizes the importance of living an 'interruptible' life, viewing our schedules through 'Jesus' time' to create space for service. Edwin reveals the challenges of early radical hospitality, how burnout led to learning healthy boundaries, and the need for sustainable rhythms. The conversation inspires listeners to embrace opportunities for unplanned acts of service and the beauty of a grace-filled, abundance mindset.

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Oct 14, 2025 • 1h 2min
Service 02: How Do I Serve? - Part 01 (featuring Jonathan Tremaine Thomas)
Joining the conversation is Jonathan Tremaine Thomas, an activist and pastor known for founding Civil Righteousness to promote racial justice. He dives deep into how serving in hidden ways can shape our motivations and experiences. Jonathan discusses the significance of Jesus' model for service, emphasizing transformation through love rather than pride. He shares insights on the contrast between worldly power and kingdom service, offering practical advice for incorporating hidden service into family life and everyday interactions. This thought-provoking dialogue encourages a service-centered lifestyle.

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Oct 7, 2025 • 1h 8min
Service 01: Why Do I Serve? (featuring Gary Haugen)
Gary Haugen, Founder and CEO of International Justice Mission, shares his journey of faith and service against injustice. He discusses how college teachings on love reshaped his priorities, pushing him to the front lines of poverty and violence. Haugen emphasizes the importance of proximity to truly develop compassion. He also highlights the need for spiritual formation in justice work and how peace fuels courageous service. Listeners are encouraged to engage in practical acts of service, fostering genuine compassion in their communities.

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May 27, 2025 • 50min
Community 04: What We Avoid in Community (featuring David Kim)
David Kim, Executive Pastor at Westgate Church and author of 'Made to Belong', dives deep into the nuances of community building. He discusses the importance of intentional relationships and how they require vulnerability and commitment. The conversation highlights challenges in forming genuine connections, such as balancing freedom with belonging. Kim shares insights on prioritizing community in a busy world and the transformative power of accountability in healing. His perspective invites listeners to reflect on what may be holding them back from true belonging.

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May 20, 2025 • 1h 1min
Community 03: Overcoming Shame — The Ancient Enemy of Community (featuring Dr. Curt Thompson)
Join psychiatrist and author Dr. Curt Thompson as he dives deep into the pervasive issue of shame and its impact on community relationships. He explores how shame disconnects us, drawing parallels from biblical narratives. The discussion highlights the vital role of vulnerability and confession in healing and fostering intimacy among individuals. Dr. Thompson emphasizes the power of authentic community interactions to transform shame into connection, urging us to confront our struggles together for true personal growth.


