

The Optimal Body
Dr Jen Fraboni & Dr Dom Fraboni
Join top-40 Physical Therapy Influencer, Doc Jen, and her Physical Therapy husband Dr. Dom, as they bring you the body tips and PT Pearls you need to help you understand your body, relieve your pains and restrictions, and answer your questions. Along with expert guests, the goal of The Optimal Body is to help you discover what optimal means in your own body.
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Aug 31, 2020 • 51min
27 | Evaluating Research with Biomechanist and Professor, Dr. Scott Lynn
Join us as Dr. Scott Lynn, Jen’s very own Biomechanics Ph.D. professor from California State University, Fullerton breaks down the research of biomechanics and brings us back to the individual in movement. With his background working in professional sports like baseball and golf, over 20 years of publishing and reviewing research articles and journals, Dr. Lynn has uncovered the best ways to avoid injury and optimize our movement patterns. Listen as he unleashes all of his biomechanical wisdom on how you can achieve optimal movement. Lastly, tune in as we break down what the Coba Board is, why Dr. Lynn is involved, and how his own research on this tool reveals how it can help you achieve optimal glute activation in both a squat and hinge pattern.
Free Week of the Jen Health Membership:
Looking for a movement community that gives you the plan specific to your body? Need accountability and a plan that is specific to your restrictions?! Come grab a free week of our Jen Health Membership! You'll have access to 12 plans that were all curated by Doc Jen, Dr of Physical Therapy. We make sure you get set up with the plan that will be best for your goals and the rest is laid out for you to follow! Come check it out today! You can even get a discount on your first month using code OPTIMAL at checkout!
Coba Board Discount:
Get your own Coba Board to start building that booty! Use code “OPTIMAL” at checkout!
What You Will Learn in this interview with Dr. Scott Lynn: @drsklynn
04:35 – Dr. Lynn’s approach in the classroom - Why it is effective for both students and teachers
06:51 – How human movement is still unknown and a mystery to us
09:29 – How Dr. Lynn became interested in biomechanics and human movement - Why your job
should be more than the paycheck
15:30 – How long Dr. Lynn has been researching and the differences he's noticed over time
20:31 – How to decipher research and its reliability - How “messy” human beings are
24:02 – Why the “best” exercise or movement pattern doesn't exist - Why movement is individual
25:51 – Dr. Lynn explaining FMS theory (functional magnetic stimulation) and why he studied it
31:37 – What Dr. Lyn found researching FMS - Why variability in exercise is necessary
40:26 – What the Coba Board is and how Dr. Lynn got involved with it
About Dr. Scott Lynn:
Dr. Scott K. Lynn received his Bio- PhD, MSc in Orthopedic Biomechanics at Queen's University, Canada. He received his Post-Doctoral Fellowship in Spine Biomechanics at the University of Waterloo, Canada. Currently, he is a professor in Kinesiology (Biomechanics) at California State University, Fullerton. Dr. Lynn is also the Director of Research & Education for the Center for Sport Performance at California State University Fullerton. He is the creator of the video analysis software Swing Catalyst (Sport Technology company focusing on Golf and Baseball biomechanics). Dr. Lynn has been published by many peer reviewed research articles and book chapters related to golf biomechanics, exercise biomechanics & rehabilitation. Journals published in include: Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research, Strength and Conditioning Journal, International Journal of Golf Science Journal of Sports Rehabilitation, Clinical Biomechanics, Journal of Science and Medicine in Sports Human Movement Science, Journal of Sports Science and Medicine, Medicine and Science of Sports and Exercise Journal of Electromyography, and Kinesiologist.
Items mentioned:
Coba Board
Dr. Scott Lynn’s golf and baseball video analysis software
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Aug 24, 2020 • 25min
26 | Gluteal Amnesia: How to Actually Get Your Butt to Activate
Want to learn how to activate your glutes and grow that booty? Been told you’re more “quad dominant”? Feel more quads, low back, or hamstrings when you workout? Tune in as we explain how to truly activate your glutes and break down what those terms mean. Listen as we explain the biggest mechanical leaks when deadlifting and how to improve your form. Feel like you still can’t get that correct form? Tune in to learn how the Coba Board gives you the exact external cues you may be missing in order to get that perfect deadlift within your own body. Then, don’t forget to catch the YouTube as well as we review other common exercises to perfect your form and maximize those glute gains.
Free Week of the Jen Health Membership:
Looking for a movement community that gives you the plan specific to your body? Need accountability and a plan that is specific to your restrictions?! Come grab a free week of our Jen Health Membership! You'll have access to 12 plans that were all curated by Doc Jen, Dr of Physical Therapy. We make sure you get set up with the plan that will be best for your goals and the rest is laid out for you to follow! Come check it out today! You can even get a discount on your first month using code OPTIMAL at checkout!
Coba Board Discount:
Get your own Coba Board to start building that booty! Use code “OPTIMAL” at checkout for 10% off!
What You Will Learn in this episode:
01:56 – What “quad dominant” and “glute dominate” mean
04:14 – Why hinge patterns are so important
05:11 – What the Coba Board is and how it promotes “external cues”
07:08 – Most common problems that occur during a hip hinge - How it creates injury
14:18 – Dr. Dom narrates as Dr. Jen demonstrates the wrong way to deadlift
18:18 – How the Coba Board helps correct these problems
20:56 – Verbal external cues on correct deadlift form
To Watch the PT Pearl on YouTube, click here: https://youtu.be/j8NsgrOk0Lk
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Aug 19, 2020 • 40min
25 | Exploring Yoga with Physical Therapist Lara Heimann
Listen in as Lara Heimann, doctor of physical therapy and yoga educator, explains how brain mapping changed her yoga practice. She outlines her LYT methods when teaching yoga instructors, and how bringing it back to the basics can strengthen your practice. Tune in as she explains why functional movement, mobility, and core integration are more important than getting that next yoga pose. She also explains what her program entails and how you can become a more efficient yoga practitioner and/or teacher.
Free Week of the Jen Health Membership:
Looking for a movement community that gives you the plan specific to your body? Need accountability and a plan that is specific to your restrictions?! Come grab a free week of our Jen Health Membership! You'll have access to 12 plans that were all curated by Doc Jen, Dr of Physical Therapy. We make sure you get set up with the plan that will be best for your goals and the rest is laid out for you to follow! Come check it out today! You can even get a discount on your first month using code OPTIMAL at checkout!
Strong Coffee Discount:
We also mention Strong Coffee throughout the episode. To get your next quality latte for a discount using code “OPTIMAL15” at checkout!
What You Will Learn in this interview with Lara Heimann: @lara.heimann
02:26 – Lara’s initial introduction to yoga and what brought on her passion for it
04:00 – How Lara’s family background impacted her mind body relationship
06:51 – Lara’s principle with neurology and brain mapping - How it relates to your yoga practice
11:25 – How yoga creates mindfulness that, in turn, creates a healthier lifestyle
13:00 – How neural development, while practicing PT, changed Lara’s yoga practice - LYT Method
19:36 – Common injuries due to different practices - Understanding movement patterns and strength
24:49 – How Lara approaches poses in her classes - Why functional movement, mobility, and core
integration are emphasized
33:31 – What Lara’s online yoga teacher training program entails
About Laura Heimann:
Lara is the founder of Movement by Lara. An international yoga leader, she has combined her background in physical therapy with her love of yoga to create the LYT Method. Many know her as “Yoga Mama” for the endless love, gratitude, and guidance that she has for all of her students and teachers. She developed the LYT Method to address the deficiencies and imbalances of our modern lives and limited movement patterns. Lara honed her LYT Method through 25 years of practice and more than a decade teaching tens of thousands of students internationally during workshops, training, and retreats. Her mission is to help everyone find freedom through smarter, safer, and more conscious movement patterns so they can then uplift others. She leads teacher training certifications online and in person at her studio, YogaStream, in Princeton, NJ. Movement has always been Lara’s favorite form of medicine, beginning with her early years as an athlete and dancer. She graduated from Duke University with a BS in Biological Anthropology and Anatomy and a MA in Physical Therapy. When she is not on her mat, she is out hiking with her dogs, traveling with her family, and mixing it up in the kitchen as a natural foods vegan chef. Lara’s personal mission is to help her students find their source of inner strength. She frequents top-tier media as an anatomy and yoga expert and presents at yoga festivals, spreading the philosophy of smart, strong, sustainable yoga and compassionate living.
Items mentioned in this episode include:
Lara’s Website: https://lytyoga.com/
Lara’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lara.heimann/?hl=en
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FREE Week of the Jen Health Membership
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Aug 17, 2020 • 24min
24 | Shin Splints: What Is It and Why Do We Get It?
Have a history with shin splints? Like to run, hike, or just have a real passion for walking the dog but can’t go on because of that pain in the shin? Listen as we explain what shin splints, or medial tibial stress syndrome, are and how you can combat it. We explain the differences between shin splints and other injuries and how they may feel similar. Then we dive into tools you can utilize to discover what is happening within your body. Then listen as we walk you through different exercises that will help you avoid shin splint pain when paired with consistency.
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Looking for a movement community that gives you the plan specific to your body? Need accountability and a plan that is specific to your restrictions?! Come grab a free week of our Jen Health Membership! You'll have access to 12 plans that were all curated by Doc Jen, Dr of Physical Therapy. We make sure you get set up with the plan that will be best for your goals and the rest is laid out for you to follow! Come check it out today! You can even get a discount on your first month using code OPTIMAL at checkout!
What You Will Learn in this episode:
00:51 – What shin splints or medial tibial stress syndrome is
03:31 – What the difference is between shin splints and anterior compartment syndrome
05:08 – What the difference is between shin splints and posterior tibial tendon dysfunction
08:01 – How you modify your workouts so you can avoid shin splints - What you should NEVER do
10:04 – Why assessing yourself, or getting assessed, is so important - Where to assess
14:31 – Exercises to help avoid shin splints
19:44 – How to strengthen your muscles eccentrically - Why its important
22:26 – Why ankle mobility helps avoid shin splints
To Watch the PT Pearl on YouTube, click here: https://youtu.be/6IGeHX_5OSI
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FREE Plantar Fasciitis Guide!
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Aug 12, 2020 • 56min
23 | Overcoming Chronic Pain and Holistic Rehab with Matt Erb
Experience pain on a daily basis? Don’t understand the differences between chronic and acute pain? Join us as we dive into these terms and what it really means to have pain. We also explain how your beliefs about the pain you experience can change the way your body receives it. Listen as we break down methods for you to ease the pain within your own body. Then later, listen to Matt Erb explain why he transitioned from a doctor of physical therapy using traditional methods to a more integrated approach. Listen as he breaks down what it really means to be an integrated or biopsychosocial therapist and how a session with one would look. Join him as he takes you through simple breathing exercises to become more aware of your body. Lastly, he explains how trauma can cause pain within the body and why.
Free Week of the Jen Health Membership:
Looking for a movement community that gives you the plan specific to your body? Need accountability and a plan that is specific to your restrictions?! Come grab a free week of our Jen Health Membership! You'll have access to 12 plans that were all curated by Doc Jen, Dr of Physical Therapy. We make sure you get set up with the plan that will be best for your goals and the rest is laid out for you to follow! Come check it out today! You can even get a discount on your first month using code OPTIMAL at checkout!
Strong Coffee Discount:
We also mention Strong Coffee throughout the episode. To get your next quality latte for a discount using code “OPTIMAL15” at checkout!
What You Will Learn in this episode:
PT Pearl:
Explaining Pain Perception and How to Approach Your Acute or Chronic Pain
01:06 – The difference between acute and chronic pain - Why they occur
04:42 – How to approach your acute pain
08:49 – How to approach chronic pain - Why pain can be good
14:54 – Things that do NOT cause back pain - Why trigger points do NOT determine pain
17:13 – What fills up your “bucket” that could cause chronic pain - How to address it
21:02 – How to change your beliefs on your pain
22:15 – Why, with chronic pain, doing movements that give you pain may be more beneficial
To Watch the PT Pearl on YouTube, click here: https://youtu.be/UYXrqQrrq2w
Interview with Matt Erb:
26:27 – What inspired Matt to become a physical therapist with the beliefs he has today
28:01 – What caused Matt to transition from a traditional practice to a more integrated practice
30:26 – What integrated physical therapy is and what that means
33:17 – How you can find an integrated therapist under “biopsychosocial” - How a session looks
37:13 – How Matt evaluates his patients and changes the perception of him “fixing” them
40:05 – Breathing exercise with Matt to become more aware with your body
44:23 – How Matt leads people into the awareness of breath
47:31 – How trauma and early stress exposure can play a role in someone’s journey
About Matt Erb:
Matt Erb is a physical therapist, originally trained at the University of Iowa, and currently based out of Tucson. He is a Senior Faculty member, Clinical Supervisor, and a Clinical Program Lead for The Center for Mind-Body Medicine, Washington D.C. He has a clinical practice with Simons Physical Therapy, Tucson AZ, that focuses on mind-body integrated care. Matt is also Founder of Embody Your Mind, specializing in high quality writing, teaching, and consulting in integrative and mind-body medicine topics.
For full show notes on Matt Erb and all other information, links, and resources from episode, visit: https://jen.health/podcast/23 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Aug 10, 2020 • 1h 4min
22 | Plantar Fasciitis Pearl and Myofascial Release with Jill Miller
Do you have pain in the bottom of your feet? Been diagnosed with Plantar Fasciitis? Join us as we talk about the Dos and Don’ts for Plantar Fasciitis and how long you should expect for the pain to subside. We also explain what Plantar Fasciopathy is and who may be at risk. Later, we talk to Jill Miller, founder of Tune Up Fitness Worldwide and empress of massage therapy, about different massage therapy techniques and tools. We also touch upon her personal journey towards regenerative fitness and how she created it. Come listen to her explain myofascial release, the truths and myths about it, and how you can manipulate fascia to decrease pain.
Free Week of the Jen Health Membership:
Looking for a movement community that gives you the plan specific to your body? Need accountability and a plan that is specific to your restrictions?! Come grab a free week of our Jen Health Membership! You'll have access to 12 plans that were all curated by Doc Jen, Dr of Physical Therapy. We make sure you get set up with the plan that will be best for your goals and the rest is laid out for you to follow! Come check it out today! You can even get a discount on your first month using code OPTIMAL at checkout!
What You Will Learn in this episode:
PT Pearl:
Plantar Fasciitis and What To Do
00:59 – What Plantar Fasciitis, how do you get it, and when it may be presented
03:04 – What Plantar Fasciopathy is and what it means - What a heel spur is
04:22 – Who is at risk? - Why you may not even know you have it
06:46 – Common techniques that do not work for plantar fasciitis
12:40 – Techniques that do help for plantar fasciitis long term - Finding the internal source of pain
15:39 – 2 example exercises that help plantar fasciitis
19:10 – How long it will take to relieve your pain - What to avoid during the healing process
To Watch the PT Pearl on YouTube, click here: https://youtu.be/kT5MoAEfr-E
Interview with Jill Miller:
23:53 – Jill Miller’s background with fitness, her business, and her content available
25:14 – Regenerative fitness and what that means
26:08 – What kind of massage tools Jill uses to deepen this practice - What led her to these tools
32:45 – What fascia is and how can you manipulate it
37:17 – How long soft tissue massage lasts - The benefits found in long term routines
41:42 – What self myofascial release is and the truth behind it - What you should be targeting
46:36 – How your nervous system relates to muscle knots or trigger points
52:13 – Why smashing your muscles with hard tools may be harmful to your body
54:58 – How breathwork and position may be incorporated with the use of these massage tools
56:30 – When rolling out is the most beneficial and why
To see Jill Miller's full bio and links to her book and website, head over to the complete show notes here: https://jen.health/podcast/22 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jul 29, 2020 • 55min
21 | Move Lymph to Improve Mobility and Diet Tips with Toni
How much water are you drinking? How often do you bounce? Join us as we talk about the Lymphatic system and how you can help regulate the fluids within your body. We cover some nodule locations and neuro-lymphatic points to help you quickly activate and regulate that lymphatic system. We also explore dry brushing and how it positively affects our systems and overall moods. Then, we get some insight on nutrition and food tracking from registered dietician and business owner, Toni Marinucci. While getting her Masters degree in nutrition and dietetics, Toni struggled to have that healthy balance with her nutrition; only focusing on how she looked rather than how she felt. Dating the same kind of guy? Have the habit of emotionally eating? Listen to how Toni makes the connection between romantic relationships and emotional eating habits and how you can better your relationship with your food.
Free Week of the Jen Health Membership:
Looking for a movement community that gives you the plan specific to your body? Need accountability and a plan that is specific to your restrictions?! Come grab a free week of our Jen Health Membership! You'll have access to 12 plans that were all curated by Doc Jen, Dr of Physical Therapy. We make sure you get set up with the plan that will be best for your goals and the rest is laid out for you to follow! Come check it out today! You can even get a discount on your first month using code OPTIMAL at checkout!
Strong Coffee Discount:
We mention Strong Coffee in this episode. To get your next quality latte for a discount using code “OPTIMAL15” at checkout
What You Will Learn in this episode:
PT Pearl:
Improve Your Lymphatic System, Improve Your Mobility
01:03 – What the Lymphatic System is, big nodule locations, and why it's important to understand
05:48 – Breathwork importance for fluid clearance
07:35 – What fluids are you drinking? Water importance
09:08 – What types of foods do you normally eat? Nutrient dense food and their importance
10:47 – Bouncing and how it improves your fluid regulation
12:09 – Neuro-lymphatic points - What that means and how to activate them
15:20 – Dry brushing, how to do it, and why it helps your Lymphatic System
18:42 – Keep moving! Its role in your fluid regulation and healthy living
To Watch the PT Pearl on YouTube, click here: https://youtu.be/48WR8YyXUBg
Interview with Toni Marinucci:
22:52 – Toni’s nutrition journey and why she became a registered dietician
27:05 – How to find a healthy relationship with your food foundation
29:42 – Strategies on how to maintain balance in your nutritional habits
33:26 – Food tracking and how individual it is
37:34 – Emotional eating - Why it's not good or bad and independent of you
39:40 – How nutritional habits and romantic relationships relate
44:02 – How nutritional habits depend on hormones, body acceptance, and lifestyle changes
46:52 – Diet myths
47:28 – Some carbohydrates Toni recommends for your diet
51:23 – Key points to take away for your nutrition journey
Items mentioned:
Toni’s Healthy Living Nutrition Course
Toni’s Instagram
Toni’s Podcast
Dr. Jen Dry Brushing IG
Dr. Jen Dry Brushing Youtube
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To learn more about Toni Marinucci, head over to the website for full show notes!
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Jul 22, 2020 • 1h 2min
20 | Neuro Re-education Pearl and Anti-Racism in Healthcare with Dr. Jen Hutton
How long has it been since you’ve rolled, crawled, or squatted?! In this episode, we explain neuromuscular re-education and why these movement patterns are important. Dead Bugs? Bridges? What are these? Join us as we explain these exercises and how they will benefit your everyday life. Then, we interview Dr. Jennifer Hutton, aka, Dr. JPop, a pediatric physical therapist, who practices a holistic approach by maintaining open communication with her patients. She also mentions her experiences with systemic racism in the medical field and how you can combat uncomfortably in today’s movement for black and indigenous lives across America.
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Free Week of the Jen Health Membership:
Looking for a movement community that gives you the plan specific to your body? Need accountability and a plan that is specific to your restrictions?! Come grab a free week of our Jen Health Membership! You'll have access to 12 plans that were all curated by Doc Jen, Dr of Physical Therapy. We make sure you get set up with the plan that will be best for your goals and the rest is laid out for you to follow! Come check it out today! You can even get a discount on your first month using code OPTIMAL at checkout!
What You Will Learn:
PT Pearl:
Importance of Rolling, Crawling, and Squatting
00:43 – What Neuromuscular Re-education is, what it means to you, and how it relates to children
03:45 – Re-training fundamental developmental stage 1 - Back and Front laying
07:00 – Re-training fundamental developmental stage 2 - Rolling
10:12 – Re-training fundamental developmental stage 3 - Quadruped Position
11:03 – Re-training fundamental developmental stage 4 - Crawling
15:10 – Re-training fundamental developmental stage 5 - Half Kneeling
17:16 – Re-training fundamental developmental stage 6 - Squatting
18:41 – Re-training fundamental developmental stage 7 - Standing / Walking
21:08 – Exercises meant to help you re-educate your neuromuscular system - Dead Bugs / Bridges
To Watch the PT Pearl on YouTube, click here: https://youtu.be/h1HYDnjnnPs
Interview with Dr. Jennifer Hutton “Jpop”: @dr.jpop
30:22 – Jen’s life journey that lead her to Pediatrics
33:10 – Why breaking the label of disabled people not being able to do certain things is important
37:40 – What it means to be health provider with the socioeconomic inequalities in America
40:14 – Why taking socioeconomic factors into consideration while diagnosing is important
45:15 – What “microaggression” means and how to address it
46:26 – Dr. Jen’s personal experience with microaggression in her profession
50:06 – How America has institutionalized racism and racial inequalities within the medical field
57:33 – How to be anti-racist and support the movement
Dr. Jennifer Hutton’s Website: https://drjpop.com/
Dr. Jennifer Hutton’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.jpop/
Dr. Jennifer Hutton’s Webinar “Anti-racism and Allyship for Rehab and Movement Professionals”: https://www.crowdcast.io/e/Anti-Racism&AllyshipforRehabandMovementProfessionals/register
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Jul 15, 2020 • 49min
19 | Wrist Pain Pearl and Meal Prep Guidance with MeowMeix
Wrist pain during push-ups and planks? They shouldn’t be. In this episode, we’ll break down the common wrist diagnoses and help guide you into what you can start doing to hopefully help relieve some of those symptoms! Then, we get into an insightful interview with our friend, Amanda Rocchio, more commonly known as MeowMeix on Instagram. After recovering from anorexia, Amanda dove into nutrition to learn how to start truly fueling her body. Through the process, she’s become an expert in nutrition and meal prep. She currently helps educate millions of people all over the world on easy ways to start prepping food and understanding complex nutrition.
Strong Coffee Discount:
We mention Strong Coffee in this episode. To get your next quality latte for a discount using code “OPTIMAL15” at checkout.
Free Week of the Jen Health Membership:
Looking for a movement community that gives you the plan specific to your body? Need accountability and a plan that is specific to your restrictions?! Come grab a free week of our Jen Health Membership! You'll have access to 12 plans that were all curated by Doc Jen, Dr of Physical Therapy. We make sure you get set up with the plan that will be best for your goals and the rest is laid out for you to follow! Come check it out today! You can even get a discount on your first month using code OPTIMAL at checkout!
What You Will Learn:
PT Pearl:
Why You're Having Wrist Discomfort
00:46 - Common diagnoses related to the wrist and why they develop
03:00 - How to check your wrist support and mobility
07:28 - Passive and active stretches to help with your wrist mobility
10:35 - What your wrist problems may be a product of - How nerves come into play
13:38 - Why being active in your entire body is important
To Watch the PT Pearl on YouTube, click here: https://youtu.be/cBJDCB_31c0
Interview with Amanda Rocchio:
18:07 - Amanda’s Introduction and her nutrition background
20:21 - Why Amanda began sharing nutrition content and dedicating her life to healthier eating
22:47 - How Amanda got help for her eating disorder - Her journey with it
28:55 - What “healthy living” looks like
30:56 - What oils are good and bad for your diet and why - Omega 3 and 6 explanation
33:03 - Food language and its importance
35:19 - What “balance” looks like in your everyday foods
38:25 - Some steps to get you started on meal prepping - How to address possible failure
41:42 - Some healthy food tips to keep in mind
43:45 - Some of Amanda’s protein rich food recommendations
45:55 - How Amanda stays knowledgeable on healthy foods and nutrition
About Amanda Rocchio:
Amanda Meixner is a meal prep maven, nutrition guru, and social media influencer living in Los Angeles, California. After struggling with an eating disorder in high school, she realized that being healthy was about fueling your body with the right foods, not starving yourself. From that point onward, she started educating herself on all things nutrition and began crafting her innovative meal prep techniques. Today, Amanda inspires more than 1 million followers every day with her simple recipes, healthy swaps, words of encouragement, and hacks for maintaining a healthy diet.
Thank you so much for checking out this episode of The Optimal Body Podcast!
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Jul 8, 2020 • 60min
18 | Tendonitis vs Tendinopathy Pearl and Natalie Jill's Journey Through Back Pain and More!
Why do our joints hurt?! What is tendonitis, tendonosis, and tendinopathy?! Tune into this episode with Doc Jen and Dr Dom as they dive into what the differences are between these and how to address them! After this we interview Natalie Jill Hollan, fat loss expert and author. Natalie opens up about her journey with chronic pain, her two surgeries on her back, a distal bicep repair and how being an influencer and author in the wellness space has impacted her experience.
Vivobarefoot Shoe Discount:
Improve your feet = improve your body! Free your feet of the shoe prison they were previously living in. These are the only shoes Doc Jen & Dr. Dom wear daily when walking and working out. They have drastically improved the function of Doc Dom’s feet and allowed Doc Jen’s toes to improve functional mobility and decrease the big toe from drifting into the other toes! Get 15% OFF VivoBarefoot Shoes with code “TOB” at checkout and finally feels like to FREE YOUR FEET!!
Free Week of the Jen Health Membership:
Looking for a movement community that gives you the plan specific to your body? Need accountability and a plan that is specific to your restrictions?! Come grab a free week of our Jen Health Membership! You'll have access to 12 plans that were all curated by Doc Jen, Dr of Physical Therapy. We make sure you get set up with the plan that will be best for your goals and the rest is laid out for you to follow! Come check it out today! You can even get a discount on your first month using code OPTIMAL at checkout!
What You Will Learn:
PT Pearl: Tendinopathy vs Tendonitis | What it is and what to do about it
00:53 - Where you might find Tendonitis, Tendinosis, or Tendinopathy
01:35 - What the difference is between Tendonitis,Tendinosis, and Tendinopathy
04:34 - What the difference is between a tendon and a ligament
07:59 - 3 stages of Tendinopathy
11:03 - What does it mean to take off load? - Why mobility and a therapist are important
20:20 - How to be realistic about your healing process
21:16 - VivoBarefoot Shoes and how they can help you
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Interview with Natalie Jill:
29:04 - Natalie’s involvement with health and wellness
31:09 - How Natalie would create vision boards and apply it to her life
35:30 - Natalie’s experience with competition and injury
40:05 - Natalie’s experience with back surgery and post-surgery - How she manages her injury
48:08 - Some exercises Natalie does for her own optimal body - How she reforms her injuries
52:28 - Why Natalie believes excuses should not hold you back - Her journey with hypnosis
57:00 - Where to find Natalie
About Natalie Jill:
Natalie Jill is a Fat Loss Expert turned high performance coach who helps women Age In Reverse and level up their lives! At age 48, she herself has rebuilt and created everything from nothing three times over!
She is gifted at helping women uncover what is holding them back from results and guiding them to uncover and then master their true passion and callings for a life that THRIVES.
In the process, Natalie Jill has created a globally recognized brand with well over 2.5 million social media followers worldwide, two best selling books, recognition from Forbes and Greatist several years running as one of the top health and wellness influencers in the world.
Some of her NEWEST accomplishments:
She has now released her NEWEST BOOK “Aging in Reverse” NEW BOOK: Aging in Reverse: www.age-in-reverse.com and founded the community Aging in Reverse www.aginginreverse.me
She is the creator and host of the top ranking podcast Leveling Up Creating Everything from Nothing.
Natalie Jill ’s Website: https://www.nataliejillfitness.com/
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