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United Nations Library & Archives Geneva
Are you curious about the power of international cooperation? And how it affects our future? Tune in to the #NextPagePod, the podcast of the UN Library & Archives Geneva, designed to advance the conversation on multilateralism.
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Jun 11, 2021 • 57min
Harnessing economics for humanitarian action with Gilles Carbonnier
In this episode, Gilles Carbonnier joined the #NextPagePod for a conversation about applying economic tools and methods to improve humanitarian responses to armed conflicts and disasters.
Carbonnier is a specialist in the domain of humanitarian response with expertise on several levels. Carbonnier is a Professor of Development Economics at the Graduate Institute whose research focuses mainly on the economics of humanitarian crises and the Vice-President of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC). Carbonnier also has vast experience as a practitioner in the field of humanitarian missions, in countries including Iraq and Egypt. In this episode, the economist explains how these levels of humanitarian work corporate and especially how economics can contribute to a better understanding of the side effects and contributions of humanitarians.
Carbonnier also explained economics can bring valuable contributions to solving armed conflicts in interdisciplinary dialogue with phycologists, anthropologists, historians, and political scientists.
Resources:
Follow Carbonnier on Twitter: https://twitter.com/gcarbonniericrc
Read more about Carbonnier: https://www.icrc.org/en/person/gilles-carbonnier
Humanitarian Economics: War, Disaster, and the Global Aid Market: https://bit.ly/3xbYsqG
Rebel Economies: Warlords, Insurgents, Humanitarians: https://bit.ly/3vc75Qw
Reason, emotion, compassion: can altruism survive professionalisation in the humanitarian sector: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25439560/
The Theory of Moral Sentiments by Adam Smith: https://www.adamsmith.org/the-theory-of-moral-sentiments
Households in Conflict Network: https://hicn.org/
Cash Learning Partnership: https://www.calpnetwork.org/
Centre for Economic Policy Research: https://cepr.org/
Transcript: Here
Content:
Speakers: Gilles Carbonnier & Francesco Pisano
Host: Katrine Lyngso
Editor & Producer: Katrine Lyngso
Social media designs: Katrine Lyngso
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

May 28, 2021 • 31min
Diversity in youth voice with Alicia Joho #KnowledgeRising
Why does multilateralism matter to young people? And how do we create inclusive and diverse participation of young people in multilateral efforts? In this episode, Natalie Alexander poses these questions and many more to Alicia Joho as a part of our #KnowledgeRising series.
Alicia Joho is a student studying a Dual Master's degree in International Relations, Human Rights and Humanitarian Action at the London School of Economics and Sciences Po, a former Swiss youth delegate to the United Nations, Communications Director at STEAR and an intern at the UN's gender unit of the Executive Office of the Secretary-General.
Tune in to this conversation about diversity in youth voice, accounts of how young people are already shaping the future of multilateralism and getting beyond "token" representation.
Resources:
Follow Alicia Joho on Twitter: https://twitter.com/aliciajoho
Find Alicia Joho on Linkdin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliciajoho/?originalSubdomain=ch
Youth Delegate Program: www.youthrep.ch
Find the Youth Delegate Program Guide: here
STEAR: https://www.stearthinktank.com/
Transcript: Here
Content:
Speakers: Natalie Alexander & Alicia Joho
Host: Natalie Alexander
Editor & Producer: Katrine Lyngso
Social media designs: Katrine Lyngso
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

May 14, 2021 • 30min
Invisible history and the Institution of International Order with Prof. Alanna O’Malley
The historian Professor Alanna O’Malley from Leiden University, joined us at The Next Page to tell us more about her work as Chair of United Nations Studies in Peace and Justice and to explore some of the themes in the cross-disciplinary volume she co-edited on The Institution of International Order, tracing the period from the 1920s to the 1970s and spanning the transition from the League of Nations to the United Nations. She discusses the history of internationalism and the dynamic, complex forces at play around these two organisations as global platforms. Professor O’Malley also talks of her current research on the invisible history of the UN and the Global South.
Resources:
Professor O'Malley's bio: https://bit.ly/2QdzN58
Tracing the Invisible History of the Global South and the United Nations: https://bit.ly/2RR1X6m
The Institution of International Order: From the League of Nations to the United Nations: https://bit.ly/3uF8MGR
TedTalk: "The United Nations: From Blue Helmets to Blue Skies" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng2TltnSDmU
The Guardians: The League of Nations and the Crisis of Empire by Susan Pedersen: https://bit.ly/3hppl5F
The Parliament of Man: The Past, Present, and Future of the United Nations by Paul Kennedy: https://bit.ly/2QelKMK
The End of Empire and the Ideological Origins of the United Nations by Mark M. Mazower: https://bit.ly/3borbjC
Transcript here
Content:
Speakers: Amy Smith & Professor Alanna O'Malley
Host: Amy Smith
Editor & Producer: Katrine Lyngso
Social media designs: Katrine Lyngso
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Apr 30, 2021 • 41min
Dr. Elizabeth Sáenz on the interconnectivity of the Sustainable Development Goals
Dr. Elizabeth Sáenz joined The Next Page for a conversation on the interconnection between the Sustainable Development Goals. As a pediatrician and liaison officer for the United Nations Organization on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) at the WHO, Dr. Sáenz specializes in drug dependence treatment, with a special focus on prevention, treatment, and rehabilitation.
Speaking on this issue from the perspective of the SDGs, Dr. Sáenz explores how quality education, gender equality and even decent work and economic growth are all intertwined within this context. She highlights the need for greater compassion and understanding, the role that everyone can play towards raising awareness, and the vastly multi-faceted and multi-disciplinary nature of the ongoing efforts in prevention and treatment. Additionally, she speaks on the unique but collaborative roles of the UNODC and the WHO in advancing the conversation on this topic, through the lens of justice and health.
A fascinating conversation that shines a light on the interconnectedness of the Sustainable Development Goals, and the role that everyone can play, we hope this episode brings you new insights and perspectives.
Resources
Twitter – Dr. Sáenz: https://twitter.com/drelisaenz?lang=en
UNODC and the SDGs: https://www.unodc.org/unodc/about-unodc/sustainable-development-goals/sdgs-index.html
UNODC Drug Prevention and Treatment: https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/drug-prevention-and-treatment/index.html
UNODC 2021-2025 Strategy: https://www.unodc.org/documents/commissions/CND/CND_Sessions/CND_63Reconvened/ECN72020_CRP22_ECN152020_CRP3_V2007057.pdf
UNODC Strategic Vision for Africa 2030: https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/strategy/africa-vision.html
Transcript here
Content
Speakers: Karen Lee & Elizabeth Sáenz
Host/Editor: Karen Lee
Producers: Karen Lee & Natalie Alexander
Social media designs: Katrine Lyngso
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Apr 16, 2021 • 37min
Dr. Katharina Rietzler on recovering Women’s Thought in International Relations
In this episode, historian, author and researcher Katharina Rietzler joins Francesco Pisano to talk about her new book called Women's International Thought: A new history. Dr Rietzler co-wrote the book after her research revealed that numerous women in history have researched and published in the field of international public affairs but only a few were present in the documented history of international relations as a disciple and in international thought.
Although the author pays tribute to otherwise marginalised female thinkers in the book, she also stressed the importance of not predetermining, romanticising and generalising women’s intersectional contributions purely on their gender.
Tune in to hear this intriguing discussion about rethinking the patriarchal history of international relations by challenging existing paradigms through the recovery of female voices.
Resources
Dr. Katharina Rietzler - Profile: https://bit.ly/3s9YGfc
Follow Katharina Rietzler on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kathistory
Women's International Thought: A New History: (book) https://bit.ly/3dNPXKc
Read the book through UN Library Geneva
The Leverhulme Project on Women’s Thought: https://bit.ly/3wQRzf7
The Leverhulme project publication: https://whit.web.ox.ac.uk/home#/
Transcript
Available here
Content
Speaker: Katharina Rietzler & Francesco Pisano
Host: Natalie Alexander
Producer/Editor: Katrine Lyngsø
Image: Fran Monks
Social media designs: Katrine Lyngsø
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Apr 12, 2021 • 10min
Andrea Bellini on the role of art in multilateralism and intercultural dialogue - Excerpt in English
In this brief excerpt of Episode 48 – originally recorded in French – Kelly Le Normand speaks with Andrea Bellini.
Director of the Centre d’Art Contemporain Genève, artistic director of the Biennale of Moving Images, curator and contemporary art critic, Andrea Bellini shares his experience of international Geneva and offers us a unique perspective on multilateralism. His exhibitions and publications address major current themes – racial question, feminism, gender identity – and invite intercultural dialogue. He describes art as an indispensable tool for a better understanding of the world and a sharing of universal values.
Resources
Centre d’Art Contemporain Genève: https://centre.ch
Digital platform of the Centre: https://5e.centre.ch/en/
UNOG Art collection: https://bit.ly/3d0F9rS
MIRE Project: https://fcac.ch/commande-publique/projet-mire/
Transcript
Available here
Content
Speakers: Andrea Bellini
Host/Editor: Kelly Le Normand
Producers: Karen Lee & Natalie Alexander
Image: Mathilde Agius
Social media designs: Natalie Alexander
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Mar 29, 2021 • 39min
Andrea Bellini sur le rôle de l’art dans le multilatéralisme et le dialogue interculturel
Dans ce nouvel épisode de The Next Page, Kelly Le Normand accueille Andrea Bellini.
Directeur du Centre d’Art Contemporain Genève, directeur artistique de la Biennale de l’Image en mouvement, curateur et critique d’art contemporain, Andrea Bellini partage son expérience de la Genève internationale et nous propose un point de vue inédit sur le multilatéralisme. Ses expositions et publications abordent les grandes thématiques actuelles – question raciale, féminisme, identité sexuelle – et invitent au dialogue interculturel. Il décrit l’art comme un outil indispensable à une meilleure compréhension du monde et à un partage de valeurs universelles.
Ressources
Centre d’Art Contemporain Genève : https://centre.ch
Plateforme digitale du Centre : https://5e.centre.ch/fr/
Collection d’œuvres d’art de l’ONUG : https://bit.ly/3d0F9rS
Projet MIRE : https://fcac.ch/commande-publique/projet-mire/
Transcription: https://libraryresources.unog.ch/c.php?g=673332&p=4880979&t=18232
Contenu
Intervenant: Andrea Bellini
Animatrice: Kelly Le Normand
Réalisation et montage: Karen Lee, Natalie Alexander & Kelly Le Normand
Image: Mathilde Agius
Enregistré et produit à la Bibliothèque des Nations Unies à Genève

Mar 19, 2021 • 32min
Dira Fabrian on the art of diplomacy & finding common ground #KnowledgeRising
In episode 47, Dira Fabrian joins our Knowledge Rising series to reflect on the role of young diplomats in multilateralism today. After a decade serving as a diplomat for her home country of Indonesia, she shares what she's learned in these past years, as well as her advice for young diplomats entering the service in a rapidly changing global and technological landscape. She also shares what she believes is important to make multilateralism more inclusive, and what it takes to find common ground while embracing our diversity.
Resources
The Women's Power Index, by the Women and Foreign Policy Program at the Council on Foreign Relations: https://www.cfr.org/article/womens-power-index
UN-Women - Facts and Figures: Leadership and Political Participation: https://www.unwomen.org/en/what-we-do/leadership-and-political-participation/facts-and-figures
Watch the Gamelan being played at the UN Library & Archives Geneva: https://fb.watch/4gxLE-pPEE/
Find out more about the Gamelan: https://www.thoughtco.com/history-of-gamelan-195131
Transcript
Available here: https://libraryresources.unog.ch/audio/dirafabrian
Content
Speaker: Dira Fabrian
Host: Natalie Alexander
Editor/Producer: Karen Lee & Natalie Alexander
Images: Dira Fabrian
Graphics, social media designs and transcript: Natalie Alexander
Recorded & produced by the UN Library & Archives Geneva

Mar 5, 2021 • 41min
Prof. Carlos Lopes on Structural Change in Africa & Investing in Africa’s Youth
Episode 46 sees Professor Carlos Lopes return to the podcast after featuring in our very first episode back in 2019. This time, he joins us online from South Africa, to speak with our Director Francesco Pisano about his latest book: Structural Change in Africa: Misperceptions, New Narratives and Development in the 21st Century, which he authored with George Kararach.
Professor Lopes is a Professor at the Mandela School of Public Governance at the University of Cape Town, a Visiting Professor at Sciences Po, an Associate Fellow in the Africa Programme at Chatham House, and the former Executive Director of the United Nations Economic Commission for Africa, among other roles. He joins Francesco Pisano to speak about the importance of this new work, and what is necessary for Africans to change their reality through structural transformation. The book's 7 chapters aim to expand our knowledge about the African continent, and outline practical suggestions for how development in this complex, yet vibrant continent can be achieved.
Resources
Find out more about the book Structural Change in Africa: Misperceptions, New Narratives and Development in the 21st Century, which is co-authored by Carlos Lopes and George Kararach.
Professor Carlos Lopes joined us on the podcast in 2019, to discuss his book "Africa in Transformation: Economic Development in the Age of Doubt". Listen here: https://unitednationslibrarygeneva.podbean.com/e/episode-1-library-talk-african-in-transformation-with-carlos-lopes/.
To keep learning, follow Carlos Lopes on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LopesInsights
See the episode transcript here: https://bit.ly/3bZoC6T
Content
Speakers: Carlos Lopes & Francesco Pisano.
Host: Karen Lee & Natalie Alexander.
Editor & Sound Editor: Karen Lee.
Images: Carlos Lopes.
Recorded and produced at the UN Library & Archives Geneva.

Feb 19, 2021 • 29min
Dr. Filippa Lentzos on biological threats in the 21st century
Last year, 2020, marked the 45th anniversary of the Biological Weapons Convention that was negotiated at the Palais des Nations in Geneva. It was the first multilateral disarmament treaty banning an entire category of weapons of mass destruction. It prohibits the development, production, acquisition, transfer, stockpiling and use of biological and toxin weapons. Last year also saw the outbreak of a major pandemic that humanity is grappling to bring under control.
In episode 45, we meet with Dr. Filippa Lentzos, who holds a joint appointment as Senior Research Fellow at the Department of War Studies and the Department of Global Health & Social Medicine at King’s College London, and who is also a regular participant as NGO Coordinator at meetings of the Biological Weapons Convention in Geneva. Dr. Lentzos explains more about her work and her book Biological Threats in the 21st Century, sharing her thoughts on multilateralism for security in this field, providing insights on how to prepare for and respond to outbreaks of disease, and giving us glimpses of emerging technologies. Underlying the conversation is the theme of the importance of moral frameworks.
Resources
Learn more about Dr. Lentzos and her work: http://www.filippalentzos.com/
Biological Threats in the 21st Century (Book): https://bit.ly/3uhhiw2
United Nations Biological Weapons Convention: https://www.un.org/disarmament/biological-weapons
Access the episode transcript here: https://bit.ly/3qtdsxn
Content
Speakers: Dr. Filippa Lentzos and Amy Smith
Host: Amy Smith & Karen Lee
Editor/Producer: Karen Lee
Images: Dr. Filippa Lentzos
Graphics, social media designs and transcript: Karen Lee
Recorded & produced by the UN Library & Archives Geneva


