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Oct 27, 2025 • 53min
SoS 253: Josh Brahinsky and The Neuroscience of the Divine
In this engaging discussion, Josh Brahinsky, a researcher blending anthropology, psychology, and neuroscience, dives deep into the transformative effects of charismatic evangelical worship on the mind and body. He shares insights on how practices like speaking in tongues and prayer reshape sensory experiences and emotional states. Josh contrasts jhāna meditation with expressive worship, revealing their similar impacts on attention and flow. His research highlights the connection between spiritual practices and social activism, emphasizing the profound societal implications of these experiences.

Oct 7, 2025 • 44min
SoS 252: Alex Niclou and her contributions to clinical and military-focused research
Alex got her degree from the University of Notre Dame in 2022 after finishing her dissertation on the variation in brown adipose tissue thermogenesis and its effects on metabolic health markers in adults from Samoa. She is currently a postdoctoral fellow at Pennington Biomedical Research Center working on the Military Health and Nutrition Examinations Study (MHANES) (PI: Dr. Claire Berryman). In collaboration with the US Army Research Institute of Environmental Medicine, her work with MHANES examines how the interactions between environmental (i.e. temperature, altitude), behavioral (i.e. physical activity, nutrition, sleep), and physiological (i.e. body composition, energy expenditure, metabolic health markers) factors affect health and performance in active-duty service members. She frequently collaborate with colleagues on anthropological research projects focusing on the effects of physiological adaptations/adjustments to the extremes and is passionate about bringing anthropological perspectives to clinical and military-focused research.
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Find the paper discussed in this episode:
Sarma, M. S., Niclou, A. M., & Hurd, K. J. (2025). Methodologic Opportunities for Space Health Research: Integrating Biological Anthropology Methods in Human Research for Precision Space Health and Medical Data. Wilderness & Environmental Medicine, 36(1_suppl), 104S-112S. https://doi.org/10.1177/10806032251349436
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Contact Dr. Niclou: Alexandra.Niclou@pbrc.edu
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation/, Website: humbio.org, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Cara Ocobock, Co-Host, Website: sites.nd.edu/cara-ocobock/, Email:cocobock@nd.edu, Twitter:@CaraOcobock
Anahi Ruderman, SoS Co-Producer, HBA Junior Fellow
E-mail: aniruderman@gmail.com, Twitter: @ani_ruderman

Oct 2, 2025 • 44min
SoS 251: Proteomics and Human Origins: Reconstructing the Past with Palesa Madupe & Becky Ackermann
This week on the Sausage of Science, Cara sits down with two trailblazing scholars shaping the future of paleoanthropology from the African continent outward. Dr. Palesa Madupe, postdoctoral researcher at the University of Copenhagen’s Globe Institute, shares her pioneering work on enamel proteomics—reconstructing protein sequences from Paranthropus robustus and other South African hominins to unravel questions of taxonomy, sex determination, and sexual dimorphism. Joining her is Professor Becky Ackermann of the University of Cape Town, co-director of the Human Evolution Research Institute (HERI), whose influential research on evolutionary processes, phenotypic variation, and human diversity is reframing our understanding of our evolutionary story. Together, they highlight how African-led research is reshaping the global narrative of human origins, one fossil and one protein at a time.
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Find the paper discussed in this episode:
Madupe, P. P., Koenig, C., Patramanis, I., Rüther, P. L., Hlazo, N., Mackie, M., ... & Cappellini, E. (2025). Enamel proteins reveal biological sex and genetic variability in southern African Paranthropus. Science, 388(6750), 969-973. DOI: 10.1126/science.adt9539
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Contact Dr. Madupe: palesa.madupe@sund.ku.dk
Contact Dr. Ackermann: becky.ackermann@uct.ac.za
Human Evolution Research Institute (HERI) website: https://www.heriuct.co.za/
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation/, Website: humbio.org, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Cara Ocobock, Host, Website: sites.nd.edu/cara-ocobock/, Email:cocobock@nd.edu, Twitter:@CaraOcobock
Cristina Gildee, SoS Co-Producer, HBA Junior Fellow
Website: cristinagildee.org, E-mail: cgildee@uw.edu,

Sep 22, 2025 • 35min
SoS 250: Jake Aronoff's incredible journey into aging (of immune cells)
Jake Aronoff is a human biologist studying immune function and aging from an evolutionary and ecological perspective. During his PhD, he studied how stress and social inequality impacts inflammation and immunosenescence in the Philippines and US. He is currently a postdoctoral researcher at ASU studying inflammation and aging with Ben Trumble and the Tsimane Health and Life History Project. These studies focus on the development of chronic inflammation in later life (inflammaging), the links between metabolic and immune function (immunometabolism and meta-inflammation), and the relationship between infections, inflammation, and brain aging. His research also utilizes life history theory and energetic trade-offs to understand complex changes in biological functioning in later life, like the simultaneous occurrence of inflammaging and immunosenescence.
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Find the paper discussed in this episode:
Aronoff, J. E., Trumble, B. C. (2025). An evolutionary medicine and life history perspective on aging and disease: Trade-offs, hyperfunction, and mismatch, Evolution, Medicine, and Public Health, 13(1), 111–124. https://doi.org/10.1093/emph/eoaf010
Aronoff, J. E., Koning, S. M., Adair, L. S., Lee, N. R., Carba, D. B., Kuzawa, C. W., & McDade, T. W. (2024). Intimate partner violence, depression, and chronic low-grade inflammation among middle-aged women in Cebu, Philippines. American journal of human biology : the official journal of the Human Biology Council, 36(6), e24053. https://doi.org/10.1002/ajhb.24053
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and the Human Biology Association:
Facebook: facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation/, Website: humbio.org, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Chris Lynn, Co-Host Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, E-mail: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly
Anahi Ruderman, SoS Co-Producer, HBA Junior Fellow. E-mail: ruderman@cenpat-conicet.gob.ar.

Sep 16, 2025 • 44min
SoS 249: Cup, Swab, or Pad? How Collection Shapes Menstrual Biomarkers
Dr. Luisa María Rivera is a critical biocultural anthropologist whose work examines how social inequality, trauma, and structural violence shape reproductive and maternal–infant health. She integrates ethnographic research with epigenomic and other molecular approaches to trace how stress during development can reverberate across generations and to understand the implications of these findings for health policy. Luisa earned her B.A. from Harvard (2008), an M.P.H. from the University of Minnesota (2015), and a Ph.D. in Anthropology from Emory University (2022). She is currently a Neukom Postdoctoral Fellow at Dartmouth College, mentored by Dr. Zaneta Thayer (Anthropology) and Dr. Brock Christensen (Geisel School of Medicine). Her research includes long-term work in post-war communities in Guatemala and with historically marginalized communities in the United States.
Luisa previously joined the Sausage of Science “Hackademics” series in Episode 114, Dissertation Research in the Time of COVID-19.
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Find the paper discussed in this episode:
Vlasac, I. M., Stolrow, H. G., Thayer, Z. M., Christensen, B. C., & Rivera, L. (2025). DNA-based cell typing in menstrual effluent identifies cell type variation by sample collection method: toward noninvasive biomarker development for women’s health. Epigenetics, 20(1), 2453275. https://doi.org/10.1080/15592294.2025.2453275
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Contact Luisa: E-mail: Luisa.Rivera@dartmouth.edu website: https://luisamariarivera.com/ Google Scholar
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation/, Website: humbio.org, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Chris Lynn, Host
Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, E-mail: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly
Cristina Gildee, Co-host, SoS Co-Producer, HBA Junior Fellow
Website: cristinagildee.org, E-mail: cgildee@uw.edu,

Sep 8, 2025 • 38min
SoS 248: Leela McKinnon explains how our environment affects our sleep
Leela McKinnon is a PhD Candidate in Evolutionary Anthropology at the University of Toronto and holds a Bachelor of Arts in Anthropology from Penn State University. Her PhD research examines sleep health in Indigenous Wixárika communities in Jalisco, Mexico, with a particular focus on the effects of rural-to-urban migration on sleep and circadian rhythms. Leela explores the environmental and social factors influencing the sleep health of urban Wixárika migrants. Beyond her dissertation research in Mexico, Leela has also studied sleep in a Guatemalan Maya community, investigating how urbanization and market economy integration shape sleep patterns in rural settings. She is trained in the quantitative analysis of sleep data using accelerometry and is proficient in mixed methodologies, including survey data collection and qualitative interviewing.
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Find the paper discussed in this episode:
McKinnon, L., Shattuck, E. C., Samson, D. R. (2022). Sound reasons for unsound sleep: Comparative support for the sentinel hypothesis in industrial and nonindustrial groups. Evol Med Public Health, 11(1):53-66. doi: 10.1093/emph/eoac039.
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Contact Leela McKinnon: l.mckinnon@mail.utoronto.ca
X account: @leela_mckinnon
The Sleep and Human Evolution Lab's website is https://www.utm.utoronto.ca/shel/
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and the Human Biology Association:
Facebook: facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation/, Website: humbio.org, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Chris Lynn, Co-Host Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, E-mail: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly
Anahi Ruderman, SoS Co-Producer, HBA Junior Fellow
E-mail: aniruderman@gmail.com,

Sep 2, 2025 • 36min
SoS 247: Intergenerational Signals w/ Dr. Haley Ragsdale: A DOHaD Lens on Human Reproduction
Chris and Courtney sit down with Dr. Haley Ragsdale to discuss intergenerational signals of matrilineal experience. Haley completed her dissertation in Anthropology at Northwestern University in 2023 under the guidance of Dr. Chris Kuzawa. She is now a postdoctoral researcher in the Anthropology Department at the University of Illinois Chicago, collaborating with Dr. Katie Starkweather on fascinating projects related to maternal and child health among the Shodagor of Bangladesh. Haley’s work is deeply rooted in evolutionary theory and the developmental origins of health and disease (DOHaD) framework, with a focus on human reproductive biology. She explores how energetic experiences shape lifetime metabolic strategies and how reproductive investments are influenced by varying environmental contexts. Currently, she’s diving into the mechanisms behind intergenerational signals of matrilineal experience and predictive adaptive responses in humans.
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Find the paper discussed in this episode:
Ragsdale, H. B., Lee, N. R., & Kuzawa, C. W. (2024). Evidence that highly canalized fetal traits are sensitive to intergenerational effects of maternal developmental nutrition. American Journal of Biological Anthropology, 183(4), e24883. https://doi.org/10.1002/ajpa.24883
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Contact Haley: E-mail: hragsd2@uic.edu website: https://haleyragsdale.squarespace.com/; Google Scholar
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation/, Website: humbio.org, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Chris Lynn, Host
Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, E-mail: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly
Courtney Manthey, Guest-Co-Host, Website: holylaetoli.com/ E-mail: cpierce4@uccs.edu, Twitter: @HolyLaetoli
Cristina Gildee, SoS Co-Producer, HBA Junior Fellow
Website: cristinagildee.org, E-mail: cgildee@uw.edu,

Jul 31, 2025 • 38min
SoS 246: Discriminación, estrés y salud en población migrante: un estudio multinacional con Isaura Cruz
La doctora Isaura Cruz es bio-antropóloga y sus intereses de investigación se centran en la amplia contribución del medio ambiente a la salud y el bienestar humanos. Ha examinado el desarrollo de las condiciones cardiovasculares y metabólicas entre los indígenas mexicanos P'urépecha en sus comunidades de origen en Michoacán, México y las comunidades de acogida en Carolina del Norte, EE.UU. Isaura utiliza un enfoque de métodos mixtos que incluye elementos de la nutrición, la salud pública, la genómica, aplicando siempre una lente biocultural.
La investigación de que la conversaremos hoy es parte de su trabajo de tesis doctoral, titulada “Migración Internacional y Salud: P’urépecha en EEUU y México”. En particular hablaremos de un estudio binacional que realizaron entre los años 2018 y 2019, sobre la salud cardiometabólica en la comunidad P’urépecha, un pueblo originario del estado de Michoacán, México. El estudio consiste en una comparación de los factores de riesgo de salud cardiometabólica (CHM) entre quienes viven en sus comunidades de origen en Michoacán, México, y quienes viven en Carolina del Norte, EE. UU. Este trabajo integra perspectivas y métodos de la antropología, la salud pública, la demografía y la sociología, entre otros, para comprender mejor la salud en el contexto de la migración internacional.
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Dr. Isaura Cruz is a bioanthropologist whose research focuses on the environmental factors that contribute to human health and well-being. She has studied the development of cardiovascular and metabolic conditions among P'urhépecha indigenous Mexicans in their home communities in Michoacán, Mexico and in host communities in North Carolina, USA. Dr. Cruz uses a mixed-methods approach that incorporates nutrition, public health, and genomics while applying a biocultural lens.
The research we will discuss today is part of her doctoral dissertation, entitled International Migration and Health: P'urhépecha in the US and Mexico." Specifically, we will discuss a binational study conducted between 2018 and 2019 examining cardiometabolic health in the P'urhépecha community, an indigenous group in the state of Michoacán, Mexico. This study compares cardiometabolic health risk factors between individuals residing in their home communities in Michoacán and those residing in North Carolina. This work integrates perspectives and methods from anthropology, public health, demography, sociology, and other fields to better understand health in the context of international migration.
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Contact Dr. Cruz: igodinezcruz@scu.edu
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation/, Website: humbio.org, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Anahi Ruderman, SoS Co-Producer, HBA Junior Fellow
E-mail: ruderman@cenpat-conicet.gob.ar
Chris Lynn, Co-Host Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, E-mail: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly

Jul 22, 2025 • 33min
SoS 245: Anamika Nanda - From Pool Laps to Brain Maps
In this episode, Chris and Cristina talk with Anamika Nanda, a PhD student in the Department of Biological Sciences and a Women in Science and Engineering (WiSE) Fellow at the University of Southern California. Anamika’s research, conducted under the guidance of Dr. David Raichlen, examines how physical activity affects neurological health across various genotypes.
Before beginning her doctoral work, Anamika earned her Bachelor's degree in Medical Anthropology and Global Health from the University of Washington. Her award-winning honors thesis examined the relationship between motivation, physical activity, and psychosocial stress, and its impact on telomere length in collegiate swimmers and non-collegiate athletes.
We discuss her path into science, her interdisciplinary approach to understanding brain health, and how her work connects athletics, stress, and aging. Anamika’s research has been recognized with an NSF-GRFP Honorable Mention, the UW Anthropology Department’s Best Honors Thesis Award, and a Mary Gates Research Scholarship.
Tune in for an insightful conversation on the biology of movement, the value of interdisciplinary research, and what it means to study sports from a holistic perspective.
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Find the paper discussed in this episode:
Nanda, A., Logan, A., & Tennyson, R. L. (2024). The influence of perceived stress and motivation on telomere length among NCAA swimmers. American Journal of Human Biology, 36(9), e24091. https://doi.org/10.1002/ajhb.24091
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Contact Anamika: E-mail: anamikan@usc.edu; LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anamika-nanda-168b9b199
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation/, Website: humbio.org, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Chris Lynn, Host
Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, E-mail: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly
Cristina Gildee, Co-host, SoS Co-Producer, HBA Junior Fellow
Website: cristinagildee.org, E-mail: cgildee@uw.edu

Jul 8, 2025 • 42min
SoS 244: Emily Barron discusses early life stress and its impact on brain development from an evolutionary perspective
Emily is a PhD student and biological anthropologist at Northwestern University and a Student Representative for the Human Biology Association. She studies brain development from an evolutionary perspective, focusing on how early life stress shapes cognitive, behavioral, social, and physiological development. Her dissertation examines how early adversity and parenting influence executive function, learning, and memory, exploring potential adaptive outcomes of early stress. Emily is also pursuing research on brain energetics during development in early childhood and developing field-friendly methods to study brain energetics for anthropologists. She’s passionate about bringing ideas and methods from neuroscience into the field of anthropology to better understand what shapes human behavior and biology.
Contact Emily Barron: emilybarron2026@u.northwestern.edu
Twitter: @emilyhbarron
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation/, Website: humbio.org, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Chris Lynn, Co-Host Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, E-mail: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter: @Chris_Ly
Courtney Manthey, Guest-Co-Host, Website: holylaetoli.com/ E-mail: cpierce4@uccs.edu, Twitter: @HolyLaetoli
Anahi Ruderman, SoS Co-Producer, HBA Junior Fellow
E-mail: ruderman@cenpat-conicet.gob.ar, Twitter: @ani_ruderman


