90 Miles from Needles: the Desert Protection Podcast

Chris Clarke
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Sep 26, 2025 • 45min

S4E36: The Fallout You Never Knew About: California's Hidden Nuclear Legacy

Episode Summary In this eye-opening episode of *90 Miles from Needles*, host Chris Clarke welcomes back Dr. Michael E. Ketterer to explore the unsettling connections between historical nuclear testing in the Nevada Test Site and fallout in unexpected areas like eastern California. With cutting-edge mass spectrometry, Dr. Ketterer reveals how nuclear tests conducted decades ago may have risked public health in unexpected places such as eastern California. The episode not only dives deep into the legacy of nuclear testing but also highlights the need for further investigation into its repercussions, particularly in underrepresented areas impacted by radioactive exposure. During the conversation, Dr. Ketterer shares his findings on how eastern California, particularly the regions around Mount Whitney, has been affected by nuclear fallout in levels comparable to notorious downwind zones like St. George, Utah. He asserts that existing compensation programs, like the Radiation Exposure Compensation Act (RICA), should be expanded to include these overlooked areas. Dr. Ketterer also discusses his involvement in a mobile lab initiative that aims to map fallout across New Mexico—providing crucial data to better understand past exposures and advocate for affected communities. Key Takeaways Dr. Ketterer exhibits compelling evidence that nuclear fallout from Nevada test sites reached eastern California in significant amounts, equivalent to recognized downwind fallout areas. The episode challenges preconceived notions about nuclear test fallout only affecting designated downwind areas and calls for policy expansion to acknowledge overlooked regions. The pursuit of truth in fallout mapping is driven by sophisticated isotopic testing, identifying residual contamination in soil samples and informing future legislative action. Dr. Ketterer's work shines a light on neglected communities, emphasizing the importance of validating historical data for revising compensation and care strategies under RECA. A new mobile lab initiative, designed to bring testing capabilities directly to communities, is part of Dr. Ketterer’s latest efforts to empower citizens with real-time data and insights into their environmental health. Resources Veterans for Peace https://www.veteransforpeace.org/ Learn about plutonium isotopic fingerprinting techniques: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotopic_signature  Research articles and public work by Dr. Michael Ketterer can be found through Google Scholar. Listen to the full episode for an in-depth understanding of how fallout from historical nuclear testing impacts communities today and gain insights into the ongoing efforts to map and mitigate these effects. Don't miss upcoming episodes for more on desert protection and advocacy initiatives!Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donateSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Sep 20, 2025 • 21min

S4E35: Silencing the Left: The Fight for Truth and Justice in Uncertain Times

Chris Clarke discusses the political tensions boiling over in the U.S., particularly surrounding the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Clarke offers a profound exploration into the implications of this event on the left-wing movement while criticizing the portrayal of the desert, advocating for the urgent need to protect these delicate ecosystems. As a long-time activist, Chris emphasizes the significance of non-violence in political change and the dangers of one-sided media narratives. Throughout the episode, Chris Clarke adeptly interweaves his rich history of activism with an analysis of current political events, spotlighting the Desert Advocacy Media Network's role in environmental advocacy. He engages listeners by addressing the resurgence of political urgency reminiscent of past decades while accentuating the necessity to expand the podcast's reach for greater impact. Resources and alternatives are suggested for diversifying how audience members can contribute, whether financially or through spreading awareness. Key Takeaways: Host Chris Clarke provides an insightful commentary on the assassination of Charlie Kirk, highlighting the misguidedness of political violence as a means of change. Chris invites listeners to support the "90 Miles from Needles" podcast, stressing the value of community-driven initiatives over corporate media. Listeners are encouraged to engage with small media projects as paramount sources for truthful reporting in light of biased mainstream narratives. Clarke calls for solidarity among desert inhabitants of all backgrounds, urging collaboration to safeguard their way of life.  Notable Quotes:  "I was involved in sitting in administration buildings in protest... It was all very new and exciting, and I had no perspective back then." "There are probably circumstances in which I would decide people are justified in using some violence to defend themselves... But we are not there in a mass political sense in the US." "It's people on the right that need to start professing their opposition to political violence. Because on the left, our record is pretty clear."   "The task of revealing what's going on in this country is necessarily falling to us because Paramount and Comcast and Disney and Apple and Netflix and Google and Meta don't have the slightest interest in informing us at this point." "We are all desert people, and we need to stand up for each other." Resources: 90 Miles from Needles website: https://90milesfromneedles.com Contact for donations: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donate  Department of Justice report on domestic extremism: Available at https://90milesfromneedles.com/extremism Listeners are encouraged to tune into this episode for an in-depth understanding of current political dynamics and to support the "90 Miles from Needles" podcast for continued advocacy towards desert protection and truthful reporting. Stay engaged for more enlightening and thought-provoking content from Chris Clarke and his guests.Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donateSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Sep 12, 2025 • 29min

S4E34: Joshua Trees and Family Trees

Chris Clarke, the host of "90 Miles from Needles: The Desert Protection Podcast" is a seasoned storyteller, passionate environmentalist, and a desert aficionado. Throughout his career, he has dedicated himself to the protection of desert ecosystems through his writings, activism, and this podcast. Chris's work often intersects with emotional narratives tied to family, nature, and the unique beauty of desert landscapes. Episode Summary: In this heartwarming episode of "90 Miles from Needles," host Chris Clarke relates poignant memories of his first encounter with the North American deserts alongside his father, James Clarke, who recently turned 91. The podcast blends reflections on family ties with the enchanting life cycles of the desert's flora and fauna, particularly focusing on the coastal dynamics of Joshua trees and their pollinators, the Joshua tree moths.  Chris's narrative paints a vivid picture of his desert journeys, interwoven with the deeply personal legacy imparted by his father. Listeners are treated to rich, descriptive storytelling about the Mojave Desert's changing landscape due to 2005's unprecedented rain, revealing a lush tapestry of growth and bloom. Throughout the episode, Chris explores the intricate dance of mutual dependence between Joshua trees and moths, using this symbiosis as a metaphor for family relations. His reflections span generations, touching on areas like evolution, kinship, and the broader cycles of nature. The episode closes with details about upcoming events and heartfelt gratitude to contributors who support Chris’s mission of desert conservation.  Key Takeaways: Chris recollects his initial desert experience from 60 years ago, imparting a deep-seated love for this landscape gifted by his father. The episode highlights the symbiotic relationship between Joshua trees and their exclusive pollinators, the Joshua tree moths. Personal narratives are woven with scientific insights into desert ecosystems, emphasizing the interconnectedness of all life forms. Chris shares details of the Chihuahuan Desert travel plans for community engagement and draws attention to ongoing activism for desert protection. A touching celebration of familial bonds is tied to the broader theme of inheritance and nature's ongoing legacy.  Notable Quotes: "It shaped my life. And the guy that was behind the wheel driving me and some others around in the desert that month in 1966…" "Building a good fire is a matter of balance… and I think about my father." "It's the family I've always longed for, and I cherish my place in it." "We are related. We are kin."  Resources: Visit 90milesfromneedles.com for more details about upcoming events. For contributions to the Chihuahuan Desert Travel Fund, go to 90milesfromneedles.com/elpaso.Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donateSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Sep 5, 2025 • 28min

S4E33: Monsoon Madness: When the Desert Comes Alive

Episode Summary This episode of the "90 Miles from Needles" podcast does a racing dive into the fascinating topic of monsoonal rainstorms in the desert, focusing on their effects and significance. With detailed insights into recent rain events in Twentynine Palms, California, Chris shares the challenges and celebrations that accompany these powerful meteorological phenomena. Amid the backdrop of a biome shaped by water scarcity, the podcast explores both the danger and the necessity of monsoon rains, sparking reflections on desert life and conservation. Clarke elaborates on how water, despite its scarcity, is the primary sculptor of desert landscapes and essential for the survival of unique flora and fauna. He details the local impact of monsoonal rains on infrastructure and wildlife, emphasizing the importance of respecting and preparing for these natural events.  Key Takeaways: Monsoonal rainstorms are pivotal in shaping and maintaining the unique ecosystems of deserts. Deserts are defined by their lack of water, with meteorological events like monsoons highlighting the delicate balance between scarcity and abundance in these environments.  Human safety during monsoonal rains is paramount, as flash floods pose a significant risk to life and property, underscoring the importance of mindful interaction with desert landscapes.  An engaging description of the scent of wet creosote after a monsoon provides a sensory glimpse into the captivating transformations brought about by these rainstorms. Environmental advocacy and awareness are crucial for protecting desert ecosystems from threats and promoting sustainable interactions with these fragile areas.  Notable Quotes: "Monsoons are a reminder that the best days in the desert are full of passionate intensity, while the worst lack all convection." "For every thousand people celebrating a monsoon, one person gets really badly damaged, sometimes through no fault of their own."  "When the monsoon comes, it's hard not to celebrate." "Water is like currency in the desert. It's scarce, and therefore, it's valuable." "Desert varnish and playa, even the visual symbol of how deserts are dry, got there because there used to be water there." Resources: "90 Miles from Needles" Podcast Website: 90milesfromneedles.com National Weather Service for weather tracking and forecasts: https://www.weather.gov/  Chihuahuan Desert Fiesta event details for the El Paso Zoo https://chihuahuandesert.org/fiesta-information/ Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donateSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Aug 23, 2025 • 50min

S4E32: Joshua Trees are Still Caught in the Climate Crossfire

In this episode of "90 Miles from Needles: The Desert Protection Podcast," host Chris Clarke dives into recent legislative developments surrounding the protection of the iconic Western Joshua Tree in California. The conversation highlights the intricacies of conservation laws, the intricate process of implementing these policies, and the pushback from various stakeholders navigating this environmental directive. The discussion is enriched with insights from returning guest Brendan Cummings of the Center for Biological Diversity, who shares his expertise on species protection under the California Endangered Species Act. The episode provides a comprehensive update on the California Fish and Game Commission's approval of the Western Joshua Tree Conservation Plan. This plan is required by the Western Joshua Tree Conservation Act passed in 2023, seeking to protect Joshua trees threatened by climate change, development, and wildfires. Cummings, who was pivotal in initiating the process by petitioning to protect the Western Joshua Tree in 2019, offers an in-depth exploration of the process, the challenges faced, and the compromise built into the legislation. Listeners are encouraged to stay tuned for the episode's conclusion, featuring the moving song "Joshua Tree" by Melanie Marshall, which thematically underscores the significance of preserving this desert species. Key Takeaways: Western Joshua Tree Conservation Act: The act passed in 2023 addresses climate change threats and simplifies permits for relocating or removing Joshua Trees, aiming for the species' long-term survival by 2033. Collaboration and Compromise: The passing of protections involved compromise between environmentalists and industries, balanced by setting more straightforward processes for developers and prioritizing protection through coordinated conservational efforts. Adapting to Climate Threats: The Conservation Plan identifies climate threats, prioritizing refugia and high-elevation areas for sustained Joshua Tree populations, with a focus on reducing invasive species and fire risks. Community and Tribal Involvement: Engagement with local governments and Native American tribes plays a significant role in implementing conservation methods, highlighting cultural ties to the land and species. Future Directions: By 2033, effectiveness will be reassessed, potentially reconsidering the species' threataned status if current measures do not mitigate the threats effectively. Notable Quotes: Brendan Cummings: "The Western Joshua Tree Conservation act signed into law in July 2023 was the first state law by California that recognized the climate threat to biodiversity." Brendan Cummings: "The goal was to protect the species and to ensure Joshua trees continue to be a part of our desert communities." Brendan Cummings: "The overriding threat, of course, is climate change. We also have increased fires fueled by invasive grasses, and then the most immediate threat, which is Joshua trees getting chopped down." Robert Gomez: "I want to look at the cultural aspect of the Joshua Tree for our particular tribe… It means a lot to us." Brendan Cummings: "We can hopefully figure out how to reduce the impacts or frequency of fire in Joshua tree habitat, but we're not going to stop it." Resources: Center for Biological Diversity: https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/ California Department of Fish and Wildlife: https://wildlife.ca.gov/Conservation/Environmental-Review/WJT/WJTCA Melanie Marshall's Music: https://soundcloud.com/melaniemarshallmusicBecome a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donateSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Aug 15, 2025 • 37min

S4E31: 5 Years On: Cima Dome After the Flames

Host Chris Clarke delves into the profound impact of the Dome Fire on the cherished Joshua Tree forest within the Mojave National Preserve. Marking the five-year anniversary of the Dome Fire, Clarke reflects on personal experiences and the broader ecological ramifications. The devastating event shifted his life, carving a definitive "before" and "after" in his approach to desert protection. Listeners are taken on an emotional journey through the charred landscape of Cima Dome, providing striking narratives about recovery efforts and the ongoing challenges posed by invasive species like cheatgrass and red brome. Clarke's introspection includes insights from Cima Dome experts like Drew Kaiser and Debra Hughson. They highlight both the devastation wrought by the Dome Fire and the collaborative restoration efforts underway. The episode serves as both a sobering reminder of what has been lost and a hopeful testament to resilience in the face of environmental upheaval.  Key Takeaways: The Dome Fire of 2020 dramatically altered the landscape of the Joshua tree forest, marking a pivotal moment of change for environmental activists like Chris Clarke. Restorative efforts in the Mojave National Preserve highlight the complexities of ecosystem recovery, facing challenges from invasive species such as red brome and cheatgrass.  Personal and ecological narratives intertwine as Clarke discusses the grief of environmental loss and the slow process of healing for the affected landscapes. The episode underscores the importance of maintaining awareness of environmental destruction while finding hope and actionable paths for positive change. Clarke explores the idea of "solastalgia," feeling deep nostalgia and loss for a place he once knew as both an environmentalist and a deeply connected individual.  Notable Quotes: "Every time I come back here, it looks worse. The memories of how it used to be become more clear and more ever present in my mind." "I feel as if I'm visiting someone that I have loved for a long time in hospice after all of their brain activity has ended." "When I die, I want to be burned to ash and I want the people that love me to bring those ashes here." "My being around to see it, if you take that literally, is a choice on my part. And I'm not sure why I keep coming back."  Resources: 90 Miles From Needles Podcast website: https://www.90milesfromneedles.com/ Mojave National Preserve web page on the Dome Fire: https://www.nps.gov/moja/learn/nature/dome-fire.htm DAMN Chihuahuan Desert Travel Fund: https://90milesfromneedles.com/elpaso Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donateSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Aug 9, 2025 • 22min

S4E30: Episode 100 | Former Wildland Firefighter Ruth Nolan's Literary Mission

This episode, celebrated over several parts to accommodate in-depth discussions, features a captivating final chapter with Ruth Nolan. A distinguished voice in desert poetry and a former wildland firefighter, Ruth shares her insights into the ecological challenges and intrinsic beauty of California's deserts through her evocative poetry, with themes of renewable energy impacts, wildfires, and invasive species. Through readings from her works such as "Ruby Mountain" and "After the Dome Fire," Ruth Nolan paints a vivid picture of the Mojave Desert's poignant struggles and enduring spirit. She invites us to reflect on the necessity of environmental vigilance and collective action through the memories of her firefighting days, close calls with nature, and poetic musings on desert life. The narrative threads courage, resilience, and reflection into a poetic tapestry that speaks to both the heart and the mind, underscoring the urgency of conservation efforts in the face of modern challenges. Key Takeaways: Ruth Nolan emphasizes the blend of past experiences and contemporary challenges in the struggle to protect the desert, alongside her literary contributions. The readings from Ruth's works highlight themes of environmental impact due to renewable energy projects and the cultural significance of desert landscapes. The episode celebrates the collaboration of activists, journalists, and writers engaging in the dialogue on desert preservation. The interconnectedness of art, activism, and environment is a recurring theme, urging listeners to witness both poetic and practical advocacy for desert protection. Notable Quotes: "I saw three golden eagles on the morning of an all-night mourning ceremony..." – Ruth Nolan"This is how you put out a fire before it has a chance to erupt into something big." – Ruth Nolan"We did this to ourselves, people. And we keep doing it again and again and not again." – Ruth Nolan"Look for the small things. A wisp of sultry smoke... This is where it will stop." – Ruth Nolan"We have to love it. But we also know there's a lot of darkness." – Ruth Nolan Resources: "Ruby Mountain" by Ruth Nolan"No Place for a Puritan: The Literature of California's Deserts""Fire and Rain: Eco Poetry of California"Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donateSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Aug 9, 2025 • 19min

S4E29: Episode 100 | Two Deserts, One Story with Rubén Martinéz

In this chapter of the milestone hundredth episode  of the "90 Miles from Needles: The Desert Protection Podcast," host Chris Clarke introduces a rich tapestry of insights from renowned desert advocate and writer Ruben Martinez. The chapter, part of a comprehensive six-part series celebrating this landmark with diverse contributors, invites listeners into a profound discussion linking deserts not only as geographical landscapes but as symbols of spiritual and existential exploration. Martinez shares an evocative narrative that intertwines personal experiences in the stark wilderness with broader socio-political and spiritual themes. Describing his retreat at a Cistercian monastery on the Lost Coast of California, he highlights the desert as a metaphor for existential struggle and spiritual enlightenment. Drawing connections between historical Christian meditation traditions and the contemporary borders between the U.S. and Mexico, Martinez explores the desert as both a literal and metaphorical backdrop for human migration and introspection. Through this exploration, he echoes the desert's dual role as a site of significant suffering amid hope, and as a place where nature's stark reality meets transcendent potential. Key Takeaways: The desert serves as a powerful metaphor for contemplation, self-discovery, and refuge. Historical Christian monastic traditions often depict the desert as a spiritual sanctuary and testing ground. The U.S.-Mexico borderlands bear a dual representation as both harsh environments and spaces of profound human migration and hope. Spiritual silence and withdrawal can act as essential means to confront personal and collective traumas. The chapter underscores the vital integration of storytelling and activism in understanding the contemporary and historical significance of desert regions. Notable Quotes: "I write about the desert from within the confines of a Cistercian monastery...in a region known generally as the Lost Coast.""The desert is lack, was fullness, was political or beyond politics...was native land.""Two darks, two deserts. One where corruption and violence joined to crucify the bodies of the vulnerable, and the other where silence is a salve...""Every step in the wilderness was an act of faith.""I'm in my desert alongside the migrants in theirs, writing in the dark." Resources: Rubén Martinéz at Loyola Marymount University https://bellarmine.lmu.edu/journalism/faculty/?expert=rubn.martnez Gary Paul Nabhan's anthology, The Nature of Desert Nature, published by University of Arizona Press.  Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donateSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Aug 9, 2025 • 22min

S4E28: Episode 100 | Three Sonorans and Tucson's Stand Against High-Tech Ecological Threats

David Morales, a journalist and creator of the "Three Sonorans" newsletter, joins the conversation to discuss Tucson's triumph against the Project Blue data center proposal. He highlights the alarming water and energy demands of this project in a drought-stricken desert, emphasizing its potential ecological impact. Morales sheds light on the community's united stand against exploitative practices, connecting historical injustices to contemporary environmental challenges. His insights promote awareness of local advocacy and the importance of sustainable policies that honor indigenous rights.
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Aug 9, 2025 • 11min

S4E27: Episode 100 | Poetry and Plants with Cameron Mayer

In this landmark 100th episode of the "90 Miles from Needles" podcast, host Chris Clark celebrates with a treasure trove of content breaking into six segments. This episode features Cameron Mayer, contributing his passion for the desert through eloquent poetry readings. Mayer shares his profound connection to the Mojave and surrounding areas and highlights his work with Friends of the Amargosa Basin aimed at increasing protection for the unique watershed. Listeners are treated to Mayer's evocative poetry that captures the mystical allure of the desert flora, such as the Honey Mesquite and Mojave Aster. The discussion focuses on the importance of appreciating and conserving often-overlooked desert landscapes, with eloquent passages from Mayer’s writings infusing the episode with introspective reflections. Hear how Mayer's work and art bring attention to the majestic beauty and delicate balance of desert ecosystems, with a special focus on Nevada's understated splendor. Key Takeaways: Cameron Mayer shares his poetic tributes to desert plants, such as Honey Mesquite and Mojave Aster. Mayer's work weaves together poetry, botany, and photography to highlight the beauty of desert environments. Mayer serves as Program Director for Friends of the Amargosa Basin, advocating for the conservation of this critical area. Personal experiences in Nevada’s Paranigate Valley spotlight the diverse, hidden treasures of desert landscapes. Listeners are urged to consider the deeper connections and motivations behind desert conservation efforts. Notable Quotes:  "Oh, the life giver, sustainer of cultures more than human alike." "For those of you who know the Great Basin, Highway 93, it goes all the way to Idaho. It's wonderful." "Roadside rock side, any side of a valley, of a river." " I will tell you, trying to tent camp in 13 degree weather really does build character maybe, but anyways, it's an experience. " "Traveling the basins and ranges with no clear method for healing." Resources: Friends of the Amargosa Basin (https://friendsoftheamargosabasin.org/): Ongoing efforts to establish a national monument status for the Amargosa Basin to protect its unique ecosystems. Wildflowers of Shoshone and Tecopa: An Intuitive Guide : A book authored by Cameron Mayer, available locally at the Shoshone Museum and other local outlets. Listeners are invited to immerse themselves in the full episode to further appreciate the stunning work and poetic voice of Cameron Mayer. Stay connected for more insightful content from "90 Miles from Needles" as we continue to explore and advocate for desert protection.Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donateSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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